From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8201 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2003 17:40:43 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Feb 2003 17:40:43 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 16978 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Feb 2003 17:40:42 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Feb 2003 17:40:42 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ooQz-0003ro-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 17:36:33 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.140] (helo=mailman2.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ooQq-0003re-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 17:36:24 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman2.ppco.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h1SHaN0d027712 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:36:23 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:36:21 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17161 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:36:20 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:36:19 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 02/28/2003 11:36:21 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: 137 kHz 022803 report Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Poor overnight here - weak fast fading LF bcst 150-200Khz, no Eu noise band on 137.774 6/7. One good piece of news - the power company has now removed 3 x overhead street lights at the bottom of my driveway and all associated overhead wiring - net results is about a 4dB lower common mode SMPSU noise. Its taken me a month but Ive just found out that I can run two or more Argo sessions on the PC screen - so I can finally see 137.7735 and 138.83 on two seperate screens (and captures). Why hadnt I tried this before? Doh... Laurence KL1X Anchorage - snow grains 37F From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20175 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2003 13:32:12 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Feb 2003 13:32:12 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 399 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Feb 2003 13:31:57 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Feb 2003 13:31:57 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18okbZ-0003Bq-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:31:13 +0000 Received: from [213.218.77.55] (helo=cmailENV3.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18okbU-0003Bh-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:31:08 +0000 Received: from [62.21.148.78] (helo=w8k3f0.freeler.nl) by cmailENV3.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18okbS-0002cr-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:31:06 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030228142827.023d8ba0@POP3.freeler.nl> X-Sender: FRE0000086604@POP3.freeler.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 14:29:53 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Dick Rollema" In-reply-to: <001c01c2dec6$044de5a0$6507a8c0@Main> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: O/C chasing at LF Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-8.5 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,HTML_00_10,HTML_MESSAGE,IN_REP_TOversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Well done, Alan!

This is what I like: clever use of equipment that happens to be available.

73, Dick, PA0SE


At 01:07 28-2-03 +0000, you wrote:
Hi all, I thought this little episode might prove interesting and it
certainly finds a use for the "below 50MHz" part of a hand-held scanner. I
have an AOR 2700 which purports to operate down to 100kHz, but like a lot of
this kind of kit is very deaf down there. I did think it might be useful for
DFing TV interfence, but it is too deaf even for that, without a pre-amp.

I restrung my 60m-top Marconi last weekend and was disappointed to see that
the tunning when paralleled with my 30m top inv-L was not at the original
position. As it is a receive aerial is is strung with 1mm PVC coated wire. A
quick measurement of the tuning inductor indicated only 80pF more capacity,
which I guessed would mean a break inside the insulation about 16m from the
feed point (5pF / m). After a little thought and a couple of coffees, I
plugged the end of the unloaded 60m wire into the 600ohm output of the PS-12
(W&G SIG GEN) turned up full and with the interenal resistor set to "0". I
then walked down the wire (now dropped to the ground again), running the
wire at right-angles over the closed telescopic aerial on the AOR2700. The
"S-meter" gave fullscale on AM, and about 15m down the wire it dropped
significantly ( to "S3"). A quick waggle of the wire confirmed two breaks at
that point. I was quite pleasantly surprised that point indicated by the
scanner s-meter was with an inch of the break. After a quick soldering job
and a tape-up the aerial tuning inductor was back to where it was expected
to be.

I know its not rocket science but its nice when these little tricks really
work. The feed voltage from the PS-12 was about 0.7V r.m.s. It also proved
my contention that a wide coverage receiver is one of the most useful bits
of test gear you can have (I might add "portable" to that as well now!!)

Cheers de Alan G3NYK
alan.melia@btinternet.com
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20768 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2003 13:06:32 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Feb 2003 13:06:32 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 25534 invoked by uid 10001); 28 Feb 2003 13:06:32 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Feb 2003 13:06:31 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18okBe-000347-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:04:26 +0000 Received: from [204.60.203.69] (helo=mta3.snet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18okBY-00033y-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:04:20 +0000 Received: from snet.net (124.220.252.64.snet.net [64.252.220.124]) by mta3.snet.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/SNET-smtp-1.2/D-1.1.1.1/O-1.1.1.1) with ESMTP id h1SD4HcY025393 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:04:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E5F5E54.9BFA08AE@snet.net> Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:04:20 -0500 From: "Jay Rusgrove" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: 137 kHz 022803 report Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Same results as John last night. Sample captures below: http://www.advancedreceiver.com/capture/137022803D.jpg http://www.advancedreceiver.com/capture/137022803E.jpg http://www.advancedreceiver.com/capture/137022803F.jpg For what it's worth (probably not much)... I've noticed for a few nights now that Brian's signal is the first in, seems to make an early peak around 0230, fades and then comes back up around 0400 and is in solid thereafter. Jay Rusgrove, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17365 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2003 11:52:50 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Feb 2003 11:52:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 8652 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2003 11:52:46 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Feb 2003 11:52:46 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18oj3f-0002m9-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:52:07 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.18] (helo=mx08.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18oj3a-0002lt-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:52:02 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by mx08.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 45645682 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 06:51:31 -0500 Message-ID: <000701c2df1f$d9f83da0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E5EB6E7.4FB9C985@att.net> Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:52:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 137 kHz 28FEB03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false The fast fades must have smoothed out last night, as I had continuous copy of CT1DRP and G3LDO from 0400 to 0730. No other signals seen. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9313 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2003 07:48:29 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Feb 2003 07:48:29 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 7904 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2003 07:48:31 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Feb 2003 07:48:31 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ofBj-0001uR-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 07:44:11 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.85] (helo=anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ofBd-0001uI-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 07:44:05 +0000 Received: from telemetry.demon.co.uk ([194.222.19.114]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18ofBc-0001L6-0Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 07:44:05 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 07:27:36 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Tom Boucher" References: <001c01c2dec6$044de5a0$6507a8c0@Main> In-reply-to: <001c01c2dec6$044de5a0$6507a8c0@Main> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U Subject: Re: LF: O/C chasing at LF X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.9 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I wondered who owned the S9+20 signal Alan! 73, Tom G3OLB In message <001c01c2dec6$044de5a0$6507a8c0@Main>, Alan Melia writes >Hi all, I thought this little episode might prove interesting and it >certainly finds a use for the "below 50MHz" part of a hand-held scanner. I >have an AOR 2700 which purports to operate down to 100kHz, but like a lot of >this kind of kit is very deaf down there. I did think it might be useful for >DFing TV interfence, but it is too deaf even for that, without a pre-amp. > >I restrung my 60m-top Marconi last weekend and was disappointed to see that >the tunning when paralleled with my 30m top inv-L was not at the original >position. As it is a receive aerial is is strung with 1mm PVC coated wire. A >quick measurement of the tuning inductor indicated only 80pF more capacity, >which I guessed would mean a break inside the insulation about 16m from the >feed point (5pF / m). After a little thought and a couple of coffees, I >plugged the end of the unloaded 60m wire into the 600ohm output of the PS-12 >(W&G SIG GEN) turned up full and with the interenal resistor set to "0". I >then walked down the wire (now dropped to the ground again), running the >wire at right-angles over the closed telescopic aerial on the AOR2700. The >"S-meter" gave fullscale on AM, and about 15m down the wire it dropped >significantly ( to "S3"). A quick waggle of the wire confirmed two breaks at >that point. I was quite pleasantly surprised that point indicated by the >scanner s-meter was with an inch of the break. After a quick soldering job >and a tape-up the aerial tuning inductor was back to where it was expected >to be. > >I know its not rocket science but its nice when these little tricks really >work. The feed voltage from the PS-12 was about 0.7V r.m.s. It also proved >my contention that a wide coverage receiver is one of the most useful bits >of test gear you can have (I might add "portable" to that as well now!!) > >Cheers de Alan G3NYK >alan.melia@btinternet.com > > > > -- Tom Boucher 'Hedgerows' Sheldon Honiton Devon EX14 4QS From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5787 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2003 01:11:22 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Feb 2003 01:11:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 1867 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2003 01:11:04 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Feb 2003 01:11:04 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18oZ23-0000yw-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 01:09:47 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.93] (helo=rhenium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18oZ1v-0000ym-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 01:09:39 +0000 Received: from host213-122-115-4.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.115.4] helo=Main) by rhenium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18oZ1u-00068R-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 01:09:39 +0000 Message-ID: <001c01c2dec6$044de5a0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 01:07:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: O/C chasing at LF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, I thought this little episode might prove interesting and it certainly finds a use for the "below 50MHz" part of a hand-held scanner. I have an AOR 2700 which purports to operate down to 100kHz, but like a lot of this kind of kit is very deaf down there. I did think it might be useful for DFing TV interfence, but it is too deaf even for that, without a pre-amp. I restrung my 60m-top Marconi last weekend and was disappointed to see that the tunning when paralleled with my 30m top inv-L was not at the original position. As it is a receive aerial is is strung with 1mm PVC coated wire. A quick measurement of the tuning inductor indicated only 80pF more capacity, which I guessed would mean a break inside the insulation about 16m from the feed point (5pF / m). After a little thought and a couple of coffees, I plugged the end of the unloaded 60m wire into the 600ohm output of the PS-12 (W&G SIG GEN) turned up full and with the interenal resistor set to "0". I then walked down the wire (now dropped to the ground again), running the wire at right-angles over the closed telescopic aerial on the AOR2700. The "S-meter" gave fullscale on AM, and about 15m down the wire it dropped significantly ( to "S3"). A quick waggle of the wire confirmed two breaks at that point. I was quite pleasantly surprised that point indicated by the scanner s-meter was with an inch of the break. After a quick soldering job and a tape-up the aerial tuning inductor was back to where it was expected to be. I know its not rocket science but its nice when these little tricks really work. The feed voltage from the PS-12 was about 0.7V r.m.s. It also proved my contention that a wide coverage receiver is one of the most useful bits of test gear you can have (I might add "portable" to that as well now!!) Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28191 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2003 01:11:07 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Feb 2003 01:11:07 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 1849 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2003 01:11:03 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Feb 2003 01:11:03 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18oZ2Y-0000zE-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 01:10:18 +0000 Received: from [166.82.1.69] (helo=host4.ctc.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18oZ2T-0000z5-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 01:10:13 +0000 Received: from att.net ([166.82.181.250]) by host4.ctc.net (InterMail vK.4.03.05.03 201-232-132-103 license 2d687b22c655f23831a2faa19b737467) with ESMTP id <20030228011136.TIRF3575.host4@att.net> for ; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 20:11:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3E5EB6E7.4FB9C985@att.net> Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 01:09:59 +0000 From: "Dexter McIntyre" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "RSGB LF" Subject: LF: 137 kHz 28FEB03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Looks like a few signals starting to come thorough even with DCF39 20 dB down from it's peak and with a Kp of 4. http://www.w4dex.com/argo/137khz.jpg W4DEX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11134 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2003 17:56:21 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Feb 2003 17:56:21 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 6145 invoked by uid 10001); 27 Feb 2003 17:56:20 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Feb 2003 17:56:19 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18oSEi-0008Jv-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 17:54:24 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.140] (helo=mailman2.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18oSEX-0008Jm-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 17:54:13 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman2.ppco.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h1RHsB0d016227 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:54:11 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:54:09 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12744 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:54:08 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 08:54:06 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 02/27/2003 11:54:09 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: 137.74 27 Feb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Not a good night up here either. No "Eu" noise band seen on 137 7746/7and only very weak signals on bcst from Eu 150-200KHz and DCF39 - Nothing seen from Brian. Have a nice day from a rainy Anchorage - Laurence KL1X From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13989 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2003 12:03:38 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Feb 2003 12:03:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 2972 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2003 12:03:35 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Feb 2003 12:03:35 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18oMgJ-0007CT-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:58:31 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.201] (helo=rems01.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18oMgE-0007CK-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:58:26 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by rems01.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9b) with SMTP id 445618 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 06:57:57 -0500 Message-ID: <001101c2de57$922ae180$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000501c2dd4c$a25c34c0$09d0fc3e@gi8ayz> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:58:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 137.74 27 Feb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false CT1DRP showed some brief strong peaks this morning, but his was the only signal visible here. Between those peaks, Brian just disappeared. Not a good night -- noise levels were up, as well. Eastern U.S. reception may be "off" for the next couple of days due to storms approaching from the west. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18265 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2003 23:05:55 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Feb 2003 23:05:55 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 325 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2003 23:05:57 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Feb 2003 23:05:56 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18oAYj-0005T3-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 23:01:53 +0000 Received: from [212.216.176.223] (helo=smtp3.cp.tin.it) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18oAYe-0005Su-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 23:01:48 +0000 Received: from base (212.171.197.108) by smtp3.cp.tin.it (6.5.033) id 3E48CE9F0065DFC1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 23:58:54 +0100 From: "valerio gabbani" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 23:57:31 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.1 References: <000f01c2d668$5da60760$fbc428c3@erica> <001001c2d827$cf400a40$0ef67ad5@j1r9b7> In-reply-to: <001001c2d827$cf400a40$0ef67ad5@j1r9b7> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <200302262357.31164.valerio@dii.unisi.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Subject: Re: LF: IK5ZPV/ G3GR0 PSK31 14Mhz [Off Subject] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-31.9 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_KMAILversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false On Wednesday 19 February 2003 16:00, Derek Atter wrote: > Hello Valerio, > > Many thanks for your call on PSK31 mode yesterday on 14Mhz. I had just > completed my 1st QSO on PSK31 with a local station who was helping me to > configure the system via a 2m talk-back link. > > The14Mhz band was closing and although you were a good signal when you > first called, you then faded in QSB right down into the noise after your > second transmission. I think that you said that it was also only your 3rd > QSO on PSK31. > I have not been QRV on 136Khz or the HF bands until recently due to storm > damage to my antenna system - a large tree holding up one end of my 60m > inverted L antenna fell down in the storm also taking down the mast holding > the other end of the antenna with it because the hard-drawn copper antenna > wire did not break under the strain. The antenna sytem has now been > re-built and I am active again. Hope to see you soon again on HF or > 136Khz. > > Vy 73 de Derek Atter G3GRO Hi All a little bit later, but i resolved now my problems with ISP SMTP server. Just to thank Derek for our BPSK31 qso on 20 meters, yes that was the 3rd. Can anyone summarize the frequency allocation and skeds in the T/A test ? I wish to join the gang in the next days. '73 IK5ZPV, Valerio From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16566 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2003 17:33:30 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Feb 2003 17:33:30 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 12246 invoked by uid 10001); 26 Feb 2003 17:33:30 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Feb 2003 17:33:30 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18o5QO-0004AH-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:32:56 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.10] (helo=mailman1.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18o5QN-0004A8-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:32:55 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman1.ppco.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h1QHWs5o014859 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 11:32:54 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 26 Feb 2003 11:32:48 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA02182 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 11:32:43 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 08:32:42 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 02/26/2003 11:32:47 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: 137.773kHz Feb 25/26th. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUBJECT_MONTH,SUBJECT_MONTH_2version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Worst night for a week or so up here - DCF came out the noise for about 30 mins at 0330 then dived down. Weak and watery Eu LF Bcst. Even my noise bar on 137 774.6 was poor. . Still logging. I have a new noise bar at 137 772 4 +- 0.1Hz, this since adding another cage wire and another vertical streamer. Im guessing as I have increased my antennaes footprint Im delving deeper into s/n....Laurence KL1X Anchorage, rain 40F. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8938 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2003 16:44:34 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Feb 2003 16:44:34 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 8176 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2003 16:44:30 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Feb 2003 16:44:30 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18o4et-0003vx-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:43:51 +0000 Received: from [24.153.64.2] (helo=smtp.comcast.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18o4et-0003vK-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:43:51 +0000 Received: from Charlie_Drake (pcp01445904pcs.lebnon01.pa.comcast.net [68.83.65.211]) by mtaout02.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with SMTP id <0HAX00829D46WN@mtaout02.icomcast.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 11:43:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 11:42:14 -0500 From: "Steve Dove" In-reply-to: <7723W1U0SQA413VYTMGXS95SQGB1.3e5c0520@Charlie_Drake> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <3VD9FCOMA8GBKGFBIDPM1ZTPIH2U7553.3e5cee66@Charlie_Drake> Organization: d s p MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Opera 6.04 build 1135 X-Priority: 3 Subject: LF: 137.773kHz Feb 25/26th. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.2 required=6.0tests=INVALID_MSGID,IN_REP_TO,NOSPAM_INC,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, SUBJECT_MONTH,SUBJECT_MONTH_2version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Greetings, A 'greatest hit' from last night is on w3eee.com. Also, should wish to 'snag' the real-time 'Argo' captures (when it's running) using Rik ON7YD's 'Rapido', the direct address for these is: http://www.hifidelity.com/w3eee/dcf39_files/argo.jpg This would allow very low latency remote viewing; if 'Rapido' were set for capture every minute it'd dovetial in nicely with the one-minute interval of the 'Argo' captures here. Watch paint dry and grass grow oceans away in real time! Without the agony of having to hit 'Refresh'! Cheers, Steve From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9771 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2003 14:01:56 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Feb 2003 14:01:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 29622 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2003 14:01:57 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Feb 2003 14:01:57 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18o27g-00036U-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 14:01:24 +0000 Received: from [207.155.198.79] (helo=darius.concentric.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18o27g-00036L-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 14:01:24 +0000 Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman.concentric.net [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net [Concentric SMTP Routing 1.0] id h1QE1Jw11541 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 09:01:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from jka ([208.37.242.34]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id JAA02641; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 09:01:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001e01c2dda0$e66e7660$09dc9384@jka> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <7723W1U0SQA413VYTMGXS95SQGB1.3e5c0520@Charlie_Drake> <001301c2dd8e$65340e00$0500a8c0@charter.net> <3E5CC8CD.C7E66FE6@snet.net> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 09:11:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 137.773kHz Feb 25/26th in CT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.8 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUBJECT_MONTH, SUBJECT_MONTH_2,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Jay, > It appears that John Andrews' antenna must not have been precisely tuned to > frequency last evening as he apparently let some signal sneak by to my > location. I'll have to check old Hoover tonight. I may have the hose plugged into the wrong end! John A. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18552 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2003 13:45:50 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Feb 2003 13:45:50 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 13448 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2003 13:45:46 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Feb 2003 13:45:46 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18o1rk-0002yt-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 13:44:56 +0000 Received: from [204.60.203.69] (helo=mta3.snet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18o1rj-0002yk-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 13:44:55 +0000 Received: from snet.net (147.230.252.64.snet.net [64.252.230.147]) by mta3.snet.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/SNET-smtp-1.2/D-1.1.1.1/O-1.1.1.1) with ESMTP id h1QDiocY025240 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 08:44:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E5CC8CD.C7E66FE6@snet.net> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 09:01:49 -0500 From: "Jay Rusgrove" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <7723W1U0SQA413VYTMGXS95SQGB1.3e5c0520@Charlie_Drake> <001301c2dd8e$65340e00$0500a8c0@charter.net> Subject: LF: 137.773kHz Feb 25/26th in CT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUBJECT_MONTH,SUBJECT_MONTH_2, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_XM,X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false In case anyone is shooting for an LF "seen in all states award"... here are some 137.773 kHz captures from last night in Connecticut. http://www.advancedreceiver.com/capture/137022603A.jpg http://www.advancedreceiver.com/capture/137022603B.jpg http://www.advancedreceiver.com/capture/137022603C.jpg It appears that John Andrews' antenna must not have been precisely tuned to frequency last evening as he apparently let some signal sneak by to my location. Jay Rusgrove, W1VD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29464 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2003 12:03:19 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Feb 2003 12:03:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 18886 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2003 12:03:16 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Feb 2003 12:03:16 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18o0Cd-0002Uf-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 11:58:23 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.18] (helo=mx08.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18o0Cc-0002UU-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 11:58:22 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by mx08.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 44294765 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 06:57:47 -0500 Message-ID: <001301c2dd8e$65340e00$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <7723W1U0SQA413VYTMGXS95SQGB1.3e5c0520@Charlie_Drake> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 11:58:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 137.773kHz Feb 25/26th. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUBJECT_MONTH,SUBJECT_MONTH_2, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Results were about the same as yesterday. G3AQC, CT1DRP and G3LDO were plainly visible, with some fragments of what was probably DF6NM. Here's a shot from 05:53: http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/files/022603.jpg John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5355 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2003 04:06:13 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Feb 2003 04:06:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 12078 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2003 04:06:15 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Feb 2003 04:06:15 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18nsou-0000SP-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 04:05:24 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.42] (helo=mta2-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18nsot-0000SG-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 04:05:23 +0000 Received: from Iian ([62.252.208.9]) by mta2-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030226040523.EUIW12967.mta2-svc.business.ntl.com@Iian> for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 04:05:23 +0000 Message-ID: <000501c2dd4c$a25c34c0$09d0fc3e@gi8ayz> From: "IAN KYLE" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 04:06:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 137.74 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Just for the fun of it I am transmitting AYZ AYZon 60 sec dots just above the other two signals, and will run until either 0800 or the TX blows up - whichever happens first. Ian, MI0AYZ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22995 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2003 00:12:30 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Feb 2003 00:12:30 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 9003 invoked by uid 10001); 26 Feb 2003 00:12:30 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Feb 2003 00:12:29 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18np7e-000827-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 00:08:30 +0000 Received: from [24.153.64.2] (helo=smtp.comcast.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18np7d-00081y-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 00:08:30 +0000 Received: from Charlie_Drake (pcp01445904pcs.lebnon01.pa.comcast.net [68.83.65.211]) by mtaout02.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.09 (built Jan 7 2003)) with SMTP id <0HAW00MRJ319ZX@mtaout02.icomcast.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 19:07:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 19:06:56 -0500 From: "Steve Dove" In-reply-to: <006601c2dd12$ed88a3a0$30ce28c3@erica> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <7723W1U0SQA413VYTMGXS95SQGB1.3e5c0520@Charlie_Drake> Organization: d s p MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Opera 6.04 build 1135 X-Priority: 3 Subject: LF: 137.773kHz Feb 25/26th. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.2 required=6.0tests=INVALID_MSGID,IN_REP_TO,NOSPAM_INC,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, SUBJECT_MONTH,SUBJECT_MONTH_2version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Greetings Earthlings, Live Argo capturing on w3eee.com tonight. Hello, Brian! Cheers, Steve . . . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5772 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2003 23:27:48 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 23:27:48 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 17218 invoked by uid 10001); 25 Feb 2003 23:27:48 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 23:27:48 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18noTT-0007rd-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 23:26:59 +0000 Received: from [166.82.1.68] (helo=host3.ctc.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18noTT-0007rU-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 23:26:59 +0000 Received: from att.net ([166.82.181.250]) by host3.ctc.net (InterMail vK.4.03.05.03 201-232-132-103 license 2d687b22c655f23831a2faa19b737467) with ESMTP id <20030225232754.DIXL1975.host3@att.net> for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 18:27:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3E5BFBB9.EE29DF40@att.net> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 23:26:49 +0000 From: "Dexter McIntyre" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "RSGB LF" Subject: LF: 137 kHz 25/26 Feb 03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUBJECT_MONTH,SUBJECT_MONTH_2, X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Now seeing CT1DRP in NC before dark and with moderate QRN. Dex, W4DEX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15736 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2003 23:10:50 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 23:10:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 22133 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2003 23:10:52 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 23:10:52 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18noCj-0007lD-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 23:09:41 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.20] (helo=dc-mx10.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18noCj-0007l4-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 23:09:41 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx10.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 77127331 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 18:09:09 -0500 Message-ID: <000301c2dd23$02b7f7c0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002201c2dcc6$753d9280$0500a8c0@charter.net> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 23:09:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Listening 25th/26th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I'm monitoring 137.772 - 137.775 tonight, with captures every 15 mins at: http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/136-1.jpg John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10241 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2003 21:38:55 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 21:38:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 13811 invoked by uid 10001); 25 Feb 2003 21:38:41 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 21:38:41 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18nmlr-0007No-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 21:37:51 +0000 Received: from [195.110.100.3] (helo=mail.dada.it) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18nmlr-0007Mt-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 21:37:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 13526 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2003 21:09:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cestag) (195.110.103.8) by mail.dada.it with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 21:09:08 -0000 Message-ID: <001701c2dd12$5b69b7c0$08676ec3@cestag> From: "cesare tagliabue" To: "LF group" Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 22:09:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: increase of the EIRP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_01_02,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi All After the last modifications brought in the antenna circuitry, I've noticed a significant improvement and have tried an indirect evaluation of efficiency. My EIRP seems to be now around 60 - 80 mW, I've updated my web site with some details about the method used, any criticism is welcome !! 73 to all Cesare Cesare Tagliabue I 5 TGC WW-Loc JN53PS e-mail: cestag@dada.it url: http://dai5tgc.dadacasa.supereva.it From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26781 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2003 21:12:16 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 21:12:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 14515 invoked by uid 10001); 25 Feb 2003 21:12:16 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 21:12:16 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18nmM6-0007Fp-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 21:11:14 +0000 Received: from [212.135.6.11] (helo=smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18nmM6-0007Fg-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 21:11:14 +0000 Received: from tnt-1-48.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.206.48] helo=erica) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18nmM5-0002s4-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 21:11:13 +0000 Message-ID: <006601c2dd12$ed88a3a0$30ce28c3@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002c01c2d9a8$142cab00$0500a8c0@charter.net> <001001c2dabb$aa2842e0$cac428c3@erica> <000501c2dacb$6bba8f80$0500a8c0@charter.net> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 21:05:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Drooping signal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > > The DDS is moved 0.1Hz per change of 1 deg C. When I noticed the > frequency > > downward drift I went down and opened the door of the transmitter shed - > > hence the reversal of frequency drift. John Andrews said > > And here I was...waiting for an explanation about how the cesium beam lost > collimation. I do feel the tiniest bit let down. > > What you really need is a GPS-controlled shed door opener. The idea of the GPS-controlled shed door opener seemed attractive but I felt it might lock me out when I wanted to get in. A different hi-tech approach was needed. It came in the form of a small transparent plastic storage box large enough to contain the DDS, keyer/driver, a 15watt lamp, a thermometer and a fridge thermostat. This produces a micro climate of around 10 deg C and a nice stable signal. While transmitting last night for KL1X, Laurence saw a signal on my frequency but doppler shift caused by the polar propagation path made the keying unreadable. What was needed was some frequency variation! To do this I needed heat, which was provided by XYL Erica's hair drier. (another hi-tech solution). When I was challenged as to what I needed a hair drier for in the garden shed in the early hours of the morning she found the explanation unconvincing. One day I will have the DDS in the house shack, with a divide by 10 driver/keyer to get much better stablity and 0.1Hz resolution - but it wont be as much fun. Peter G3LDO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6401 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2003 20:03:08 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 20:03:08 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 27335 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2003 20:03:05 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 20:03:05 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18nlHC-0006vM-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 20:02:06 +0000 Received: from [166.82.1.69] (helo=host4.ctc.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18nlHB-0006vD-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 20:02:05 +0000 Received: from att.net ([166.82.181.250]) by host4.ctc.net (InterMail vK.4.03.05.03 201-232-132-103 license 2d687b22c655f23831a2faa19b737467) with ESMTP id <20030225200328.WXPA3575.host4@att.net> for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 15:03:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3E5BCBAF.30A14CDD@att.net> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 20:01:51 +0000 From: "Dexter McIntyre" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "RSGB LF" Subject: LF: 137 kHz 25 Feb 03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUBJECT_MONTH,SUBJECT_MONTH_2, X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Propagation peaked around 0600. Best capture: http://www.w4dex.com/argo/25feb03/137khz00026.jpg W4DEX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21527 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2003 19:24:02 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 19:24:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 13042 invoked by uid 10001); 25 Feb 2003 19:24:02 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 19:24:02 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18nkfD-0006kZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 19:22:51 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.92] (helo=carbon.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18nkfD-0006kQ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 19:22:51 +0000 Received: from dial81-135-60-14.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.135.60.14] helo=presario-1920) by carbon.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18nkfB-0001z1-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 19:22:50 +0000 From: "John W Gould" To: "Rsgb_Lf_Group@Blacksheep.Org" Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 19:23:43 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: SP on 136kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REALversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Not sure whether this is news, but I've just received a copy of Poland's National Frequency Allocation Table that includes the following footnote: POL.1 The band 135.7-137.8 kHz may be used by amateur service on a secondary basis, the amateur stations shall use A1A emission class only and the output power not exceeding 1 Watt e.i.r.p. 73 John, G3WKL From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13435 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2003 16:39:52 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 16:39:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 10122 invoked by uid 10001); 25 Feb 2003 16:39:52 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 16:39:52 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ni6e-00066f-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 16:39:00 +0000 Received: from [134.58.240.42] (helo=rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ni6d-00066W-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 16:39:00 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 866298FCE6 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 17:38:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from antonius.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (antonius.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.73]) by rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E2E8FCB2 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 17:38:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (pc-10-33-165-177.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [10.33.165.177]) by antonius.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47CA24C0D2 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 17:38:27 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030225172524.01dae520@u0019445.kuleuven.be> X-Sender: u0019445@u0019445.kuleuven.be X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 17:38:32 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" In-reply-to: <3E5AFE7F.2051A30B@att.net> References: <001001c2dc8e$d08a8180$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: KULeuven Anti-Virus Cluster Subject: LF: Rapido Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=6.0tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_02_03version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello group, Based on about a dozen reactions and suggestions I got on the trial version of Rapido I made some changes and uploaded a new version. Rapido is a small piece of software that automatically will download a JPEG file from a given URL in a certain interval and show it on screen. It is meant to be used to check TA propagation in (almost) real time by continiously downloading ARGO screenshots from the web (ie. from http://www.w4dex.com/argo/137khz.jpg ). In addition you can automatically save the downloaded pictures, so even you do not want to stay up all night you have an overview of what happened in the morning. To avoid that too much disk space is 'eaten' a downloaded picture will only be saved to disk if it is different from the previous download. Rapido can be downloaded from http://www.qsl.net/on7yd/rapido/rapido.htm . 73, Rik ON7YD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1868 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2003 15:31:06 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 15:31:06 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 23558 invoked by uid 10001); 25 Feb 2003 15:31:06 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 15:31:05 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ngyl-0005lW-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 15:26:47 +0000 Received: from [24.153.64.2] (helo=smtp.comcast.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ngyl-0005lN-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 15:26:47 +0000 Received: from Charlie_Drake (pcp01445904pcs.lebnon01.pa.comcast.net [68.83.65.211]) by mtaout03.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.09 (built Jan 7 2003)) with SMTP id <0HAV009DNEUF8D@mtaout03.icomcast.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 10:25:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 10:24:58 -0500 From: "Steve Dove" In-reply-to: <3E5AF155.8721113@att.net> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <273D0YUB905RORQA7OIWTFDSQ65PLQO.3e5b8aca@Charlie_Drake> Organization: d s p MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Opera 6.04 build 1135 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: LF: CT1DRP looking good in NC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=6.0tests=INVALID_MSGID,IN_REP_TO,NOSPAM_INC,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Greetings, Just waded through last night's ho-hum snapshots; a droopy one is on w3eee.com. Cheers, Steve From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32684 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2003 12:08:28 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 12:08:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 15954 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2003 12:08:29 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 12:08:29 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ndrX-0004zo-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:07:07 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.22] (helo=dc-mx12.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ndrW-0004zf-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:07:07 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx12.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 91101049 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 07:06:35 -0500 Message-ID: <002201c2dcc6$753d9280$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:07:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: CT1DRP looking good in NC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false CT1DRP was in and out from 0230, with cndx not as good as last week's. G3AQC and G3LDO were both visible in the 0500 - 0800 period. Peter's frequency shift was not a lot of hot air -- it was clearly visible here. Saw a few scraps of signal around Markus' frequency, but nothing more. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29021 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2003 06:43:24 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 06:43:24 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 19854 invoked by uid 10001); 25 Feb 2003 06:43:23 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 06:43:23 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18nYn0-0003zI-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 06:42:06 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.140] (helo=mailman2.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18nYmz-0003z9-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 06:42:05 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman2.ppco.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h1P6g30d028724 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 00:42:04 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Tue, 25 Feb 2003 00:42:01 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA07651 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 00:42:00 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:42:06 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 02/25/2003 12:42:01 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: LF: CT1DRP looking good in NC Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020406090907060008010806" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020406090907060008010806 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I was late getting back from a Mexican.....Im seeing Brian LDO's carrier but its suffering from a lot of doppler - Laurie AQC Carrier is in my favorite crud locale in 774.6/7 The doppler is really hurting (also seem on DCF even though its S7/8) but the strengths are reasonable - no sign of Brian yet. I think DCFW wont be any good tonight - get a hairdryer!! 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Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29071 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2003 06:07:02 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 06:07:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 29215 invoked by uid 10001); 25 Feb 2003 06:07:02 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 06:07:02 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18nYDF-0003pH-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 06:05:09 +0000 Received: from [212.135.6.14] (helo=smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18nYDF-0003p8-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 06:05:09 +0000 Received: from tnt-5-60.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.200.60] helo=erica) by smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18nYDE-00098e-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 06:05:08 +0000 Message-ID: <000401c2dc94$5a446ee0$3cc828c3@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001001c2dc8e$d08a8180$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 06:08:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: T/ATonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > Cndx looking fairly good, Kp down to 2, so I will transmit from 0500 > on137,774.4kHz. > 73 Laurie. Hi Laurie, I am in EchoNet contact with Laurence. He asks if you can QSY down to ,774.0 or thereabouts because there is a messy carrier on or near your frequency. I think my signal may be getting through on ,772.5 but bad Doppler. I have just given my DDS a blast from Erica's hair drier to induce a noticeable frequency bump Peter G3LDO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23830 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2003 05:27:17 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 05:27:17 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 15648 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2003 05:27:14 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 05:27:14 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18nXbr-0003fl-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 05:26:31 +0000 Received: from [166.82.1.68] (helo=host3.ctc.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18nXbq-0003fc-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 05:26:30 +0000 Received: from att.net ([166.82.181.250]) by host3.ctc.net (InterMail vK.4.03.05.03 201-232-132-103 license 2d687b22c655f23831a2faa19b737467) with ESMTP id <20030225052725.NWEE1975.host3@att.net> for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 00:27:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3E5AFE7F.2051A30B@att.net> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 05:26:23 +0000 From: "Dexter McIntyre" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001001c2dc8e$d08a8180$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> Subject: Re: LF: T/ATonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Laurie, I'll do uploads every 5 minuets at: http://www.w4dex.com/argo/137khz.jpg Watching 137.772 to .775 kHz Dexter Laurie Mayhead wrote: > > Cndx looking fairly good, Kp down to 2, so I will transmit from 0500 > on137,774.4kHz. > 73 Laurie. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4582 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2003 05:19:06 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 05:19:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 19670 invoked by uid 10001); 25 Feb 2003 05:19:06 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 05:19:06 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18nXTr-0003ak-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 05:18:15 +0000 Received: from [195.92.195.175] (helo=cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18nXTr-0003ab-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 05:18:15 +0000 Received: from modem-102.belegost.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.137.230] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.10.11) id 18nXTq-0002zn-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 05:18:15 +0000 Message-ID: <001001c2dc8e$d08a8180$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 05:28:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: T/ATonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cndx looking fairly good, Kp down to 2, so I will transmit from 0500 on137,774.4kHz. 73 Laurie. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8255 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2003 05:01:50 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 05:01:50 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 9003 invoked by uid 10001); 25 Feb 2003 05:01:50 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 05:01:50 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18nXDD-0003V9-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 05:01:03 +0000 Received: from [24.153.64.2] (helo=smtp.comcast.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18nXDC-0003Uq-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 05:01:02 +0000 Received: from Charlie_Drake (pcp01445904pcs.lebnon01.pa.comcast.net [68.83.65.211]) by mtaout06.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.09 (built Jan 7 2003)) with SMTP id <0HAU009RKLWT9G@mtaout06.icomcast.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 00:00:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 00:00:27 -0500 From: "Steve Dove" In-reply-to: <3E5AF155.8721113@att.net> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: Organization: d s p MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Opera 6.04 build 1135 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: LF: CT1DRP looking good in NC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.8 required=6.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,INVALID_MSGID,IN_REP_TO,NOSPAM_INC, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Wotcha, Brian's OK here but it's a bit noisy. Will leave capturing on for him and possibly Markus. G'nite, Steve 2/24/2003 11:30:13 PM, Dexter McIntyre wrote: >Even with moderate QRN Brian's signal, 137773.6 Hz, is Q5 at times >tonight. DCF39 is choppy but peaks are close to the highest recorded so >far. > >W4DEX > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24178 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2003 04:34:39 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 04:34:39 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 15099 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2003 04:34:40 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Feb 2003 04:34:40 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18nWjV-0003NE-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 04:30:21 +0000 Received: from [166.82.1.68] (helo=host3.ctc.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18nWjU-0003N5-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 04:30:20 +0000 Received: from att.net ([166.82.181.250]) by host3.ctc.net (InterMail vK.4.03.05.03 201-232-132-103 license 2d687b22c655f23831a2faa19b737467) with ESMTP id <20030225043115.NCXT1975.host3@att.net> for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 23:31:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3E5AF155.8721113@att.net> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 04:30:13 +0000 From: "Dexter McIntyre" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "RSGB LF" Subject: LF: CT1DRP looking good in NC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Even with moderate QRN Brian's signal, 137773.6 Hz, is Q5 at times tonight. DCF39 is choppy but peaks are close to the highest recorded so far. W4DEX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3857 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2003 23:58:17 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Feb 2003 23:58:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 26413 invoked by uid 10001); 24 Feb 2003 23:58:17 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Feb 2003 23:58:17 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18nSSg-0002Tv-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 23:56:42 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.81] (helo=tungsten.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18nSSf-0002Tm-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 23:56:41 +0000 Received: from host213-122-165-223.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.165.223] helo=Main) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18nSSf-0000zm-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 23:56:41 +0000 Message-ID: <004001c2dc60$5cdf3ba0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 23:56:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: mail bounce Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all sorry if you mail bounced this weekend it looks as though my ISP had some form of problem. Thanks to Jan-Martin and Walter for advising me. My address has not changed. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13193 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2003 16:55:10 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Feb 2003 16:55:10 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 8400 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2003 16:55:10 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Feb 2003 16:55:10 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18nLoe-00017r-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 16:50:56 +0000 Received: from [195.170.0.5] (helo=mailsrv.otenet.gr) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18nLoe-00017i-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 16:50:56 +0000 Received: from otenet.gr (myti530-a067.otenet.gr [212.205.251.195]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1OGoSAM006669 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:50:54 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3E5880C9.E57D31FA@otenet.gr> Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 10:05:29 +0200 From: "Alex Deligiannis" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en,el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: DF6NM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=6.0tests=DATE_IN_PAST_24_48,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_XM,X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi, The last 3 mornings I received DF6NM transmutation on 137.773 with very strong signal in case you want to see my capture please let me know. 73's Alex SV8QG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28193 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2003 12:57:31 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Feb 2003 12:57:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 14387 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2003 12:57:28 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Feb 2003 12:57:28 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18nI9c-0000CZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:56:20 +0000 Received: from [193.212.240.200] (helo=virus-out.ttyl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18nI9b-0000BB-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:56:19 +0000 Received: from [134.47.162.90] by virus-in.online.no with ESMTP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:55:44 +0100 Received: from tns-fbu-22-215.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.162.192]) by tns-fbu-22-208.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4453); Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:55:43 +0100 Received: from tns-fbu-22-212.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.162.91]) by tns-fbu-22-215.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4453); Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:55:43 +0100 Received: from TNS-FBU-2E-003.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.164.101]) by tns-fbu-22-212.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4453); Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:55:43 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:55:43 +0100 Message-ID: <2D280BB697C7EE4C979C5C89925418EFB05B12@TNS-FBU-2E-003.corp.telenor.no> Thread-Topic: Whoops !! re IMd Thread-Index: AcLb9zWbZe2UjRKjTRaM3BRoAOPpLQADJZIg From: jan-martin.noding@telenor.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Feb 2003 12:55:43.0366 (UTC) FILETIME=[0A7BCA60:01C2DC04] MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: RE: Whoops !! re IMd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=6.0tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: ** X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Alan suppose I am now defined as unfriendly in your MailWasher program, since you bounce my personal mail?? Jan_Martin LA8AK (in JO38XC) N4623-Kristiansand (tel.: +47-380-87178 Home)(38052660 Work 90777126 Mobile) Radio Communication http://home.online.no/~la8ak/ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 959 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2003 12:19:46 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Feb 2003 12:19:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 26940 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2003 12:02:42 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Feb 2003 12:02:42 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18nHJ5-0008Na-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:02:03 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.25] (helo=dc-mx15.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18nHJ4-0008NR-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:02:02 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx15.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 44748131 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 07:01:31 -0500 Message-ID: <001601c2dbfc$94f63480$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <14c.1c2f7736.2b896aae@aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:02:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 137.773 Feb 24th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUBJECT_MONTH,SUBJECT_MONTH_2, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Some fragments of CT1DRP were seen this morning in the 0600-0700 time frame. Also saw some pieces of what I think was G3LDO at 137772.33. Strangely, something is still showing up at 12:00 on Brian's frequency, but there's no way to make an ID. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15031 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2003 11:17:30 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Feb 2003 11:17:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 6223 invoked by uid 10001); 24 Feb 2003 11:17:29 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Feb 2003 11:17:29 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18nGbC-0008A6-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:16:42 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.93] (helo=rhenium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18nGbC-00089x-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:16:42 +0000 Received: from host213-122-206-89.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.206.89] helo=Main) by rhenium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18nGbB-0001Ln-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:16:41 +0000 Message-ID: <003901c2dbf6$2e7bd3a0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 10:44:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Whoops !! re IMd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sorry all abt the diatribe on IMD products that was a glitch in my address book and posted to the wrong Group!! Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26828 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2003 10:13:47 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Feb 2003 10:13:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 17140 invoked by uid 10001); 24 Feb 2003 10:13:34 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Feb 2003 10:13:34 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18nFbR-0007s3-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 10:12:53 +0000 Received: from [193.212.240.200] (helo=virus-out.ttyl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18nFbQ-0007ru-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 10:12:52 +0000 Received: from [134.47.162.190] by virus-in.online.no with ESMTP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:12:05 +0100 Received: from tns-fbu-22-215.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.162.192]) by tns-fbu-22-209.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4453); Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:12:04 +0100 Received: from tns-fbu-22-213.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.162.191]) by tns-fbu-22-215.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4453); Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:12:03 +0100 Received: from TNS-FBU-2E-003.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.164.101]) by tns-fbu-22-213.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4453); Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:12:03 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:12:03 +0100 Message-ID: <2D280BB697C7EE4C979C5C89925418EFB05B0D@TNS-FBU-2E-003.corp.telenor.no> Thread-Topic: Siemens D2006 Selective Level Meter/Pelelmesser Thread-Index: AcKD5urpWW5spixYT7CQhdF+ThzSeRYBeNKw From: jan-martin.noding@telenor.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Feb 2003 10:12:03.0433 (UTC) FILETIME=[2D58ED90:01C2DBED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: RE: Siemens D2006 Selective Level Meter/Pelelmesser Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=6.0tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Put some notes about measuring instruments and Pegelmessers on my site http://home.online.no/~la8ak/5.htm This domene is only 1 day old, so I hope to make it more complete later 73, Jan_Martin LA8AK (in JO38XC) N4623-Kristiansand (tel.: +47-380-87178 Home)(38052660 Work 90777126 Mobile) Radio Communication http://home.online.no/~la8ak/ -----Original Message----- From: Tracey Gardner [mailto:tracey.gardner@ntlworld.com] Sent: 4. november 2002 10:11 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Siemens D2006 Selective Level Meter/Pelelmesser Hi Jan_Martin I've got a similar problem with my level meters, they all seem to output tones between 1000Hz and 1500Hz. I'm considering using a cheap "Voice Modulator" IC the HT8950 from Holtek on the output. This is a simple 18 pin device designed for use in toys, but it offers the ability to divide a tone by certain fixed ratios. ISTR that they are 8/9, 4/5, 2/3 so that your 1000Hz could be reduced to say 666Hz with a single HT8950. If you were to daisy chain two or more 8950's you could come up with any number of combinations! It also does "Robot" and "Vibrato" effects but I can't see those being much use to us! :-) The 8950 is available in Maplin over here in the UK for about Ł2.50 and I found the application notes on web by doing a search on Google. 73s Tracey Does somebody know if it is possible to change the pitch? It has 80Hz as well as 3100Hz bandwidth, but the pitch is ca 1000Hz and not too pleasant to listen to, would rather prefer 500Hz From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25801 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2003 10:00:32 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Feb 2003 10:00:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 2852 invoked by uid 10001); 24 Feb 2003 10:00:32 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Feb 2003 10:00:31 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18nFOj-0007l0-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:59:45 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.43] (helo=mta03-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18nFOj-0007kr-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:59:45 +0000 Received: from oemcomputer ([80.4.116.236]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20030224095943.ZNFW14341.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@oemcomputer> for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:59:43 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c2dbe5$e4019d60$ec740450@oemcomputer> From: "mike.dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001501c2db26$079f0f20$ec740450@oemcomputer> <002e01c2db33$2f842680$1b00a8c0@dellboy> <003001c2db39$8c1e25c0$ec740450@oemcomputer> <000001c2dbca$76542d20$f7c828c3@erica> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:19:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: S57A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > > > Congratulations! > > > As far as I know that's the first S5/G QSO. > > > Dave G3YXM. > > > > I thought that Jim had done it already, but can't find the e-mail that > > confirms this. I was prepared for it to be another second. I believe I > was > > the second G to work OM, CT, RU and EA! > > Mike, G3XDV > > I had an attempted QSO with S57A on 8/2. It failed because of his break in > transmission, which I assumed he had put it over. > The next day I gave him a call and the break occured again in his > transmission. But this time I was ready for it and we both got report > confirmations. > Peter G3LDO > Oh, well, another second. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9591 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2003 09:13:19 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Feb 2003 09:13:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 2993 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2003 09:13:07 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Feb 2003 09:13:06 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18nEdT-0007Wg-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:10:55 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.176] (helo=protactinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18nEdT-0007WX-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:10:55 +0000 Received: from host217-34-94-187.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.94.187] helo=dellboy) by protactinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18nEdS-0003GN-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:10:54 +0000 Message-ID: <001501c2dbe4$cafefc50$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001501c2db26$079f0f20$ec740450@oemcomputer> <002e01c2db33$2f842680$1b00a8c0@dellboy> <003001c2db39$8c1e25c0$ec740450@oemcomputer> <000001c2dbca$76542d20$f7c828c3@erica> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:12:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: S57A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Ahh well Mike, you're still on the podium with the silver medal! I will update the matrix in your favour Peter. 73 Dave G3YXM ----- Original Message ----- From: "g3ldo" To: Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 10:19 PM Subject: LF: Re: S57A > > > > > > > > Congratulations! > > > As far as I know that's the first S5/G QSO. > > > Dave G3YXM. > > > > I thought that Jim had done it already, but can't find the e-mail that > > confirms this. I was prepared for it to be another second. I believe I > was > > the second G to work OM, CT, RU and EA! > > > > Mike, G3XDV > > I had an attempted QSO with S57A on 8/2. It failed because of his break in > transmission, which I assumed he had put it over. He had not so we were both > transmitting at the same time and he didn't get a confirmation of my report > The next day I gave him a call and the break occured again in his > transmission. But this time I was ready for it and we both got report > confirmations. > > Peter G3LDO > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 429 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2003 06:04:50 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 24 Feb 2003 06:04:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 28509 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2003 06:04:51 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Feb 2003 06:04:50 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18nBeP-0006uU-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 05:59:41 +0000 Received: from [212.135.6.13] (helo=smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18nBeP-0006uL-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 05:59:41 +0000 Received: from tnt-5-247.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.200.247] helo=erica) by smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18nBeN-000P7G-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 05:59:40 +0000 Message-ID: <000001c2dbca$76542d20$f7c828c3@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001501c2db26$079f0f20$ec740450@oemcomputer> <002e01c2db33$2f842680$1b00a8c0@dellboy> <003001c2db39$8c1e25c0$ec740450@oemcomputer> Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 22:19:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: S57A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=6.0tests=DATE_IN_PAST_06_12,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > > > Congratulations! > > As far as I know that's the first S5/G QSO. > > Dave G3YXM. > > I thought that Jim had done it already, but can't find the e-mail that > confirms this. I was prepared for it to be another second. I believe I was > the second G to work OM, CT, RU and EA! > > Mike, G3XDV I had an attempted QSO with S57A on 8/2. It failed because of his break in transmission, which I assumed he had put it over. He had not so we were both transmitting at the same time and he didn't get a confirmation of my report The next day I gave him a call and the break occured again in his transmission. But this time I was ready for it and we both got report confirmations. Peter G3LDO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17084 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2003 21:51:48 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 23 Feb 2003 21:51:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 28766 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2003 21:51:49 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Feb 2003 21:51:49 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18n3yE-0005YA-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 21:47:38 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.176] (helo=protactinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18n3yD-0005Y1-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 21:47:37 +0000 Received: from host213-122-210-198.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.210.198] helo=Main) by protactinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18n3yC-0005vB-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 21:47:36 +0000 Message-ID: <003401c2db85$335161e0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "VLF Group" Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 21:25:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: IMd products Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, I think there could be problems implementing my tests but the usual check for IMDs in a receiver is to put an passive attenuator in front of the receiver. Say we use a 6dB attenuator the "real" signals will be attenuated by 6dB and the 3rd order products by 18dB. This is the easiest way to identify an IMD problem in the reciever. It is possible for there to be products from signals way above where you may be listening. The standard AM station spacing in Europe is 9kHz so there could be products at around 9kHz. Another example on the 136khz amateur band is intermod usually now in the front end of the RX between BBC Radio4 from Droitwich on 198kHz and MSF (Rugby) Standard Frequency transmissions on 60kHz appear on 138kHz. Since reducing either of these signals with a filter reduces or kills the IMD in most cases, it is within the Rx or pre-amp. It is quite possible for a strong signal at night to intermod with with a signal within your groundwave range. The difficulty is trying to disentangle the modulation to identify it. If the problem is ICM (Ionospheric Cross Modulation) The two stations are probably in a line from you. both modulatons will be heard on the product but the frequency response will be quite restricted. Say one is a BC station ...there will be little modulation above about 1kHz to be heard. ICM usually require a station with a power of around 200kW, and you may get ICM from stations further away. It is quite difficult (even for the professionals) to identify the stations involved. I am not sure whether this can lead to VLF signals but I cannot see why not as it is a mixing process. The usual effect is for the distant station to be heard as low level modulation in the background of the high power station (regardless of the frequency of the distant station) There is little you can do about this form of interference unless you can drop it into the null of a loop. I am afraid that rather amessy explanation as I know but I hope it gives you a few ideas. Cheers de Alan G3NYK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31252 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2003 12:51:14 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 23 Feb 2003 12:51:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 2632 invoked by uid 10001); 23 Feb 2003 12:51:02 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Feb 2003 12:51:02 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18mvaN-00043m-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 12:50:27 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.41] (helo=mta01-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18mvaN-00043d-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 12:50:27 +0000 Received: from oemcomputer ([80.4.116.236]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20030223125026.JPYA22267.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@oemcomputer> for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 12:50:26 +0000 Message-ID: <003001c2db39$8c1e25c0$ec740450@oemcomputer> From: "mike.dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001501c2db26$079f0f20$ec740450@oemcomputer> <002e01c2db33$2f842680$1b00a8c0@dellboy> Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 12:46:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: S57A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > Congratulations! > As far as I know that's the first S5/G QSO. > Dave G3YXM. I thought that Jim had done it already, but can't find the e-mail that confirms this. I was prepared for it to be another second. I believe I was the second G to work OM, CT, RU and EA! Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25779 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2003 12:00:12 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 23 Feb 2003 12:00:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 22345 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2003 12:00:10 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Feb 2003 12:00:10 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18munB-0003rv-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 11:59:37 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.92] (helo=carbon.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18munB-0003rm-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 11:59:37 +0000 Received: from host217-34-94-187.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.94.187] helo=dellboy) by carbon.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18munB-00073l-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 11:59:37 +0000 Message-ID: <002e01c2db33$2f842680$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001501c2db26$079f0f20$ec740450@oemcomputer> Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 12:00:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: S57A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Mike. Congratulations! As far as I know that's the first S5/G QSO. Dave G3YXM. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Dennison" To: Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 10:26 AM Subject: LF: S57A > It is turning out to be a good weekend. Just had a QRSS3 QSO with S57A and > exchanged O reports at 1202km. This brings my countries worked score to 21. > > Mike, G3XDV > http://www.lf.thersgb.net > ================= > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21998 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2003 10:52:46 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 23 Feb 2003 10:52:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 7438 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2003 10:52:44 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Feb 2003 10:52:44 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18mtk6-0003aa-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 10:52:22 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.44] (helo=mta4-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18mtk6-0003aR-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 10:52:22 +0000 Received: from ian ([62.252.209.102]) by mta4-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030223105221.EKDH29609.mta4-svc.business.ntl.com@ian> for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 10:52:21 +0000 Message-ID: <001001c2db29$d141fce0$66d1fc3e@ian> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <14c.1c2f7736.2b896aae@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 10:52:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 137.773 Feb 23rd Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.8 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02,SUBJECT_MONTH,SUBJECT_MONTH_2, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi Markus,
thanks for the report on last nights transmission. I was just testing for temperature and drift with a view to putting a pipsqueak QRSS60 signal out some T/A night just for the fun of it.
Still cannot get the TX to accept the 4:50 ohm matching transformer. Huge current surge on key down followed very swiftly by fuses going like flashbulbs and lots of swearing.
Never mind, with the coil in the shack there is no real need for long runs of co-ax and the match at 4 ohms is pretty good.
 
73,
 
Ian GI8AYZ/MI0AYZ
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9133 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2003 10:39:53 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 23 Feb 2003 10:39:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 12629 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2003 10:39:54 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Feb 2003 10:39:54 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18mtRI-0003Tu-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 10:32:56 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.47] (helo=mta07-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18mtRH-0003Tl-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 10:32:55 +0000 Received: from oemcomputer ([80.4.116.236]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20030223103254.DEAB3191.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@oemcomputer> for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 10:32:54 +0000 Message-ID: <001501c2db26$079f0f20$ec740450@oemcomputer> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 10:26:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: S57A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false It is turning out to be a good weekend. Just had a QRSS3 QSO with S57A and exchanged O reports at 1202km. This brings my countries worked score to 21. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ================= From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15456 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2003 03:13:51 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 23 Feb 2003 03:13:51 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 17185 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2003 03:13:48 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Feb 2003 03:13:48 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18mmZm-0000nG-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 03:13:14 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.10] (helo=mailman1.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18mmZl-0000n7-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 03:13:13 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman1.ppco.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h1N3DC5o011476 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:13:12 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:13:11 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA05118 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:13:10 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 18:13:07 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 02/22/2003 09:13:10 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Drooping signal G3ldo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Its a "very distinguished" signal - certainly helps recognition. DCF39 peaking quickly/nicely at the moment 0315Z Laurence KL1X From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29961 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2003 01:14:53 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 23 Feb 2003 01:14:53 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 17476 invoked by uid 10001); 23 Feb 2003 01:14:53 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Feb 2003 01:14:53 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18mkiU-0000P7-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 01:14:06 +0000 Received: from [166.82.1.68] (helo=host3.ctc.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18mkiT-0000Oy-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 01:14:05 +0000 Received: from att.net ([166.82.181.250]) by host3.ctc.net (InterMail vK.4.03.05.03 201-232-132-103 license 2d687b22c655f23831a2faa19b737467) with ESMTP id <20030223011500.PSEU29922.host3@att.net> for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 20:15:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3E58205C.20C35DA3@att.net> Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 01:14:04 +0000 From: "Dexter McIntyre" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <14c.1c2f7736.2b896aae@aol.com> Subject: Re: LF: 137.773 Feb 23rd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=6.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, SUBJECT_MONTH,SUBJECT_MONTH_2,X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false MarkusVester@aol.com wrote: W4DEX currently seems to be swamped by noise. You are correct about the noise Markus. The 4.5 blank space in the plot is where I disconnected the antenna while a line of thunderstorms passed. We had many close cloud to ground bomb sounding hits during this period. Looks like another line of activity will pass though overnight. Whenever you see blank spaces in the plot or missing time lightning will probably be the reason. W4DEX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12288 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2003 00:30:29 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 23 Feb 2003 00:30:29 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 17436 invoked by uid 10001); 23 Feb 2003 00:30:29 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Feb 2003 00:30:29 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18mk1q-0000Dr-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 00:30:02 +0000 Received: from [209.226.175.55] (helo=tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18mk1q-0000Dc-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 00:30:02 +0000 Received: from lsk.sympatico.ca ([209.226.189.48]) by tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20030223003000.GHYN2002.tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net@lsk.sympatico.ca> for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 19:30:00 -0500 Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030222192304.029d7400@pop2.sympatico.ca> X-Sender: b1aemm59@pop2.sympatico.ca (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 19:29:51 -0500 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Larry Kayser" In-reply-to: <000901c2da6d$0ee6eaa0$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: Surprise everyone..... Laurie watch this..... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.6 required=6.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false At 07:21 03/02/22, Laurie Mayhead wrote: >Saw CT1DRP, last night, but cdx for T/A DX poor. >73 Laurie. Well Laurie you spoke just a tiny bit to soon. Last night a VO1 in Newfoundland, using an indoor loop and a preamp I sent him copied Brian just fine on ARGO for his first Transatlantic reception on 136 KHz. I wish you all well and sure wish I lived in VO1 but I don't so finally there is a VO1 about to join you and he is already playing with big FETs.....and aiming for a few hundred watts of worm warming power. Wish you all well. 73 Larry VA3LK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20430 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2003 00:23:36 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 23 Feb 2003 00:23:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 13496 invoked by uid 10001); 23 Feb 2003 00:23:24 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Feb 2003 00:23:24 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18mjuP-00007Q-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 00:22:21 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.19] (helo=mx09.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18mjuO-00007H-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 00:22:20 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by mx09.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 75231610 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 19:21:49 -0500 Message-ID: <000701c2dad1$aa54cf20$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <14c.1c2f7736.2b896aae@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 00:22:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 137.773 Feb 23rd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUBJECT_MONTH,SUBJECT_MONTH_2, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Static crashes are 30 over S9 here tonight, with pouring rain. Even my favorite Loran line looks watery. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25269 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2003 00:08:22 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 23 Feb 2003 00:08:22 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 25309 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2003 00:08:23 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Feb 2003 00:08:22 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18mjgL-0008Uv-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 00:07:49 +0000 Received: from [205.188.157.40] (helo=imo-d08.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18mjgG-0008Sy-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 00:07:44 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id l.14c.1c2f7736 (4418) for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 19:07:10 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <14c.1c2f7736.2b896aae@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 19:07:10 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 10607 Subject: LF: 137.773 Feb 23rd Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=6.0tests=MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, SUBJECT_MONTH,SUBJECT_MONTH_2version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi all,

just before midnight UT there is some activity in Europe:

137774.01  DF0WD   (qrss60) calling Brian
137773.60  CT1DRP  (qrss60) beaconing
137773.40  MI0AYZ   (qrss30) cq

DCF39 field strength at W3EEE looks good above a relatively high baseline, whereas W4DEX currently seems to be swamped by noise. I intend to transmit on 137773.20/.30 DFCW soon.

73 de Markus, DF6NM
 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18175 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2003 23:38:20 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 22 Feb 2003 23:38:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 1671 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2003 23:38:18 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 22 Feb 2003 23:38:18 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18mjD9-0008KW-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:37:39 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.26] (helo=mx16.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18mjD8-0008KN-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:37:39 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by mx16.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 42380880 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 18:37:07 -0500 Message-ID: <000501c2dacb$6bba8f80$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002c01c2d9a8$142cab00$0500a8c0@charter.net> <001001c2dabb$aa2842e0$cac428c3@erica> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:37:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Drooping signal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Peter, > The DDS is moved 0.1Hz per change of 1 deg C. When I noticed the frequency > downward drift I went down and opened the door of the transmitter shed - > hence the reversal of frequency drift. And here I was...waiting for an explanation about how the cesium beam lost collimation. I do feel the tiniest bit let down. What you really need is a GPS-controlled shed door opener. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27604 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2003 21:45:36 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 22 Feb 2003 21:45:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 24800 invoked by uid 10001); 22 Feb 2003 21:45:35 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 22 Feb 2003 21:45:35 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18mhOe-0007zY-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:41:24 +0000 Received: from [212.135.6.14] (helo=smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18mhOe-0007zP-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:41:24 +0000 Received: from tnt-2-202.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.196.202] helo=erica) by smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18mhOR-000OWR-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:41:22 +0000 Message-ID: <001001c2dabb$aa2842e0$cac428c3@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002c01c2d9a8$142cab00$0500a8c0@charter.net> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:44:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Drooping signal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi John > Here's the visual evidence. John Andrews sent (direct) a capture of my signal on the morning of the 22nd when a fragment was received by KL1X. I feel this droopy signal needs general explanation so I have replied via the reflector. John Thanks very much for the Jpeg. It turned out to be a much more useful capture than just a record of frequency instability. While I was transmitting I was monitoring my transmission on Argo and noticed the frequency drifting low. I think you know that I have my transmitter in a shed at the bottom of the garden, together with the DDS driver. At this time of the year the temperature can drop to as low a -8C. The DDS frequency is sensitive to temperature but if the shed stays cold it is unaffected by the transmitter being on or my presence. When the temperature in the transmitter shack is around 0C then heat from the transmitter can raise the temperature by about 1 to 2 deg C. The DDS is moved 0.1Hz per change of 1 deg C. When I noticed the frequency downward drift I went down and opened the door of the transmitter shed - hence the reversal of frequency drift. Now while this is hardly good engineering practice the signal characteristic enabled me to compare it with the signal received by KL1X and confirm it was a D he received at the lowest part of the dip of the frequency drift. The plan is to eventually have the DDS unit, plus a divide by 10 circuit and driver, in the house shack by the side of the receiver. This will give me 0.1Hz resolution and more stability - and less 'characteristic'. Regards, Peter, G3LDO e-mail Web From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9421 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2003 18:07:40 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 22 Feb 2003 18:07:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 26518 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2003 18:07:38 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 22 Feb 2003 18:07:38 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18me3D-0007H9-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 18:07:03 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.45] (helo=mta05-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18me3D-0007H0-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 18:07:03 +0000 Received: from oemcomputer ([80.4.116.236]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20030222180701.NWFA2341.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@oemcomputer> for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 18:07:01 +0000 Message-ID: <000401c2da9c$b0289c40$ec740450@oemcomputer> From: "mike.dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000901c2da6d$0ee6eaa0$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 18:03:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: LF this AM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, UPPERCASE_25_50,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > FB condx on 136 this morning ! worked OH1BS, DF9WD, SM1LCA, DK7SU, DL2HRE, > OK1DTN. > Saw CT1DRP, last night, but cdx for T/A DX poor. > Kp index up again !!! > 73 Laurie. I worked OK1DTN on CW. Not bad for my 100mW ERP. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ================= From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27099 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2003 17:43:58 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 22 Feb 2003 17:43:58 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 20105 invoked by uid 10001); 22 Feb 2003 17:43:58 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 22 Feb 2003 17:43:58 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18mdfo-0007AG-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 17:42:52 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.10] (helo=mailman1.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18mdfn-0007A7-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 17:42:51 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman1.ppco.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h1MHgl5o013046 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 11:42:47 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Sat, 22 Feb 2003 11:42:46 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28889 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 11:42:44 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 08:42:43 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 02/22/2003 11:42:45 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Beacons as guides ( NOT long & boring) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_02_03version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Thanks Alan for your comments- This 137Khz band has more modes and variability than 50Mhz, and some remarkable but distant similariities....Ill be erecting another loop today if I can persuade this large cow moose to leave base of the tower. Overnight - not brilliant (another technical term....) DCF and European (sic) interference splurges on 137. 7747 came out of the noise from 0330Z and peaked, again, at 0400Z for about an hour. Eu Broadcast stations were audible, but down on the previous night. No signals on 137 seen. Not worth waking anybody up but Brian seems to be burning the midnight oil.... Laurence KL1X Clear -5C From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3754 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2003 12:16:19 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 22 Feb 2003 12:16:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 17999 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2003 12:16:08 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 22 Feb 2003 12:16:08 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18mYVJ-0006EA-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 12:11:41 +0000 Received: from [195.92.193.210] (helo=cmailm2.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18mYVH-0006E1-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 12:11:39 +0000 Received: from modem-20.arthad.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.128.20] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailm2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18mYVG-0001KV-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 12:11:39 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c2da6d$0ee6eaa0$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 12:21:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: LF this AM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.3 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,UPPERCASE_25_50,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: ** X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi All, FB condx on 136 this morning ! worked OH1BS, DF9WD, SM1LCA, DK7SU, DL2HRE, OK1DTN. Saw CT1DRP, last night, but cdx for T/A DX poor. Kp index up again !!! 73 Laurie. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30214 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2003 03:47:08 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 22 Feb 2003 03:47:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 18340 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2003 03:47:06 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 22 Feb 2003 03:47:06 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18mQc0-0004d0-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 03:46:04 +0000 Received: from [63.171.43.2] (helo=ns2.genesis-technology.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18mQbz-0004cq-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 03:46:04 +0000 Received: from we0h ([65.165.20.192]) by ns2.genesis-technology.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h1M3juV13624 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 21:45:56 -0600 From: "WE0H" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 21:47:30 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20030221160125.00b55ea0@u0019445.kuleuven.be> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: RE: LF: W1TAG Captures Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=6.0tests=IN_REP_TO,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OUTLOOKversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Is there a modem on the other end??? That download was the slowest I have seen since the 56k modem days. Dang. Mike>WE0H http://www.we0h.us/lf -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 9:11 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: W1TAG Captures Hello group, A number of stations in the US are putting their ARGO screen captures more or less real time on the web. Some years ago I wrote a small program that just downloads a JPEG file from the web at a given interval and shows it on screen. At that time it was just an exercise to get familiar with the Delphi internet facilities, but now it might be useful to follow the TA propagation in real-time (see you own signal crossing the pond ... ). Whoever is interested can download the zipped EXE file from : http://www.qsl.net/on7yd/zip/rapido.zip 73, Rik ON7YD At 23:33 19/02/2003 +0000, you wrote: >I have started the captures here. They are posted every 15 minutes to: >http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/136-1.jpg > >The screen covers 137.772 to 137.775 kHz. Based on the reports of Brian's >frequency, he is already being received here. > >I'll be out for a couple of hours, but should be back by 0200. > >John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14183 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2003 01:21:16 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 22 Feb 2003 01:21:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 10740 invoked by uid 10001); 22 Feb 2003 01:21:16 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 22 Feb 2003 01:21:16 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18mOLN-00046z-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 01:20:45 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.176] (helo=protactinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18mOLN-00046p-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 01:20:45 +0000 Received: from host213-122-40-224.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.40.224] helo=Main) by protactinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18mOLL-00067s-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 01:20:43 +0000 Message-ID: <004c01c2da10$9b84d1a0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 01:18:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Beacons as guides (long & boring) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, Several stations have made the point that the plots produced by Brian, Steve, and Dex are not a true reading of conditions. This is partially true as outlined in my previous diatribes. Rik organised a mass plot of CFH back in Dec 2000 (or was it 1999) before it went off air. We received logs from widely spaced European stations and they were all very different. The peaks and troughs all appeared at different times. So on that basis "yes a beacon only reads the path conditions between you and the beacon transmistter site". The conditions can be different if one moved as little as 25kms away. There is evidence from the early tests that the paths correlated very well with CFH levels in the UK....but then our target listener VE1ZJ was only a few miles from Newport Corner, Halifax. QRSS3 signals popped out of the noise coincident with peaks in CFH received at my location. Remember we are often using QRSS60 now, which I think is another 13dB "gain" The way to use the beacons is to study the levels against a benchmark of some kind, like my "artificial" average plots. This immediately tells whether conditions are better of worse that the night before, or last week. The next thing is to try to relate the conditions to the "phase" of a geomagnetic event. I tried to indicate three distinct phases in my HFC2000 paper. One then needs geomag indexes going back about a month. These are available as a compact text file at 3 hourly intervals from NOAA at www.sec.noaa.gov/ftpdir/indices/old_indices which I find most useful. You can access archive for the last ten years or so. I use the Kp index because it is logarithmic, and so seems to give sensible but small "warning" numbers". Kp<3 I find it difficult to see the effects but that is not suprising during a solar peak Kp=4 I think we have seen a beneficial effect after a long quiet (Kp<3) period Kp=5 this is slated as "Minor Storm" and does depress night-time conditions about 3 days after the storm (depending upon the lattitudes of the path) normal length of effect up to a week. Kp=8 Major storm, enhanced day-time skywave and very depressed night-time levels starting about 3 days after the event again. The effects (poor night-time levels) can last from 2 weeks up to a month. The most consistent conditions are during a quiet period when there has not been a storm for several weeks and Kp is in the 1-2 range. This does not give the best levels but there is little fading, perhaps one trough at about 0230-0300z. Best levels seems to be achieved on the "coat-tails" of an event as the precipitated electrons are decaying. Laurie and I have used a guide of about 14 days into an event, and this has been found retrospectively to work reasonably well. The problem with the last conditions is that they depend upon the constructive interference between several propagation paths of different lengths, so they are very dependent on the geography of the stations involved. They can however provide enhancement of up to 10dB over "quiet" path levels. The situation at present is that we have had a quiet period (late Dec early Jan) followed with some isolated Kp=4 conditions that led to spectacular levels in the second two weeks of Jan. We then had a minor storm Kp=5 around the 23rd Jan which killed these good times, and the conditions have been "topped-up" by a succession of "unsettled" (Kp=4) periods which have kept the level of precipitated electrons in the D-layer up to absorbing densities. these Kp=4 after the strom are extending its effect whereas after a quiet period they were giving up "highs" Of course while these points affect the path to Laurence at Anchorage, PCAs Stratwarms, and the auroral curtain also help to complicate the picture. I hope that is not too confusing but it is how I see conditions developing. The LF propagation variables are many and complex, and there is no single "magic number" that will give "right answer". There is no doubt that the tireless work of several stations in providing continuous monitoring of these commercial stations gives us valuable data. I joke that in about another 10 years time, when we have data for a whole solar cycle, we might have some handles on it. I doubt it will be that easy!! My invaluable "Propagation Experts tool", my Las Vegas Lucky Rabbit's paw insists that I add a "health warning" ....he says he is doing his best. To a certain extent it is like early weather forecasting......if you say tomorrow will be like today, you will be correct slightly more than 50% of the time. I am afraid my abilities at LF forecasting are about in that league. Things change relatively slowly, so maybe its not a bad method if you dont have anything better. Please if you know that I am making a fool of myself, and share the information with me. This is very much a learning exercise for me, but my thoughts are based on lots of recorded data, not clever theories or "computer simulations" (Oh Meow!!). Bore over....press delete Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/index.htm#propagation From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13604 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2003 01:20:26 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 22 Feb 2003 01:20:26 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 29914 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2003 01:20:27 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 22 Feb 2003 01:20:27 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18mOK4-000464-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 01:19:24 +0000 Received: from [166.82.1.69] (helo=host4.ctc.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18mOK3-00045v-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 01:19:23 +0000 Received: from att.net ([166.82.181.250]) by host4.ctc.net (InterMail vK.4.03.05.03 201-232-132-103 license 2d687b22c655f23831a2faa19b737467) with ESMTP id <20030222012045.EZIX3575.host4@att.net> for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:20:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3E56D019.8A51F898@att.net> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 01:19:21 +0000 From: "Dexter McIntyre" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000b01c2d9a0$3e0365c0$0500a8c0@charter.net> <000f01c2da07$e2f92440$0500a8c0@charter.net> Subject: Re: LF: Re: 22nd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false John Andrews wrote: > > The static crashes are chopping things up a bit, but CT1DRP is presently > visible here at 0010 on 137773.6. DCF39 can't even get above the QRN here. Turn up the wick Brian! W4DEX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28877 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2003 00:23:13 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 22 Feb 2003 00:23:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 17040 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2003 00:23:11 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 22 Feb 2003 00:23:11 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18mNMc-0003qo-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 00:17:58 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.22] (helo=dc-mx12.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18mNMc-0003qO-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 00:17:58 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx12.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 89300690 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 19:17:25 -0500 Message-ID: <000f01c2da07$e2f92440$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000b01c2d9a0$3e0365c0$0500a8c0@charter.net> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 00:18:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 22nd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false The static crashes are chopping things up a bit, but CT1DRP is presently visible here at 0010 on 137773.6. I'll leave the capture running overnight, with shots visible at: http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/136-1.jpg John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6049 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2003 17:23:34 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 21 Feb 2003 17:23:34 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 12457 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2003 17:23:32 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Feb 2003 17:23:32 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18mGsX-0002Pf-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 17:22:29 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.10] (helo=mailman1.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18mGsW-0002PW-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 17:22:28 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman1.ppco.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h1LHMO5o006855 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:22:26 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:22:22 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06354 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:22:21 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 08:22:20 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 02/21/2003 11:22:22 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Noises, off. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I would concur with Steve - given my limited experience here, last night wasn't that glorious - but a lot better (is "better" a scientific word?)...static levels even up here in Anchorage were high but not killing. I haven't heard or seem a lightning flash here in Anchorage in nearly 3 years...but we do get them in the summer more in the Interior. Conditions last night were kinda interesting - early the Eu signals had that, lets called it,. "doppler" spreading signature, by 0200Z signals had taken more of a normal bandwidth. By 0345Z LF Broadcast signals from France were coming up, and competing with the Norwegian on 153Khz - as was the noisy carrier signal on 137.774.7 (+-0.3Hz sort of spread) which always seem to be a precursor or a slight indicator of good things to Eu. (can anybody see this in EU at all?) I think I was a little late in waking Peter up at 0430Z ish and conditions dropped pretty fast by 0530 - but at the time of Peters/DL7NM best signal, DCF had dropped to par with audible noise, and a little later I had a glimpse of what I taking as Brians' CT1DRPs signal.. This propagation stuff acts more like SpE at times! Again for the 5th time in as many days 0400Z was the peak....to somewhere.... I reckon, based on Jan 5/6 being what I would see as "best signal and s/n" that we were something like 20dB down last night on what I might see on a quiet nights drinking. Personally I take in as much graph data/real time logs and data as possible - it adds a lot to the story. So thanks again to the plotters and servers. I was communicating with Alan NYK about SIDs and wondered if, as the Alaska to Europe path in midwinter is mostly in darkness but lit at the Eu end whether you guys might make it during an Eu daylight SID event....more monitoring required. The system will be up again from 0000Z again although I continue to relay noiz via Echolink - great to see so many people having a look in. Plans afoot to build a big loop this weekend to see if I can improve the s/n further. Im going to see if I can figure out the export jpeg stuff - thanks. Laurence KL1X Light Snow on the ATU -6C From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8060 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2003 15:09:42 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 21 Feb 2003 15:09:42 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 28258 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2003 15:09:40 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Feb 2003 15:09:40 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18mEnU-0001qK-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:09:08 +0000 Received: from [24.153.64.2] (helo=smtp.comcast.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18mEnT-0001px-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:09:07 +0000 Received: from Charlie_Drake (pcp01445904pcs.lebnon01.pa.comcast.net [68.83.65.211]) by mtaout06.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.09 (built Jan 7 2003)) with SMTP id <0HAN00MKMZEBDO@mtaout06.icomcast.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:08:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:08:23 -0500 From: "Steve Dove" In-reply-to: <005f01c2d9a2$1f9ce320$ea2965d5@oemcomputer> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: Organization: d s p MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Opera 6.04 build 1135 X-Priority: 3 Subject: LF: Noises, off. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=6.0tests=INVALID_MSGID,IN_REP_TO,NOSPAM_INC,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Greetings, Congrats to Peter, Brian and Markus on making traces with Lawrence. Dex's and my plots of DCF-39 last night tell an interesting tale and are object lessons in what heavy lightning static looks like on such plots. The static started off bad and steadily got worse as the night progressed; it was sufficiently bad I didn't bother setting up the second radio/'puter for Argoing. The spectrogram of DCF-39 just showed a solid continuous wall of strikes during the night. Most noteworthy though is the QRN's sudden death as propagation to the storm-ridden south-central US went away! So, this is something else to throw in the mix when deciding if 'tonight's the night' - if the target is the US, then a look at http://www.lightningstorm.com could be very informative. We 'hear' Florida and Texas really well! As a consequence last night I couldn't 'see' out of my backyard, barely a few sadly limping Loran lines hacked to pieces. The degradation on an 'Argo' screen is deceptively subtle - no bright jaggy lines or flashing red lights (except on the signal level bar-graph with individual strikes), just the signals go away and perhaps an increased texture to the background noise carpet. It really doesn't take much lightning to shoot plots to pieces. Somebody earlier made the point that perhaps a lot of people are waiting for 'ideal conditions'. We might be suffering from an overdose of information from plots such as at w3eee.com (and now lightingstorm.com!) which may or may not be telling us all we need to know, although are significant pieces of the puzzle. It takes a happy 'accident' like the other night to show that ultimate propagation isn't the ultimate key; I'm sure those pioneering TA QSOs and 'takes' a couple of years ago weren't at glorious peaks either - it was more a case of "well, let's just do it". I'm becoming more and more convinced that a larger part of success is due to quiet conditions at the receiving end than massive propagation. Cheers, Steve . . . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2558 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2003 15:05:25 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 21 Feb 2003 15:05:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 20968 invoked by uid 10001); 21 Feb 2003 15:05:25 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Feb 2003 15:05:24 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18mEhq-0001lr-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:03:18 +0000 Received: from [134.58.240.45] (helo=thumbler.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18mEhp-0001lh-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:03:17 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thumbler.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BDB024AE8B for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:02:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from antonius.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (antonius.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.73]) by thumbler.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521BF24AE62 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:02:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (pc-10-33-165-177.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [10.33.165.177]) by antonius.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 385684C0D1 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:02:47 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030221160125.00b55ea0@u0019445.kuleuven.be> X-Sender: u0019445@u0019445.kuleuven.be X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:11:02 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" In-reply-to: <002901c2d86f$55c2e280$0500a8c0@charter.net> References: <5.2.0.9.2.20030219230837.00b21ec0@pop.sapo.pt> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: KULeuven Anti-Virus Cluster Subject: Re: LF: W1TAG Captures Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=6.0tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello group, A number of stations in the US are putting their ARGO screen captures more or less real time on the web. Some years ago I wrote a small program that just downloads a JPEG file from the web at a given interval and shows it on screen. At that time it was just an exercise to get familiar with the Delphi internet facilities, but now it might be useful to follow the TA propagation in real-time (see you own signal crossing the pond ... ). Whoever is interested can download the zipped EXE file from : http://www.qsl.net/on7yd/zip/rapido.zip 73, Rik ON7YD At 23:33 19/02/2003 +0000, you wrote: >I have started the captures here. They are posted every 15 minutes to: >http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/136-1.jpg > >The screen covers 137.772 to 137.775 kHz. Based on the reports of Brian's >frequency, he is already being received here. > >I'll be out for a couple of hours, but should be back by 0200. > >John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9926 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2003 12:47:18 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 21 Feb 2003 12:47:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 26733 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2003 12:47:15 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Feb 2003 12:47:15 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18mCZW-0001Ae-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:46:34 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.14] (helo=dc-mx04.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18mCZT-0001AS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:46:32 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx04.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 75607985 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 07:45:59 -0500 Message-ID: <001f01c2d9a7$4b532060$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001701c2d9a5$6d503740$27e086d4@erica> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:46:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Feb 20th./21st Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.3 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, SUBJECT_MONTH,SUBJECT_MONTH_2,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Peter, > Transmitted this morning and received the attached from KL1X. Clearly not a > definite identification but it was on the same frequency and had the same > downward drift rate as the signal monitored at the transmitter. I'll certainly confirm the freq and drift at that point. It's your signal. > The fragment of signal on .7731 coincided with a transmission from DL7NM who > was transmitting at the time. Not seen here. John A. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13291 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2003 12:33:45 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 21 Feb 2003 12:33:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 3161 invoked by uid 10001); 21 Feb 2003 12:33:45 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Feb 2003 12:33:44 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18mCJT-00014e-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:29:59 +0000 Received: from [212.135.6.13] (helo=smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18mCJS-00014T-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:29:58 +0000 Received: from tnt-18-39.easynet.co.uk ([212.134.224.39] helo=erica) by smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18mCJG-000ER2-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:29:46 +0000 Message-ID: <001701c2d9a5$6d503740$27e086d4@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:32:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Feb 20th./21st Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070608030808060405080002" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUBJECT_MONTH,SUBJECT_MONTH_2, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070608030808060405080002 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Transmitted this morning and received the attached from KL1X. Clearly not a definite identification but it was on the same frequency and had the same downward drift rate as the signal monitored at the transmitter. The fragment of signal on .7731 coincided with a transmission from DL7NM who was transmitting at the time. 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from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Feb 2003 12:08:50 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18mByE-0000uH-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:08:02 +0000 Received: from [130.244.199.130] (helo=fep02-svc.swip.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18mByD-0000u8-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:08:01 +0000 Received: from oemcomputer ([213.101.36.55]) by fep02-svc.swip.net with SMTP id <20030221120759.LYDU26670.fep02-svc.swip.net@oemcomputer> for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:07:59 +0100 Message-ID: <005f01c2d9a2$1f9ce320$ea2965d5@oemcomputer> From: "Johan Bodin" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <7a.3941a5d2.2b86c57c@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:09:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: Feb 19th./20th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.9 required=6.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUBJECT_MONTH,SUBJECT_MONTH_2, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Wolf DL4YHF wrote: > At the moment, its really DCF39 transmitting there on 138.83 kHz. I wrote a > crude FSK demodulator + decoder for it (based on Klaus Betkes info), and > found it still sends a plain ASCII string "DCF39" occasionally. I also checked the 200 baud data from DCF39 some time ago and found that the packet format was surprisingly similar to the "M-BUS" format used for remote reading from water, heat and energy meters. Same header, same start & stop characters etc. 73 Johan SM6LKM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2085 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2003 11:57:23 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 21 Feb 2003 11:57:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 21724 invoked by uid 10001); 21 Feb 2003 11:57:12 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Feb 2003 11:57:12 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18mBmd-0000or-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:56:03 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.13] (helo=dc-mx03.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18mBmd-0000oe-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:56:03 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx03.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 90783433 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 06:55:31 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01c2d9a0$3e0365c0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:56:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 21st Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false G3LDO and CT1DRP were visible this morning. Looks like Peter's rig took a little while to warm up. Nothing else seen. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32281 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2003 03:56:41 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 21 Feb 2003 03:56:41 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 1369 invoked by uid 10001); 21 Feb 2003 03:56:30 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Feb 2003 03:56:29 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18m4EQ-0007PZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 03:52:14 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.10] (helo=mailman1.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18m4EM-0007PQ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 03:52:10 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman1.ppco.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h1L3q95o021691 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 21:52:09 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 20 Feb 2003 21:52:07 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA06038 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 21:52:06 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 18:52:01 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 02/20/2003 09:52:07 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Subject: LF: 0300Z 21st Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040500040805070402010204" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040500040805070402010204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lots of spread on DCF39 at the moment 0300Z - S5 - who said FSK would be easy. Auroral in nature? 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(helo=imo-m08.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18m0aD-0006fP-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:58:29 +0000 Received: from DL4YHF@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id l.7a.3941a5d2 (14374) for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 18:57:48 -0500 (EST) From: DL4YHF@aol.com Message-ID: <7a.3941a5d2.2b86c57c@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 18:57:48 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 for Windows XP sub 50 Subject: Re: LF: Feb 19th./20th Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=6.0tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUBJECT_MONTH, SUBJECT_MONTH_2version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Laurence and group,

You wrote:

> I would be interested in reports ..how clearly you see
DC (or B!)F39 or Loran lines via this link - using QRSS 10/30/60...or not.
<

At the moment, its really DCF39 transmitting there on 138.83 kHz. I wrote a crude FSK demodulator + decoder for it (based on Klaus Betkes info), and found it still sends a plain ASCII string "DCF39" occasionally.

Regards,
 Wolf  DL4YHF. 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Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:54:10 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 02/20/2003 01:54:13 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: Feb 19th./20th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_03_05,SUBJECT_MONTH,SUBJECT_MONTH_2version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Conditions "up North" Last night 20th Feb 03 - well nothing to write home up here Im afraid, but were improved a bit over the past days if DCF39 is used as a target. Using 2Khz b/w on the 870 I can receive the area of interest and keep an eye on the data beacon (as can people using the Echolink, link) - I didnt receive anything clearly callsign last night at all, but I did get a dot and a rough dash from someone! .......;-)) This morning, at 1500Z my time I couldnt even detect the data sig using Argo - this is rare by the way. As another indicator I do use the bcast band on 150-200Khz as another localized Eu indicator. Looking last night only one Russian the Northern Scandinavian were audible. If I cant hear the French or even BBCR4 at all - like last night - I know (generally) that things are not too good in middle earth.....For Europeans they cant look for any local beacon stations this way - we have some bcst up in the 500Khz region but that's far far removed from LF in my mind, we have TX in Washington state on 24.8Khz I think but thats a few 0000 Kms away. I agree with the comments on using DCF39 solely - as a general indicator but often its stronger here during the day than night! My adage is try try try again, even when it looks poor,; sorry about your power bills, fires, lost sleep etc.! I did some background measurements to give me an order of magnitude idea of my interference noise level here - using a SLMS termed/pads in 2.4Khz b/w, low distortion setting, I get an average -91dBm/50/75 ohms shown...this, given the fact that this is raw, un noise blanked, un filtered to most extent and with a heck of a lot of loran spill over is quite good. It equates to a raw "S 5 or 6", dependant on whose dBv, m, u or whatever you use. I do back off the agc and looking at the beacon as a source, gain about 2 db further into the mush by doing this - If you listen on Echolink you just hear mush and miss the QRN and static crashes spikes which would pin the AGC to something like 9 +10 on some flashes last night. I leave in 6dB of attenuation given the noise figure which gives me another 0.2dB further into the mush....It would/will be lovely to get Loran out of ere....the loop antennae here never gives me any improvement on local s/n so I use the big antennae....The 870 noise banker is excellent (I mean excellent) at kicking out Loran. Will be on again this evening - Echolink KL1X continues to transmit 137/137Khz audio in real time from here - I would be interested in reports using your Argo linked to this connection remotely of how clearly you see DC (or B!)F39 or Loran lines via this link - using QRSS 10/30/60...or not. Doing a side by side comparison of what I see on my computer directly connection to the 870 and what I see coming back via the Internet are not much different - more on this anon. Mal can you resend me your email address - Im not on 160m at the moment as the tower is being worked on.... Well done on last night chaps...more this evening!? Laurence KL1X Clear -5c From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22713 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2003 19:48:58 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 19:48:58 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 3804 invoked by uid 10001); 20 Feb 2003 19:48:57 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 19:48:57 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lwg1-0005jH-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 19:48:13 +0000 Received: from [194.65.79.75] (helo=sapo.pt) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lwg0-0005j8-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 19:48:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 14096 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2003 19:48:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sapo.pt) (194.65.79.79) by relay1.ptm.pt with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 19:48:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 8275 invoked by uid 0); 20 Feb 2003 19:48:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO slave-5.sapo.pt) (brian_@sapo.pt@[213.13.224.237]) (envelope-sender ) by sapo.pt (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 20 Feb 2003 19:48:12 -0000 Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20030220193940.00b1cec0@pop.sapo.pt> X-Sender: brian_@sapo.pt@pop.sapo.pt X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 19:47:26 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Brian Rogerson" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: 19-20 February Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUBJECT_MONTH,SUBJECT_MONTH_2version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I would like to thank the stations who have contacted me, who made and who sent captures. It was an exciting night for me and I am still suffering from the effects. 73, Brian CT1DRP From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4645 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2003 18:42:50 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 18:42:50 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 12338 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2003 18:42:50 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 18:42:50 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lvXO-0005Qa-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 18:35:14 +0000 Received: from [24.153.64.2] (helo=smtp.comcast.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lvXN-0005QP-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 18:35:13 +0000 Received: from Charlie_Drake (pcp01445904pcs.lebnon01.pa.comcast.net [68.83.65.211]) by mtaout01.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.09 (built Jan 7 2003)) with SMTP id <0HAM005WUE9T8K@mtaout01.icomcast.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:34:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:33:33 -0500 From: "Steve Dove" In-reply-to: <00af01c2d8e9$47a265c0$cba88318@ne2.client2.attbi.com> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: Organization: d s p MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Opera 6.04 build 1135 X-Priority: 3 Subject: LF: Feb 19th./20th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.2 required=6.0tests=INVALID_MSGID,IN_REP_TO,NOSPAM_INC,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, SUBJECT_MONTH,SUBJECT_MONTH_2version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Congrats all! Some piccies and story at w3eee.com. Cheers, Steve . . . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16340 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2003 14:08:12 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 14:08:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 22340 invoked by uid 10001); 20 Feb 2003 14:08:12 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 14:08:12 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lrLt-0004HL-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:07:05 +0000 Received: from [204.127.202.63] (helo=sccrmhc03.attbi.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lrLs-0004Gh-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:07:05 +0000 Received: from ham1 (c-24-131-168-203.mw.client2.attbi.com[24.131.168.203]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03) with SMTP id <20030220140631003002h0nme>; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:06:31 +0000 Message-ID: <00af01c2d8e9$47a265c0$cba88318@ne2.client2.attbi.com> From: "Denis Cote" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, lowfer@mailman.qth.net Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:06:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Overnight Captures Feb 20th Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUBJECT_MONTH,SUBJECT_MONTH_2, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Gentlemen,
 
Logged 137.774 KHz (QRSS 60) overnight from 0420 - 0956 GMT. Results as follows:
 
0420Z: Visible was CT1DRP (strongest throughout the morning) 137.773.3 KHz,
 
0612Z: Visible, CT1DRP, DF6NM (partially faded sig.) DFCW 137.773.1/137.773.2 KHz, G3LDO (strong) 137.772.6 KHz,
 
0702Z Visible, G3RDD (difficult to make out call due to spacing) 137.773.6 KHz, CT1DRP, DF6NM (Faded to oblivion), G3LDO,
 
0804Z Visible G3RDD (Slight drift , < 0.1 Hz), CT1DRP, G3LDO (gone from screen),
 
0956Z CT1DRP fading away
 
No traces of OM2TW overnight, better luck next time.
 
Congrats to Brian, CT1DRP for a fantastic signal. Great signals all around, congrats to all.
 
 
73,
Denis - W1WV
Swansea, MA
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19859 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2003 13:56:08 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 13:56:08 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 28960 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2003 13:56:06 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 13:56:06 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lr9k-0004CM-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:54:32 +0000 Received: from [166.82.1.69] (helo=host4.ctc.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lr9j-0004CD-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:54:31 +0000 Received: from att.net ([166.82.181.250]) by host4.ctc.net (InterMail vK.4.03.05.03 201-232-132-103 license 2d687b22c655f23831a2faa19b737467) with ESMTP id <20030220135553.ITGZ18345.host4@att.net> for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:55:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3E54DE0E.2989E4FF@att.net> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:54:22 +0000 From: "Dexter McIntyre" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "RSGB LF" Subject: LF: CT1DRP Q5 all night in NC! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_01_02,X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Brian's signal was solid here in NC for about 9 hours straight. The overnight captures can be seen in a directory at: http://www.w4dex.com/argo/20feb03/ G3LDO had a good signal but the 3 is missing a few dots. http://www.w4dex.com/argo/20feb03/137khz00009.jpg DF6NM between DRP and a loran line on this capture: http://www.w4dex.com/argo/20feb03/137khz00008.jpg DCF39 was fair overnight but significantly down from the best night I've seen. I suspect some good T/A opportunities have been missed while waiting for DCF39's T/A signal to look good. Dexter, W4DEX From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8648 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2003 12:15:22 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 12:15:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 23399 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2003 12:15:22 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 12:15:22 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lpaC-0003iW-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:13:44 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.17] (helo=mx07.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lpa7-0003iL-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:13:39 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by mx07.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 39553154 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 07:12:00 -0500 Message-ID: <002001c2d8d9$89173ea0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1dc.3390002.2b85ebce@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:13:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: 137.773 on 19/20th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false My apologies to those who were looking for screen shots this morning. My FTP process crashed around 0400, and the computer sat there awaiting a mouse click. But I had another computer saving captures to a local drive, so all was not lost. CT1DRP had a great signal all night, until about 0850, with no significant gaps. I caught a complete ID on a 60 second slow screen: http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/files/CT1DRP.jpg Peter speeded up to QRSS30 by the looks, with a complete ID: http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/files/G3LDO.jpg There appears to be some of Markus' DFCW just under Brian at that time. There are some more fragments visible later, but no ID. Laurie made a short DFCW appearance. Unfortunately, those were the only signals that could be clearly identified. Using Markus' information from this morning, I looked through all the shots, but couldn't see Mike or Rich. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1488 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2003 10:02:39 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 10:02:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 28968 invoked by uid 10001); 20 Feb 2003 10:02:39 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 10:02:39 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lnWL-00035h-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:01:37 +0000 Received: from [195.92.193.19] (helo=cmailm3.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lnWK-00035Y-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:01:36 +0000 Received: from modem-14.doriath.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.156.14] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailm3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18lnWK-0004Mp-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:01:36 +0000 Message-ID: <002401c2d8c8$8d1ad540$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:47:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: LF Last night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Another good night on LF. I looked in around 0630,a terriffic signal from CT1DRP,congratulations Brian, its amazing what 1W can do. I could'nt resist slipping in at the bottom end for a few minutes.I think propagation was only average so I hope all the others who were on got through. 73 Laurie G3AQC. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25720 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2003 08:34:35 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 08:34:35 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 17977 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2003 08:34:24 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 08:34:24 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lm9O-0002Xb-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:33:50 +0000 Received: from [195.37.42.2] (helo=FHAMWEN.fh-amberg-weiden.de) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lm9O-0002X3-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:33:50 +0000 Received: from fh-amberg-weiden.de (kp.fh-amberg-weiden.de [195.37.42.59]) by FHAMWEN.fh-amberg-weiden.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id JAA16225 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:38:37 +0100 Message-ID: <3E549238.483269EE@fh-amberg-weiden.de> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:30:48 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6lpin_Thomas?= Organization: FH-Amberg-Weiden X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [de]C-CCK-MCD DT (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by FHAMWEN.fh-amberg-weiden.de id JAA16225 Subject: LF: 137.72 on Feb. 20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=6.0tests=NOSPAM_INC,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02,SUBJECT_MONTH,SUBJECT_MONTH_2, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_XM,X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear LFers from across the pond (and elsewhere of course), it´s not very realistic but however: has anyone happened to see my signal last night? Working in QRSS60 I transmitted 10 times IS (for more text the PSU would fail) at about 137.77196 kHz, 1.24 Hz below the dot-frequency of DF6NM. Feb. 20, starting at 0211, 0229, 0247, 0305, 0323, 0341,0359, 0417, 0435, 0453 UTC. The last transmission ended at 0504 UTC. Vy 73 and have fun with T/A! Tom, DK1IS JN59WK www.qrz.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13647 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2003 08:30:35 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 08:30:35 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 12144 invoked by uid 10001); 20 Feb 2003 08:30:35 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 08:30:34 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lm5P-0002Up-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:29:43 +0000 Received: from [64.12.136.8] (helo=imo-m05.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lm5L-0002Ug-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:29:39 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id l.1dc.3390002 (3940) for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 03:29:02 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <1dc.3390002.2b85ebce@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 03:29:02 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 10607 Subject: Re: LF: 137.773 on 19/20th Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030600040502060508020506" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=6.0tests=MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: ** X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030600040502060508020506 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Good morning LF-group,

quite a bit of EU activity tonight from CT1DRP (137773.40), G3XDV (774.14), probably OM2TW (773.76), G3LDO (~772.74 and ~773.65), G3AQC (~773.0) and myself (773.20/.30). Though DBF39 was plotted weaker than the night before, Brian was on the stateside screenshots every time I looked, and Peter and Laurie crossed in the morning. Around 5:00, most of my own callsign was caught by Dexter and some traces by Steve as well, while I didn't manage to access John's site at the time. Antenna current was good at 2.9A and 0.5W EDRP.

Many thanks to all participants, 73

Markus, DF6NM
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hQJJKR0skExFXKhJ6dMfkfiMf8DcwDtyVfhQ1cG4lqP/AKfdb/sVfhQf/9k= --------------030600040502060508020506-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18511 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2003 07:51:56 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 07:51:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 8387 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2003 07:51:55 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 07:51:54 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18llQS-0002FO-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 07:47:24 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.46] (helo=mta06-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18llQR-0002FF-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 07:47:23 +0000 Received: from oemcomputer ([80.4.116.236]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20030220074718.DKLH4022.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@oemcomputer> for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 07:47:18 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c2d8b3$1a74c100$ec740450@oemcomputer> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 07:38:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: XDV test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I returned from a few days in GW (no radio) to find DX conditions very good, so I transmitted all night last night 19/20 Feb on 137.77425. I couldn't see myself on the various remote Argos before I went to bed, or when I got up, but I would appreciate the US stations taking a good look at this frequency on their captures. Thanks. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4886 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2003 01:38:24 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 01:38:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 25636 invoked by uid 10001); 20 Feb 2003 01:38:24 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 01:38:24 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lfec-0000jh-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 01:37:38 +0000 Received: from [205.197.48.109] (helo=gemini.smart.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lfec-0000jY-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 01:37:38 +0000 Received: from dpc000 ([162.33.221.55]) by gemini.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA21279 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:37:25 -0500 Message-ID: <000501c2d880$aeced800$cc28730a@direcpc.com> From: "lloyd chastant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:37:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: CT1DRP in Maryland Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Continuing to do captures but here is one just captured www.geocities.com/lacwman/137.jpg de Lloyd W3NF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7544 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2003 01:33:48 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 01:33:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 21490 invoked by uid 10001); 20 Feb 2003 01:33:48 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 01:33:47 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lfZW-0000fx-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 01:32:22 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.25] (helo=dc-mx15.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lfZV-0000fo-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 01:32:21 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx15.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 42369886 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:31:50 -0500 Message-ID: <001601c2d87f$f248d1e0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E54223C.2650A256@att.net> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 01:32:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: CT1DRP in MA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Brian is still coming in well as of 0130. I'm seeing another signal around 137773.65 which doesn't correspond to a Loran line, and was not there last night. John A. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18878 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2003 00:34:04 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 00:34:04 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 5149 invoked by uid 10001); 20 Feb 2003 00:34:04 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 00:34:04 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18leeA-0000Ob-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 00:33:06 +0000 Received: from [166.82.1.69] (helo=host4.ctc.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18leeA-0000OS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 00:33:06 +0000 Received: from att.net ([166.82.181.250]) by host4.ctc.net (InterMail vK.4.03.05.03 201-232-132-103 license 2d687b22c655f23831a2faa19b737467) with ESMTP id <20030220003428.EMOK16962.host4@att.net> for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:34:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3E54223C.2650A256@att.net> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 00:33:00 +0000 From: "Dexter McIntyre" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "RSGB LF" Subject: LF: CT1DRP in NC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Signal now 20+ Argo dB above noise on 137773.42 Hz! http://www.w4dex.com/argo/137khz.jpg From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27310 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 23:48:33 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 23:48:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 29345 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Feb 2003 23:48:33 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 23:48:33 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ldvX-000083-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:46:59 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.147] (helo=einsteinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ldvX-00007u-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:46:59 +0000 Received: from host213-122-78-242.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.78.242] helo=Main) by einsteinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18ldvW-00027d-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:46:58 +0000 Message-ID: <004601c2d871$34215920$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.2.0.9.2.20030219164801.00b27df0@pop.sapo.pt> <005e01c2d83e$bc24de60$09dc9384@jka> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:24:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: 137.77 on 18/19th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, I make the start of the drifty to be 0658z as near as no matters....but I cant read the signal from the trace as it seems there is something more troublesome that just drift. (That is reading direct from John's Agro screen capture). Vaino's trace starts at 0702z so if it was European I would have thought something should show. Laurie and Peter seem to be at least 20dB above the noise on Vaino's plot, and I would have expected Brian to be visible although it is a few 100kms or so further than UK. Maybe its an "LF Squeaky" (UK VHF joke, I think) Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Andrews" To: Sent: 19 February 2003 17:45 Subject: Re: LF: 137.77 on 18/19th > Brian, > > > Hi Alan, I transmitted for a short period this morning on 137774 or > thereabouts > > using my original DDSVFO if that sheds any light. 73, Brian > > Never having attempted integral calculus on an 8-bit microcontroller, how > did you train that DDS to perform that feat? Or do you just have a little > warm-up problem? > http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/files/aqcldo2.jpg > > John Andrews, W1TAG > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24346 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 23:35:12 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 23:35:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 14947 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Feb 2003 23:35:02 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 23:35:02 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ldiT-0008RP-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:33:29 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.24] (helo=dc-mx14.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ldiS-0008RG-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:33:28 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx14.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 71933831 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 18:32:56 -0500 Message-ID: <002901c2d86f$55c2e280$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.2.0.9.2.20030219230837.00b21ec0@pop.sapo.pt> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:33:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: W1TAG Captures Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I have started the captures here. They are posted every 15 minutes to: http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/136-1.jpg The screen covers 137.772 to 137.775 kHz. Based on the reports of Brian's frequency, he is already being received here. I'll be out for a couple of hours, but should be back by 0200. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21387 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 23:16:06 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 23:16:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 3118 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 23:16:08 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 23:16:07 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ldQc-0008FH-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:15:02 +0000 Received: from [194.65.79.75] (helo=sapo.pt) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ldQc-0008F8-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:15:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 26807 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 23:15:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sapo.pt) (194.65.79.79) by relay1.ptm.pt with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 23:15:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 18201 invoked by uid 0); 19 Feb 2003 23:15:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO slave-5.sapo.pt) (brian_@sapo.pt@[213.13.226.134]) (envelope-sender ) by sapo.pt (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 19 Feb 2003 23:15:03 -0000 Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20030219230837.00b21ec0@pop.sapo.pt> X-Sender: brian_@sapo.pt@pop.sapo.pt X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:14:17 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Brian Rogerson" In-reply-to: <1a0.11226fc2.2b85648a@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Frequency accuracy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=6.0tests=IN_REP_TO,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Wolf, the psu produces 56vollts and shows 8.7 amps at the moment and that is feeding one module of the Decca 5501. The output meter shows 2.5A of RF and I estimate the radiation resistance of the antenna as 140 milliohms. Say 1 watt ERP less the losses in the trees? 73, Brian At 22:51 19/02/2003, you wrote: >For heaven's sake, Brian, how many kilowatts are you feeding into the >antenna ? > >I can copy your signal with my "home"-equipment, which is an untuned wire >plugged into the TS850, lots of local noise. A long dot at 22:40 UTC and >some longer dash now (22:50). > >Or who is it ? One of my next-door-LF-neighbours ?? > >Waterfall reads 653.37 Hz which is 137.77337 kHz but the TS850 is still >drifting. > >Regards, > Wolf DL4YHF > JO42FD >(thinking about driving towards DF0WD but much tooo cold outside) > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7376 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 23:10:48 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 23:10:48 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 21368 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Feb 2003 23:10:48 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 23:10:46 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ldLS-0008CG-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:09:42 +0000 Received: from [64.12.136.8] (helo=imo-m05.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ldLM-0008C6-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:09:36 +0000 Received: from DL4YHF@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id l.39.343e09cc (17377) for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 18:08:52 -0500 (EST) From: DL4YHF@aol.com Message-ID: <39.343e09cc.2b856883@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 18:08:51 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 for Windows XP sub 50 Subject: LF: CT1DRP as seen at DL4YHF Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010900070803070807000608" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.8 required=6.0tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SEE_FOR_YOURSELF,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: ** X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010900070803070807000608 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Brian and group,

Yes, it's you. At the moment, there is the possiblility to compare the signals.. see for yourself. The drift is on this side.

Good night + good luck to all,

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V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 22:53:10 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ld4n-00083N-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:52:29 +0000 Received: from [64.12.136.163] (helo=imo-m08.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ld4m-00083E-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:52:28 +0000 Received: from DL4YHF@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id l.1a0.11226fc2 (30970) for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:51:54 -0500 (EST) From: DL4YHF@aol.com Message-ID: <1a0.11226fc2.2b85648a@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:51:54 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 for Windows XP sub 50 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Frequency accuracy Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=6.0tests=MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: ** X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit For heaven's sake, Brian, how many kilowatts are you feeding into the antenna ?

I can copy your signal with my "home"-equipment, which is an untuned wire plugged into the TS850, lots of local noise. A long dot at 22:40 UTC and some longer dash now (22:50).

Or who is it ? One of my next-door-LF-neighbours ??

Waterfall reads 653.37 Hz which is 137.77337 kHz but the TS850 is still drifting.

Regards,
 Wolf DL4YHF
 JO42FD
(thinking about driving towards DF0WD but much tooo cold outside)



From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14003 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 22:44:40 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 22:44:40 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 11456 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 22:44:39 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 22:44:38 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lcwT-0007sG-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:43:53 +0000 Received: from [64.12.136.5] (helo=imo-m02.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lcwT-0007rf-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:43:53 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id l.1c8.553f6c6 (4418) for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:43:18 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <1c8.553f6c6.2b856286@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:43:18 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 10607 Subject: LF: 137.773 on 19/20th Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.5 required=6.0tests=DEAR_SOMEBODY,MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,NO_REAL_NAME, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: ** X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Argo-gazers,

since 21:35, Brian is visible on 137773.40Hz in QRSS-60; frequency calibration verified with <10mHz error for Loran Lessay-Sylt 137772.9906. If all goes well I'll join in later tonight on 137773.30 / 773.20 DFCW, 100s/33s on/off.

73 de Markus, DF6NM

Steve wrote on www.w3eee.com:
> Stations 10dB down or even quieter would still have been readily visible and copiable;
> from what I know of Laurie's setup, that implies those with *40 milliWatts e.r.p.* or
> even less.


From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3413 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 22:41:56 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 22:41:56 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 23084 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Feb 2003 22:41:45 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 22:41:45 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lctY-0007q2-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:40:52 +0000 Received: from [24.153.64.2] (helo=smtp.comcast.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lctY-0007ps-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:40:52 +0000 Received: from Charlie_Drake (pcp01445904pcs.lebnon01.pa.comcast.net [68.83.65.211]) by mtaout07.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.09 (built Jan 7 2003)) with SMTP id <0HAK00F71UX79C@mtaout07.icomcast.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:39:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:39:09 -0500 From: "Steve Dove" In-reply-to: <5.2.0.9.2.20030219220155.00b2dec0@pop.sapo.pt> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: Organization: d s p MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Opera 6.04 build 1135 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Frequency accuracy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.8 required=6.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,INVALID_MSGID,IN_REP_TO,NOSPAM_INC, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false You've been got. Thought it was you! Well done! 2/19/2003 5:03:42 PM, Brian Rogerson wrote: >Hi All > >I'm transmitting at the moment and hope that is on 137773.4Hz > >Brian CT1DRP > > > > > >At 21:48 19/02/2003, you wrote: >>Hi Peter, >> >>John's right. My display was 0.05Hz (egads!) low last night. The Loran >>line (top one on my display) should be sitting at '774.03. >> >> All the best, >> >> Steve >> >> >>2/19/2003 4:44:51 PM, "John Andrews" wrote: >> >> >Peter, >> > >> >The Loran line that shows at 774.03 on my screen shots is at its calculated >> >frequency, so the other readings from those shots should be pretty exact. >> > >> >John Andrews >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19044 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 22:37:50 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 22:37:50 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 18985 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Feb 2003 22:37:50 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 22:37:50 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lcpk-0007ly-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:36:56 +0000 Received: from [24.153.64.2] (helo=smtp.comcast.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lcpj-0007lo-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:36:55 +0000 Received: from Charlie_Drake (pcp01445904pcs.lebnon01.pa.comcast.net [68.83.65.211]) by mtaout04.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.09 (built Jan 7 2003)) with SMTP id <0HAK000K2USOT7@mtaout04.icomcast.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:36:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:36:17 -0500 From: "Steve Dove" In-reply-to: To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: Organization: d s p MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Opera 6.04 build 1135 X-Priority: 3 Subject: LF: Tonight on 773 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=6.0tests=INVALID_MSGID,IN_REP_TO,NOSPAM_INC,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Greetings, Set the live 'Argo' thingy going again on w3eee.com. Still daylight here and there's someone there already on '733.42ish. Brian? Cheers, Steve . . . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6077 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 22:25:00 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 22:25:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 1743 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Feb 2003 22:25:00 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 22:25:00 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lccv-0007h0-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:23:41 +0000 Received: from [130.244.199.129] (helo=fep01-svc.swip.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lccu-0007gr-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:23:40 +0000 Received: from oemcomputer ([213.101.40.228]) by fep01-svc.swip.net with SMTP id <20030219222340.FREV3924.fep01-svc.swip.net@oemcomputer> for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:23:40 +0100 Message-ID: <001501c2d865$cba54e20$e42865d5@oemcomputer> From: "Johan Bodin" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <007001c2d860$227ef1c0$09dc9384@jka> <5.2.0.9.2.20030219220155.00b2dec0@pop.sapo.pt> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:25:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Frequency accuracy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.9 required=6.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Brian CT1DRP wrote: > I'm transmitting at the moment and hope that is on 137773.4Hz It is. 73 Johan SM6LKM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30545 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 22:06:37 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 22:06:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 19954 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Feb 2003 22:06:26 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 22:06:26 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lcKN-0007Yk-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:04:31 +0000 Received: from [194.65.79.76] (helo=sapo.pt) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lcKN-0007Yb-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:04:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 6415 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 22:04:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sapo.pt) (194.65.79.72) by relay2.ptm.pt with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 22:04:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 8595 invoked by uid 0); 19 Feb 2003 22:04:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO slave-5.sapo.pt) (brian_@sapo.pt@[213.13.224.42]) (envelope-sender ) by sapo.pt (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 19 Feb 2003 22:04:29 -0000 Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20030219220155.00b2dec0@pop.sapo.pt> X-Sender: brian_@sapo.pt@pop.sapo.pt X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:03:42 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Brian Rogerson" In-reply-to: References: <007001c2d860$227ef1c0$09dc9384@jka> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Frequency accuracy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=6.0tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi All I'm transmitting at the moment and hope that is on 137773.4Hz Brian CT1DRP At 21:48 19/02/2003, you wrote: >Hi Peter, > >John's right. My display was 0.05Hz (egads!) low last night. The Loran >line (top one on my display) should be sitting at '774.03. > > All the best, > > Steve > > >2/19/2003 4:44:51 PM, "John Andrews" wrote: > > >Peter, > > > >The Loran line that shows at 774.03 on my screen shots is at its calculated > >frequency, so the other readings from those shots should be pretty exact. > > > >John Andrews > > > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 567 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 21:50:37 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 21:50:37 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 10931 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 21:50:39 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 21:50:39 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lc5k-0007RJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:49:24 +0000 Received: from [24.153.64.2] (helo=smtp.comcast.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lc5k-0007RA-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:49:24 +0000 Received: from Charlie_Drake (pcp01445904pcs.lebnon01.pa.comcast.net [68.83.65.211]) by mtaout02.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.09 (built Jan 7 2003)) with SMTP id <0HAK00HM5SLHHB@mtaout02.icomcast.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:48:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:48:53 -0500 From: "Steve Dove" In-reply-to: <007001c2d860$227ef1c0$09dc9384@jka> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: Organization: d s p MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Opera 6.04 build 1135 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Frequency accuracy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.8 required=6.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,INVALID_MSGID,IN_REP_TO,NOSPAM_INC, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Peter, John's right. My display was 0.05Hz (egads!) low last night. The Loran line (top one on my display) should be sitting at '774.03. All the best, Steve 2/19/2003 4:44:51 PM, "John Andrews" wrote: >Peter, > >The Loran line that shows at 774.03 on my screen shots is at its calculated >frequency, so the other readings from those shots should be pretty exact. > >John Andrews > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8528 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 21:36:43 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 21:36:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 17204 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Feb 2003 21:36:43 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 21:36:43 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lbsa-0007L6-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:35:48 +0000 Received: from [207.155.198.79] (helo=darius.concentric.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lbsZ-0007Kx-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:35:47 +0000 Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman.concentric.net [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net [Concentric SMTP Routing 1.0] id h1JLZiw06691 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:35:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from jka ([208.37.242.34]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id QAA24798; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:35:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <007001c2d860$227ef1c0$09dc9384@jka> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.2.0.9.2.20030219164801.00b27df0@pop.sapo.pt> <005e01c2d83e$bc24de60$09dc9384@jka> <005a01c2d85c$6c14f9a0$28ca28c3@erica> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:44:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Frequency accuracy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Peter, The Loran line that shows at 774.03 on my screen shots is at its calculated frequency, so the other readings from those shots should be pretty exact. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27772 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 21:16:40 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 21:16:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 15103 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 21:16:39 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 21:16:38 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lbYB-0007EI-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:14:43 +0000 Received: from [212.135.6.14] (helo=smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lbYA-0007E9-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:14:42 +0000 Received: from tnt-3-40.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.202.40] helo=erica) by smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18lbY8-000OaR-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:14:41 +0000 Message-ID: <005a01c2d85c$6c14f9a0$28ca28c3@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.2.0.9.2.20030219164801.00b27df0@pop.sapo.pt> <005e01c2d83e$bc24de60$09dc9384@jka> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:17:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Frequency accuracy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Brian Rogerson said > > Hi Alan, I transmitted for a short period this morning on 137774 or > thereabouts > > using my original DDSVFO if that sheds any light. 73, Brian > John Andrews, W1TAG said. > Never having attempted integral calculus on an 8-bit microcontroller, how > did you train that DDS to perform that feat? Or do you just have a little > warm-up problem? > http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/files/aqcldo2.jpg I switched my DDS off once at the end of a transmission, then switched it back on again because conditions were better than I thought. It took half an hour for it to settle down, exhibiting just over one Hz drift diring the warm up period. I leave it switched on all the time now. I do get some long term drift because the DDS unit is located in the outside shack and it gets rather cold there - about -1deg C at the moment. I am not sure of my exact frequency. My DDS readout for this T/A and KL stuff is 137,773 and I thought my frequency was actually 137,773.5. I had calibrated Argo on 60kHz with Rugby but the offset does not seem constant when the receiver frequency is changed. >From W3EEE's Argo capture my frequency appears to be 137,772.9, about 1Hz lower than Laurie. I had a slow 0.1Hz drift low due to the shack warming up before the signals disappeared. So, using the W3EEE display as a reference, I will be transmitting on 137.773 from say 0500z tomorrow morning. I will cut down the inter-character gaps and send my complete call. Received a very interesting 3D display of Laurie's and my transmission. This shows Laurie's signal a couple of dB up on mine. Regards, Peter, G3LDO e-mail Web > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5130 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 17:53:26 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 17:53:26 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 26132 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 17:53:27 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 17:53:27 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lYOA-0006Sh-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:52:10 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.140] (helo=mailman2.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lYO9-0006SY-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:52:09 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman2.ppco.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h1JHq80d008199 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:52:08 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:52:06 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05105 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:52:05 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:52:04 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 02/19/2003 11:52:06 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: 137.77 on 18/19th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear all - A disappointing nights reception here in Alaska but congrats to those who made something of it. Conditions from midnight till 0800Z were the worst Ive seen for a number of weeks - DCF39 rarely made audible thru the period and peaked above noise around 0400z for about ten mins again. Not a glimmer... I was chatting with Brian CT1DRP (on Echolink on the keys from around 0630) but taking a turn round the dial indicated poor Eu reception and even North Scandinavia to be way down, DCF39 appeared above noise at 0700-0740. For the first time I had strong static crashes earlier from 0000z - this may indicate a strong path to somewhere but not Eu. As of this morning 1500Z I can see the data sig but not "hear it", only Russian stations are audible on bcast (180Khz). Looking at http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/data.fcgi for this area doesnt give me many clues except higher FoF2 figures over the past days. I checked for Mitches beacon thru the night using Argo but reviewing the shots this morning shows no trace....this path will work soon Im sure but is still around 4800Kms or so away The Argo "retransmission" of 137/139Khz via Echolink is proving remote received data is more accurate than I thought possible. Using a remote PC Inet connections loaded with ARGO things don't look a whole lot different remotely on the QRSS30/60 settings than from home. Setting ARGO on 1830Hz (for 138.83Khz) I could see DCF39 within 0.1/2Hz at v weak signal levels.....now this be a one off, the Internet not being a particularly time/freq stable environment but from 1st day testing it looks promising. I continue to relay "noiz" via Echolink, If Im in the shack I can type a message back.... - The servers are being kind to me and haven't times me out either. What is an eye opener for some people is the amount of lines and Switch mode power supply squiggles visible on full bandwidths. Its not as bad as it looks, honest, and the use of the NB, ATT, AGC and ARGO can take me right down between the interference lines. Ill have some calibrated levels on received signals later this evening. Thanks to Bob K3DJC for the tests. Laurence KL1X -4C overcast From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8546 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 17:41:11 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 17:41:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 14440 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 17:41:09 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 17:41:09 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lY9B-0006LB-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:36:41 +0000 Received: from [207.155.198.79] (helo=darius.concentric.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lY9A-0006L2-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:36:40 +0000 Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman.concentric.net [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net [Concentric SMTP Routing 1.0] id h1JHabw19027 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:36:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from jka ([208.37.242.34]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id MAA00784; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:36:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <005e01c2d83e$bc24de60$09dc9384@jka> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.2.0.9.2.20030219164801.00b27df0@pop.sapo.pt> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:45:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: 137.77 on 18/19th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Brian, > Hi Alan, I transmitted for a short period this morning on 137774 or thereabouts > using my original DDSVFO if that sheds any light. 73, Brian Never having attempted integral calculus on an 8-bit microcontroller, how did you train that DDS to perform that feat? Or do you just have a little warm-up problem? http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/files/aqcldo2.jpg John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29779 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 16:52:12 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 16:52:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 8003 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 16:52:13 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 16:52:13 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lXR5-00065s-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:51:07 +0000 Received: from [194.65.79.75] (helo=sapo.pt) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lXR5-00065j-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:51:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 5709 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 16:50:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sapo.pt) (194.65.79.73) by relay1.ptm.pt with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 16:50:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 10479 invoked by uid 0); 19 Feb 2003 16:50:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO slave-5.sapo.pt) (brian_@sapo.pt@[213.13.224.42]) (envelope-sender ) by sapo.pt (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 19 Feb 2003 16:50:51 -0000 Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20030219164801.00b27df0@pop.sapo.pt> X-Sender: brian_@sapo.pt@pop.sapo.pt X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:50:07 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Alan.Melia@btinternet.com From: "Brian Rogerson" In-reply-to: <002d01c2d833$0bb15d20$6507a8c0@Main> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: 137.77 on 18/19th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=6.0tests=IN_REP_TO,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Alan, I transmitted for a short period this morning on 137774 or thereabouts using my original DDSVFO if that sheds any light. 73, Brian At 16:22 19/02/2003, you wrote: >Hi John ,Denis and Steve, I have just received a 3D spectrogram from Vaino >OH2LX, which covers 0702 to 0858z and does not show any other signal of any >size in that frequency range out of Europe. So so "alien" may not be so >alien...??? > >Conditions were certainly not as good as we have seen, which as you say is a >good omen for other stations at greater distance ....and they do seem to be >improving !! > >Cheers de Alan G3NYK >alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20899 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 16:23:50 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 16:23:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 15623 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Feb 2003 16:23:50 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 16:23:50 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lWz7-0005uu-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:22:13 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.93] (helo=rhenium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lWz7-0005ul-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:22:13 +0000 Received: from host213-122-165-151.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.165.151] helo=Main) by rhenium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18lWz6-0002TE-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:22:12 +0000 Message-ID: <002d01c2d833$0bb15d20$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:22:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 137.77 on 18/19th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi John ,Denis and Steve, I have just received a 3D spectrogram from Vaino OH2LX, which covers 0702 to 0858z and does not show any other signal of any size in that frequency range out of Europe. So so "alien" may not be so alien...??? Conditions were certainly not as good as we have seen, which as you say is a good omen for other stations at greater distance ....and they do seem to be improving !! Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4555 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 15:21:49 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 15:21:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 18737 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 15:21:37 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 15:21:37 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lW0a-0005Ym-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:19:40 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.147] (helo=einsteinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lW0a-0005Yd-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:19:40 +0000 Received: from host213-122-246-14.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.246.14] helo=j1r9b7) by einsteinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18lW0Y-0001b0-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:19:38 +0000 Message-ID: <001001c2d827$cf400a40$0ef67ad5@j1r9b7> From: "Derek Atter" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000f01c2d668$5da60760$fbc428c3@erica> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:00:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: IK5ZPV/ G3GR0 PSK31 14Mhz [Off Subject] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_05_08,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello Valerio, Many thanks for your call on PSK31 mode yesterday on 14Mhz. I had just completed my 1st QSO on PSK31 with a local station who was helping me to configure the system via a 2m talk-back link. The14Mhz band was closing and although you were a good signal when you first called, you then faded in QSB right down into the noise after your second transmission. I think that you said that it was also only your 3rd QSO on PSK31. I have not been QRV on 136Khz or the HF bands until recently due to storm damage to my antenna system - a large tree holding up one end of my 60m inverted L antenna fell down in the storm also taking down the mast holding the other end of the antenna with it because the hard-drawn copper antenna wire did not break under the strain. The antenna sytem has now been re-built and I am active again. Hope to see you soon again on HF or 136Khz. Vy 73 de Derek Atter G3GRO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32080 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 15:21:27 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 15:21:27 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 18552 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 15:21:25 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 15:21:25 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lW0s-0005Yy-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:19:58 +0000 Received: from [24.153.64.2] (helo=smtp.comcast.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lW0r-0005Yc-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:19:58 +0000 Received: from Charlie_Drake (pcp01445904pcs.lebnon01.pa.comcast.net [68.83.65.211]) by mtaout04.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.09 (built Jan 7 2003)) with SMTP id <0HAK00K14AK8K5@mtaout04.icomcast.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 10:19:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 10:16:50 -0500 From: "Steve Dove" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: Organization: d s p MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Opera 6.04 build 1135 X-Priority: 3 Subject: LF: 'aqc, 'ldo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=6.0tests=INVALID_MSGID,NOSPAM_INC,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Greetings, Plot and story at w3eee.com. Congratulations, both, on killer signals here on the boring old well-travelled transatlantic path. Hope Lawrence caught something, too. Also hopefully this might ignite interest in those with less ERP to give it a shot, and those over here who think they can't 'see' well enough to give a look as well. There was a lot of margin. Like John and Denis, I caught the 'Alien from Planet Zorg' too. Anyone going to own up? 73, Steve . . . From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31261 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 14:16:44 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 14:16:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 6536 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Feb 2003 14:16:44 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 14:16:44 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lV0h-0005GV-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:15:43 +0000 Received: from [195.92.195.172] (helo=cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lV0h-0005GM-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:15:43 +0000 Received: from modem-76.araman.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.118.204] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18lV0g-00069N-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:15:43 +0000 Message-ID: <001501c2d822$e16d0060$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:24:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re.Eu-Alaska Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi All, Many thanks for the reports,Steve John and Dennis, Nice to have some new ears over there Dennis. Thanks Alan for the prop.reports,as it turned out things were not as good as I had hoped, never mind if you don't try you won't succeed. 73 Laurie. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7886 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 13:14:07 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 13:14:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 3919 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Feb 2003 13:14:06 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 13:14:06 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lU2L-0004wl-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:13:21 +0000 Received: from [204.127.198.39] (helo=rwcrmhc53.attbi.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lU2K-0004wb-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:13:20 +0000 Received: from ham1 (c-24-131-168-203.mw.client2.attbi.com[24.131.168.203]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53) with SMTP id <2003021913124805300h51fpe>; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:12:49 +0000 Message-ID: <003a01c2d818$9beb50a0$cba88318@ne2.client2.attbi.com> From: "Denis Cote" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <29BDD4F529FCD311B631009027357C4E07F4ECD1@btss103a.swh.sk> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:12:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: RE: Propagation 18/19th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I'll keep an ear and eye out for you. Denis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gasparik Richard" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:00 AM Subject: LF: RE: Propagation 18/19th > Hi John, Denis and all LF-ers... > > I'll try also some T/A tests on 137.774kHz tonight. Starting 0200Z untill > 0600Z (local sunrise is 0551Z). Mode QRSS60 (dash:dot ratio=2). If it's > possible, look for my signal. Good luck and see you... > > Enjoy LF... > > 73 de Rich OM2TW > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Melia [mailto:Alan.Melia@btinternet.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:07 PM > To: LF-Group > Subject: LF: Propagation 18/19th > > > Hi all, it is interesting that is a broad agreement between Brian's plots of > DCF39 and Steve's last night. Both show considerable enhancement between > 0430z and 0630z over what we have seen in recent weeks. As Brian's plot (my > propagation pages) shows the levels in CT are only just peaking the > "benchmark" average level, where Steve's longer distance results show a > rather better result. It is rewarding to see that Laurie did manage to pass > a few elements to Lawrence KL1X in Anchorage even under those conditions. I > think we want a few days of quiet geomagnetic conditions to reach the best > conditions. The Kp index have been hovering in the 3 to 4 range almost daily > recently. This seems to keep the D-layer just a little bit too active for > our purposes. > > Well done all, > Cheers de ALan G3NYK > alan.melia@btinternet.com > http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24450 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 13:02:13 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 13:02:13 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 5963 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Feb 2003 13:02:12 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 13:02:10 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lTqW-0004qk-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:01:08 +0000 Received: from [192.108.125.37] (helo=ns3.swh.sk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lTqU-0004qb-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:01:06 +0000 Received: from hermes.sbs.sk (midas.swh.sk [192.108.125.51]) by ns3.swh.sk (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h1JD11111144 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:01:01 +0100 Received: from btss101a.swh.sk (btss.swh.sk [139.24.136.15]) by hermes.sbs.sk (8.12.6/8.12.6/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h1JCxwBa019317 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:59:58 +0100 Received: by btss.swh.sk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:00:56 +0100 Message-ID: <29BDD4F529FCD311B631009027357C4E07F4ECD1@btss103a.swh.sk> From: "Gasparik Richard" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:00:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Subject: LF: RE: Propagation 18/19th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=6.0tests=EXCHANGE_SERVER,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi John, Denis and all LF-ers... I'll try also some T/A tests on 137.774kHz tonight. Starting 0200Z untill 0600Z (local sunrise is 0551Z). Mode QRSS60 (dash:dot ratio=2). If it's possible, look for my signal. Good luck and see you... Enjoy LF... 73 de Rich OM2TW -----Original Message----- From: Alan Melia [mailto:Alan.Melia@btinternet.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:07 PM To: LF-Group Subject: LF: Propagation 18/19th Hi all, it is interesting that is a broad agreement between Brian's plots of DCF39 and Steve's last night. Both show considerable enhancement between 0430z and 0630z over what we have seen in recent weeks. As Brian's plot (my propagation pages) shows the levels in CT are only just peaking the "benchmark" average level, where Steve's longer distance results show a rather better result. It is rewarding to see that Laurie did manage to pass a few elements to Lawrence KL1X in Anchorage even under those conditions. I think we want a few days of quiet geomagnetic conditions to reach the best conditions. The Kp index have been hovering in the 3 to 4 range almost daily recently. This seems to keep the D-layer just a little bit too active for our purposes. Well done all, Cheers de ALan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20109 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 12:47:18 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 12:47:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 25750 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Feb 2003 12:47:18 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 12:47:18 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lTcj-0004fg-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:46:53 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.15] (helo=mx05.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lTcj-0004fL-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:46:53 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by mx05.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 73458114 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 07:46:21 -0500 Message-ID: <003401c2d815$01ecbc80$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000e01c2d812$3e1d1720$cba88318@ne2.client2.attbi.com> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:47:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: G3AQC Capture in Swansea, MA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Denis, Think of all the extra signal I could have had if you weren't listening to my east! Congratulations! Nice to have some more ears on this side. Dex was evidently too lazy to retune his loop from 185 last night. This'll teach him. John Andrews From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30444 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 12:43:47 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 12:43:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 21946 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Feb 2003 12:43:47 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 12:43:47 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lTZ3-0004cJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:43:05 +0000 Received: from [204.127.198.39] (helo=rwcrmhc53.attbi.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lTZ2-0004bu-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:43:05 +0000 Received: from ham1 (c-24-131-168-203.mw.client2.attbi.com[24.131.168.203]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53) with SMTP id <2003021912421605300i65ope>; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:42:16 +0000 Message-ID: <004701c2d814$570e5da0$cba88318@ne2.client2.attbi.com> From: "Denis Cote" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <438EBNIVU1XICVRY163IPN1XUOXS.3e530b3a@Charlie_Drake> <002201c2d80f$e5836da0$0500a8c0@charter.net> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 07:42:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Laurie, Peter . . . Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Funny John, I got the same here. Denis ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Andrews" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:10 AM Subject: LF: Re: Laurie, Peter . . . > Laurie, Peter, et al, > > I really hope that I didn't extract too much signal from either of you this > morning, and that some was left for the trip to Alaska. I only wish that I > hadn't left the Argo gain set so high! > > I had Laurie starting around 0420 with a signal drifting down from 137.774 > and resting nicely south of a strong Loran line I have at that frequency. He > was visible continuously after that, with pieces showing all the way to > 0845. Peter appears to have caught more sleep, with the first signal at > 0515, and the last around 0820. Again, he was continuously visible during > that time. > > Here's a representative sample: > 6:20 AM: http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/files/aqcldo1.jpg > Note that copy was pretty much like this through the whole period. > > Here's something truly strange. Don't know if someone was attempting to get > in the middle, or this was some local interference: > http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/files/aqcldo2.jpg > > I hope you made it farther west! > > John Andrews, W1TAG > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26239 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 12:39:28 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 12:39:28 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 24387 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 12:39:27 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 12:39:27 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lTUs-0004Y8-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:38:46 +0000 Received: from [192.108.125.37] (helo=ns3.swh.sk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lTUq-0004Xy-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:38:45 +0000 Received: from hermes.sbs.sk (midas.swh.sk [192.108.125.51]) by ns3.swh.sk (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h1JCcg109702 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:38:42 +0100 Received: from btss101a.swh.sk (btss.swh.sk [139.24.136.15]) by hermes.sbs.sk (8.12.6/8.12.6/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h1JCbdhx017100 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:37:39 +0100 Received: by btss.swh.sk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:38:37 +0100 Message-ID: <29BDD4F529FCD311B631009027357C4E07F4ECD0@btss103a.swh.sk> From: "Gasparik Richard" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:38:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Subject: LF: RE: G3AQC Capture in Swansea, MA Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=6.0tests=EXCHANGE_SERVER,HTML_FONT_COLOR_BLUE,MIME_NULL_BLOCK, SPAM_PHRASE_05_08version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
That's G3LDO.
 
73 de Rich OM2TW
-----Original Message-----
From: Denis Cote [mailto:w1wv@attbi.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 1:27 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; lowfer@mailman.qth.net
Subject: LF: G3AQC Capture in Swansea, MA

Laurie,
 
Your propagation forecast was right on, you we're booming in here at 0700 GMT! Your call stands out nicely in the screen capture posted on my webpage. I don't know who the other station is below you with the call 'DLO' being repeated. There was some minor drifting in earlier captures. Your signal was visible from 0508 to 0908 GMT.
 
RX setup here is an ICOM IC-R75A, preamp, and 23 turn x 7' dia hexagonal loop, remote tuned.
 
 
For the record, you are my furthest DX reception to date.
 
Thanks es 73,
Denis P. Cote
W1WV
Swansea, MA
FN 41kr
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21519 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 12:36:07 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 12:36:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 25076 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 12:36:08 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 12:36:08 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lTR0-0004Tk-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:34:46 +0000 Received: from [204.127.202.63] (helo=sccrmhc03.attbi.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lTQz-0004TB-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:34:46 +0000 Received: from ham1 (c-24-131-168-203.mw.client2.attbi.com[24.131.168.203]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03) with SMTP id <2003021912341300300hnifre>; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:34:13 +0000 Message-ID: <002101c2d813$3773a820$cba88318@ne2.client2.attbi.com> From: "Denis Cote" To: lowfer@mailman.qth.net, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 07:34:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: LDO in with G3AQC Capture, Swansea, MA Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=6.0tests=MAILTO_LINK,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02,SUPERLONG_LINE,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
After looking at the capture again, I realize now that the signal below Laurie is Peter, G3LDO sending 'LDO'. Kudos to both of you guys for some great signals.
 
Denis P. Cote
W1WV
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Denis Cote
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:27 AM
Subject: G3AQC Capture in Swansea, MA

Laurie,
 
Your propagation forecast was right on, you we're booming in here at 0700 GMT! Your call stands out nicely in the screen capture posted on my webpage. I don't know who the other station is below you with the call 'DLO' being repeated. There was some minor drifting in earlier captures. Your signal was visible from 0508 to 0908 GMT.
 
RX setup here is an ICOM IC-R75A, preamp, and 23 turn x 7' dia hexagonal loop, remote tuned.
 
 
For the record, you are my furthest DX reception to date.
 
Thanks es 73,
Denis P. Cote
W1WV
Swansea, MA
FN 41kr
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10012 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 12:29:00 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 12:29:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 22733 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Feb 2003 12:29:00 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 12:29:00 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lTKG-0004PZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:27:48 +0000 Received: from [204.127.202.63] (helo=sccrmhc03.attbi.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lTKG-0004PJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:27:48 +0000 Received: from ham1 (c-24-131-168-203.mw.client2.attbi.com[24.131.168.203]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03) with SMTP id <2003021912271500300fjl4ae>; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:27:15 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01c2d812$3e1d1720$cba88318@ne2.client2.attbi.com> From: "Denis Cote" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, lowfer@mailman.qth.net Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 07:27:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: G3AQC Capture in Swansea, MA Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_02_03,SUPERLONG_LINE,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Laurie,
 
Your propagation forecast was right on, you we're booming in here at 0700 GMT! Your call stands out nicely in the screen capture posted on my webpage. I don't know who the other station is below you with the call 'DLO' being repeated. There was some minor drifting in earlier captures. Your signal was visible from 0508 to 0908 GMT.
 
RX setup here is an ICOM IC-R75A, preamp, and 23 turn x 7' dia hexagonal loop, remote tuned.
 
 
For the record, you are my furthest DX reception to date.
 
Thanks es 73,
Denis P. Cote
W1WV
Swansea, MA
FN 41kr
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5888 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 12:11:39 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 12:11:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 17005 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Feb 2003 12:11:38 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 12:11:38 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lT3O-0004Ir-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:10:22 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.20] (helo=dc-mx10.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lT3J-0004Id-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:10:17 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx10.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 73396795 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 07:09:46 -0500 Message-ID: <002201c2d80f$e5836da0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <438EBNIVU1XICVRY163IPN1XUOXS.3e530b3a@Charlie_Drake> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:10:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Laurie, Peter . . . Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Laurie, Peter, et al, I really hope that I didn't extract too much signal from either of you this morning, and that some was left for the trip to Alaska. I only wish that I hadn't left the Argo gain set so high! I had Laurie starting around 0420 with a signal drifting down from 137.774 and resting nicely south of a strong Loran line I have at that frequency. He was visible continuously after that, with pieces showing all the way to 0845. Peter appears to have caught more sleep, with the first signal at 0515, and the last around 0820. Again, he was continuously visible during that time. Here's a representative sample: 6:20 AM: http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/files/aqcldo1.jpg Note that copy was pretty much like this through the whole period. Here's something truly strange. Don't know if someone was attempting to get in the middle, or this was some local interference: http://webpages.charter.net/w1tag/files/aqcldo2.jpg I hope you made it farther west! John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11038 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 11:09:04 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 11:09:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 12984 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 11:09:05 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 11:09:05 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lS4t-0003xE-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:07:51 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.93] (helo=rhenium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lS4s-0003x5-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:07:50 +0000 Received: from dial81-135-71-64.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.135.71.64] helo=Main) by rhenium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18lS4r-0003gs-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:07:50 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c2d807$1c5e2da0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:07:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Propagation 18/19th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, it is interesting that is a broad agreement between Brian's plots of DCF39 and Steve's last night. Both show considerable enhancement between 0430z and 0630z over what we have seen in recent weeks. As Brian's plot (my propagation pages) shows the levels in CT are only just peaking the "benchmark" average level, where Steve's longer distance results show a rather better result. It is rewarding to see that Laurie did manage to pass a few elements to Lawrence KL1X in Anchorage even under those conditions. I think we want a few days of quiet geomagnetic conditions to reach the best conditions. The Kp index have been hovering in the 3 to 4 range almost daily recently. This seems to keep the D-layer just a little bit too active for our purposes. Well done all, Cheers de ALan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17183 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 08:51:14 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 08:51:14 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 29243 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Feb 2003 08:51:04 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 08:51:04 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lPs1-0003MI-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:46:25 +0000 Received: from [212.35.226.183] (helo=k2.pncl.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lPs0-0003M9-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:46:25 +0000 Received: from k7t.pncl.co.uk (44.235.35.212.in-addr.arpa.ip-pool.cix.co.uk [212.35.235.44]) by k2.pncl.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h1J8kM6A015469 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:46:23 GMT Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030219084610.00a652e0@mail.pncl.co.uk> X-Sender: blanch@mail.pncl.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:46:24 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Walter Blanchard" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: Admiralty Handbook Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090508060404030902090202" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090508060404030902090202 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Anybody wanting the "Admiralty Handbook of Wireless Telegraphy" 1938, Vols 1 or 2 contact Gordon Bussey 0208 660 2240. 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=6.0tests=INVALID_MSGID,NOSPAM_INC,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false . . . if either of you just sent a couple of dashes, you are loud here. Since DCF seems good and QRN is quiet, I'm going to leave an 'Argo' on you running live all night at w3eee.com. Cheers, Steve p.s. It was a 'G' with a missing dit. Hi Laurie! From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14889 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 02:06:18 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 02:06:18 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 3257 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Feb 2003 02:06:17 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 02:06:17 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lJbv-0001x2-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 02:05:23 +0000 Received: from [64.136.30.74] (helo=m11.lax.untd.com) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lJbu-0001wr-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 02:05:22 +0000 Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"yokUgcxCbtTP7XLrpefewGNhN6rd5fEboN7LPj8JWPrv+uYxjNrF3A=="> Received: (from riese-k3djc@juno.com) by m11.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id HRCK8GF8; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:03:51 PST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: lowfer@mailman.qth.net Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 17:59:37 -0800 Message-ID: <20030218.180135.416.2.riese-k3djc@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3,5,7,9,11-12 From: riese-k3djc@juno.com Subject: LF: the ARGO ,Echolink connection Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=6.0tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: ** X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi All Just finished up testing with WA3USG recording Mitch at 137.780. Dick and I were attched via Echolink and I ran ARGO and recorded what he was sending. I had to use a Mike as I am having a problem coupling the wave file to both apps. In any event the results look Good . there is a 14 cycle difference which we will follow to see if that will be a constant figure. I have JPGs of the results and can sent them. I just realised the difference in Clock timing,, pleasr disreguard that HAR Bob K3DJC From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12280 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 00:32:49 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 00:32:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 5512 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Feb 2003 00:32:49 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 00:32:49 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lI9i-0001aI-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 00:32:10 +0000 Received: from [212.135.6.11] (helo=smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lI9i-0001a9-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 00:32:10 +0000 Received: from tnt-2-61.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.196.61] helo=erica) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18lI9f-000ApA-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 00:32:09 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c2d7ae$d585eb00$3dc428c3@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000901c2d7a7$0ada8ac0$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 00:34:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Eu-Alaska Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Laurie said > Hi Laurence and all, > Looks like some interesting happenings with DCF39 > also K index down a bit so I will transmit in the morning from 0530- 0730 on > 137,773.7kHz using QRSS 60 . > 2/1 dash/dot ratio.Peter, hope this clear of your freq. I will transmit for the same period. I set the calibration offset of Argo using 60kHz Rugby but I think it is still a bit out at 137kHz. I think I saw you testing a bit earlier on this evening and your frequency on my Argo dial was 137774. Your signal is so strong with me that I can monitor you with everything backed of to monitor my own transmission so I can make sure we don't clash. I make my frequency .5Hz lower than yours so there is no problem. Good DXing! Peter G3LDO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22691 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 00:26:58 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 00:26:58 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 16891 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 00:26:59 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 00:26:59 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lI3p-0001W2-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 00:26:05 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.140] (helo=mailman2.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lI3o-0001Vt-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 00:26:04 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman2.ppco.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h1J0Q20d011826 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:26:03 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:26:01 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA12324 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:26:00 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 15:25:58 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 02/18/2003 06:26:01 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Links and conditions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_01_02version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false You wrote - Hi Laurence, I connected with you at abt 2330UTC and shot the attached spectrum (SpeLab). is that the true spectrum you get out of ur RX ? lot of lines! Regards Uwe/dj8wx >From Laurence - Yes Uwe - Welcome to the sights and sounds of Alaskas' Loran C system spillover! You are seeing the signals from at least (I think) 3 loran masters and slaves. North Pacific 9990 (every 10.0 Hz or so), Gulf Of Alaska 7960 (every 6.3 Hz or so) plus a bit of Russian American 5980 (every 8.4 Hz or so)...Yep its busy and hence why Im up at the top in a hole with not a lot around..... luckily theyre are a lot of spaces, including Mitchs VE3OT's beacon freq. The TS870 in its own right throws a couple of carriers out to which Ive yet to catalogue. It gets busier during the night! 73 ' KL1X From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21465 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2003 23:46:12 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Feb 2003 23:46:12 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 7922 invoked by uid 10001); 18 Feb 2003 23:46:12 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Feb 2003 23:46:11 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lHQO-0001La-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 23:45:20 +0000 Received: from [194.25.134.85] (helo=mailout11.sul.t-online.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lHQN-0001LR-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 23:45:19 +0000 Received: from fwd08.sul.t-online.de by 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multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010107090402050202030003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Laurence J Howell schrieb: ................. > > You should be able to join by clicking onto KL1X via the Echolink server - > up to 9 people theoretically! > .................... > > > Laurence KL1X BP41 > > Hi Laurence, I connected with you at abt 2330UTC and shot the attached spectrum (SpeLab). is that the true spetrum you get out of ur RX ? lot of lines! regards Uwe/dj8wx --------------010107090402050202030003 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="ECHOKL1X.JPG" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="ECHOKL1X.JPG" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEBLAEsAAD/2wBDAAgGBgcGBQgHBwcJCQgKDBQNDAsLDBkSEw8UHRof Hh0aHBwgJC4nICIsIxwcKDcpLDAxNDQ0Hyc5PTgyPC4zNDL/2wBDAQkJCQwLDBgNDRgyIRwh MjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjL/wAAR 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FABRRRQAUUUUAFFFFABRRRQAUUUUAFFFFABRRRQAUUUUAFFFFABRRRQAUUUUAFFFFAH/2Q== --------------010107090402050202030003-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5869 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2003 23:30:12 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Feb 2003 23:30:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 11517 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2003 23:30:11 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Feb 2003 23:30:11 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lHAr-0001EV-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 23:29:17 +0000 Received: from [195.92.193.19] (helo=cmailm3.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lHAq-0001EM-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 23:29:16 +0000 Received: from modem-91.angrod.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.114.91] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailm3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18lHAq-00034N-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 23:29:16 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c2d7a7$0ada8ac0$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 23:37:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Eu-Alaska Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Laurence and all, Looks like some interesting happenings with DCF39 also K index down a bit so I will transmit in the morning from 0530- 0730 on 137,773.7kHz using QRSS 60 . 2/1 dash/dot ratio.Peter, hope this clear of your freq. 73 Laurie. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17648 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2003 22:56:29 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Feb 2003 22:56:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 2793 invoked by uid 10001); 18 Feb 2003 22:56:28 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Feb 2003 22:56:28 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lGeg-00015F-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:56:02 +0000 Received: from [130.244.199.132] (helo=fep04-svc.swip.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lGeg-000156-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:56:02 +0000 Received: from oemcomputer ([213.101.39.220]) by fep04-svc.swip.net with SMTP id <20030218225600.VHCJ24060.fep04-svc.swip.net@oemcomputer> for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 23:56:00 +0100 Message-ID: <000601c2d7a1$261aeb00$dc2765d5@oemcomputer> From: "Johan Bodin" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E52B6F0.7D5FA9B8@att.net> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 23:57:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Fast rise of DCF39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Dexter, a funny "coincidence": http://www.irf.se/mag/ 73 Johan SM6LKM > Just saw a very fast rise in signal strength of DCF39. About 25 db in > 20 minuets. Steve's plot shows this fast rise also. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8978 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2003 22:47:25 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Feb 2003 22:47:25 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 17787 invoked by uid 10001); 18 Feb 2003 22:47:25 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Feb 2003 22:47:25 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lGS4-0000z5-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:43:00 +0000 Received: from [166.82.1.69] (helo=host4.ctc.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lGS3-0000yw-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:42:59 +0000 Received: from att.net ([166.82.181.250]) by host4.ctc.net (InterMail vK.4.03.05.03 201-232-132-103 license 2d687b22c655f23831a2faa19b737467) with ESMTP id <20030218224422.OZWG9454.host4@att.net> for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 17:44:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3E52B6F0.7D5FA9B8@att.net> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:42:56 +0000 From: "Dexter McIntyre" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "RSGB LF" Subject: LF: Fast rise of DCF39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Just saw a very fast rise in signal strength of DCF39. About 25 db in 20 minuets. Steve's plot shows this fast rise also. http://www.w4dex.com/plot/dcf39/dcf39.gif http://www.w3eee.com Dex From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28421 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2003 20:36:15 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Feb 2003 20:36:15 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 8484 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2003 20:36:13 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Feb 2003 20:36:13 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lESO-0000V6-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 20:35:12 +0000 Received: from [64.136.30.74] (helo=m11.lax.untd.com) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lESN-0000Uu-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 20:35:12 +0000 Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"yokUgcxCbtTP7XLrpefewGNhN6rd5fEbZPDYD9C0+uPM+BZc5ET8wA=="> Received: (from riese-k3djc@juno.com) by m11.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id HRBZCEHX; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 12:33:57 PST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 12:33:35 -0800 Message-ID: <20030218.123335.196.0.riese-k3djc@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3,8,10-16,18-87 From: riese-k3djc@juno.com Subject: Re: LF: Links and conditions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=6.0tests=NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Interesting Laurence I connected with you at 1500 local EST. With the sound card in use I was unablr to quickly shift to the correct audio input and was using my EchoLink mike and watched as you tuned around the band. I was in Full band mode but looked like you were using 5/600 hz as the offset and was able to copy WWVH at 60 Khz. That was audio coupled through the mike and had good copy . This may be a promising method to allow people to see their signal at DX distance. It was very interesting to look as you were tuning around nice quiet location you have Bob K3DJC On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 09:05:53 -0900 "Laurence J Howell" writes: > > European overnight signals were mixed with fast and deep QSB - DCF39 > peaked > at 0400Z for about 30 minutes (!) at S6 then dived into the noise by > 0520Z, > not recovering by European dawn. Southern LF Bcast stations were > very > poor, and even the Northern Norwegian on 152/180Khz were down with > fast QSB > (say 1 second period S9 to S3 type) > > The data sig beacon DCF39 this morning 1500-1600Z is "seeable on > Argo " > but not "audible by ear". > > The feedback on Argo from Fabian et al is more than true. QOS of the > signal > is probably not defined in phase/jitter or freq and probably > nothing like > needed to fully utilize ARGO on the higher QRSS settings, but, > being one > to try anything Ive connected the output of the 870 to Echolink and > am in > conference with myself as KL1X - > > You should be able to join by clicking onto KL1X via the Echolink > server - > up to 9 people theoretically! > > So.the audio coming out of the speaker ...137.0 =0hz 138.0 = > 1Khz and > DCF38 will be heard as a 1.83 Khz tone (thats if Echolink/board > passes > 1.83Khz) - if nothing else if you can hear the data sig you know the > path > is somewhat open. This is truly a walk in the shack and out of the > door > test this morning - I dont know whether the remote echolink server > will > time me out eventually, and I havent had time to plug in a sig genny > and > see what really comes back freq/phase wise - I used Echoaudio test > site > and confirmed the audio was coming back (as has Martin G4FKK - > thanks) > > The antennae is connected and Ill keep echolink up till either Im > working > on the system (people up the tower today sometime), but will try to > leave > Echolink link up with a message of whats happening at the "connect > screen". > > I added another loading wire to the antennae yesterday afternoon > and > evening/night in a snow storm. The Antennae is now a 2 wire (6 ft > separation using spreaders) Inverted U with 90 ft verticals at each > end and > about a 50 meter "top" - the second wire reduced the inductance > required > further and probably a bit of loss (maybe). If all was correct Ive > added > about 0.5-0.8 dB on s/n on DCF39. - every little helps. > > > Laurence KL1X BP41 > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17460 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2003 19:02:57 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Feb 2003 19:02:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 28458 invoked by uid 10001); 18 Feb 2003 19:02:57 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Feb 2003 19:02:57 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lCzY-00007v-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 19:01:20 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.46] (helo=mta6-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lCzY-00007m-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 19:01:20 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.229.125]) by mta6-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030218190119.XJEJ21179.mta6-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 19:01:19 +0000 Message-ID: <000801c2d780$0ff07dc0$7de5fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 19:00:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: Eu/Alaska Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence J Howell" To: Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:10 PM Subject: Re: LF: Eu/Alaska > Hi Laurence. Can you work 160 metres CW, if possible I will call you on 1830 khz early morning, let me know best time for you. If we can make it I will also TX on 137.xxx as appropriate. I have worked quite a number of KL7 stns from here in the past on 160 metres. I would like a xband QSO. 73 De Mal/G3KEV/I094SH From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6487 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2003 18:07:07 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Feb 2003 18:07:07 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 19072 invoked by uid 10001); 18 Feb 2003 18:06:57 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Feb 2003 18:06:57 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lC82-0008Jl-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:06:02 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.10] (helo=mailman1.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lC81-0008Jc-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:06:02 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman1.ppco.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h1II605o016600 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 12:06:01 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Tue, 18 Feb 2003 12:05:59 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27800 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 12:05:57 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 09:05:53 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 02/18/2003 12:05:58 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: Links and conditions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false European overnight signals were mixed with fast and deep QSB - DCF39 peaked at 0400Z for about 30 minutes (!) at S6 then dived into the noise by 0520Z, not recovering by European dawn. Southern LF Bcast stations were very poor, and even the Northern Norwegian on 152/180Khz were down with fast QSB (say 1 second period S9 to S3 type) The data sig beacon DCF39 this morning 1500-1600Z is "seeable on Argo " but not "audible by ear". The feedback on Argo from Fabian et al is more than true. QOS of the signal is probably not defined in phase/jitter or freq and probably nothing like needed to fully utilize ARGO on the higher QRSS settings, but, being one to try anything Ive connected the output of the 870 to Echolink and am in conference with myself as KL1X - You should be able to join by clicking onto KL1X via the Echolink server - up to 9 people theoretically! So.the audio coming out of the speaker ...137.0 =0hz 138.0 = 1Khz and DCF38 will be heard as a 1.83 Khz tone (thats if Echolink/board passes 1.83Khz) - if nothing else if you can hear the data sig you know the path is somewhat open. This is truly a walk in the shack and out of the door test this morning - I dont know whether the remote echolink server will time me out eventually, and I havent had time to plug in a sig genny and see what really comes back freq/phase wise - I used Echoaudio test site and confirmed the audio was coming back (as has Martin G4FKK - thanks) The antennae is connected and Ill keep echolink up till either Im working on the system (people up the tower today sometime), but will try to leave Echolink link up with a message of whats happening at the "connect screen". I added another loading wire to the antennae yesterday afternoon and evening/night in a snow storm. The Antennae is now a 2 wire (6 ft separation using spreaders) Inverted U with 90 ft verticals at each end and about a 50 meter "top" - the second wire reduced the inductance required further and probably a bit of loss (maybe). If all was correct Ive added about 0.5-0.8 dB on s/n on DCF39. - every little helps. Laurence KL1X BP41 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27340 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2003 14:57:28 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Feb 2003 14:57:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 27492 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2003 14:57:30 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Feb 2003 14:57:30 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18l9AL-0007Y7-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 14:56:13 +0000 Received: from [212.135.6.11] (helo=smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18l9AK-0007Xy-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 14:56:12 +0000 Received: from tnt-18-79.easynet.co.uk ([212.134.224.79] helo=erica) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18l9AF-000MgQ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 14:56:07 +0000 Message-ID: <001401c2d75e$5a3add20$4fe086d4@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3.0.6.32.20030218104437.007df190@pop.jippii.fi> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 14:36:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: G3LDO abt 137.7 18th Feb 03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUBJECT_MONTH,SUBJECT_MONTH_2, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Vaino said >Surprisingly the last 'O' of 'LDO' was still well >visible here around 0850 UTC this morning (18 Feb). >Ooops... the time here should be 0750 UTC! Thanks for the report Vaino. I shut the transmitter down at 0750. Tomorrow I will leave it on a bit longer. Regards, Peter, G3LDO e-mail Web |---------------------------------------------------------| | V.K.Lehtoranta, OH2LX ¤ 60N33.6 024E58.7 KP20LN74 | | P.O.Box 50 ¤ Telephone: +358-9-4173965 | | FIN-05401, Jokela ¤ Telefax: +358-9-4173961 | | Finland ¤ email: vaiski@dlc.fi | |---------------------------------------------------------| From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29717 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2003 12:41:37 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Feb 2003 12:41:37 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 24474 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2003 12:41:39 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Feb 2003 12:41:39 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18l704-0006wf-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 12:37:28 +0000 Received: from [212.227.126.186] (helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18l704-0006wW-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 12:37:28 +0000 Received: from [212.227.126.161] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18l703-0005KK-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 13:37:27 +0100 Received: from [217.229.23.58] (helo=FABIAN.diolog.de) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18l703-0006AD-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 13:37:27 +0100 Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030218132940.00c70ff8@pop.1und1.com> X-Sender: pt8152986-6@pop.1und1.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 13:36:53 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Fabian Kurz" In-reply-to: <3e.2c17732f.2b831a36@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Eu/Alaska Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=6.0tests=IN_REP_TO,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello, it would probably much easier to install VNC (or one of the clones, I prefer tightVNC) on the PC which is directly connected to the receiver and then access it via the internet. VNC gives you the possibility to view the desktop of a remote PC and (with the right password) also to move the mouse/use the remote keyboard, so you could easily use all functions of ARGO (without any loss of quality) from every computer with an internet connection.. to avoid the trouble with changing IP-adresses, dyndns.org or a similar service could be used. I have tested it here and with my internet connection speed (128 KBs upstream), it can be used comfortably when using a 640*480 screen resolution (Thats about the size of the ARGO-window). 73, Fabian dj1yfk At 00:10 18.02.2003 -0500, you wrote: >In a message dated 2/17/03 8:25:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, >riese-k3djc@juno.com writes: > >(In regard to Echolink) > >> I see no reason why you couldn't connect your rcvr to one end and ARGO to >the other to create a really remote rcv site. Would allow true real time >viewing from Alaska to GB as example >> > >There is at least one reason: lossy data compression. Although the audio >quality sounds good to the ear, it is not linear PCM data. There is spectral >manipulation, time domain manipulation, and not nearly enough bit resolution >to give ARGO or other FFT programs enough clean data to work on. > >73 >John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3036 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2003 08:45:50 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Feb 2003 08:45:50 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 19791 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2003 08:45:51 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Feb 2003 08:45:51 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18l3Mw-00061i-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 08:44:50 +0000 Received: from [195.197.172.113] (helo=kura.mail.jippii.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18l3Mw-00061Z-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 08:44:50 +0000 Received: from tietokone (MKLXXXVIII.hdyn.saunalahti.fi [195.197.165.188]) by kura.mail.jippii.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2A8E020156B for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:44:49 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20030218104437.007df190@pop.jippii.fi> X-Sender: vaiski1@pop.jippii.fi (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:44:37 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?VuRpbvY=?=" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: G3LDO abt 137.7 18th Feb 03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUBJECT_MONTH,SUBJECT_MONTH_2version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Ooops... the time here should be 0750 UTC! Surprisingly the last 'O' of 'LDO' was still well visible here around 0850 UTC this morning (18 Feb). 73, Vaino, OH2LX |---------------------------------------------------------| | V.K.Lehtoranta, OH2LX ¤ 60N33.6 024E58.7 KP20LN74 | | P.O.Box 50 ¤ Telephone: +358-9-4173965 | | FIN-05401, Jokela ¤ Telefax: +358-9-4173961 | | Finland ¤ email: vaiski@dlc.fi | |---------------------------------------------------------| From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4204 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2003 08:11:03 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Feb 2003 08:11:03 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 6280 invoked by uid 10001); 18 Feb 2003 08:11:03 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Feb 2003 08:11:03 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18l2ol-0005sD-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 08:09:31 +0000 Received: from [195.197.172.114] (helo=velli.mail.jippii.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18l2ol-0005s4-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 08:09:31 +0000 Received: from tietokone (MKDXCIII.hdyn.saunalahti.fi [195.197.167.93]) by velli.mail.jippii.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F8FA20F3C4 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:09:30 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20030218100918.00860790@pop.jippii.fi> X-Sender: vaiski1@pop.jippii.fi X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:09:18 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?VuRpbvY=?=" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: G3LDO abt 137.7 18th Feb 03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUBJECT_MONTH,SUBJECT_MONTH_2version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Surprisingly the last 'O' of 'LDO' was still well visible here around 0850 UTC this morning (18 Feb). 73, Vaino, OH2LX |---------------------------------------------------------| | V.K.Lehtoranta, OH2LX ¤ 60N33.6 024E58.7 KP20LN74 | | P.O.Box 50 ¤ Telephone: +358-9-4173965 | | FIN-05401, Jokela ¤ Telefax: +358-9-4173961 | | Finland ¤ email: vaiski@dlc.fi | |---------------------------------------------------------| From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11597 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2003 05:11:42 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Feb 2003 05:11:42 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 24236 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2003 05:11:40 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Feb 2003 05:11:40 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18l01w-0005NU-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 05:10:56 +0000 Received: from [152.163.225.106] (helo=imo-r10.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18l01t-0005NL-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 05:10:54 +0000 Received: from WarmSpgs@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id l.3e.2c17732f (4362) for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 00:10:14 -0500 (EST) From: WarmSpgs@aol.com Message-ID: <3e.2c17732f.2b831a36@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 00:10:14 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Subject: Re: LF: Eu/Alaska Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false In a message dated 2/17/03 8:25:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, riese-k3djc@juno.com writes: (In regard to Echolink) >> I see no reason why you couldn't connect your rcvr to one end and ARGO to the other to create a really remote rcv site. Would allow true real time viewing from Alaska to GB as example >> There is at least one reason: lossy data compression. Although the audio quality sounds good to the ear, it is not linear PCM data. There is spectral manipulation, time domain manipulation, and not nearly enough bit resolution to give ARGO or other FFT programs enough clean data to work on. 73 John From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16773 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2003 01:28:40 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Feb 2003 01:28:40 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 23496 invoked by uid 10001); 18 Feb 2003 01:28:40 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Feb 2003 01:28:40 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18kwV5-0004er-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 01:24:47 +0000 Received: from [64.136.30.74] (helo=m11.lax.untd.com) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18kwV4-0004ei-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 01:24:47 +0000 Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"yokUgcxCbtTP7XLrpefewGNhN6rd5fEbIYQqYwlEacTodsT/Q90VwA=="> Received: (from riese-k3djc@juno.com) by m11.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id HQ9XH243; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 17:23:36 PST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 20:18:21 -0800 Message-ID: <20030217.202124.232.2.riese-k3djc@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,2-30 From: riese-k3djc@juno.com Subject: Re: LF: Eu/Alaska Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 13:10:37 -0900 "Laurence J Howell" writes: > > Fine Peter - have a look at this. Lets hope condx stay good. > > > Echolink - one of the new IP based radio communication tools > > > http://www.synergenics.com/ - you can download from there > > Basically using a radio thru a local "node" often simplex two/432/70 > Mhz > gateways to communicate via the IP network worldwide.to other > hams/pc's > repeaters...or direct PC to PC via dial up/cable to get to other > repeaters > (GB3IE/BC or what ever) or ham links, such as G4FKK-L (martins 4m > link in > south london) You need a PC/laptop, a dial up cable connection speak > and > microphone and away you go And it will work well on a connection of 26 K as is my case good audio quality PC to PC and if connecting to a high speed DSL user he can conference 5/7 folks at once. I see no reason why you couldn't connect your rcvr to one end and ARGO to the other to create a really remote rcv site. Would allow true real time viewing from Alaska to GB as example Bob K3DJC From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10606 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2003 23:12:46 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Feb 2003 23:12:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 3341 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2003 23:12:47 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Feb 2003 23:12:47 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18kuQI-0004I1-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 23:11:42 +0000 Received: from [195.92.195.174] (helo=cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18kuQH-0004Hs-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 23:11:41 +0000 Received: from modem-40.amarie.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.104.40] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18kuQG-00071B-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 23:11:41 +0000 Message-ID: <001901c2d6db$6a32ef20$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 23:20:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re. Eu/SAlaska Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Peter, Thanks for the info on the advice etc you gave to Laurence.I saw his mail about running Argo whilst away, and would have made some transmissions,unfortunately I went down with Bronchitis and was out of the running for 2 weeks. I then saw his mail to the reflector that he was looking again which is why I transmitted last Saturday.I guess it was pure luck that I got through. I am still recovering and need some sleep so I will leave it to you tonight. It is an interesting path and no doubt very different to the TA one. Best of luck ,73 Laurie. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16023 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2003 22:11:45 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Feb 2003 22:11:45 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 20302 invoked by uid 10001); 17 Feb 2003 22:11:41 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Feb 2003 22:11:41 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ktTL-00045B-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:10:47 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.10] (helo=mailman1.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ktTK-000452-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:10:46 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman1.ppco.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h1HMAj5o025361 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:10:45 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:10:40 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA14410 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:10:39 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 13:10:37 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 02/17/2003 04:10:40 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Eu/Alaska Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_01_02version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Fine Peter - have a look at this. Lets hope condx stay good. Echolink - one of the new IP based radio communication tools http://www.synergenics.com/ - you can download from there Basically using a radio thru a local "node" often simplex two/432/70 Mhz gateways to communicate via the IP network worldwide.to other hams/pc's repeaters...or direct PC to PC via dial up/cable to get to other repeaters (GB3IE/BC or what ever) or ham links, such as G4FKK-L (martins 4m link in south london) You need a PC/laptop, a dial up cable connection speak and microphone and away you go...and you have be a licensed ham to use it as it connects to transmitters.... Its very intuitive, "conferencable" piece of freeware and is windows based - so you can have many people on one "circuit" - I use it a lot not to chat to people, but to join in with working group conferences on specific topics, such as LF/VHF prop/Antennae etc. But its a great voice communications tool when doing experimentation and gives good point to point voice contact without using a telephone.....some people think its dilution of ham radio, but like ARGO etc I see it as yet another tool in the evolution of research : I think Ive passed this on already but follow this link to look at my ionosphere and geomag... http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/data.fcgi My tower work has been delayed due it its being Presidents day and -15c but Ill be on a monitoring again this evening. Have a great evening, Laurence From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22775 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2003 21:47:24 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Feb 2003 21:47:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 18817 invoked by uid 10001); 17 Feb 2003 21:47:23 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Feb 2003 21:47:23 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18kt5u-0003wN-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 21:46:34 +0000 Received: from [212.135.6.14] (helo=smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18kt5u-0003wE-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 21:46:34 +0000 Received: from tnt-18-147.easynet.co.uk ([212.134.224.147] helo=erica) by smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18kt5t-000JJv-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 21:46:33 +0000 Message-ID: <001d01c2d6ce$89d2dd20$bac428c3@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 21:30:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: Eu/Alaska Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Laurence, Transmitting conditions look good for tomorrow morning. Pardon my ignorance but what is 'Echolink' and how do you use it? Are there any BC or commercial LF sations in Alaska that we could monitor? Peter, G3LDO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20002 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2003 19:54:46 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Feb 2003 19:54:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 11761 invoked by uid 10001); 17 Feb 2003 19:54:45 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Feb 2003 19:54:45 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18krL2-0003ai-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:54:04 +0000 Received: from [212.85.249.135] (helo=clustermail.minx.net.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18krL2-0003aZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:54:04 +0000 Received: from [80.225.174.172] (helo=g1l5x3) by clustermail.minx.net.uk with smtp (Exim 3.22 #6) id 18ksMb-0005dg-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 20:59:45 +0000 Message-ID: <000101c2d6bd$ea644cc0$acaee150@g1l5x3> From: "Howard Aspinall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c2d37b$32e1eb60$50d1fc3e@l8p8y6> <006301c2d387$c8bd73a0$fad5fea9@smiley> <000e01c2d5f0$9850e1a0$55e4fc3e@l8p8y6> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:47:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 1154 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SALE,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Mal, the thing these days is that there are folk who regard this vintage stuff as currency, like antiques, old masters, even gold. Like you I once bought T1154s for a song, and broke them up for bits, never thinking that rarety would make them valuable one day. But whereas today, the typical bit of new imported amateur radio gear will depreciate like a new car, the prices of this old wireless stuff are behaving like that of houses. There's already quite a thriving community of folk actually using this old stuff, with suitable mods to make it conform to modern standards, and a T1154 crystal controlled can still put out quite a potent clean signal. The balancing act of retaining originality to preserve re-sale price, and modifying to make usable, is sometimes difficult to perform. 73..Howard/G3RXH Skipton From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21395 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2003 18:55:33 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Feb 2003 18:55:33 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 2892 invoked by uid 10001); 17 Feb 2003 18:55:33 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Feb 2003 18:55:33 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18kqPB-0003Lt-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 18:54:17 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.10] (helo=mailman1.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18kqPA-0003Lk-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 18:54:16 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman1.ppco.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h1HIsF5o014551 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:54:15 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:54:13 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09266 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:54:11 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:54:10 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 02/17/2003 12:54:13 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: Fm KL!X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear all - LF Conditions deteriorated overnight, the quasi-peak on DCF39 was at 0030-0130Z when it reached "S6-7" (S7 being a relative strength and NOT reference to a known -dBm figure) - then slow QSB into the mush by 0230, and another slight rise to S5 from 0520-0700Z. S7 was the relative level that AQC was rx'd a few days ago. At the same time Central/Southern European bcast LF signals were showing deep and rapid 1-2 second multi-path fades and a fair amount of doppler to 2-3Hz. QRN levels were low. Local QRM levels were low - Background noise was at "S3" for the test period. DCF39 is and has been visible on Argo for most of the 24 hour period here over the weekend. This, my Alaskan morning at 1500Z, 0600 local, pre dawn, I could only just detect the DCF39 data sig using qrss60. However Northern Scandinavia bcast on 153Khz (http://www.dxing.info/profiles/norway_nrk_ingoy.dx) was still good at S9 on the offtuned rx system. I promise to calibrate the rx levels soon - hopefully today. Thanks to all that tried last night. I should be back on rx this evening. The tower is being used for safety training by a local Communications company tomorrow but should be back on by the Eu pre dawn period, If, it helps, and means more sleep for you. I keep "Echolink" on line thru these tests - look for KL1X Laurence KL1X BP41XD Anchorage. WX overcast -12C From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3906 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2003 17:17:54 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Feb 2003 17:17:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 7437 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2003 17:17:53 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Feb 2003 17:17:53 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18kosx-0002z0-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 17:16:55 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.81] (helo=tungsten.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18kosw-0002yr-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 17:16:55 +0000 Received: from host213-122-109-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.109.85] helo=Main) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18kosw-0000Ye-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 17:16:54 +0000 Message-ID: <001101c2d6a8$60b32c40$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 17:16:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Loran-C lines Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Peter and all, the table of Lessay Loran-C lines is still available in the late John Sextons site. www.qsl.net/g4cnn which is still active. The NA lines are in the Library area of the LWCA site thanks to John. I have a copy of Andy's program that works out the Lessay lines at a given frequency and bandwidth ...very useful. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7259 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2003 16:46:22 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Feb 2003 16:46:22 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 10398 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2003 16:46:20 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Feb 2003 16:46:20 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18koO9-0002pr-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:45:05 +0000 Received: from [205.188.157.40] (helo=imo-d08.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18koO8-0002pe-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:45:04 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id l.10d.1fe56507 (16109) for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:44:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from aol.com (mow-d17.webmail.aol.com [205.188.139.133]) by air-id12.mx.aol.com (v90_r2.5) with ESMTP id MAILINID121-0217114424; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:44:24 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:44:24 -0500 From: MarkusVester@aol.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <62E19E12.1073E394.28FF0FBC@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Subject: Re: LF: Frequency check (LORAN) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=6.0tests=NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, SUPERLONG_LINEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Peter, > Does anyone have the frequencies of the Loran lines of Lessay? most of the sidebands of a Loran chain with given Group-Repetition-Interval occur precisely at integer multiples of 100000Hz/(2*GRI). Lessay and Sylt are both dual-rated, using GRI's 6731 and 7499. For the Alaska-bound window, the closest lines are 137772.9906 and 137771.7029 Hz. 73 de Markus, DF6NM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16924 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2003 10:32:33 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Feb 2003 10:32:33 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 17327 invoked by uid 10001); 17 Feb 2003 10:32:33 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Feb 2003 10:32:33 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18kiZ3-0001Tj-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:31:57 +0000 Received: from [212.35.226.183] (helo=k2.pncl.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18kiZ2-0001Ta-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:31:56 +0000 Received: from k7t.pncl.co.uk (198.235.35.212.in-addr.arpa.ip-pool.cix.co.uk [212.35.235.198]) by k2.pncl.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h1HAVtRg005529 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:31:55 GMT Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030217102928.00a30350@mail.pncl.co.uk> X-Sender: blanch@mail.pncl.co.uk (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:32:35 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Walter Blanchard" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: Admiralty Handbook Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020800090408090201070703" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020800090408090201070703 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Anybody wanting the "Admiralty Handbook of Wireless Telegraphy" 1938, Vols 1 or 2 contact Gordon Bussey 0208 660 2240. He has three copies. Also Langford-Smiths 1940 "Radio Designers Handbook" Walter G3JKV. --------------020800090408090201070703 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; name="ATT12107.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="ATT12107.txt" --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 21/01/03 --------------020800090408090201070703-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31277 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2003 09:36:48 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Feb 2003 09:36:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 20512 invoked by uid 10001); 17 Feb 2003 09:36:47 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Feb 2003 09:36:47 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18khgJ-0001Cj-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:35:23 +0000 Received: from [212.135.6.14] (helo=smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18khgJ-0001Ca-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:35:23 +0000 Received: from tnt-2-251.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.196.251] helo=erica) by smarthost4.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18khgG-0002TS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:35:21 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01c2d668$5da60760$fbc428c3@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:38:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Frequency check Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Markus said >just a short report before heading off to work: nice sigs this morning from Laurie (137773.82 / 773.71) and Peter (773.09), both at equal strength within a dB or so. G3AQC's call was apparently lacking a few of the dashes. The slight downward drift in the screenshot may partly be due to soundcard temperature changes after sunrise. Thanks for the screenshot Markus. The frequency check is most welcome. Laurie, do you know what your exact frequency is? Does anyone have the frequencies of the Loran lines of Lessay? I think they have been mentioned on the reflector before now but I can't remember where. Regards, Peter, G3LDO e-mail Web From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9704 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2003 09:05:43 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Feb 2003 09:05:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 12870 invoked by uid 10001); 17 Feb 2003 09:05:42 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Feb 2003 09:05:42 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18khD6-00010U-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:05:12 +0000 Received: from [195.92.195.175] (helo=cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18khD6-00010L-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:05:12 +0000 Received: from modem-19.angrod.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.114.19] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.10.11) id 18khD5-0008Hp-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:05:11 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c2d665$28f0b5e0$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:14:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Eu/Alaska Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Marcus and LF Group, Thanks for the screen shot. Sorry about the missing elements. I have to drop the transmission when I check my e mails Hi Good to see Peters signal,will have to await reports from Alaska to see wether there was any propagation,will be interesting to see if any Au flutter. 73 Laurie G3AQC From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9117 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2003 08:24:50 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Feb 2003 08:24:50 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 9378 invoked by uid 10001); 17 Feb 2003 08:24:50 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Feb 2003 08:24:50 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18kgZC-0000rK-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 08:23:58 +0000 Received: from [152.163.225.103] (helo=imo-r07.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18kgZ8-0000rB-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 08:23:55 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id l.d0.34e46da3 (4184) for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 03:23:19 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 03:23:19 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 10607 Subject: LF: Re: Eu/Alaska Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020000090700010908010200" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=6.0tests=MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: ** X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020000090700010908010200 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Laurence and LF group,

just a short report before heading off to work: nice sigs this morning from Laurie (137773.82 / 773.71) and Peter (773.09), both at equal strength within a dB or so. G3AQC's call was apparently lacking a few of the dashes. The slight downward drift in the screenshot may partly be due to soundcard temperature changes after sunrise.

Best of luck
Markus, DF6NM
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06:35:07 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18keml-0000Tw-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 06:29:51 +0000 Received: from [212.135.6.13] (helo=smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18kemk-0000Tn-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 06:29:50 +0000 Received: from tnt-18-168.easynet.co.uk ([212.134.224.168] helo=erica) by smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18kemj-0008Z4-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 06:29:50 +0000 Message-ID: <000801c2d64e$79072620$a8e086d4@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 06:32:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Eu/Alaska Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false G,morning/evening Laurence > > DCF39 is up to S7 at the moment at 0100Z 17th - good s/n. (thats 1556 and > full daylight/sun here) > > Listening 137.7735 +- 1Hz. Avoid 137.7727 due to Loran from 9990 Nth > Pacific. > > Some spreading of carriers from Eu giving .15Hz Au doppler (?) at present, > so not too sure how any narrow FSK will look. Didn't wake up until 0600z so a late start. Saw Laurie transmitting on 774.4/5 DFCW. His signal is so strong with me that I can monitor it with everthing backed down for monitoring my own transmission (except the antenna is connected to receiver). Laurie only lives about 8 or 10 miles west of me along the coast. Transmitting conditions here good. I managed to get 6.9 amps into the antenna. My signal is 773.8 indicated. Peter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24697 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2003 01:11:56 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Feb 2003 01:11:56 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 15728 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2003 01:11:55 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Feb 2003 01:11:55 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18kZob-0007zR-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 01:11:25 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.10] (helo=mailman1.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18kZob-0007zI-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 01:11:25 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman1.ppco.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h1H1BL5o014460 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:11:21 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:11:19 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA14217 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:11:18 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 16:11:20 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 02/16/2003 07:11:19 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Eu/Alaska Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Opps I meant its 0100Z....wishing the night away... From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19548 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2003 01:00:06 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Feb 2003 01:00:06 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 22064 invoked by uid 10001); 17 Feb 2003 01:00:06 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Feb 2003 01:00:06 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18kZcs-0007tM-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:59:18 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.140] (helo=mailman2.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18kZcr-0007tD-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:59:18 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman2.ppco.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h1H0xG0d028799 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 18:59:16 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Sun, 16 Feb 2003 18:59:14 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA09228 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 18:59:13 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 15:59:12 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 02/16/2003 06:59:14 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: Eu/Alaska Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Monday morning 0200Z 17th Feb DCF39 is up to S7 at the moment at 0200Z 17th - good s/n. (thats 1556 and full daylight/sun here) Listening 137.7735 +- 1Hz. Avoid 137.7727 due to Loran from 9990 Nth Pacific. Some spreading of carriers from Eu giving .15Hz Au doppler (?) at present, so not too sure how any narrow FSK will look. Laurence KL1X Bp41xd Anchorage From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20422 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2003 22:55:30 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 16 Feb 2003 22:55:30 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 1621 invoked by uid 10001); 16 Feb 2003 22:55:30 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Feb 2003 22:55:30 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18kXgX-0007Xl-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 22:54:57 +0000 Received: from [24.153.64.2] (helo=smtp.comcast.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18kXgW-0007Xc-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 22:54:56 +0000 Received: from Charlie_Drake (pcp01445904pcs.lebnon01.pa.comcast.net [68.83.65.211]) by mtaout01.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.09 (built Jan 7 2003)) with SMTP id <0HAF00LG5BMOZY@mtaout01.icomcast.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 17:54:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 17:53:24 -0500 From: "Steve Dove" In-reply-to: <001d01c2d60b$4e6dd3c0$6507a8c0@Main> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: Organization: d s p MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Opera 6.04 build 1135 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: LF: W3EEE plots Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=6.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,INVALID_MSGID,IN_REP_TO,NOSPAM_INC, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Alan, Not sure what the correlation is, but we're in the throes of a major snowstorm. Expected accumulation 18-24". Some parts of the country it's nothing, but here it's much more than usual; the infrastructure is creaking. Last time this happened (12" on Christmas Day), we lost power for three days. Cheers, Steve , , , 2/16/2003 5:32:27 PM, "Alan Melia" wrote: >Hi all it looks as if Steve has a local electrical storm around at the >present, so his plots may be of the local crashes rather than of DCF >tonight. > >Cheers de Alan G3NYK >alan.melia@btinternet.com > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19890 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2003 22:33:19 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 16 Feb 2003 22:33:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 12463 invoked by uid 10001); 16 Feb 2003 22:33:10 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Feb 2003 22:33:10 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18kXKr-0007Qs-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 22:32:33 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.111] (helo=gadolinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18kXKr-0007Qj-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 22:32:33 +0000 Received: from host213-122-194-230.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.194.230] helo=Main) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18kXKq-0005p4-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 22:32:33 +0000 Message-ID: <001d01c2d60b$4e6dd3c0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 22:32:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: W3EEE plots Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all it looks as if Steve has a local electrical storm around at the present, so his plots may be of the local crashes rather than of DCF tonight. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17332 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2003 19:22:44 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 16 Feb 2003 19:22:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 3845 invoked by uid 10001); 16 Feb 2003 19:22:43 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Feb 2003 19:22:42 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18kUML-0006lQ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:21:53 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.47] (helo=mta7-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18kUML-0006lH-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:21:53 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.228.85]) by mta7-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030216192151.EQLO19755.mta7-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:21:51 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01c2d5f0$9850e1a0$55e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c2d37b$32e1eb60$50d1fc3e@l8p8y6> <006301c2d387$c8bd73a0$fad5fea9@smiley> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:21:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: 1154 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=6.0tests=HTML_FONT_COLOR_MAGENTA,MAILTO_LINK,REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUPERLONG_LINE,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 5:45 PM
Subject: LF: Re: 1154

Hi Mal
 
There's a complete 1154 on ebay at the moment if you fancy splashing out! :-)
 
Or you could have a word with www.radio-exports.com  or info@radio-exports.com who say that they have several 1154s in stock.
 
Tracey
Thanks Tracy for the T1154 info. Looking at the sites you suggest and the prices. I will take half, about Ł250 for mine if I decide to sell. I had several over the years and broke them up for the variable condensers. They cost 12/6 ie twelve shillings and six pence each around 1955 from Clydesdale Scotland. I wish I had kept them and bought some more as well. I could have bought another house today with the proceeds. On the internet everyone wants to point me to where I can get things at some rediculous price but no one seems to have the odd switch or valve base that I need, on the other hand I often send others bits and pieces that I have surplus to my needs for NOTHING.
 
de Mal/G3KEV
 
de  Mal/G3KEV
 
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 4:15 PM
Subject: LF: 1154

Hi All
Does anyone by chance have any T1154 bits about their shacks that are not required. I got an old Jeep recently and want to refurbish it. Getting it ready for 500 khz LF !!! if/when it becomes available.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9890 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2003 18:39:53 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 16 Feb 2003 18:39:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 24628 invoked by uid 10001); 16 Feb 2003 18:39:53 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Feb 2003 18:39:53 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18kTe7-0006X6-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 18:36:11 +0000 Received: from [213.40.2.14] (helo=gourd.sout.netline.net.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18kTe7-0006We-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 18:36:11 +0000 Received: from [213.40.205.127] (helo=tcs1) by gourd.sout.netline.net.uk with smtp (Exim 4.04) id 18kTda-0005SZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 18:35:39 +0000 From: "G4WGT" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 18:36:32 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-reply-to: <001701c2d437$a34b3520$a9e8fc3e@l8p8y6> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: RE: Re: Spectrum Lab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=6.0tests=IN_REP_TO,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OUTLOOKversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Mal, Apparently not all the mirror sites will have the latest version to download, I used the AOL site & got the latest version. 73 Gary G4WGT. -----Original Message----- Subject: LF: Re: Spectrum Lab I just downloaded Spec Lab and got version 1.08 from DL4YHF seems a bit odd hi --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11159 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2003 18:39:51 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 16 Feb 2003 18:39:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 9568 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2003 18:39:52 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Feb 2003 18:39:52 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18kTe9-0006XL-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 18:36:13 +0000 Received: from [213.40.2.14] (helo=gourd.sout.netline.net.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18kTe7-0006Wd-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 18:36:11 +0000 Received: from [213.40.205.127] (helo=tcs1) by gourd.sout.netline.net.uk with smtp (Exim 4.04) id 18kTdZ-0005SZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 18:35:37 +0000 From: "G4WGT" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 18:36:30 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-reply-to: <19b.10dece88.2b7e51d1@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: RE: LF: Spectrum Lab Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=6.0tests=IN_REP_TO,SPAM_PHRASE_05_08,USER_AGENT_OUTLOOKversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi Wolf,
 
Thanks for you reply, I am using Windows 2000 Pro which may cause a (not sure if WinNT is ok) problem.
 
Settings are - High Color (16 bit) & video is - 800x600 pixels.
 
I have just re-set the video to - True color (32 bits) as you suggested below & it initially appears to have rectified the problem, I will continue in that mode & do longer test runs & report back to you.
 
Thank you for your reply & help.
 
73
 
Gary  G4WGT.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of DL4YHF@aol.com
Sent: 14 February 2003 14:06
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Spectrum Lab

Hi Gary,

Which type of windows are you using (W98, NT, or..) and what is the video mode (256 colors, "high color" (65k colors), or "true color") ? This would help to trace the bug.

I am using "true color" (32 bits per pixel) and there are no problems under Win98 or Win XP.

Regards,
Wolf DL4YHF.
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14671 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2003 18:30:58 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 16 Feb 2003 18:30:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 16514 invoked by uid 10001); 16 Feb 2003 18:30:58 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Feb 2003 18:30:58 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18kTUE-0006SJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 18:25:58 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.42] (helo=mta2-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18kTU9-0006SA-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 18:25:53 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.232.135]) by mta2-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030216182552.OCCL21072.mta2-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 18:25:52 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c2d5e8$c77d45c0$87e8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 18:24:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: No LF Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi All
Very little LF acty today but 10 metres open World Wide, with lots of USA/Canadian acty East West especially good.
160 metres also good in the early evening to VK/DU/5H3/JA. No need to sit up all night !!
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28041 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2003 19:48:45 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Feb 2003 19:48:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 22615 invoked by uid 10001); 15 Feb 2003 19:48:45 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Feb 2003 19:48:44 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18k8HZ-0001wf-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 19:47:29 +0000 Received: from [193.162.153.4] (helo=pfepc.post.tele.dk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18k8HW-0001wW-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 19:47:26 +0000 Received: from preinstapdq0tf (0xc3d7e205.hgnxr2.ras.tele.dk [195.215.226.5]) by pfepc.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 17985262A2C for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 20:47:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <000c01c2d52b$0c8136e0$05e2d7c3@preinstapdq0tf> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Niels_Rudberg_J=F8rgensen?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 20:46:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: THE EH ANTENNA Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hello lf-group!
 
We recently saw an interesting description of IZ7ATH´s 160-meter EH antenna and with this description came of course the question of whether this antenna could be thing for 136 kHz.
 
There have been  few comments on the reflector on this issue, --comments which I as such
largely agree with.
 
It seems to me, however, that the recent discussion and earlier discussions on that antenna 
too, does not bring any answer to the question what this antenna actually is.
ON7YD, RIK mentions  the antenna as possibly being "the funny looking top-hat of a vertical".
 
Now let us see, what it really is:
The antenna part of it, the two metalic cylinders, constitute a short (very short) dipole!
The two coils and the two capacitors form a BOUCHEROT BRIDGE. (This bridge was, by
the way, invented back in the early 1930´ies). A boucherot bridge performs two functions:
First, it is a unbalanced-to-balanced device (balun) and secondly, it provides an impedance trans-
formation, in this case low (50 Ohms) - to - high impedance.
Ideally, there would be no feeder radiation and further, the antenna, being a dipole, should
not care too much about the earth beneath the antenna! -- In the real life things are, however,
a bit more complicated.
 
If we look at the IZ7ATH 160-meter antenna, the characteristic impedance of the boucherot
bridge is 600-700 Ohm, giving a transformation from 50 Ohms to some 7 kiloOhm (the two
coils ought to be identical and btw., not coupling to each other). There is no doubt in my mind, that the IZ7ATH antenna works quite well. It is probably a bit narrow frequencywise.
 
Now to the question of using this antenna on 136 kHz: Asuming somebody having a large
garden and  very tolerant neighbours would try out this antenna, what would he experience?
If I may guess, it might not be bad at all.  The antenna being a dipole, ground losses would
be considerably lower  than with a ground-reference vertical. There are two coils, who in
addition to providing impedance transformation also must tune out the antenna capacitance.
I dare not at the present try to estimate how  the losses of the two "airborne" coils
would be compared to the losses of the variometer of a ground-referenced vertical.
 
Who is going to try out such an antenna? By the way, anticipating possible neighbour
reactions, it might be an idea to start building a cage-like structure instead of  sheet
metal cylinders!
73, Niels, OZ8NJ+    
 
  
  
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31340 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2003 18:12:31 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Feb 2003 18:12:31 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 24610 invoked by uid 10001); 15 Feb 2003 18:12:31 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Feb 2003 18:12:31 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18k6mr-0001et-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 18:11:41 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.140] (helo=mailman2.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18k6mq-0001ek-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 18:11:40 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman2.ppco.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h1FIBd0d008676 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 12:11:39 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Sat, 15 Feb 2003 12:11:38 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA26243 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 12:11:36 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 09:11:35 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 02/15/2003 12:11:37 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: LF: : EuropeAlaska G3AQC/KL1X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Ed - Rx set up here the most excellent Argo (thanks!) TS870, background noise at 137Khz is "S3" (where S3 is yet to be found -dBm figure but probably not a high figure!) 100m LDF450a, two inverted L 27 meter high verticals strapped together where they attach to the loading coil - with around 80m horizontal tops on one and 50m on other - verticals sections only a meter or two separated. One horizontal top NE/SW other E/W, Solenoid loading coil at bottom on the tower around 0.9mH (I think given the calcs) and extensive earth system designed for 160m/80m, 120 radials mostly 40m long, a few at a hundred meters towards Eu, 8 x 6ft earth rods for lightning protection and connections to a 150ft well casing. (I must measure how deep this casing is). Poor ground conductivity but Beverages no go because of the bears and mooses. Location in a forest with trees close in to 90 ft - not good for 160/80m low angle rx/tx - Ive now heard more from Europe on 136Khz than 1.8Mhz! AQC's signal was the first one Ive seen. I run the rx without any dsp on USB with bandwidth set at 1.6Khz with 300Hz low cutoff. Full 870 "DSP"selection brings in close in noise to the display so its off - NB is on to counter loran (and very effective too on the 870), Full RF gain but I turn back the agc to nearly off otherwise the peaks of noise gives S7 and I lose the weaker signals - this wouldnt be effective or work on voice or very strong signals Im sure. Im lucky in hearing very very weakly DCF39 thru the day when changing the radios settings proves how to get the best s/n. - Argo is an excellent tool for this. Laurence KL1X Anchorage, still with no new snow. RX 137.7735 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21818 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2003 17:08:34 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Feb 2003 17:08:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 3578 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2003 17:08:34 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Feb 2003 17:08:34 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18k5nJ-0001Ri-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 17:08:05 +0000 Received: from [63.171.43.2] (helo=ns2.genesis-technology.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18k5nJ-0001RZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 17:08:05 +0000 Received: from we0h ([65.165.20.192]) by ns2.genesis-technology.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h1FH82R09531 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 11:08:02 -0600 From: "WE0H" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 11:08:24 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-reply-to: <165439110553.20030215195725@dx.ru> Importance: Normal Subject: RE: LF: : EuropeAlaska G3AQC/KL1X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.6 required=6.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OUTLOOKversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Ed, You will have to try to make your signal to Alaska now. Mike>WE0H http://www.we0h.us/lf -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Ed Lesnichy Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 10:57 AM To: Laurence J Howell Subject: Re: LF: : EuropeAlaska G3AQC/KL1X Hello LF Group!! Saturday, February 15, 2003, you wrote: LJH> Laurie - Maidenhead is BP41XD WGS84 datum as 61 deg 09 mins 24.2 secs N LJH> 150 deg 00 mins 17.4 secs West. My prg generate BP51AD with 61d 09m 24s N -150d 00m 17s W G3AQC QTH-loc IO90NT Distance BP51AD - IO90NT = 7265km but BP41XD - IO90NT = 7267km ;-)) the nearest small squares XD-AD Congratulations Laurie^2!!! (C)G3NYK The Auroal zone is punched !! Longh Path to West Cost from KN97LN on 160/80m is not so good now ;-(( What's KL1X RX setup?? 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 352 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2003 16:59:21 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Feb 2003 16:59:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 25899 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2003 16:59:21 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Feb 2003 16:59:21 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18k5dT-0001M0-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 16:57:55 +0000 Received: from [80.68.3.204] (helo=relay.dx.ru) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18k5dS-0001Lr-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 16:57:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 85499 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2003 18:15:35 +0300 Received: from ed.dx (10.0.1.11) by gw.dx with SMTP; 15 Feb 2003 18:15:35 +0300 Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 19:57:25 +0300 From: "Ed Lesnichy" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <165439110553.20030215195725@dx.ru> To: "Laurence J Howell" In-reply-to: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: : EuropeAlaska G3AQC/KL1X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=6.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,NOSPAM_INC,REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_THEBATversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello LF Group!! Saturday, February 15, 2003, you wrote: LJH> Laurie - Maidenhead is BP41XD WGS84 datum as 61 deg 09 mins 24.2 secs N LJH> 150 deg 00 mins 17.4 secs West. My prg generate BP51AD with 61d 09m 24s N -150d 00m 17s W G3AQC QTH-loc IO90NT Distance BP51AD - IO90NT = 7265km but BP41XD - IO90NT = 7267km ;-)) the nearest small squares XD-AD Congratulations Laurie^2!!! (C)G3NYK The Auroal zone is punched !! Longh Path to West Cost from KN97LN on 160/80m is not so good now ;-(( What's KL1X RX setup?? 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29093 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2003 15:58:32 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Feb 2003 15:58:32 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 26950 invoked by uid 10001); 15 Feb 2003 15:58:32 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Feb 2003 15:58:32 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18k4di-00019f-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 15:54:06 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.140] (helo=mailman2.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18k4di-00019W-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 15:54:06 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman2.ppco.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h1FFs50d007316 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 09:54:05 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Sat, 15 Feb 2003 09:54:03 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15423 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 09:54:02 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 06:54:00 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 02/15/2003 09:54:03 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: : EuropeAlaska G3AQC/KL1X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_02_03version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Laurie - Maidenhead is BP41XD WGS84 datum as 61 deg 09 mins 24.2 secs N 150 deg 00 mins 17.4 secs West. The pre Europe dawn peak seems to wander from day to day and I thought with the given increase in daylight per day, nearly 6 mins at this latitude, that the prop window of opportunity was closing on us. However, given that I considered conditions only fair/medium last night it does make me think that I should be seeing more in the near future, save any increase in K, stratwarm etc. This is confirmed too by Alan text. The previous day whilst testing with Peter LDO I saw the UK peak at around 0600, that's if you can correlate 198 with 137 kHz as a generalization. Ill be pulling up more last nights data on the ionosphere above me/path later today. Thanks to all for data/technical stuff - w3eee/1tag/3nyk's data especially,and Peter LDO for his time and patience. Ive permission pending with the FAA (im close to anchorage international airport) to increase the tower to >120 ft so things can only get better.... Ill log again today from around 0000-0800Z centered 137.7735 +- 1Hz viewable - I hope the Au doesn't come, and I've just been outside to reconfirm my GPS location and no visual Au here at the mom. Its 1540Z/0640 Alaskan, and Im still detecting DCF39 which is a good sign. Laurence KL1X aka G4DMA Kincaid Park Anchorage BP41XD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31875 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2003 14:19:11 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Feb 2003 14:19:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 29804 invoked by uid 10001); 15 Feb 2003 14:19:02 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Feb 2003 14:19:02 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18k39B-0000qb-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:18:29 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.12] (helo=dc-mx02.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18k39A-0000qS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:18:28 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx02.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 48297016 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 09:17:57 -0500 Message-ID: <002401c2d4fd$22c5d4c0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c2d4da$7a1d6120$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:18:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Europr-Alaska Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Congratulations to Laurie and Lawrence! With aurora expected this weekend, you may have done it just in time. For what it's worth, Laurie's signal was in and out overnight here. The 0500 to 0700 region was the best. It looks like Laurie may have dropped a "C" around 0530, preventing me from getting a complete ID. The only other one that was close was his last, which ended just before 0700. A fine accomplishment. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19466 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2003 13:37:05 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Feb 2003 13:37:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 16710 invoked by uid 10001); 15 Feb 2003 13:37:05 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Feb 2003 13:37:04 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18k2US-0000gl-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 13:36:24 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.46] (helo=mta06-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18k2UN-0000gc-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 13:36:19 +0000 Received: from oemcomputer ([80.4.106.220]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20030215133612.DQZQ4022.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@oemcomputer> for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 13:36:12 +0000 Message-ID: <000801c2d4f6$7257df80$dc6a0450@oemcomputer> From: "mike.dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c2d4da$7a1d6120$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 13:30:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Europr-Alaska Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > I transmitted last night from 0230UTC until 0715.Hoping to catch the grey > line over Alaska at about 0330 but only traces of signal were reported by > KL1X at 0400. > However a good "O" signal was recieved between 0615 and 0700.our pre-dawn > period. > Kp was 3 so higher than I would like and Laurence reported that DCF39 was > only S7/8 well below its best S9+20 ! So it looks like good possibilities > for this path in the future. KL1X capture attached,I hope. > 73 Laurie G3AQC. Well done, Laurie. I make the distance 7278km. Is this a record for 1W ERP? Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30707 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2003 11:39:38 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Feb 2003 11:39:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 26775 invoked by uid 10001); 15 Feb 2003 11:39:38 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Feb 2003 11:39:38 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18k0ef-0000MG-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 11:38:49 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.81] (helo=tungsten.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18k0ee-0000M7-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 11:38:48 +0000 Received: from host213-122-203-33.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.203.33] helo=Main) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18k0ed-0001MK-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 11:38:48 +0000 Message-ID: <003a01c2d4e6$ecc81f60$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 11:12:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: G3AQC<>KL1X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_01_02,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, and congratulations to Laurie^2. A quick look at Steve's (W3EEE) plot for last night does show a good peak between 0450 and 0600z.This is a little surprising as I would not have expected the path to Steve to be a very good predictor of Trans-Arctic propagation. I think Laurie has just crept in, in an aurorally quiet period (?), but the fact that absolutely top conditions were not necessary is very encouraging. Conditions have recently started to slowly recover from the geomagnetic activity we suffered in late January. The Kp index is still "unsettled" and there are predictions of increased solar wind and possible CME from a geoeffective coronal hole, so this "window" may not last too long" The Trans-Arctic path may be very complex and reception may depend on being able to "skip" a signal under the auroral belt, which will provide severe absorption. For this reason it may not always be good when other paths are good and it may also be very dependent on the relative position of the transmitting and receiving stations. There are also several other effects that can have a bearing on Trans-Arctic propagation. These are well described on Tom's KN4LF web site. Well done both, Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26178 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2003 10:01:18 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Feb 2003 10:01:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 8014 invoked by uid 10001); 15 Feb 2003 10:01:18 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Feb 2003 10:01:16 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18jz7J-00004x-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 10:00:17 +0000 Received: from [195.92.193.21] (helo=cmailm5.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18jz7F-0008WU-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 10:00:13 +0000 Received: from modem-50.celegorm.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.147.50] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailm5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.10.11) id 18jz71-0005Ic-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 09:59:59 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c2d4da$7a1d6120$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 10:08:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Europr-Alaska Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070207000309020902060407" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070207000309020902060407 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear LF group, I transmitted last night from 0230UTC until 0715.Hoping to catch the grey line over Alaska at about 0330 but only traces of signal were reported by KL1X at 0400. However a good "O" signal was recieved between 0615 and 0700.our pre-dawn period. Kp was 3 so higher than I would like and Laurence reported that DCF39 was only S7/8 well below its best S9+20 ! So it looks like good possibilities for this path in the future. 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required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > Hi Lawrence, > GREAT ! you have it all, only the first dash of "Q" is down in a short > fade.. I was transmitting AQC. Guess we will have to do it again with my > full call. Need your locator to work out distance between us. > Thanks 73 Laurie. > Hi Laurie, Congratulations on another DX achievment! Regards, Peter, G3LDO e-mail Web > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31684 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2003 07:46:41 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Feb 2003 07:46:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 25819 invoked by uid 10001); 15 Feb 2003 07:46:41 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Feb 2003 07:46:41 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18jx1Y-00086p-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 07:46:12 +0000 Received: from [63.171.43.2] (helo=ns2.genesis-technology.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18jx1X-00086g-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 07:46:11 +0000 Received: from we0h ([65.165.20.192]) by ns2.genesis-technology.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h1F7k3R13586 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 01:46:03 -0600 From: "WE0H" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 01:46:46 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-reply-to: <001201c2d4c6$03d06f80$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> Importance: Normal Subject: LF: RE: KL1X Snap shot morning 15th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=6.0tests=IN_REP_TO,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OUTLOOKversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false That is certainly a long haul to Alaska!!! Mike>WE0H http://www.we0h.us/lf -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Laurie Mayhead Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 1:43 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: KL1X Snap shot morning 15th Hi Lawrence, GREAT ! you have it all, only the first dash of "Q" is down in a short fade.. I was transmitting AQC. Guess we will have to do it again with my full call. Need your locator to work out distance between us. Thanks 73 Laurie. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31077 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2003 07:37:32 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Feb 2003 07:37:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 28248 invoked by uid 10001); 15 Feb 2003 07:37:31 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Feb 2003 07:37:31 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18jwpI-00081T-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 07:33:32 +0000 Received: from [195.92.193.21] (helo=cmailm5.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18jwpH-00081K-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 07:33:31 +0000 Received: from modem-115.amras.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.105.115] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailm5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.10.11) id 18jwpG-0005VH-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 07:33:31 +0000 Message-ID: <001201c2d4c6$03d06f80$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 07:42:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: KL1X Snap shot morning 15th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Lawrence, GREAT ! you have it all, only the first dash of "Q" is down in a short fade.. I was transmitting AQC. Guess we will have to do it again with my full call. Need your locator to work out distance between us. Thanks 73 Laurie. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11144 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2003 02:45:06 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 15 Feb 2003 02:45:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 13567 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2003 02:45:07 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Feb 2003 02:45:07 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18jsJL-0007Dc-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 02:44:15 +0000 Received: from [195.92.193.21] (helo=cmailm5.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18jsJL-0007DT-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 02:44:15 +0000 Received: from modem-110.avallone.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.130.238] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailm5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.10.11) id 18jsJK-00084T-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 02:44:14 +0000 Message-ID: <001001c2d49d$9a4d33e0$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 02:52:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Europe-Alaska Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Lawrence, I am now (0230UTC) transmitting on 137,773.6kHz QRSS 60. Guess its a long shot but who knows. Will continue until 0630 UTC if all goes well. Laurie. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2141 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2003 21:57:58 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Feb 2003 21:57:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 22920 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2003 21:57:58 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Feb 2003 21:57:57 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18jnpB-0006Tb-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 21:56:49 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.43] (helo=mta3-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18jnpB-0006TS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 21:56:49 +0000 Received: from ian ([62.252.209.95]) by mta3-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030214215648.YNRR15439.mta3-svc.business.ntl.com@ian> for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 21:56:48 +0000 Message-ID: <000001c2d474$154da4a0$5fd1fc3e@ian> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:43:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: For amusement only. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=6.0tests=DATE_IN_PAST_06_12,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Recent exciting experiences with various types of capacitors (ALWAYS make sure that oilfilled caps are discharged and strapped before you put them in the junkbox!) were painfully recalled when I heard this; Miss Farad was pretty and sensual, And charged with a reckless potential. But a rascal named Ohm Conducted her home. Her decline was, alas, exponential. (A.P.French, Journal of NPS; relayed by GI3XZM) Ian. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4981 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2003 19:25:30 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Feb 2003 19:25:30 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 28027 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2003 19:25:31 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Feb 2003 19:25:30 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18jlS8-00063S-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 19:24:52 +0000 Received: from [205.188.157.35] (helo=imo-d03.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18jlS8-00063D-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 19:24:52 +0000 Received: from DL4YHF@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id l.55.390863b4 (24895) for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:24:09 -0500 (EST) From: DL4YHF@aol.com Message-ID: <55.390863b4.2b7e9c59@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:24:09 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 for Windows XP sub 50 Subject: Re: LF: Spectrum Lab Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=6.0tests=MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: ** X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Steve,

>
> Now we've sussed your 'day job'.  The truth is out!
>

Damnit, now you got me !

Well ... I listened to "Radio Cure" on the "Yankee Hotel Foxtrot" album (found as audio sample at amazon) and it sounded dreadful - must have have been a bad day before, at least the vocalist sounds so. IMO, better "radio-related" rock music was made by Alan Parsons (even with real CW as rhytmic beat in there), OMD, and others.

Echo Echo Echo and the Group from Yanke Hotel Foxtrott,   Thanks,  Over Over.

From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26269 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2003 18:34:34 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Feb 2003 18:34:34 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 8131 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2003 18:34:34 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Feb 2003 18:34:34 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18jkau-0005q2-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 18:29:52 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.140] (helo=mailman2.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18jkat-0005pt-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 18:29:52 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman2.ppco.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h1EITo0d017455 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 12:29:50 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 14 Feb 2003 12:29:48 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16157 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 12:29:47 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 09:29:47 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 02/14/2003 12:29:48 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: Early Z 14th conditions - Alaska Europe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Fair/Better conditions between Europe and Alaska than of late - DCF39 peaked just before 0500Z this morning with good s/n (say background local QRM at S3 the data sig peaked S7), and little or no lightning QRM; I only get lightning interference in my mornings here at the moment . BBCR4 on 198 shallow peaked about an hour later. DCF39 has peaked at some 28db stronger, with same sort of s/n increase on Jan 5/6 than those measured last night. Ill have the receivers on tonight and over the weekend again from 0000Z till 0730Z QRSS60 centered on 137.7735. +- 1Hz. I may pop down to the other end of the band if I read of activity via this medium We have a loran line at 137 772.773 from station 9990 - North Pacific which is strongish (thanks W1TAG for the info - proves freq calibration of the radios too!) The 135 Khz end of the band is a lot more noisy here at the moment. Any activity with actual freq and times can be mailed direct to my email if you dont want to flood the reflector. KL1X station this week Ant - top cap, bottom 0.9mH (ish) loaded 90ft vertical(s), RX = TS870. Largish earth radial system (as employed on 160m - still small for 137!) and a 150ft well casing. ground conductivity in my reckoning is poor. Antennae is in a middle of a forest with trees to 90ft which Im sure doesn't help either - it certainly doesn't help on 160/80m using the s/f tower WX foggy 0C - No snow still. Laurence KL1X BP41 Anchorage flohowell@hotmail.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17998 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2003 16:55:04 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Feb 2003 16:55:04 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 27807 invoked by uid 10001); 14 Feb 2003 16:55:04 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Feb 2003 16:55:04 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18jj6V-0005Wm-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 16:54:23 +0000 Received: from [194.25.134.21] (helo=mailout10.sul.t-online.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18jj6V-0005Wd-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 16:54:23 +0000 Received: from fwd10.sul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18jj6U-00011Z-06; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 17:54:22 +0100 Received: from 192.168.6.2 (0607144537-0001@[217.225.204.97]) by fwd10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18jj6C-0Vkb7wC; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 17:54:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "bernd grupe" To: "lf-group" X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 4.109 Date: 14 Feb 2003 16:53 GMT Message-ID: <18jj6C-0Vkb7wC@fwd10.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0607144537-0001@t-dialin.net Subject: LF: RE: EH-Antenna Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUPERLONG_LINE,USER_AGENT_TONLINEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Valerio and all, my marconi has abt 1%% = -30 dBi efficiency. And yes, i think you are right when you guess that our short monoples have the same. The hope is, to get more. But who is able to tell us how to achieve? Experiments with 1.8 MHz are lowbandactivities concerning shortwaves but it is far away from 137 kHz. Well, we all know how hard it is to decrease the groundloss but is there anyone who will do the work for an EH-antenna? Most of you are asssuming a big construction by reasonable theoretical thinking but as far as i know nobody made the job. So may be the EH-antenna will be a never ending dream :-)) 73 Bernd, DF8ZR From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10850 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2003 16:16:04 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Feb 2003 16:16:04 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 4894 invoked by uid 10001); 14 Feb 2003 16:16:04 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Feb 2003 16:16:03 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18jiUR-0005Jf-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 16:15:03 +0000 Received: from [24.153.64.2] (helo=smtp.comcast.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18jiUQ-0005J3-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 16:15:02 +0000 Received: from Charlie_Drake (pcp01445904pcs.lebnon01.pa.comcast.net [68.83.65.211]) by mtaout06.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.09 (built Jan 7 2003)) with SMTP id <0HAB00GBX3S4ZL@mtaout06.icomcast.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:14:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 10:49:47 -0500 From: "Steve Dove" In-reply-to: <19b.10dece88.2b7e51d1@aol.com> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <3Y86ZTQTQUO51WR3GACALHLIUPKEA6.3e4d101b@Charlie_Drake> Organization: d s p MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Opera 6.04 build 1135 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: LF: Spectrum Lab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=6.0tests=INVALID_MSGID,IN_REP_TO,NOSPAM_INC,SPAM_PHRASE_02_03version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Wolf, the truth is out! On one of my increasingly irregular and increasingly depressing rummages through the 'Rock' department of the local record store, I was stopped dead by an album by a band called 'Wilco'. I kid you not, the album's title was: 'Yankee Hotel Foxtrot' and one of the tracks was called 'Radio Cure' Now we've sussed your 'day job'. The truth is out! Wilco, old chap. Over and out, Steve From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31275 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2003 15:05:06 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Feb 2003 15:05:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 7292 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2003 15:05:02 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Feb 2003 15:05:02 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18jhO6-00051o-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:04:26 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.93] (helo=rhenium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18jhO5-00051f-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:04:25 +0000 Received: from dial81-135-44-5.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.135.44.5] helo=Main) by rhenium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18jhO4-0007cd-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:04:25 +0000 Message-ID: <002601c2d43a$82213040$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1c9.51955e0.2b7e51d2@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:59:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Virus Warning: CLEZ found in zipped PIFattachment Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Wolf, you are lucky you only got one !! I had 250 similar messages over a 36 hours period (2 different message bodies) all trapped by my ISPs new facility. The suspicion was cast either on a German station and/or an academic institution "richardson.uni2.ac" was involved in both. They seem to have stopped now. So either the sender is blacklisted or he has found out about it. The virus was not Klez in this case but an earlier form. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: 14 February 2003 14:06 Subject: LF: Virus Warning: CLEZ found in zipped PIFattachment > Dear group, > > I received a mail today with a *.PIF file attachment which contained the CLEZ > virus. > Fortunately, due to NOT USING MS Outlook here, no harm was produced, and the > anti virus software alerted me immediately. > > The sender of the infected mail claimed to be "dl4yhf@aol.com" which is > definitely not true. Maybe someone's PC with my address in the address list > is infected so be alert. > > The mail itself did not have any text body, and the title was "Don't drink so > much beer" or something like that. > > Regards, > Wolf DL4YHF. > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2425 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2003 14:52:17 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Feb 2003 14:52:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 19316 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2003 14:52:17 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Feb 2003 14:52:17 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18jhBj-0004sa-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:51:39 +0000 Received: from [134.58.240.41] (helo=nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18jhBi-0004s3-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:51:38 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6B41F31B2 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:51:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from antonius.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (antonius.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.73]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D24B61F3108 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:51:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (pc-10-33-165-177.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [10.33.165.177]) by antonius.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 723C24C0D0 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:51:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030214154446.02d25700@u0019445.kuleuven.be> X-Sender: u0019445@u0019445.kuleuven.be X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:59:13 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" In-reply-to: <18jKbP-0UPYMCC@fwd01.sul.t-online.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: KULeuven Anti-Virus Cluster Subject: Re: LF: EH-Antenna Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=6.0tests=IN_REP_TO,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello Bernd, group, I just had a look at the webpage, and as any other EH- (or CFA-) antennas that is claimed to work well it is at a respectable height above ground (based on the pictures I guess about 10m). Most likely the EH-antenna just acts as the funny looking top-hat of a vertical antenna. Scaling up the 160m version (1.5m long, 35cm diameter at 10m height) to 136kHz would result in a 20m long, almost 5m diameter construction at 130m above ground. I have no doubt that this would be a great 136kHz antenna ... assuming you can build such a construction. For 136kHz a 6m high, 2m diameter construction is proposed, let's say with the lower end 3m above ground. Downscaling that to the topband results in a 44cm high, 15cm diameter with the lower end at 22cm from the soil. I wonder if such an antenna would be worth anything (be sure to dig the coax in the soil to avoid that it radiates more than the antenna). 73, Rik ON7YD At 14:44 13/02/2003 +0000, you wrote: >Hi all, >for one who is interested in getting more practical information, there is >a URL: > >http://www.qsl.net/iz7ath/web/home_eng.htm > >where you can find some hints to build this antenna for 160 m. And >furthermore a lot of results in doing qsos with this type of >lowband-antenna. Talino (iz7ath) suggests 6m long cylindres/2m diameter >for 137 kHz. If the loss of efficiency will be abt. 10dB compared to a >fullsize-dipol(measured at 1.8MHz!) then it would be a hope for all >lowfers with large aereas and tolerant neighborhood :-)) >73 Bernd, DF8ZR From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19482 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2003 14:46:07 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Feb 2003 14:46:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 29045 invoked by uid 10001); 14 Feb 2003 14:45:59 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Feb 2003 14:45:59 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18jh5d-0004lg-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:45:21 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.47] (helo=mta7-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18jh5d-0004lX-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:45:21 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.232.169]) by mta7-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030214144520.TBTU19755.mta7-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:45:20 +0000 Message-ID: <001601c2d437$a2571120$a9e8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:41:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: OM2TW Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUPERLONG_LINE,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Good signal from OM2TW all afternoon each time I looked into the shack. If anyone around EU wants a report from me I can work any HF band but suggest 7030 khz. If there is any interest I will TX on there each time I see/hear 136 khz acty. ie work XBAND. 136/7030 khz.
I am chasing DX on other bands at present and not transmitting 73/136 khz but I can readjust the LF antenna if any DX that I have not worked before appears on 136 khz.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26267 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2003 14:45:58 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Feb 2003 14:45:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 15010 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2003 14:45:58 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Feb 2003 14:45:58 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18jh5j-0004lt-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:45:27 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.47] (helo=mta7-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18jh5e-0004lk-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:45:22 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.232.169]) by mta7-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030214144522.TBUL19755.mta7-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:45:22 +0000 Message-ID: <001701c2d437$a34b3520$a9e8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:44:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Spectrum Lab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ----- Original Message ----- From: "G4WGT" To: "Rsgb_Lf_Group" Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 7:23 PM Subject: LF: Spectrum Lab > Hi All, > > A few days ago I downloaded DL4YHF's Spectrum Lab V2.0 b6 compiled Jan 22 > 2003. I just downloaded Spec Lab and got version 1.08 from DL4YHF seems a bit odd hi I am very impressed with the application but on trying to do a screen > capture I get the following message in a square box with a red circle & > white cross in the corner. > > " INVALID PIXEL FORMAT" > > Does anyone know the reason & a cure for the problem ? > > Thanks > > 73 > > Gary G4WGT > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19450 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2003 14:27:06 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Feb 2003 14:27:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 5237 invoked by uid 10001); 14 Feb 2003 14:27:06 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Feb 2003 14:27:05 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18jgnK-0004c8-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:26:26 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.46] (helo=mta6-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18jgnJ-0004bz-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:26:25 +0000 Received: from ian ([62.252.204.195]) by mta6-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030214142624.UXSH21179.mta6-svc.business.ntl.com@ian> for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:26:24 +0000 Message-ID: <000101c2d435$29c61dc0$c3ccfc3e@ian> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E4CABF3.532F49A5@fh-amberg-weiden.de> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:27:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: QRSS Feb. 13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUBJECT_MONTH,SUBJECT_MONTH_2, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Tom, yes, good QSO last night and I shall return a card direct to when I receive yours. Agreed, F6BWO was the best signal, but I also failed to attract his attention! 73 de, Ian, GI8AYZ/MI0AYZ. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17447 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2003 14:08:10 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Feb 2003 14:08:10 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 13304 invoked by uid 10001); 14 Feb 2003 14:08:10 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Feb 2003 14:08:10 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18jgUL-0004Rk-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:06:49 +0000 Received: from [64.12.136.8] (helo=imo-m05.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18jgUK-0004RP-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:06:48 +0000 Received: from DL4YHF@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id l.1c9.51955e0 (3842) for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 09:06:10 -0500 (EST) From: DL4YHF@aol.com Message-ID: <1c9.51955e0.2b7e51d2@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 09:06:10 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 for Windows XP sub 50 Subject: LF: Virus Warning: CLEZ found in zipped PIFattachment Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=6.0tests=MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: ** X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear group,

I received a mail today with a *.PIF file attachment which contained the CLEZ virus.
Fortunately, due to NOT USING MS Outlook here, no harm was produced, and the anti virus software alerted me immediately.

The sender of the infected mail claimed to be "dl4yhf@aol.com" which is definitely not true. Maybe someone's PC with my address in the address list is infected so be alert.

The mail itself did not have any text body, and the title was "Don't drink so much beer" or something like that.

Regards,
 Wolf  DL4YHF. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8463 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2003 14:08:08 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Feb 2003 14:08:08 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 26328 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2003 14:08:07 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Feb 2003 14:08:07 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18jgUJ-0004RY-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:06:47 +0000 Received: from [64.12.136.7] (helo=imo-m04.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18jgUI-0004RO-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:06:46 +0000 Received: from DL4YHF@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id l.19b.10dece88 (3842) for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 09:06:09 -0500 (EST) From: DL4YHF@aol.com Message-ID: <19b.10dece88.2b7e51d1@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 09:06:09 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 for Windows XP sub 50 Subject: Re: LF: Spectrum Lab Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=6.0tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Gary,

Which type of windows are you using (W98, NT, or..) and what is the video mode (256 colors, "high color" (65k colors), or "true color") ? This would help to trace the bug.

I am using "true color" (32 bits per pixel) and there are no problems under Win98 or Win XP.

Regards,
Wolf DL4YHF. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9172 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2003 08:49:29 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Feb 2003 08:49:29 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 1741 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2003 08:49:29 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Feb 2003 08:49:29 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18jbT9-0003IB-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 08:45:15 +0000 Received: from [195.37.42.2] (helo=FHAMWEN.fh-amberg-weiden.de) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18jbT8-0003Gn-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 08:45:14 +0000 Received: from fh-amberg-weiden.de (kp.fh-amberg-weiden.de [195.37.42.59]) by FHAMWEN.fh-amberg-weiden.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id JAA18228 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 09:47:16 +0100 Message-ID: <3E4CABF3.532F49A5@fh-amberg-weiden.de> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 09:42:27 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6lpin_Thomas?= Organization: FH-Amberg-Weiden X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [de]C-CCK-MCD DT (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: QRSS Feb. 13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=6.0tests=NOSPAM_INC,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUBJECT_MONTH,SUBJECT_MONTH_2, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_XM,X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, minus 10 degrees centigrade and a wonderful starry night without any QRM bestowed me country no. 13 and 14! Many thanks to SM6BHZ, Bernt, 2210 UTC, OOO, always audible rst 539 and MI0AYZ, Ian, 2326 UTC, OOO, sometimes audible rst 519 QSLs are already posted to your qrz.com-addresses. Also seen: I5TGC, Cesare, abt 1700 UTC, this time only TTT (no call, I expected my XYL and wanted to prepare supper) and F6BWO, Jeff, abt 2200-2330 UTC, OOO, biggest signal on band, but we used to call simultanously - sri Jeff, cul! Vy 73, gl es cuagn de Tom, DK1IS www.qrz.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27159 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2003 23:23:00 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 23:23:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 8017 invoked by uid 10001); 13 Feb 2003 23:23:00 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 23:23:00 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18jSgj-0001gS-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 23:22:41 +0000 Received: from [212.1.130.143] (helo=smtp-1.visp.telinco.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18jSgj-0001gJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 23:22:41 +0000 Received: from [80.225.212.23] (helo=RSGB613192) by smtp-1.visp.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18jSeJ-0001SM-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 23:20:11 +0000 Message-ID: <001e01c2d3b6$dcee2b60$045bfea9@RSGB613192> From: "Andy talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <18jKbP-0UPYMCC@fwd01.sul.t-online.com> <200302131951.18651.valerio@dii.unisi.it> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 23:23:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: EH-Antenna Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false That's not fair - its much too big at lamda/10 ! A real scaled EH antenna for 10GHz would be more like 0.5mm high and 0.2mm diameter. Andy G4JNT >Here in Italy there is great interest around EH antenna for 40mt, 20mt and >also for 6mt, someone proposed (for joke) also a version for 10 Ghz only 3mm >length and 1mm diameter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7167 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2003 23:20:15 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 23:20:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 10068 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2003 23:20:15 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 23:20:15 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18jSdo-0001dW-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 23:19:40 +0000 Received: from [212.1.130.142] (helo=smtp-1.visp.telinco.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18jSdn-0001dN-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 23:19:39 +0000 Received: from [80.225.212.23] (helo=RSGB613192) by smtp-1.visp.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18jSbc-0004av-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 23:17:25 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01c2d3b6$70b1bc00$045bfea9@RSGB613192> From: "Andy talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1ee.1cfb5f1.2b7d3963@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 23:20:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: EH-Antenna Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Is there any evidence, anywhere, showing that one of these wonder antennas produces more gain than a conventional short monopole of the same height- and here's the important bit - given the same amount of metal. That metal could be buried radials, a fatter radiator or whatever, just not used to give extra height. Just curious A believer in simple Electromagnetics Andy G4JNT ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:09 PM Subject: Re: LF: EH-Antenna > In a message dated 2/13/03 9:46:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, > Bernd.Grupe@t-online.de writes: > > << If the loss of efficiency will be abt. 10dB compared to a > fullsize-dipol(measured at 1.8MHz!) then it would be a hope for all lowfers > with large aereas and tolerant neighborhood :-) >> > > I suppose it would, but we should remember that the comparison was not made > against a full size dipole. It was made against an electrically short > vertical, which would already be many dB down from a full size dipole. > > So far there is still no data anywhere in the world showing an EH antenna or > a CFA actually producing the same field strength as a properly working > quarter wave vertical or a full size dipole... let alone the greater > efficiencies claimed by their inventors. > > 73 > John Davis > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6895 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2003 22:28:49 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 22:28:49 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 10971 invoked by uid 10001); 13 Feb 2003 22:28:49 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 22:28:49 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18jRpY-0001Qa-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 22:27:44 +0000 Received: from [212.107.32.243] (helo=everyday.com) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18jRpX-0001QO-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 22:27:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 14880 invoked by uid 502); 13 Feb 2003 22:27:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO base) (213.213.8.99) by mail-fe76.tele2.ee with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 22:27:30 -0000 From: "valerio gabbani" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:51:18 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.1 References: <18jKbP-0UPYMCC@fwd01.sul.t-online.com> In-reply-to: <18jKbP-0UPYMCC@fwd01.sul.t-online.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <200302131951.18651.valerio@dii.unisi.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Subject: Re: LF: EH-Antenna Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.4 required=6.0tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT,USER_AGENT_KMAILversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false On Thursday 13 February 2003 15:44, bernd grupe wrote: > Hi all, > for one who is interested in getting more practical information, there is a > URL: > > http://www.qsl.net/iz7ath/web/home_eng.htm > > where you can find some hints to build this antenna for 160 m. And > furthermore a lot of results in doing qsos with this type of > lowband-antenna. Talino (iz7ath) suggests 6m long cylindres/2m diameter for > 137 kHz. If the loss of efficiency will be abt. 10dB compared to a > fullsize-dipol(measured at 1.8MHz!) then it would be a hope for all lowfers > with large aereas and tolerant neighborhood :-)) 73 Bernd, DF8ZR Bernd and all, I was interested in EH antenna for 137 kHz some time ago, because i haven't a tower 30mt high or more. I think EH fans claims are simply fool. Here in Italy there is great interest around EH antenna for 40mt, 20mt and also for 6mt, someone proposed (for joke) also a version for 10 Ghz only 3mm length and 1mm diameter. EH antenna radiate some power and it is possible to do QSO(mainly on 40-20 mt), but cable is part of the antenna, so no new phenomenon, only the old one. I know Talino's work, but its results seems to confirm the important role of the cable. So if you cannot go high, you can hope only to obtain an efficiency around 0.1%. '73 IK5ZPV (Valerio) From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11457 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2003 19:24:22 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 19:24:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 11171 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2003 19:24:15 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 19:24:15 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18jOx4-0000w4-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:23:18 +0000 Received: from [213.40.2.23] (helo=bodum.sout.netline.net.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18jOx4-0000vv-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:23:18 +0000 Received: from [213.40.206.169] (helo=tcs1) by bodum.sout.netline.net.uk with smtp (Exim 4.04) id 18jOw6-0003zq-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:22:19 +0000 From: "G4WGT" To: "Rsgb_Lf_Group" Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:23:14 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Subject: LF: Spectrum Lab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,TO_LOCALPART_EQ_REAL,USER_AGENT_OUTLOOKversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi All, A few days ago I downloaded DL4YHF's Spectrum Lab V2.0 b6 compiled Jan 22 2003. I am very impressed with the application but on trying to do a screen capture I get the following message in a square box with a red circle & white cross in the corner. " INVALID PIXEL FORMAT" Does anyone know the reason & a cure for the problem ? Thanks 73 Gary G4WGT --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29162 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2003 18:11:49 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 18:11:49 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 20151 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2003 18:11:35 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 18:11:34 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18jNof-0000fn-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:10:33 +0000 Received: from [64.12.136.164] (helo=imo-m09.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18jNod-0000fe-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:10:31 +0000 Received: from WarmSpgs@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id l.1ee.1cfb5f1 (4362) for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:09:40 -0500 (EST) From: WarmSpgs@aol.com Message-ID: <1ee.1cfb5f1.2b7d3963@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:09:39 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Subject: Re: LF: EH-Antenna Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false In a message dated 2/13/03 9:46:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, Bernd.Grupe@t-online.de writes: << If the loss of efficiency will be abt. 10dB compared to a fullsize-dipol(measured at 1.8MHz!) then it would be a hope for all lowfers with large aereas and tolerant neighborhood :-) >> I suppose it would, but we should remember that the comparison was not made against a full size dipole. It was made against an electrically short vertical, which would already be many dB down from a full size dipole. So far there is still no data anywhere in the world showing an EH antenna or a CFA actually producing the same field strength as a properly working quarter wave vertical or a full size dipole... let alone the greater efficiencies claimed by their inventors. 73 John Davis From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6831 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2003 17:50:05 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 17:50:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 4770 invoked by uid 10001); 13 Feb 2003 17:50:04 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 17:50:04 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18jNQt-0000YJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:45:59 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.46] (helo=mta06-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18jNQs-0000YA-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:45:58 +0000 Received: from smiley ([62.253.54.23]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030213174549.BBIJ4022.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@smiley> for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:45:49 +0000 Message-ID: <006301c2d387$c8bd73a0$fad5fea9@smiley> From: "tracey.gardner" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c2d37b$32e1eb60$50d1fc3e@l8p8y6> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:45:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 1154 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=6.0tests=HTML_FONT_COLOR_MAGENTA,MAILTO_LINK,REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUPERLONG_LINE,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi Mal
 
There's a complete 1154 on ebay at the moment if you fancy splashing out! :-)
 
Or you could have a word with www.radio-exports.com  or info@radio-exports.com who say that they have several 1154s in stock.
 
Tracey
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 4:15 PM
Subject: LF: 1154

Hi All
Does anyone by chance have any T1154 bits about their shacks that are not required. I got an old Jeep recently and want to refurbish it. Getting it ready for 500 khz LF !!! if/when it becomes available.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27087 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2003 16:59:34 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 16:59:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 8965 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2003 16:18:38 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 16:18:37 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18jM2N-00008E-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:16:35 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.47] (helo=mta7-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18jM2I-000084-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:16:30 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.209.80]) by mta7-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030213161629.POCB19755.mta7-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:16:29 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c2d37b$32e1eb60$50d1fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:15:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 1154 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUPERLONG_LINE,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi All
Does anyone by chance have any T1154 bits about their shacks that are not required. I got an old Jeep recently and want to refurbish it. Getting it ready for 500 khz LF !!! if/when it becomes available.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25736 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2003 14:45:38 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 14:45:38 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 15415 invoked by uid 10001); 13 Feb 2003 14:45:37 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 14:45:37 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18jKbc-0008CL-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:44:52 +0000 Received: from [194.25.134.18] (helo=mailout04.sul.t-online.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18jKbc-0008CC-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:44:52 +0000 Received: from fwd01.sul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18jKba-0001NR-0E; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:44:50 +0100 Received: from 192.168.6.2 (0607144537-0001@[217.225.201.253]) by fwd01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18jKbP-0UPYMCC; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:44:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "bernd grupe" To: "lf-group" X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 4.109 Date: 13 Feb 2003 14:44 GMT Message-ID: <18jKbP-0UPYMCC@fwd01.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0607144537-0001@t-dialin.net Subject: LF: EH-Antenna Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUPERLONG_LINE,USER_AGENT_TONLINEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, for one who is interested in getting more practical information, there is a URL: http://www.qsl.net/iz7ath/web/home_eng.htm where you can find some hints to build this antenna for 160 m. And furthermore a lot of results in doing qsos with this type of lowband-antenna. Talino (iz7ath) suggests 6m long cylindres/2m diameter for 137 kHz. If the loss of efficiency will be abt. 10dB compared to a fullsize-dipol(measured at 1.8MHz!) then it would be a hope for all lowfers with large aereas and tolerant neighborhood :-)) 73 Bernd, DF8ZR From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20275 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2003 12:15:53 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 12:15:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 23321 invoked by uid 10001); 13 Feb 2003 12:15:53 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 12:15:53 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18jIGJ-0007gJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 12:14:43 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.93] (helo=rhenium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18jIGJ-0007gA-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 12:14:43 +0000 Received: from host213-122-172-220.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.172.220] helo=Main) by rhenium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18jIGF-0004ds-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 12:14:39 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c2d359$96c5f120$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 12:14:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: new (?) station Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all I read a nice weak signal from SM1LCA today 449 whilst working ON6ND 1210z. I did hear SM1LCA before recently I think calling or being called by DL3FDO but not sufficiently well to copy the his call sign. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4488 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2003 08:07:25 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 08:07:25 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 16051 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2003 08:07:19 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 08:07:18 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18jEJB-0006qw-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 08:01:25 +0000 Received: from [195.37.42.2] (helo=FHAMWEN.fh-amberg-weiden.de) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18jEJA-0006qd-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 08:01:24 +0000 Received: from fh-amberg-weiden.de (kp.fh-amberg-weiden.de [195.37.42.59]) by FHAMWEN.fh-amberg-weiden.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id JAA18790 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:03:19 +0100 Message-ID: <3E4B502B.EF33D4BD@fh-amberg-weiden.de> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 08:58:35 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6lpin_Thomas?= Organization: FH-Amberg-Weiden X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [de]C-CCK-MCD DT (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c2d2c1$d81d11a0$c1e4fc3e@l8p8y6> Subject: Re: LF: DK1IS Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=6.0tests=CTYPE_JUST_HTML,NOSPAM_INC,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_XM,X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Thanks for the report, Mal!
The band was very quiet here, but unfortunately up to 2100 UTC no QSOs to be seen, too!

73 de Tom, DK1IS

hamilton mal schrieb:

DK1IS nice signal earlier on today on QRS 137.7 approx, observed visually while chasing DX on the other bands.73 de Mal/G3KEV 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19775 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2003 20:10:58 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Feb 2003 20:10:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 19155 invoked by uid 10001); 12 Feb 2003 20:10:57 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Feb 2003 20:10:56 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18j3Cp-00050P-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 20:10:07 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.44] (helo=mta4-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18j3Ck-00050G-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 20:10:02 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.232.53]) by mta4-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030212201001.TAQN29609.mta4-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 20:10:01 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c2d2d2$aa3a2e60$35e8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 20:09:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: MI0AYZ Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
    Hi Ian
Very strong a few mins ago on 137.7 khz qrs. Looks like you have got everyting optimised and working FB.
DK1IS active a short time ago but on FSK this time, good signal.
73 de Mal/G3KEV io94sh
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6421 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2003 18:11:46 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Feb 2003 18:11:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 22959 invoked by uid 10001); 12 Feb 2003 18:11:46 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Feb 2003 18:11:45 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18j1KO-0004WV-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 18:09:48 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.42] (helo=mta2-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18j1KI-0004WM-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 18:09:42 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.228.193]) by mta2-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030212180938.NQGR21072.mta2-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 18:09:38 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c2d2c1$d81d11a0$c1e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 18:08:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: DK1IS Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
DK1IS nice signal earlier on today on QRS 137.7 approx, observed visually while chasing DX on the other bands.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30006 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2003 14:49:02 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Feb 2003 14:49:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 3703 invoked by uid 10001); 12 Feb 2003 14:49:01 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Feb 2003 14:49:01 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18iy7I-0003fH-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:44:04 +0000 Received: from [80.68.3.204] (helo=relay.dx.ru) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18iy7G-0003f8-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:44:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 42549 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2003 16:01:42 +0300 Received: from ed.dx (10.0.1.11) by gw.dx with SMTP; 12 Feb 2003 16:01:42 +0300 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 17:43:20 +0300 From: "Ed Lesnichy" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <196171825272.20030212174320@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "Dave Pick" In-reply-to: <000901c2d298$27c55160$6507a8c0@Main> References: <000901c2d298$27c55160$6507a8c0@Main> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: 2-nd Rus LF DXpedition #1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=6.0tests=IN_REP_TO,NOSPAM_INC,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_THEBATversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello LF Group! #1 (1400z, 12 Feb, 2003) Our club RU6LWZ finishes preparation to 2-nd Rus LF DXpedition to the Asian Russia (UA9O). QTH-Loc MO94TK nr Novosibirsk. Prospective dates of work of expedition on 136kHz March, 12-16. We plan beacon tests and certainly first QSOs Asia - Europe (A/E QSO?). Let's work QRSS and CW, also we shall be QSX 136 /80/40. The sanction to work from 230m height mast is already received. TX ANT assuming to make similar to our Big Vertical on Machta TX - DDS, PA 100w RX - TS-850 + abt 2km Beverage Prospective team of expedition: Vlad UA6LV, Vic UA9OC, Ed RU6LA in Taganrog: Vic UA6LO, Serge UA6LFQ, Serge RZ6LG Info abt RU6LWZ's Life members on http://www.dx.ru/club/members.php 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20593 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2003 13:11:50 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Feb 2003 13:11:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 8305 invoked by uid 10001); 12 Feb 2003 13:11:48 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Feb 2003 13:11:47 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18iweo-0003Fu-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:10:34 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.81] (helo=tungsten.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18iwen-0003Fl-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:10:33 +0000 Received: from dial81-131-215-224.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.131.215.224] helo=Main) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18iwem-00001Z-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:10:32 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c2d298$27c55160$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:53:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Propagation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Laurence, I think you are right. Steve W3EEE site showed the best peak DCF39 levels for some days at 2300z and again between 0500 and 0630z. There is still a lot of deep fading but the period seems to be slowing. We may be in for better night-time levels by the weekend at this rate....if there are no more geomag storms. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12031 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2003 06:34:09 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Feb 2003 06:34:09 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 3295 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2003 06:34:10 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Feb 2003 06:34:10 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18iqOO-0001po-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 06:29:12 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.10] (helo=mailman1.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18iqON-0001pf-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 06:29:11 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman1.ppco.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h1C6T9qr005098 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 00:29:09 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 12 Feb 2003 00:29:07 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA12979 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 00:29:06 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 21:29:05 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 02/12/2003 12:29:07 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: 136 last night. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Conditions over/near and around the pole continue to improve; at 0600Z this morning 12th the northern norwegian bcast station on 153Khz was only averaging 20 dB down on what I saw on the 5/6th Jan. (good music!) Deep QSB is still evident - DCF49 on 128.93 (sic) still outshines DCF 39 on 139 by more than 3 dB though they trade QSB. BBCr4 is still battling against not so local NDB transmissions and Im still missing "sailing by"... Laurence KL1X Anchorage From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5106 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2003 22:47:57 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Feb 2003 22:47:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 9368 invoked by uid 10001); 11 Feb 2003 22:47:57 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Feb 2003 22:47:57 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ijBI-0000Ll-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:47:12 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.81] (helo=tungsten.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ijBI-0000Lc-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:47:12 +0000 Received: from host217-34-68-189.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.68.189] helo=dellboy) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18ijBH-000100-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:47:11 +0000 Message-ID: <002101c2d21f$aa393450$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001101c2d20b$600c7ea0$53d2fc3e@ian> Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:48:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 136 last night. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false You always know you're improving things when the aerial falls down when you key-up! Keep up the good work. Dave G3YXM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Kyle" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:21 PM Subject: LF: 136 last night. > Finnagle strikes again. > Apologies to anyone who called me last night and got no ack or who wondered > whose was the very thin signal on 137.68something. I put a few more tapping > points on the coil yesterday to improve matching but everything seemed to go > pearshaped thereafter. Only noticed this afternoon, after many hours of > hair-tearing, that one of the toploading wires had parted company and the > broken end was feeding the leylandii. This must have coincided with the > doing of the mods as everything was hunky-dory yesterday morning. > > Things look rather better tonight. > > 73, > > Ian GI8AYZ/MI0AYZ. > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20988 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2003 22:36:12 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Feb 2003 22:36:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 8789 invoked by uid 10001); 11 Feb 2003 22:36:12 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Feb 2003 22:36:12 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18iiz3-0000FX-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:34:33 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.46] (helo=mta6-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18iiz3-0000FO-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:34:33 +0000 Received: from ian ([62.252.205.85]) by mta6-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030211223427.UIFH21179.mta6-svc.business.ntl.com@ian> for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:34:27 +0000 Message-ID: <000501c2d21d$d51c9560$55cdfc3e@ian> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:34:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 136 tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.3 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,UPPERCASE_25_50,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: ** X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Good 'O' signals in QRSS3 here from SM6BHZ testing for the past hour or so. Ian GI8AYZ/MI0AYZ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23842 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2003 20:22:58 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Feb 2003 20:22:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 17141 invoked by uid 10001); 11 Feb 2003 20:22:58 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Feb 2003 20:22:58 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18igv9-0008Br-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 20:22:23 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.47] (helo=mta7-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18igv9-0008Bi-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 20:22:23 +0000 Received: from ian ([62.252.210.83]) by mta7-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030211202221.RBXT19755.mta7-svc.business.ntl.com@ian> for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 20:22:21 +0000 Message-ID: <001101c2d20b$600c7ea0$53d2fc3e@ian> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 20:21:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 136 last night. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Finnagle strikes again. Apologies to anyone who called me last night and got no ack or who wondered whose was the very thin signal on 137.68something. I put a few more tapping points on the coil yesterday to improve matching but everything seemed to go pearshaped thereafter. Only noticed this afternoon, after many hours of hair-tearing, that one of the toploading wires had parted company and the broken end was feeding the leylandii. This must have coincided with the doing of the mods as everything was hunky-dory yesterday morning. Things look rather better tonight. 73, Ian GI8AYZ/MI0AYZ. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19510 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2003 19:47:41 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Feb 2003 19:47:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 11421 invoked by uid 10001); 11 Feb 2003 19:47:41 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Feb 2003 19:47:41 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18igMJ-000824-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:46:23 +0000 Received: from [213.165.64.20] (helo=mail.gmx.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18igMI-00081o-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:46:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 5499 invoked by uid 0); 11 Feb 2003 19:45:49 -0000 Received: from Bd0f0.pppool.de (HELO computername) (213.7.208.240) by mail.gmx.net (mp016-rz3) with SMTP; 11 Feb 2003 19:45:49 -0000 Message-ID: <000201c2d206$2c354300$f0d007d5@computername> From: "Reiner Nabe" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000b01c2d036$1efe7840$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 22:33:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re. RU6LWZ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.1 required=6.0tests=DATE_IN_PAST_12_24,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 1:22 PM Subject: LF: Re. RU6LWZ? > Hi All, > On Friday at 2000UTC I heard the call RU6LWZ round about 136.8kHz.on CW at > rst349,at least I think this was the call,has anyone else heard this > station? > I also heard and identified S57A on CW about 339,but no contact. > 73 Laurie. > > Hallo, Laurie, yes it was RU6LWZ, hr in Germany nr Frankfurt good copy. S57A called G3.. G3 pse k, but not reply. He heard you in noise. 73 Reiner - DL3FDO - From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3893 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2003 18:53:14 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Feb 2003 18:53:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 2477 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2003 18:53:08 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Feb 2003 18:53:08 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ifWQ-0007mk-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 18:52:46 +0000 Received: from [193.212.240.200] (helo=virus-out.ttyl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ifWP-0007mb-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 18:52:45 +0000 Received: from [134.47.162.90] by virus-in.online.no with ESMTP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:52:14 +0100 Received: from tns-fbu-22-214.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.162.92]) by tns-fbu-22-208.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4453); Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:52:14 +0100 Received: from tns-fbu-22-212.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.162.91]) by tns-fbu-22-214.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4453); Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:52:14 +0100 Received: from TNS-FBU-2E-003.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.164.101]) by tns-fbu-22-212.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4453); Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:52:13 +0100 content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:52:13 +0100 Message-ID: <2D280BB697C7EE4C979C5C89925418EF1BF5B5@TNS-FBU-2E-003.corp.telenor.no> Thread-Topic: RE: G0MRF's class D transmitter for 136kHz (Radcom January) Thread-Index: AcLO5RIdFOGUhST+QIKIi6nmOslAxQDGOnuw From: jan-martin.noding@telenor.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Feb 2003 18:52:13.0992 (UTC) FILETIME=[B0EB8A80:01C2D1FE] MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: RE: RE: G0MRF's class D transmitter for 136kHz (Radcom January) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=6.0tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUBJECT_MONTH, SUBJECT_MONTH_2,SUPERLONG_LINEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Thanks, the reason for asking is that the article is translated and presented in Norwegian magazine "Amatör Radio" nr 2/2003, and I received some comments locally, also seems to be a mistake about a 0.07ohm resistor in a shortcircuit protection circuit, or perhaps it is only in the Norwegian translation(?), 0.7 ohm would have 7V voltage drop @10A - and would have to handle 70W power, hi !! 73 Jan-Martin mailto: LA8AK@online.no http://www.laud.no/la6nca/LA8AK/ (Reflecties door LA8AK) --- J M Nřding, Datakvalitet, TTS, Kristiansand Telefon 0047-380-52660, 9077-7126 (QTH: 0047-380-87178) -----Original Message----- From: G4WGT [mailto:g4wgt@talkgas.net] Sent: 7. februar 2003 21:00 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: G0MRF's class D transmitter for 136kHz (Radcom January) Hi Jan-Martin, I am also building G0MRF's 300 w Tx. The transmitter requires 24 volts for the varicap tuning and 12 volts for the rest of the circuit, the PA requires 36 or 45 volts (some explanations come in part 2 February Rad Com, Hugh M0WYE has given you some details in his reply), I have provided a 24 volt stabilised supply and from this a second regulator for the 12 volts, the 36 volts supply is unregulated, there are no specific details regarding power supplies in the articles, power supply options are left to the constructor. Let me know if you require any other info, if I can help I will. Regards es 73 Gary G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of jan-martin.noding@telenor.com Sent: 07 February 2003 11:34 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: G0MRF's class D transmitter for 136kHz (Radcom January) Supply voltage seems to be a somewhat obscure. Can somebody confirm if it is 12V? (...hope it is 48V) 73 Jan-Martin LA8AK@online.no --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21909 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2003 18:41:50 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Feb 2003 18:41:50 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 23108 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2003 18:41:52 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Feb 2003 18:41:52 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ifI8-0007h9-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 18:38:00 +0000 Received: from [64.12.136.7] (helo=imo-m04.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ifI8-0007gh-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 18:38:00 +0000 Received: from DL4YHF@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id l.ad.2a8662de (4004) for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 13:37:26 -0500 (EST) From: DL4YHF@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 13:37:25 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows XP DE sub 50 Subject: Re: LF: RX loop designs Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.3 required=6.0tests=DEAR_SOMEBODY,MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,NO_REAL_NAME, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_AOLversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: ** X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Arnie

Jim's article about LF RX loops is available from here:

http://members.aol.com/articles4lf/index.html

or from there (G3YXM's LF site):

http://www.picks.force9.co.uk/

Usually Dave's site has a better download bandwidth than AOL.

If everything fails, I can send the article to you via mail attachment. For now, all the best and good luck for all Cuban LF activities !

Regards,
 Wolf    DL4YHF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5418 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2003 15:48:04 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 11 Feb 2003 15:48:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 1930 invoked by uid 10001); 11 Feb 2003 15:47:58 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Feb 2003 15:47:58 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18icYL-00071C-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 15:42:33 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.47] (helo=mta7-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18icYK-000713-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 15:42:32 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.232.79]) by mta7-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030211154231.IWRY19755.mta7-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 15:42:31 +0000 Message-ID: <002301c2d1e4$206a9600$4fe8fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 15:30:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: QRS/QRG Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUPERLONG_LINE,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
    While operating QRS plus/minus 137.7 khz it might be better if everyone could get as close to the nominal freq of 137.7 khz instead of a large spread that has been happening recently. This is better for selectivity and avoids tuning around. This procedure works well on 135.922 khz transatlantic, stations closely spaced and all the activity can be seen at a glance in a narrow bandwidth.
My observations.
de Mal/G3KEV
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9406 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2003 23:14:04 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 10 Feb 2003 23:14:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 16468 invoked by uid 10001); 10 Feb 2003 23:14:03 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Feb 2003 23:14:03 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18iN6n-0004HJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 23:13:05 +0000 Received: from [206.49.67.1] (helo=mxb.etecsa.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18iN6j-0004H9-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 23:13:02 +0000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mxb.etecsa.net (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA24179 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:12:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from ppp-inforhc.pppn.etecsa.cu(10.10.0.2), claiming to be "user" via SMTP by mxb.etecsa.net, id smtpdAAA_oaOmV; Mon Feb 10 18:12:48 2003 Message-ID: <02f201c2d151$b06720e0$02000a0a@user> From: "Prof. Arnaldo Coro Antich" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <6a.2ce830a2.2b6d13f8@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:16:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: RX loop designs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=6.0tests=DEAR_SOMEBODY,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear amigo: Once you have obtained the.pdf file about the receiving loops for HF, would it be possible to mail them to me as an attachment ??? I am working towards building the first Cuba CO2 LF 136 kHz station, as I expect the band to be authorized for use by CO stations soon 73 and DX Arnie Coro CO2KK ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 8:13 AM Subject: Re: LF: RX loop designs > Dear Jim, > > > The article I have written is 5 pages, with several diagrams, and is a .pdf > file of about 340kB. It is too big for the reflector, but if you are > interested, let me know, and I will e-mail it to you as an attachment. > < > > > Yes please.... and if you agree, I will upload the article to my qsl.net > website. > > Regards, > Wolf DL4YHF > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10801 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2003 19:00:13 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 10 Feb 2003 19:00:13 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 19247 invoked by uid 10001); 10 Feb 2003 19:00:13 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Feb 2003 19:00:13 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18iJ9V-0003Zq-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:59:37 +0000 Received: from [212.35.226.183] (helo=k2.pncl.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18iJ9U-0003Ze-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:59:36 +0000 Received: from k7t.pncl.co.uk (64.235.35.212.in-addr.arpa.ip-pool.cix.co.uk [212.35.235.64]) by k2.pncl.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h1AIxRNO021677 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:59:30 GMT Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030210185727.00a40ec0@mail.pncl.co.uk> X-Sender: blanch@mail.pncl.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:58:57 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Walter Blanchard" In-reply-to: <001f01c2d107$0f65c7e0$ee9bfea9@oben> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: LOADINGCOILS Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080302020902060304080606" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.6 required=6.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080302020902060304080606 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit At 14:19 10/02/03 +0100, dj9dw wrote: >thanks for all the hints and advices concerning calculation of loadingcoils. >A great help. Now its up to me.... >73 de Peter, dj9dw Peter, The man who designed the Decca coils tells me he did it by reading the "green Terman" carefully. He says it's all in there. Walter G3JKV. --------------080302020902060304080606 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; name="ATT12161.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="ATT12161.txt" --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 21/01/03 --------------080302020902060304080606-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2444 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2003 18:13:50 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 10 Feb 2003 18:13:50 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 25414 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2003 18:13:45 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Feb 2003 18:13:45 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18iINc-0003OH-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:10:08 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.10] (helo=mailman1.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18iINb-0003O8-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:10:07 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman1.ppco.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h1AIA6qr003667 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:10:06 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:10:03 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28104 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:10:01 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 09:10:00 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 02/10/2003 12:10:02 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: re "strange" Propagation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Monday 1600Z Alan - transpolar LF signals back to Europe from here in Alaska continues to be very poor; DCF39 thru the night has averaged some 30-40dB down rf wise from the good conditions in the early part of January. The path, dependant of where the Au Oval is spends a lot of time/distance meandering in this zone on its way to you. I laugh when I see "no storms/normal" conditions on some of the prop report pages. If I see a PCA attenuation of >0.1dB on the IPS web pages I get my skiis out. Given this years weird weather/stratwarms I might as well get the golf clubs out here in Alaska. As its near 41F this morning and the snow has gone Im spending more time sitting in the shack listening to various forms and colors of noise.. I hate protons, especially the energetic types. Its going to be interesting when we get a 10MeV event, Im wondering if the Au Oval will be pulled so far south that even though the signal will be hit by greater PCA attenuation that because of the near right "angle" which signals propagate across the Au zone that signals may be better? I think I may have seen such whilst doing research in Northern VE8 back on March 13 1989....or was it 86 The German 77Khz is being similarly hit here, but W/E paths to Japan and Oz seem less affected. Laurence KL1X BP41 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13623 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2003 17:26:36 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 10 Feb 2003 17:26:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 16111 invoked by uid 10001); 10 Feb 2003 17:26:35 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Feb 2003 17:26:35 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18iHgL-0003DK-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:25:25 +0000 Received: from [80.68.3.204] (helo=relay.dx.ru) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18iHgK-0003DB-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:25:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 29351 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2003 18:43:04 +0300 Received: from ed.dx (10.0.1.11) by gw.dx with SMTP; 10 Feb 2003 18:43:04 +0300 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 20:24:31 +0300 From: "Ed Lesnichy" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <1818671775.20030210202431@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-to: <61866810264.20030207114640@dx.ru> References: <61866810264.20030207114640@dx.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: Feb 7-8 Report Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=6.0tests=IN_REP_TO,NOSPAM_INC,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, SUBJECT_MONTH,SUBJECT_MONTH_2,USER_AGENT_THEBATversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello LF_Group! FEB 7: 1940 - start (had problems with new DDS) CW - OK1DTN (again a magnificent signal!) DL2HRE(S6), OH1BS(6), OH1TN(7) and some UA, UR QSX QSOs High static QRM - very big wind(8-14 m/sec) , I think... Not RX OM2TW, DL3FDO and... in CW ;-(( QRSS - OM2TW(O), DK1IS(O), M0BMU(O) Saw a lot of weak QRSSs signals, but only Big M0BMU calling me in QRSS10 - O in QRS3 (I saw .715-.685 Hz windows only ;-(( abt 2300 - ~0300 QRS60 Beacon test ("RU6LA") 135.9223 (further again problems with new DDS - but it has found out only in the morning ;-(( FEB 8: 1515 Has seen DF6NM (O) in QSO with I5TCG. But already again I see as work with I5TCG, but I in any way shall not see him. The east at Cesare can is closed something? CW - OH1TN(S7), SM3UWS(6) nil OH0RJ and OM2TW ;-((( QRSS - DF6NM(O), G3YXM(O), S57A(M/O - first S5-UA QSO) AGN saw a lot of weak QRSSs signals... but not in QRSS10 ;-(( 2315 - 0600 QRS60 Beacon test ("RU6LA") 135.9223 (abt 0100 some DDS's problem) The equipment same as well as in my previous activites Ant TX - Big Vertical , PA - 40-60w Output (abt 3 Amp in ANT) RX - TS-850, Ant RX - 500m BV The first QSOs on LF (under RU6LWZ) were carried out by Serge RZ6LG. In CW we use RU6LWZ, and in QRSS RU6LA (I)- anybody any more does not have patience for long QRSS ;-)) On 160m did not hear W or VE - probably propagation was on NA absolutely bad. Again nobody has heard me in NA on 136 ;-(( Vlad UA6LV had fine QSOs on 160 and 80m with T31MY and some Pasifics and African, Central Am HAMs - propagation to West-South-East is fine (in KN97LN on 160/80m) TNX all who informed me about our signal through e-mail and a pager Let's meet all in our next LF UA6-activites and DXpedition ! 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20995 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2003 14:41:18 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 10 Feb 2003 14:41:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 11209 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2003 14:41:11 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Feb 2003 14:41:11 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18iF6f-0002cL-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:40:25 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.92] (helo=carbon.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18iF6f-0002cC-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:40:25 +0000 Received: from host213-122-213-188.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.213.188] helo=Main) by carbon.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18iF6d-00032z-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:40:24 +0000 Message-ID: <001e01c2d112$5603c7a0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:40:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: re "strange" Propagation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_01_02,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, Tom and Rich mentioned deep fading on relatively short path signals. This is I believe due to multipath destructive interference. The recent series of geomagnetic disturbances have caused a "precipitation" of high energy electrons to be injected into the D-layer. I believe that one and two hop signals or even ground wave and first hop are arriving at the Rx at nearly the same strength leading to very deep fades depending upon the phase difference. You can see the effect on the plots of the path from DCF39 to CT1DRP on my Propagation reports (see web site URL below). Overnight levels have been very poor (the first stage is increased absorption) we are probably moving into the second phase of recovery which is characterised by deep and often rapid fading. Over the next few nights the length of time between fades should increase, and in the final stage of the "return to normal" there may be some advantageous constructive interference peaks. Finally if there are no more geomagnetic disturbances the propagation will settle and change only slowly over the night-time period. this period of disruption began around 27th January, and is characterised by rises in the Kp index to 5 and 6. It will normally take from 10 to 14 days after the event for conditions to return to "normal". Treat with some skepticism the 6dB jump in daytime on the plot DCF39 of the 9th Jan. we are investigating that. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28747 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2003 13:20:55 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 10 Feb 2003 13:20:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 4131 invoked by uid 10001); 10 Feb 2003 13:20:51 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Feb 2003 13:20:51 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18iDqU-0002HW-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 13:19:38 +0000 Received: from [194.25.134.85] (helo=mailout11.sul.t-online.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18iDqU-0002HN-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 13:19:38 +0000 Received: from fwd07.sul.t-online.de by mailout11.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18iDqS-0003zL-0C; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:19:36 +0100 Received: from oben (520036610031-0001@[80.128.221.39]) by fwd07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18iDqI-19dVx2C; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:19:26 +0100 Message-ID: <001f01c2d107$0f65c7e0$ee9bfea9@oben> From: "dj9dw" To: "LF_group" Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:19:36 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Sender: 520036610031-0001@t-dialin.net Subject: LF: LOADINGCOILS X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit thanks for all the hints and advices concerning calculation of loadingcoils. A great help. Now its up to me.... 73 de Peter, dj9dw. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20778 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2003 12:41:40 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 10 Feb 2003 12:41:40 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 27974 invoked by uid 10001); 10 Feb 2003 12:41:39 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Feb 2003 12:41:39 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18iDEl-00024L-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:40:39 +0000 Received: from [213.218.77.55] (helo=cmailENV3.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18iDEk-00024C-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:40:39 +0000 Received: from [62.21.137.155] (helo=w8k3f0.freeler.nl) by cmailENV3.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18iDEj-0000Pu-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:40:38 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030210134513.009ebb70@POP3.freeler.nl> X-Sender: FRE0000086604@POP3.freeler.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 13:46:18 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Dick Rollema" In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20030206154057.00ac78f0@gemini.herts.ac.uk> References: <000c01c2cdf3$20d54530$ee9bfea9@oben> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Coil Calculation Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.1 required=6.0tests=BIG_FONT,DEAR_SOMEBODY,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Thanks Jim!

A very nice and useful program.

73. Dick, PA0SE

At 15:57 6-2-03 +0000, you wrote:
Dear Peter, LF group,

I have used a simple DOS program coil.exe (runs OK in windows DOS box) which can be downloaded as coil02.zip from http://www.moshier.net/coildoc.html
with reasonably accurate results for several types of coil. This implements one of several text-book formulae depending on what menu option you chose - it does loops, round and square solenoids, toroids etc. The Decca type basket-weave coil is probably best represented by a multi-layer circular solenoid (option 7). Don't forget to set the dimensions (option 11 - inches or cm).

Do not expect very accurate results with this type of coil - all the formulae ignore distributed capacitance, which makes L frequency dependent. Multi-layer coils are obviously susceptible to this, which makes the apparent inductance higher.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9233 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2003 12:31:05 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 10 Feb 2003 12:31:05 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 5619 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2003 12:30:58 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Feb 2003 12:30:53 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18iD1j-0001xu-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:27:11 +0000 Received: from [192.108.125.37] (helo=ns3.swh.sk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18iD1h-0001xl-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:27:10 +0000 Received: from hermes.swh.sk (hermes.swh.sk [192.108.125.60]) by ns3.swh.sk (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h1ACR4124524 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 13:27:04 +0100 Received: from btss101a.swh.sk (btss.swh.sk [139.24.136.15]) by hermes.swh.sk (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA17438 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 13:26:56 +0100 (MET) Received: by btss.swh.sk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <1GX2R52N>; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 13:26:54 +0100 Message-ID: <29BDD4F529FCD311B631009027357C4E04D6A0A7@btss103a.swh.sk> From: "Gasparik Richard" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 13:26:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Subject: LF: RE: R: 137.68 today. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=6.0tests=EXCHANGE_SERVER,MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi LF-ers... Very good activity during the last weekend. But what's strange, condx in my QTH. I never heard so deep QSB on LF. Friday 18.00 UTC - RU6LWZ 579, strong signal on CW 21.00 UTC - RU6LA "O" copy and audible S7 Saturday 17.00 UTC - RU6LWZ 559 on CW 19.00 UTC - RU6LA on QRSS is "O", weak audio 19.30 UTC - RU6LWZ on CW but nothing here !!! Later I saw RU6LA on QRSS, but his signal was not so strong on QRSS, weaker than normal. Not audible. In about 30 minutes he fall down from "O" to weak "M" !!!! G3YXM was audible at that time. S57A fall down to the deep nothing. I don't know what's happened, strange condx. 73 de Rich OM2TW -----Original Message----- From: cesare tagliabue [mailto:cestag@dada.it] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 3:45 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: R: 137.68 today. Hi Ian This morning here was a strange propagation, no stations were visible on waterfall, only S57A with a very strong signal, S9+. I've seen on cluster the spots for OM2TW and others, but nothing was on the screen hi. Thanks for calling me, hope in the future to have a QSO with you from GI. 73 es GL Cesare Cesare Tagliabue I 5 TGC WW-Loc JN53PS e-mail: cestag@dada.it url: http://dai5tgc.dadacasa.supereva.it -----Messaggio Originale----- Da: "Ian Kyle" A: Data invio: domenica 9 febbraio 2003 13.11 Oggetto: LF: 137.68 today. > HI Markus, > Many thanks for the nice QSO this morning. You were solid 'O' and good copy > in the ear. I did not look all over the band but there were several workable > signals around 137.7 including OM2TW and I5TGC. Called both without success, > but more antenna current is needed at this end! > > 73 de, > > Ian GI8AYZ/MI0AYZ > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25023 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2003 11:41:45 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 10 Feb 2003 11:41:45 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 26822 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2003 11:41:38 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Feb 2003 11:41:38 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18iCID-0001kr-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:40:09 +0000 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18iCIC-0001ki-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:40:08 +0000 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 18iCHh-0006mV-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:39:37 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18iCHf-00020m-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:39:36 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030210111905.00ac0508@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:39:34 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: <00d501c2d0f0$2ff1cf20$0504210a@c.scope> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: Re: LF: Loran Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=6.0tests=DEAR_SOMEBODY,IN_REP_TO,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear Hugh, LF Group, For an explanation of Loran C and other hyperbolic radio navigtion systems, take a look at http://webhome.idirect.com/~jproc/hyperbolic/ The Loran transmitters all operate on 100kHz, and transmit short pulses - this leads to the sidebands extending into the 136kHz bands. Usually, in SE England, you should be able to hear the rhythmic chattering sound under quiet band conditions at 136kHz - if not, you need to look into your RX sensitivity! The nearest TX is at Lessay on the french coast. Each Loran chain has a different pulse repetition frequency (GRI), so different parts of the world have different Loran lines. Because of the pulsed signal, the duty cycle is quite small, and the mean power is much less than the PEP. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28306 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2003 11:02:06 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 10 Feb 2003 11:02:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 12642 invoked by uid 10001); 10 Feb 2003 11:02:06 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Feb 2003 11:02:06 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18iBg9-0001aW-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:00:49 +0000 Received: from [212.159.3.230] (helo=guinness) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18iBg4-0001aN-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:00:44 +0000 Received: from [212.159.14.223] (helo=marstons.services.quay.plus.net) by guinness with smtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 18iBfO-00038Y-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:00:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 10181 invoked by uid 10001); 10 Feb 2003 10:36:33 -0000 Received: from ctuash.sonnetinternet.co.uk (HELO hugh) (212.159.90.113) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Feb 2003 10:36:33 -0000 Message-ID: <00d501c2d0f0$2ff1cf20$0504210a@c.scope> From: "Hugh M0WYE" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:35:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Loran Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Thanks John, for a very useful frequency list of Loran stations. They make quite good frequency markers - like radio graph paper. I wonder if anyone can answer my three questions ... 1. How does Loran work - or is it a closely guarded secret ? (perhaps there's a website that explains it somewhere ?) 2. Are there Loran transmitters in Europe, or do the lines that we see here (in the UK), emanate from the US ? 3. I see RADIATED PEAK POWER (kW) quoted, and another column mentions "coding", but there doesn't seem to be any modulation on the lines I see - are these transmitters running as much as 1400 kW ERP all the time - it seems an awful lot ? 73 Hugh M0WYE m0wye@thersgb.net From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27043 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2003 09:27:20 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 10 Feb 2003 09:27:20 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 21680 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2003 09:27:09 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Feb 2003 09:27:09 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18iA7e-0001D6-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 09:21:06 +0000 Received: from [195.37.42.2] (helo=FHAMWEN.fh-amberg-weiden.de) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18iA7d-0001Cx-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 09:21:06 +0000 Received: from fh-amberg-weiden.de (kp.fh-amberg-weiden.de [195.37.42.59]) by FHAMWEN.fh-amberg-weiden.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id KAA12802 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:22:41 +0100 Message-ID: <3E476E57.32BD89A4@fh-amberg-weiden.de> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:18:15 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6lpin_Thomas?= Organization: FH-Amberg-Weiden X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [de]C-CCK-MCD DT (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by FHAMWEN.fh-amberg-weiden.de id KAA12802 Subject: LF: S57A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=6.0tests=NOSPAM_INC,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_XM, X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello Boris, troughout the whole evening of Feb. 09 your signals on 137.68 kHz were perfectly OOO here in JN59WK. I called you several times but you didn´t hear me - so I wait for another chance. Vy 73 es cuagn Tom, DK1IS www.qrz.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14048 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2003 22:20:17 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 9 Feb 2003 22:20:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 24180 invoked by uid 10001); 9 Feb 2003 22:20:12 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Feb 2003 22:20:12 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18hzn8-0007cx-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 22:19:14 +0000 Received: from [212.1.130.1] (helo=smtp-1.visp.telinco.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18hzn8-0007co-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 22:19:14 +0000 Received: from [80.40.18.192] (helo=hughspc) by smtp-1.visp.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.32 #1) id 18hzXM-0001ha-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 22:02:57 +0000 Message-ID: <01ca01c2d089$2d3462a0$c0122850@hughspc> From: "Hugh" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 21:54:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: F6BWO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi, Nice signal from F6BWO received at M0WYE at 20:00 this evening (9th Feb) I couldn't see the station you were working, I got "...5TGC Also G3LDO and M0BMU storming in as usual ! 73 Hugh M0WYE JO01LE From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25705 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2003 21:57:08 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 9 Feb 2003 21:57:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 21139 invoked by uid 10001); 9 Feb 2003 21:57:08 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Feb 2003 21:57:08 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18hzQm-0007Uj-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 21:56:08 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.11] (helo=dc-mx01.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18hzQg-0007Ua-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 21:56:03 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx01.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 46163431; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 16:55:31 -0500 Message-ID: <002b01c2d086$09743140$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: lowfer@mailman.qth.net Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 21:56:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: North American Loran Line List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_03_05,SUBJECT_IS_LIST,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false With the kind help of John Davis, we have generated a list of the 4000+ Loran-C lines between 135.7 and 137.8 kHz that are generated by the 12 North American chains. Several versions of the list have been posted at: http://lwca.org/library/reference/index.htm For those with sufficient Internet pipes, I'd suggest looking at the "big" version, as it has built-in links to site information for the various chains. Smaller text-only versions are posted there, as well. This might be an item that you'd want to download and save locally for quick reference. John has agreed to keep the various versions on the LWCA site for the time being, but we may winnow out the lesser used alternatives later on. Please don't be discouraged by the number of lines. No one of us can see that many! The list may be useful in identifying some of the garbage you DO see, however. Enjoy. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6902 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2003 21:01:25 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 9 Feb 2003 21:01:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 22899 invoked by uid 10001); 9 Feb 2003 21:01:20 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Feb 2003 21:01:20 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18hyY4-0007Hu-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 20:59:36 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.46] (helo=mta6-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18hyXz-0007Hl-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 20:59:31 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.228.124]) by mta6-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030209205930.KFWO21179.mta6-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 20:59:30 +0000 Message-ID: <000001c2d07e$13351da0$7ce4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002601c2d034$67e91300$1fcdfc3e@ian> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 20:48:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: 137.68 today. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Kyle" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 12:11 PM Subject: LF: 137.68 today. > HI Markus, > Many thanks for the nice QSO this morning. You were solid 'O' and good copy > in the ear. I did not look all over the band but there were several workable > signals around 137.7 including OM2TW and I5TGC. Called both without success, > but more antenna current is needed at this end! > > 73 de, > > Ian GI8AYZ/MI0AYZ Hi Ian Good solid signal here this evening on QRS, lots of other acty also F6BWO, I5TGC and G3LDO at present. Have been QRL recently on other bands dxing, giving LF a rest. 73 cul de Mal/G3KEV > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 739 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2003 17:20:50 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 9 Feb 2003 17:20:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 6340 invoked by uid 10001); 9 Feb 2003 17:20:50 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Feb 2003 17:20:49 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18hv7P-0006az-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 17:19:51 +0000 Received: from [194.25.134.18] (helo=mailout04.sul.t-online.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18hv7O-0006aq-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 17:19:50 +0000 Received: from fwd10.sul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18hv7O-0005xn-01; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 18:19:50 +0100 Received: from oben (520036610031-0001@[217.226.121.27]) by fwd10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18hv7D-0BWP3oC; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 18:19:39 +0100 Message-ID: <005601c2d05f$707f0bc0$ee9bfea9@oben> From: "dj9dw" To: "LF_group" Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 18:19:44 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Sender: 520036610031-0001@t-dialin.net Subject: LF: Reflector X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hallo Wolf, war schon gluecklich, mehr Text als Hyroglyphen zu sehen. Im outlook-explorer bin ich auf reinem Text, mime deaktiviert, kein HTML und diesmal im subject eine Eintragung. So let´s see.... Derzeit empfange ich mit einer loop nach Gamal... zu viel noise, auch noch bei 20 Hz BW mit Siemens D2108. Baue jetzt noise-canceller und plane für den Sommer die Schirmantenne mit knapp 30 m, allerdings sind die untersten 19 m als Gittermast geerdet. Darüber effektiv 10m Glasfaserrohr. Werde den Vertikalteil zur Seite ziehen. Macht das Sinn? Die Ladespule, denke ich, sollte in ca. 10m sein, also ueber den Absorbern. Mit einem qso wird es also noch dauern. Vererst vy tnx fuer die Unterstützung es vy 73 de Peter, dj9dw. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29053 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2003 14:45:21 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 9 Feb 2003 14:45:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 18024 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2003 14:45:14 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Feb 2003 14:45:14 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18hsgs-0005uW-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 14:44:18 +0000 Received: from [195.110.100.4] (helo=mail.dada.it) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18hsgs-0005uN-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 14:44:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 29495 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2003 14:43:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cestag) (195.110.102.229) by mail.dada.it with SMTP; 9 Feb 2003 14:43:42 -0000 Message-ID: <001901c2d049$ddc8a760$e5666ec3@cestag> From: "cesare tagliabue" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002601c2d034$67e91300$1fcdfc3e@ian> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 15:45:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: R: 137.68 today. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Ian This morning here was a strange propagation, no stations were visible on waterfall, only S57A with a very strong signal, S9+. I've seen on cluster the spots for OM2TW and others, but nothing was on the screen hi. Thanks for calling me, hope in the future to have a QSO with you from GI. 73 es GL Cesare Cesare Tagliabue I 5 TGC WW-Loc JN53PS e-mail: cestag@dada.it url: http://dai5tgc.dadacasa.supereva.it -----Messaggio Originale----- Da: "Ian Kyle" A: Data invio: domenica 9 febbraio 2003 13.11 Oggetto: LF: 137.68 today. > HI Markus, > Many thanks for the nice QSO this morning. You were solid 'O' and good copy > in the ear. I did not look all over the band but there were several workable > signals around 137.7 including OM2TW and I5TGC. Called both without success, > but more antenna current is needed at this end! > > 73 de, > > Ian GI8AYZ/MI0AYZ > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21622 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2003 14:02:42 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 9 Feb 2003 14:02:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 9796 invoked by uid 10001); 9 Feb 2003 14:02:42 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Feb 2003 14:02:42 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18hs1Z-0005lE-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 14:01:37 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.26] (helo=mx16.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18hs1Y-0005l5-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 14:01:37 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by mx16.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 34587790 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 09:01:05 -0500 Message-ID: <002101c2d043$c6bda9e0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <14a.1b867631.2b77804e@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 14:01:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: 135.922, QSO's Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Markus, et al: Tnx for the RU6LA frequency tip, but nothing was seen here on either night. John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2353 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2003 12:14:11 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 9 Feb 2003 12:14:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 2643 invoked by uid 10001); 9 Feb 2003 12:14:11 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Feb 2003 12:14:11 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18hqL1-0005LR-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 12:13:35 +0000 Received: from [195.92.195.173] (helo=cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18hqL1-0005LG-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 12:13:35 +0000 Received: from modem-22.pennsylvania.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.89.22] helo=f3a3a2) by cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18hqL0-0007kn-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 12:13:34 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c2d036$1efe7840$ea00a8c0@f3a3a2> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 12:22:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re. RU6LWZ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi All, On Friday at 2000UTC I heard the call RU6LWZ round about 136.8kHz.on CW at rst349,at least I think this was the call,has anyone else heard this station? I also heard and identified S57A on CW about 339,but no contact. 73 Laurie. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13766 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2003 12:12:02 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 9 Feb 2003 12:12:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 25514 invoked by uid 10001); 9 Feb 2003 12:12:02 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Feb 2003 12:12:02 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18hqIe-0005E3-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 12:11:08 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.42] (helo=mta2-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18hqId-0005Du-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 12:11:07 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.228.74]) by mta2-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030209121105.JTTH21072.mta2-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 12:11:05 +0000 Message-ID: <002d01c2d034$4167e580$4ae4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.2.20030209081417.00a39ec0@mail.pncl.co.uk> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 12:10:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: xtals Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.9 required=6.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,MAILTO_LINK,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, SUPERLONG_LINE,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: LF: xtals

At 20:12 08/02/03 +0000, G3KEV wrote:

I have a Decca Marine RX, comprising 3 units and a Display unit all tube construciton. Two of the units have lots of high stab xtals. These xtals are glass encapsulated and gold plated construction. Does anyone know the frequency of these xtals, the freqs are not marked on the xtals, each xtal is enclosed in a metal can and marked GEC and other ref numbers. These look promising for other LF work.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 

Should be receiver unit, power unit, and display unit. Display should have three or four circular meters.
Give me the receiver type number - it'll be on a plate somewhere - and I'll tell you exactly what the xtals are.
Almost certainly they're for the Decca freqs - 71, 85, 113 and 127 kHz.

Walter G3JKV.
Hello Walter and tnx ur msg.
 
The system is a Decca  MK 12 consul and the rx chassis with the xtals is marked OSCILLATOR CHASSIS C9340/G
VCOB-1 TO VC9B-1 There is a total of 21 xtals on this chassis, selectable with a motor driven rotary switch.
Xtals are GEC quartz crystal unit
one example is marked part no 9340x 8e, they all have numbers but no frequency marks.
Perhaps you know the exact freqs of the range. They might be useful for LF osc work, to pull on freq around 73 and 136 khz or hetrodyne with a vfo etc.
73 agn tnx de Mal/G3KEV



 


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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7449 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2003 12:12:00 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 9 Feb 2003 12:12:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 28188 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2003 12:12:01 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Feb 2003 12:12:01 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18hqIj-0005EG-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 12:11:13 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.47] (helo=mta7-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18hqIi-0005E7-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 12:11:12 +0000 Received: from ian ([62.252.205.31]) by mta7-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030209121111.ZMKP19755.mta7-svc.business.ntl.com@ian> for ; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 12:11:11 +0000 Message-ID: <002601c2d034$67e91300$1fcdfc3e@ian> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 12:11:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 137.68 today. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false HI Markus, Many thanks for the nice QSO this morning. You were solid 'O' and good copy in the ear. I did not look all over the band but there were several workable signals around 137.7 including OM2TW and I5TGC. Called both without success, but more antenna current is needed at this end! 73 de, Ian GI8AYZ/MI0AYZ From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31608 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2003 11:25:32 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 9 Feb 2003 11:25:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 751 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2003 11:25:28 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Feb 2003 11:25:27 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18hpYh-00050N-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 11:23:39 +0000 Received: from [212.135.6.11] (helo=smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18hpYg-00050E-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 11:23:38 +0000 Received: from tnt-2-188.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.196.188] helo=erica) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18hoiv-000BQu-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 10:30:09 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01c2d026$a6ca36c0$bcc428c3@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000901c2cfb1$132be500$6507a8c0@Main> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 10:32:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: S57A "O" on QRSS3 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010504040404070309070105" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010504040404070309070105 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Alan said: > Hi all, I copied a very readable CQ from S57A at 2028z aroun 137.670kHz > despite a lot of local noise. Alerted by Alan's e-mail on the reflector I found S57A calling CQ R 'O'. I went back to him and got an 'O' report, see attachment. However I don't think that he got my report so not a complete QSO. 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(212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 9 Feb 2003 10:35:29 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 5521 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2003 10:35:30 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Feb 2003 10:35:30 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18honL-0004pb-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 10:34:43 +0000 Received: from [152.163.225.100] (helo=imo-r04.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18honK-0004pS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 10:34:42 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id l.f7.2851e89e (30970) for ; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 05:34:09 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 05:34:09 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows DE sub 10607 Subject: Re: LF: QSO's Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=6.0tests=MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02,USER_AGENT_AOLversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit > Despite moderate propagation, I enjoyed nice QSO's yesterday with Cesare I5TGC,
> Ed RU6LA, and for the first time with Teo, YU7AR and Boris, S57A. Many thanks to
> all of you!

... and of course to Rich, OM2TW - hmm, that was before 10 AM, me still half asleep ;-)
Markus


 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24674 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2003 10:00:40 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 9 Feb 2003 10:00:40 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 15463 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2003 10:00:29 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Feb 2003 10:00:28 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18hoF3-0004eb-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 09:59:17 +0000 Received: from [205.188.157.39] (helo=imo-d07.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18hoF2-0004eS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 09:59:16 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id l.14a.1b867631 (3850) for ; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 04:58:38 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <14a.1b867631.2b77804e@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 04:58:38 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows DE sub 10607 Subject: Re: LF: 135.922, QSO's Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010005090402010406070804" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=6.0tests=MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, USER_AGENT_AOLversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010005090402010406070804 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi John and group,

yes, RU6LA was active around 135922.3 until abt 06:00UT. The overnight directional spectrogram (135770-136084Hz at 2.71Hz/pix, 00:05-08:04UT at 30s/pix) also shows SXV's modulation sidebands (bottom, orange) and the TX-IMP of DCF42's pilot and DCF49's FSK-burst space frequency (136.04kHz, blue). Fadeout of RU6LA occured around 05:00, half an hour earlier than SXV, and sunrise was about 07:00 here.

Despite moderate propagation, I enjoyed nice QSO's yesterday with Cesare I5TGC, Ed RU6LA, and for the first time with Teo, YU7AR and Boris, S57A. Many thanks to all of you!

73 and all the best

Markus, DF6NM


> I'll be watching the 135.922 region again tonight. Can anyone confirm that
> RU6LA is on 922.5?
> John Andrews, W1TAG
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08:23:55 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18hmgJ-0004EB-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 08:19:19 +0000 Received: from [212.35.226.183] (helo=k2.pncl.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18hmgI-0004E2-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 08:19:18 +0000 Received: from k7t.pncl.co.uk (52.234.35.212.in-addr.arpa.ip-pool.cix.co.uk [212.35.234.52]) by k2.pncl.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h198JGtE014286 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 08:19:17 GMT Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030209081417.00a39ec0@mail.pncl.co.uk> X-Sender: blanch@mail.pncl.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 08:19:52 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Walter Blanchard" In-reply-to: <004401c2cfaf$71996560$d2e9fc3e@l8p8y6> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: xtals Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060701040708080802020207" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.6 required=6.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060701040708080802020207 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit At 20:12 08/02/03 +0000, G3KEV wrote:

I have a Decca Marine RX, comprising 3 units and a Display unit all tube construciton. Two of the units have lots of high stab xtals. These xtals are glass encapsulated and gold plated construction. Does anyone know the frequency of these xtals, the freqs are not marked on the xtals, each xtal is enclosed in a metal can and marked GEC and other ref numbers. These look promising for other LF work.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 

Should be receiver unit, power unit, and display unit. Display should have three or four circular meters.
Give me the receiver type number - it'll be on a plate somewhere - and I'll tell you exactly what the xtals are.
Almost certainly they're for the Decca freqs - 71, 85, 113 and 127 kHz.

Walter G3JKV.



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Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 21/01/03 --------------060701040708080802020207-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20786 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2003 23:25:31 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 8 Feb 2003 23:25:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 23830 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2003 23:25:25 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Feb 2003 23:25:25 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18heLO-0000v1-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2003 23:25:10 +0000 Received: from [209.225.8.20] (helo=dc-mx10.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18heLO-0000up-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2003 23:25:10 +0000 Received: from [66.189.48.230] (HELO johncellarnew) by dc-mx10.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 67444242 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2003 18:24:38 -0500 Message-ID: <003c01c2cfc9$56277dc0$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000501c2cfc8$888f59a0$39d0fc3e@ian> Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 23:25:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: 135.922 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I'll be watching the 135.922 region again tonight. Can anyone confirm that RU6LA is on 922.5? John Andrews, W1TAG From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19247 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2003 23:20:16 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 8 Feb 2003 23:20:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 20257 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2003 23:20:05 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Feb 2003 23:20:05 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18heFT-0000ru-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2003 23:19:03 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.44] (helo=mta4-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18heFT-0000rl-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2003 23:19:03 +0000 Received: from ian ([62.252.208.57]) by mta4-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030208231902.XFLC29609.mta4-svc.business.ntl.com@ian> for ; Sat, 8 Feb 2003 23:19:02 +0000 Message-ID: <000501c2cfc8$888f59a0$39d0fc3e@ian> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 22:32:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: activity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Back into the shack and in business again - at least for a while. RU6LA and S57AM good signals QRSS and copiable aurally between 2100 & 2230 here. Called both but no luck with only 1A into the antenna. Still having difficulties with 136 even though the apparent anomalies have been traced to one measurement and two calculations worthy of Bergholt Stuttley Johnson at his most cavalier. (From this comment my taste in light reading may be readily deduced!). Still hoping for a few more QSOs on 73KHz. Ian MI0AYZ. 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I have a Decca Marine RX, comprising 3 units and a Display unit all tube construciton. Two of the units have lots of high stab xtals. These xtals are glass encapsulated and gold plated construction. Does anyone know the frequency of these xtals, the freqs are not marked on the xtals, each xtal is enclosed in a metal can and marked GEC and other ref numbers. These look promising for other LF work.
73 de Mal/G3KEV
 
 
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Sat, 08 Feb 2003 13:38:15 +0000 Received: from dial81-135-72-94.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([81.135.72.94] helo=Main) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18hVBN-0003nm-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2003 13:38:14 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c2cf77$3e334340$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 13:37:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Propagation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_02_03,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, I have attempted to drag myself out of hibernation, and I have the new plots from Brian CT1DRP on my web site. I will hope to update this regularly (daily?) again. I have no excuse as Brian has set up an excellent system for automatically posting the data to me. You will notice that in the rebuild, the levels on the plots have changed somewhat. This is due to tuning DCF39 into the passband. You will find there is a 17.5dB difference from the older plots, but the "benchmark" average line based on 20 days of September 2001 has been adjusted. So above the line is good and below poor. All of the January plots (.GIF files) are available as a zipped file (140kB) on my web site "programs area" as a file download. http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/programs.htm The link from the "hot button" on Daves G3YXM's site is still active. I hope soon to have some more data comparing Brian's plots with Steve and Dexter's. The present poor night-time conditions are evident on all the plots. Dexters real-time plots for last night show the DCF39 levels he receives as down by nearly 20dB on the "good" nights in mid-January. Present poor night-time conditions are expected to last another week or so. (sorry Ed !!) Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 666 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2003 11:15:20 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 8 Feb 2003 11:15:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 21181 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2003 11:15:14 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Feb 2003 11:15:14 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18hSv7-0006d8-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2003 11:13:17 +0000 Received: from [194.25.134.20] (helo=mailout08.sul.t-online.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18hSv7-0006cz-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2003 11:13:17 +0000 Received: from fwd00.sul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18hSv6-00027N-08; Sat, 08 Feb 2003 12:13:16 +0100 Received: from oben (520036610031-0001@[217.224.18.5]) by fwd00.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18hSv4-2JucwiC; Sat, 8 Feb 2003 12:13:14 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01c2cf63$146fac10$ee9bfea9@oben> From: "dj9dw" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 12:13:16 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Sender: 520036610031-0001@t-dialin.net Subject: LF: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUBJ_MISSING,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit tnx, Wolf, another try 73 de dj9dw, Peter From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12524 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2003 10:52:26 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 8 Feb 2003 10:52:26 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 29015 invoked by uid 10001); 8 Feb 2003 10:52:26 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Feb 2003 10:52:26 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18hSYU-0006Vk-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2003 10:49:54 +0000 Received: from [152.163.225.100] (helo=imo-r04.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18hSYS-0006Vb-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2003 10:49:52 +0000 Received: from DL4YHF@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id l.121.1e1d66de (4592) for ; Sat, 8 Feb 2003 05:49:19 -0500 (EST) From: DL4YHF@aol.com Message-ID: <121.1e1d66de.2b763aae@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 05:49:18 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows XP DE sub 50 Subject: Re: LF: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=6.0tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_AOLversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Yes, plain text now.
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From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5842 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2003 08:13:51 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 8 Feb 2003 08:13:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 1004 invoked by uid 10001); 8 Feb 2003 08:13:50 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Feb 2003 08:13:50 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18hQ33-00060K-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2003 08:09:17 +0000 Received: from [194.25.134.82] (helo=mailout05.sul.t-online.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18hQ33-00060B-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2003 08:09:17 +0000 Received: from fwd01.sul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18hQ33-0005zh-03; Sat, 08 Feb 2003 09:09:17 +0100 Received: from oben (520036610031-0001@[217.226.113.17]) by fwd01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18hQ2q-1M3StMC; Sat, 8 Feb 2003 09:09:04 +0100 Message-ID: <001c01c2cf49$591bc6b0$ee9bfea9@oben> From: "dj9dw" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 09:09:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Sender: 520036610031-0001@t-dialin.net Subject: LF: Content-Type: text/plain;charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUBJ_MISSING,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false no msg. plain text. dj9dw. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18529 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2003 22:14:40 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 7 Feb 2003 22:14:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 5019 invoked by uid 10001); 7 Feb 2003 22:14:40 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Feb 2003 22:14:39 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18hGkb-0003rb-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2003 22:13:37 +0000 Received: from [212.135.6.10] (helo=smarthost0.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18hGkb-0003rS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2003 22:13:37 +0000 Received: from tnt-2-144.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.196.144] helo=erica) by smarthost0.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18hGkY-000Btv-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2003 22:13:36 +0000 Message-ID: <000001c2cef6$931b1ee0$90c428c3@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E3E77B7.80C9980C@fh-amberg-weiden.de> <18gYXv-1lhgiuC@fwd09.sul.t-online.com> <004901c2cdb7$a48fec40$55cce150@hughspc> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:19:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: who was it Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=DATE_IN_PAST_24_48,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_03_05,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Hugh > I was in QSO with Jim, M0BMU at that time. I expect what you saw was Jim > sending something like "so 73 Hugh sk" > I doubt that you would have seen my transmissions, as I was running about > 30W, antenna current of 0.25A to a small Marconi "T" (only 7 metres high > vertical) Your signals were R 'O' last night when in QSO with Jim in spite of the high QRN level Regards, Peter, G3LDO e-mail Web From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32297 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2003 20:04:18 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 7 Feb 2003 20:04:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 23570 invoked by uid 10001); 7 Feb 2003 20:04:14 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Feb 2003 20:04:13 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18hEey-0003HZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2003 19:59:40 +0000 Received: from [213.40.2.14] (helo=gourd.sout.netline.net.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18hEex-0003HB-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2003 19:59:39 +0000 Received: from [213.40.202.208] (helo=tcs1) by gourd.sout.netline.net.uk with smtp (Exim 4.04) id 18hEeR-0002C9-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2003 19:59:07 +0000 From: "G4WGT" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 19:59:49 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-reply-to: <2D280BB697C7EE4C979C5C89925418EFB05ADF@TNS-FBU-2E-003.corp.telenor.no> Importance: Normal Subject: LF: RE: G0MRF's class D transmitter for 136kHz (Radcom January) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.3 required=6.0tests=IN_REP_TO,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02,SUBJECT_MONTH,SUBJECT_MONTH_2, USER_AGENT_OUTLOOKversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Jan-Martin, I am also building G0MRF's 300 w Tx. The transmitter requires 24 volts for the varicap tuning and 12 volts for the rest of the circuit, the PA requires 36 or 45 volts (some explanations come in part 2 February Rad Com, Hugh M0WYE has given you some details in his reply), I have provided a 24 volt stabilised supply and from this a second regulator for the 12 volts, the 36 volts supply is unregulated, there are no specific details regarding power supplies in the articles, power supply options are left to the constructor. Let me know if you require any other info, if I can help I will. Regards es 73 Gary G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of jan-martin.noding@telenor.com Sent: 07 February 2003 11:34 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: G0MRF's class D transmitter for 136kHz (Radcom January) Supply voltage seems to be a somewhat obscure. Can somebody confirm if it is 12V? (...hope it is 48V) 73 Jan-Martin LA8AK@online.no --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16090 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2003 16:33:45 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 7 Feb 2003 16:33:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 20631 invoked by uid 10001); 7 Feb 2003 16:33:44 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Feb 2003 16:33:44 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18hBPw-0002Qf-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2003 16:31:56 +0000 Received: from [200.230.104.196] (helo=magicsite.magichosting.com.br) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18hBPv-0002QW-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2003 16:31:55 +0000 Received: from Marcus (unverified [200.192.7.22]) by magicsite.magichosting.com.br (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with SMTP id ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 14:37:47 -0800 Message-ID: <002001c2cecf$323b62a0$4f01a8c0@gigacom.com.br> From: "PY2PLL" To: Ndblist@beaconworld.co.uk, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <004001c2cbf3$8adcc1d0$62c37643@ko6bb> <001101c2cec4$6848ab60$1ed745c2@oemcomputer> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 14:34:38 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: EKV 13 Receiver Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=6.0tests=MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi ... Does anybody have or uses an EKV 13 receiver (from RFT, DDR)??? It covers from 14KHz to 30MHz, with diversity antenna switch and RTTY/FSK demodulator built in. Seven IF BW from 150Hz to 6KHz. I brought one ... and actually I´m restoring it. I would like to exange some information about it. 73 Marcus PY3CRX/PY2PLL http://py.qsl.br Active from "DC" to Laser ... From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25933 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2003 12:58:20 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 7 Feb 2003 12:58:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 19154 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2003 12:58:15 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Feb 2003 12:58:15 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18h84J-0001Vl-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2003 12:57:23 +0000 Received: from [212.159.14.225] (helo=murphys.services.quay.plus.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18h84J-0001VV-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2003 12:57:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 17511 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2003 12:56:48 -0000 Received: from ctuash.sonnetinternet.co.uk (HELO hugh) (212.159.90.113) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Feb 2003 12:56:48 -0000 Message-ID: <000401c2cea8$4acef560$0504210a@c.scope> From: "Hugh M0WYE" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <2D280BB697C7EE4C979C5C89925418EFB05ADF@TNS-FBU-2E-003.corp.telenor.no> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:56:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: G0MRF's class D transmitter for 136kHz (Radcom January) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUBJECT_MONTH,SUBJECT_MONTH_2, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Jan-Martin, Yes I had to look carefully to find details of the power supply (I thought the transformer in the picture definately wasn't 300VA !) On page 65 (column3) in the February issue, it talks about different number of turns on T2 for supply voltages between 36 and 45 Volts. "The current trip should be set for 10-11A with a supply of 36V, but if you're using a higher voltage supply, then the trip should be arranged to cut in at 400W DC input. At 45V supply this equals 8.9A..." Maybe there will be a follow up article to describe a suitable PSU. 73 Hugh M0WYE ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 11:34 AM Subject: LF: G0MRF's class D transmitter for 136kHz (Radcom January) > Supply voltage seems to be a somewhat obscure. > Can somebody confirm if it is 12V? (...hope it is 48V) > > > 73 Jan-Martin > LA8AK@online.no > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11166 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2003 11:35:55 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 7 Feb 2003 11:35:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 27482 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2003 11:35:55 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Feb 2003 11:35:55 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18h6mb-00018m-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2003 11:35:01 +0000 Received: from [193.212.240.200] (helo=virus-in.online.no) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18h6ma-00018b-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2003 11:35:01 +0000 Received: from [134.47.162.90] by virus-in.online.no with ESMTP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:34:24 +0100 Received: from tns-fbu-22-214.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.162.92]) by tns-fbu-22-208.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4453); Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:34:28 +0100 Received: from tns-fbu-22-213.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.162.191]) by tns-fbu-22-214.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4453); Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:34:27 +0100 Received: from TNS-FBU-2E-003.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.164.101]) by tns-fbu-22-213.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4453); Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:34:27 +0100 content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:34:27 +0100 Message-ID: <2D280BB697C7EE4C979C5C89925418EFB05ADF@TNS-FBU-2E-003.corp.telenor.no> Thread-Topic: RE: Re: "Decca-type" coils Thread-Index: AcLOALIaLYTE9K8NQRycA8Wb6geegAAm8UPw From: jan-martin.noding@telenor.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Feb 2003 11:34:27.0801 (UTC) FILETIME=[DF65DC90:01C2CE9C] MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: G0MRF's class D transmitter for 136kHz (Radcom January) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=6.0tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUBJECT_MONTH, SUBJECT_MONTH_2version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Supply voltage seems to be a somewhat obscure. Can somebody confirm if it is 12V? (...hope it is 48V) 73 Jan-Martin LA8AK@online.no From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24008 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2003 08:52:11 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 7 Feb 2003 08:52:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 26556 invoked by uid 10001); 7 Feb 2003 08:52:06 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Feb 2003 08:52:06 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18h4A6-0000Lb-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2003 08:47:06 +0000 Received: from [80.68.3.204] (helo=relay.dx.ru) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18h4A5-0000LS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2003 08:47:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 28227 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2003 10:04:47 +0300 Received: from ed.dx (10.0.1.11) by gw.dx with SMTP; 7 Feb 2003 10:04:47 +0300 Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 11:46:40 +0300 From: "Ed Lesnichy" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <61866810264.20030207114640@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "Dave Pick" In-reply-to: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: Feb 7-8 UA6 activity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=6.0tests=IN_REP_TO,NOSPAM_INC,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, SUBJECT_MONTH,SUBJECT_MONTH_2,USER_AGENT_THEBATversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello LF_Group! I am planning to be active from Machta (KN97LN) Feb 7-9 The prospective time-table of my activity on LF on days and on hours (time in UTC): FEB 7: 1700 - 2300 QRS3 137.700 or CW 136.6 2300 - 0500 QRS60 Beacon test ("RU6LA") 135.9225 FEB 8: 1600 - 2300 QRS3 137.700 or CW 136.6 2300 - 0500 QRS60 Beacon test ("RU6LA") 135.9225 OFF Special attention I shall give CW I have a DX-cluster. Also it is possible to inform me abt Report to pager(all time with me) via e-mail: e-mail: vesso@crypt.rnd.ru Subject: 29600 In body: text The equipment same as well as in my previous activites Ant TX - Big Vertical , PA - 40/100w Output, TS-850, Ant RX - 1km BV 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9226 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2003 22:20:14 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 6 Feb 2003 22:20:14 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 20058 invoked by uid 10001); 6 Feb 2003 22:20:14 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Feb 2003 22:20:14 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18guM3-0006YA-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 22:18:47 +0000 Received: from [205.188.157.37] (helo=imo-d05.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18guLy-0006Y1-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 22:18:42 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id l.a9.3862e6cb (30970) for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:18:02 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:18:02 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows DE sub 10607 Subject: LF: DL - S5 QSO Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.7 required=6.0tests=MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS,USER_AGENT_AOLversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: ** X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi group,

a (probably) first LF DL-S5 QSO took place tonight 19:45 - 20:00, when Boris, S57A in JN65TW and Edgar, DL2HRE in JO51TQ exchanged 559 and 579 reports. Both stations were perfectly readable here as well.

Congratulations and best wishes

Markus, DF6NM
 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27409 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2003 16:46:26 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 6 Feb 2003 16:46:26 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: High Received: (qmail 26225 invoked by uid 10001); 6 Feb 2003 16:46:22 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Feb 2003 16:46:22 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18gp6L-0005Hk-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 16:42:13 +0000 Received: from [212.1.130.1] (helo=smtp-1.visp.telinco.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18gp6L-0005Hb-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 16:42:13 +0000 Received: from [80.40.88.65] (helo=standalone) by smtp-1.visp.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.32 #1) id 18goqr-0006IG-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 16:26:14 +0000 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:42:05 -0000 Message-ID: <01C2CDFE.AEEC6370.g4jnt@thersgb.net> From: "Andy talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:42:04 -0000 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: RE: Re: "Decca-type" coils Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,X_PRIORITY_HIGHversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I carried out a series of tests on Rayners formula for inductors a few years ago, making up single layer coils between 20nH to 1mH and measuring them. All were within 20% of design, and most of the values above 200nH accurate to within to 10%. Both my 73 and 137kHz loading coils were within 5% of design value (that is actual real inductance, not the effective value after taking distributed capacitance into account) Initial design of multi layer coils is not too far out with this formula either. L (uH) = (N.D)^2 / (0.46 D + 1.02 G) All dimensions in mm, D is coil diameter, G is length, N number of turns. Andy G4JNT -----Original Message----- From: Hugh M0WYE [SMTP:m0wye@thersgb.net] Sent: 2003/02/06 16:13 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: "Decca-type" coils Hi Peter > Hello lf-group, > is there any formula to calculate a loading-coil like the Decca-type? > Abt 3 mH might be required. By "Decca-type" I presume you mean "basket weave" Alan Melia has pictures and some design info for a home made basket weave coil of 2.3mH and another of 9mH at http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/lfaecoil.htm#LF%20Aerials%20and%20Loa ding%20coils I find coil equations rarely give an accurate value of mH, I prefer to wind some turns and measure the resonant frequency with a capacitor of known value. Then add or subtract turns until the desired value is obtained. Hugh M0WYE From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1079 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2003 16:15:12 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 6 Feb 2003 16:15:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 15438 invoked by uid 10001); 6 Feb 2003 16:15:12 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Feb 2003 16:15:12 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18gofI-00056u-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 16:14:16 +0000 Received: from [212.159.14.223] (helo=marstons.services.quay.plus.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18gofH-00056l-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 16:14:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 22568 invoked by uid 10001); 6 Feb 2003 16:13:42 -0000 Received: from ctuash.sonnetinternet.co.uk (HELO hugh) (212.159.90.113) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Feb 2003 16:13:42 -0000 Message-ID: <001501c2cdfa$a0a3c280$0504210a@c.scope> From: "Hugh M0WYE" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c2cdf3$20d54530$ee9bfea9@oben> <006e01c2cdf7$3c0e1fd0$1b00a8c0@dellboy> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:12:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: "Decca-type" coils Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Peter > Hello lf-group, > is there any formula to calculate a loading-coil like the Decca-type? > Abt 3 mH might be required. By "Decca-type" I presume you mean "basket weave" Alan Melia has pictures and some design info for a home made basket weave coil of 2.3mH and another of 9mH at http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/lfaecoil.htm#LF%20Aerials%20and%20Loa ding%20coils I find coil equations rarely give an accurate value of mH, I prefer to wind some turns and measure the resonant frequency with a capacitor of known value. Then add or subtract turns until the desired value is obtained. Hugh M0WYE From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16566 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2003 16:02:09 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 6 Feb 2003 16:02:09 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 1955 invoked by uid 10001); 6 Feb 2003 16:02:08 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Feb 2003 16:02:08 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18goTA-00051D-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 16:01:44 +0000 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18goT9-000514-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 16:01:44 +0000 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 18goPZ-00072c-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 15:58:01 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18goPX-0000tN-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 15:57:59 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030206154057.00ac78f0@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 15:57:57 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: <000c01c2cdf3$20d54530$ee9bfea9@oben> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: Re: LF: Coil Calculation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=6.0tests=DEAR_SOMEBODY,IN_REP_TO,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear Peter, LF group, I have used a simple DOS program coil.exe (runs OK in windows DOS box) which can be downloaded as coil02.zip from http://www.moshier.net/coildoc.html with reasonably accurate results for several types of coil. This implements one of several text-book formulae depending on what menu option you chose - it does loops, round and square solenoids, toroids etc. The Decca type basket-weave coil is probably best represented by a multi-layer circular solenoid (option 7). Don't forget to set the dimensions (option 11 - inches or cm). Do not expect very accurate results with this type of coil - all the formulae ignore distributed capacitance, which makes L frequency dependent. Multi-layer coils are obviously susceptible to this, which makes the apparent inductance higher. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6521 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2003 15:57:54 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 6 Feb 2003 15:57:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 9395 invoked by uid 10001); 6 Feb 2003 15:57:49 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Feb 2003 15:57:48 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18goOl-0004vI-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 15:57:11 +0000 Received: from [134.58.240.42] (helo=rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18goOk-0004uv-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 15:57:10 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3B38FCBE for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:56:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from octavianus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (octavianus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.71]) by rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C432A8FC64 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:56:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (pc-10-33-165-177.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [10.33.165.177]) by octavianus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id A86ECAED77 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:56:39 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030206170345.02cff018@u0019445.kuleuven.be> X-Sender: u0019445@u0019445.kuleuven.be X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 17:04:38 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" In-reply-to: <000c01c2cdf3$20d54530$ee9bfea9@oben> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: KULeuven Anti-Virus Cluster Subject: Re: LF: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2CDFB.823F0A10" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=6.0tests=IN_REP_TO,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello Peter, have a look here : http://www.qsl.net/on7yd/136ant.htm#LoadingCoil 73, Rik ON7YD >Hello lf-group, >is there any formula to calculate a loading-coil like the Decca-type? >Abt 3 mH might be required. >73, Peter (yes, another one) dj9dw. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4998 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2003 15:49:00 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 6 Feb 2003 15:49:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 21181 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2003 15:48:56 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Feb 2003 15:48:55 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18goFd-0004oK-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 15:47:45 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.116] (helo=lutetium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18goFc-0004oB-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 15:47:45 +0000 Received: from host217-34-68-189.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.68.189] helo=dellboy) by lutetium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18goFb-00045s-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 15:47:43 +0000 Message-ID: <006e01c2cdf7$3c0e1fd0$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c2cdf3$20d54530$ee9bfea9@oben> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:48:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2CDFB.823F0A10" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_03_05, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Peter. Try G4FGQ's web-site http://www.btinternet.com/~g4fgq.regp/index.html There are a few programs which may help you such as vertload, tant136 and solnoid2. 73 Dave G3YXM > > Hello lf-group, > is there any formula to calculate a loading-coil like the Decca-type? > Abt 3 mH might be required. > 73, Peter (yes, another one) dj9dw. > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21790 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2003 15:29:39 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 6 Feb 2003 15:29:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 17413 invoked by uid 10001); 6 Feb 2003 15:29:38 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Feb 2003 15:29:38 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18gnwr-0004g7-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 15:28:21 +0000 Received: from [193.212.240.200] (helo=virus-in.online.no) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18gnwq-0004fr-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 15:28:20 +0000 Received: from [134.47.162.190] by virus-in.online.no with ESMTP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:27:42 +0100 Received: from tns-fbu-22-214.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.162.92]) by tns-fbu-22-209.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4453); Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:27:45 +0100 Received: from tns-fbu-22-212.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.162.91]) by tns-fbu-22-214.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4453); Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:27:45 +0100 Received: from TNS-FBU-2E-003.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.164.101]) by tns-fbu-22-212.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4453); Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:27:45 +0100 content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:27:45 +0100 Message-ID: <2D280BB697C7EE4C979C5C89925418EFB05AD4@TNS-FBU-2E-003.corp.telenor.no> Thread-Topic: Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2CDFB.823F0A10" Thread-Index: AcLN86NSIrrtg1baTZG9I/t0bDV7xgAAHqFw From: jan-martin.noding@telenor.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Feb 2003 15:27:45.0515 (UTC) FILETIME=[4C45C3B0:01C2CDF4] MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: RE: Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2CDFB.823F0A10" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=6.0tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: ** X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Suppose PA0SE has some info, please don't use quoted printable, it is difficult to read 73 LA8AK --- J M Nřding, Datakvalitet, TTS, Kristiansand Telefon 0047-380-52660, 9077-7126 (QTH: 0047-380-87178) -----Original Message----- From: dj9dw [mailto:dj9dw@t-online.de] Sent: 6. februar 2003 16:19 To: LF_group Hello lf-group, is there any formula to calculate a loading-coil like the Decca-type? Abt 3 mH might be required. 73, Peter (yes, another one) dj9dw. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24393 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2003 15:18:36 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 6 Feb 2003 15:18:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 22165 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2003 15:18:36 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Feb 2003 15:18:36 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18gnme-0004az-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 15:17:48 +0000 Received: from [194.25.134.18] (helo=mailout04.sul.t-online.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18gnmd-0004aq-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 15:17:47 +0000 Received: from fwd00.sul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18gnmc-0004gK-02; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 16:17:46 +0100 Received: from oben (520036610031-0001@[217.224.18.211]) by fwd00.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18gnmF-1FAPwGC; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:17:23 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01c2cdf3$20d54530$ee9bfea9@oben> From: "dj9dw" To: "LF_group" Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:19:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Sender: 520036610031-0001@t-dialin.net Subject: LF: Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2CDFB.823F0A10" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUBJ_MISSING,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2CDFB.823F0A10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello lf-group, is there any formula to calculate a loading-coil like the Decca-type? Abt 3 mH might be required. 73, Peter (yes, another one) dj9dw. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2CDFB.823F0A10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello lf-group,
is there any formula to calculate a = loading-coil=20 like  the Decca-type?
Abt 3 mH might be = required.
73, Peter (yes, another one)=20 dj9dw.
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2CDFB.823F0A10-- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19748 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2003 14:25:44 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 6 Feb 2003 14:25:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 12053 invoked by uid 10001); 6 Feb 2003 14:25:44 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Feb 2003 14:25:43 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18gmwv-0004K8-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 14:24:21 +0000 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18gmwv-0004Jy-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 14:24:21 +0000 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 18gmuD-0005jh-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 14:21:33 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18gmu3-0006ws-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 14:21:23 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030206140559.00ac3ab8@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 14:21:21 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: <18gYXv-1lhgiuC@fwd09.sul.t-online.com> References: <3E3E77B7.80C9980C@fh-amberg-weiden.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: Re: LF: who was it Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=6.0tests=DEAR_SOMEBODY,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false At 00:01 06/02/2003 +0100, you wrote: >Hi all, > >who was it on 137,660kHz mode qrss 3sec/dot. I caught: > >so7jrmgh sk. see attachment pse. Dear Uwe, LF Group, OK, I admit it - it was me. I was in QSO with M0WYE, and what I think I actually sent was "tnx QSO 73 Hugh SK". Conditions were quite noisy last night, but M0WYE is a much better signal now with the 10dB power increase. I thought I could see a MT-Hell signal at a slightly lower frequency at one point, but could not make out the characters. It could also have been the Luxembourg effect noise I suppose. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12515 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2003 08:19:47 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 6 Feb 2003 08:19:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 9499 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2003 08:19:43 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Feb 2003 08:19:42 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ghAn-0002eP-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 08:14:17 +0000 Received: from [212.1.130.1] (helo=smtp-1.visp.telinco.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ghAn-0002eG-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 08:14:17 +0000 Received: from [80.40.6.15] (helo=hughspc) by smtp-1.visp.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.32 #1) id 18ggvO-0006Ty-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 07:58:22 +0000 Message-ID: <004901c2cdb7$a48fec40$55cce150@hughspc> From: "Hugh" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E3E77B7.80C9980C@fh-amberg-weiden.de> <18gYXv-1lhgiuC@fwd09.sul.t-online.com> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:55:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: who was it Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_03_05,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello Uwe, I was in QSO with Jim, M0BMU at that time. I expect what you saw was Jim sending something like "so 73 Hugh sk" I doubt that you would have seen my transmissions, as I was running about 30W, antenna current of 0.25A to a small Marconi "T" (only 7 metres high vertical) 73 Hugh M0WYE (I expect your name sounds the same as mine but with out the "H" on the front) ----- Original Message ----- From: jannsen <0482183881-0001@t-online.de> To: Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:01 PM Subject: LF: who was it > Hi all, > > who was it on 137,660kHz mode qrss 3sec/dot. I caught: > > so7jrmgh sk. see attachment pse. > > regards > > Uwe/dj8wx > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11664 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2003 08:18:48 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 6 Feb 2003 08:18:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 9412 invoked by uid 10001); 6 Feb 2003 08:18:48 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Feb 2003 08:18:48 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ghAo-0002ec-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 08:14:18 +0000 Received: from [212.1.130.1] (helo=smtp-1.visp.telinco.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ghAo-0002eT-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 08:14:18 +0000 Received: from [80.40.6.15] (helo=hughspc) by smtp-1.visp.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.32 #1) id 18ggvP-0006Ty-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 07:58:23 +0000 Message-ID: <004a01c2cdb7$a53f6620$55cce150@hughspc> From: "Hugh" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001601c2cd5e$94b36580$91d5e150@hughspc> <005701c2cd61$adcb7870$1b00a8c0@dellboy> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:58:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Who was sending DFCW ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Dave, I'll be ready for you next time ! Wobbles. Yes, the wobbles are entirely mine. The set up is far from ideal at the moment. Please try again if you see me on. 73 Hugh M0WYE ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Pick To: Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:58 PM Subject: LF: Re: Who was sending DFCW ? > It was me! > And it wasn't as wobbly as the screen shot makes it look... > 73. > > Dave G3YXM. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hugh" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:34 PM > Subject: LF: Who was sending DFCW ? > > > > Hello group, > > > > Somebody came back to my QRSS3 CQ last night at 19:53, and due to my lack > of > > experiance, I didn't realise it was Dual Frequency CW. Looking at my > capture > > I can see my callsign in there, but at the time I was totally confused ... > > sorry about that. > > > > Unfortunately I messed up the capture because I was trying various buttons > > and settings in Argo to try to get some recognisable CW on the screen ! - > > should have just left it ! > > But now I don't know who it was ... > > > > Thanks for coming back to the call and you were a terrific signal here, > well > > audible in the loudspeaker. > > > > 73 > > Hugh M0WYE > > m0wye@thersgb.net > > > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16145 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2003 23:02:40 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 5 Feb 2003 23:02:40 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 26482 invoked by uid 10001); 5 Feb 2003 23:02:40 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Feb 2003 23:02:39 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18gYYH-0000pv-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 23:01:57 +0000 Received: from [194.25.134.83] (helo=mailout07.sul.t-online.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18gYYG-0000pm-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 23:01:56 +0000 Received: from fwd09.sul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18gYYF-0000pW-03; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 00:01:55 +0100 Received: from (0482183881-0001@[62.158.13.117]) by fwd09.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18gYXv-1lhgiuC; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 00:01:35 +0100 From: "jannsen" <0482183881-0001@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3E3E77B7.80C9980C@fh-amberg-weiden.de> X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 2.34 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 00:01:35 +0100 Message-ID: <18gYXv-1lhgiuC@fwd09.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0482183881-0001@t-dialin.net Subject: LF: who was it Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060802040304020302000401" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=6.0tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,FROM_STARTS_WITH_NUMS,REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_TONLINEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060802040304020302000401 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all, who was it on 137,660kHz mode qrss 3sec/dot. 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Normal Received: (qmail 21468 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2003 23:00:38 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Feb 2003 23:00:38 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18gYW5-0000ly-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 22:59:41 +0000 Received: from [165.212.11.113] (helo=cmsrelay04.mx.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18gYW4-0000lp-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 22:59:40 +0000 Received: from uadvg131.cms.usa.net (HELO localhost) (165.212.11.131) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 5 Feb 2003 22:59:08 -0000 Received: from usa.net [80.104.9.173] by uadvg131.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.2.05) with ESMTP id 459HBew8F0058M31; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 22:59:05 GMT Message-ID: <3E419763.7070901@usa.net> Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 23:59:47 +0100 From: "Alberto di Bene" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <29BDD4F529FCD311B631009027357C4E04D6A088@btss103a.swh.sk> Subject: Re: LF: Sked... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.6 required=6.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Gasparik Richard wrote: >Hi all LF-ers... > >During the second weekend in march (8.-9.3.2003) I'll be again QRV from "two >towers" QTH. I'm looking for some stations. I still need a QSO with CT > > Which tower will you be in ? Orthanc or Barad-Dur ? There is a profound difference...... :-) 73 Alberto I2PHD From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19652 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2003 22:34:55 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 5 Feb 2003 22:34:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 3311 invoked by uid 10001); 5 Feb 2003 22:34:55 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Feb 2003 22:34:54 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18gY7B-0000eh-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 22:33:57 +0000 Received: from [63.171.43.2] (helo=ns2.genesis-technology.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18gY7B-0000eY-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 22:33:57 +0000 Received: from we0h ([65.165.20.192]) by ns2.genesis-technology.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h15MXof24288 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 16:33:51 -0600 From: "WE0H" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 16:39:31 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-reply-to: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: RE: G3LDO to Alaska tests Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=6.0tests=IN_REP_TO,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02,USER_AGENT_OUTLOOKversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Welcome back Laurence. Hi Hi... Time to go hunting. Hi Hi... Mike>WE0H http://www.we0h.us/lf -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Laurence J Howell Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 1:42 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: G3LDO to Alaska tests G3LDO cc : LF group Peter - Im looking at the available screen grabs from your tests, and am very dissapointed with the last 3 weeks data whilst I ve been teaching in TI3 land, Below may answer a few questions why! This may be shared with a wider audience but.. on going away from home base for 3 weeks and hopefully capturing some good LF opening make sure you or have considered the the following : 1. Make sure you antennae system can cope with a 1 in a 100 year wind storm with temperatures in Anchorage peaking near +10C 2. Make sure you weld down the support strutcture for the antennae base and use at leat 5 tonnes of ballast as a counterbalance against tree movement 3. Surround the base of the antennae feed point with at leat an 3m high fence to keep the hungry moose from chewing the electrical insulation from the vertical feed line and 4. Using their hooves to dig up the earth mat and or chew on your hard line 5. Dont leave the ARGO PC connected to the Intenet whilst away as you will get :- 6. ?!*&^!!**!$! Pop up messages obliterating the saved to disk Jpegs giving the first visible UK/Alaska 136 QRSS signals 7. Girlfriend from accidently shutting down ARGo whilst writing an Email 8. Girlfriend leaving on a flourescent dimmer control in the bedroom producing massive squiggles - 9. Local squirrel population chewing on the loading wires support cables and collapsing the same. Apart from that I have 264 Jpegs to review .....I should have had a 1000. Laurence KL1X, back up and running. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28417 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2003 21:58:07 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 5 Feb 2003 21:58:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 24744 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2003 21:58:07 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Feb 2003 21:58:07 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18gXXm-0000Sj-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 21:57:22 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.81] (helo=tungsten.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18gXXm-0000Sa-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 21:57:22 +0000 Received: from host217-34-68-189.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.68.189] helo=dellboy) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 18gXXl-0001rC-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 21:57:21 +0000 Message-ID: <005701c2cd61$adcb7870$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001601c2cd5e$94b36580$91d5e150@hughspc> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:58:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Who was sending DFCW ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false It was me! And it wasn't as wobbly as the screen shot makes it look... 73. Dave G3YXM. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:34 PM Subject: LF: Who was sending DFCW ? > Hello group, > > Somebody came back to my QRSS3 CQ last night at 19:53, and due to my lack of > experiance, I didn't realise it was Dual Frequency CW. Looking at my capture > I can see my callsign in there, but at the time I was totally confused ... > sorry about that. > > Unfortunately I messed up the capture because I was trying various buttons > and settings in Argo to try to get some recognisable CW on the screen ! - > should have just left it ! > But now I don't know who it was ... > > Thanks for coming back to the call and you were a terrific signal here, well > audible in the loudspeaker. > > 73 > Hugh M0WYE > m0wye@thersgb.net > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21428 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2003 21:37:32 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 5 Feb 2003 21:37:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 3721 invoked by uid 10001); 5 Feb 2003 21:37:32 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Feb 2003 21:37:31 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18gXDs-0000I9-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 21:36:48 +0000 Received: from [212.1.130.1] (helo=smtp-1.visp.telinco.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18gXDs-0000I0-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 21:36:48 +0000 Received: from [80.40.0.148] (helo=hughspc) by smtp-1.visp.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.32 #1) id 18gWyS-0006OH-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 21:20:53 +0000 Message-ID: <001601c2cd5e$94b36580$91d5e150@hughspc> From: "Hugh" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:34:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Who was sending DFCW ? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070606040301000405010506" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070606040301000405010506 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello group, Somebody came back to my QRSS3 CQ last night at 19:53, and due to my lack of experiance, I didn't realise it was Dual Frequency CW. Looking at my capture I can see my callsign in there, but at the time I was totally confused ... sorry about that. Unfortunately I messed up the capture because I was trying various buttons and settings in Argo to try to get some recognisable CW on the screen ! - should have just left it ! But now I don't know who it was ... 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(Exim 4.12) id 18gXDb-0000Hn-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 21:36:31 +0000 Received: from tnt-3-14.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.202.14] helo=erica) by smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18gXDZ-000HFO-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 21:36:30 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c2cd5f$11803fc0$0eca28c3@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:34:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: G3LDO to Alaska tests Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Laurence > > Im looking at the available screen grabs from your tests, and am > very dissapointed with the last 3 weeks data whilst I ve been teaching in > TI3 land, Well generally LF DX conditions have been poor and for the last 9 days I have not transmitted. Conditions appeared to peak around 21st January and I transmitted on the 18th, 19th 21st thro to the 24th > > > 1. Make sure you antennae system can cope with a 1 in a 100 year wind > storm with temperatures in Anchorage peaking near +10C > 2. Make sure you weld down the support strutcture for the antennae base > and use at leat 5 tonnes of ballast as a counterbalance against tree > movement What day did you have the storm? Is the mast still standing? > > Apart from that I have 264 Jpegs to review .....I should have had a 1000. We might be lucky > Regards, Peter, G3LDO e-mail Web From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15677 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2003 19:44:30 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 5 Feb 2003 19:44:30 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 26417 invoked by uid 10001); 5 Feb 2003 19:44:30 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Feb 2003 19:44:30 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18gVR0-0008HR-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 19:42:14 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.140] (helo=mailman2.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18gVQz-0008HI-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 19:42:14 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman2.ppco.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h15JgCR2027269 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:42:12 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 05 Feb 2003 13:42:10 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08916 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:42:09 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:42:07 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 02/05/2003 01:42:09 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: G3LDO to Alaska tests Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_01_02version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false G3LDO cc : LF group Peter - Im looking at the available screen grabs from your tests, and am very dissapointed with the last 3 weeks data whilst I ve been teaching in TI3 land, Below may answer a few questions why! This may be shared with a wider audience but.. on going away from home base for 3 weeks and hopefully capturing some good LF opening make sure you or have considered the the following : 1. Make sure you antennae system can cope with a 1 in a 100 year wind storm with temperatures in Anchorage peaking near +10C 2. Make sure you weld down the support strutcture for the antennae base and use at leat 5 tonnes of ballast as a counterbalance against tree movement 3. Surround the base of the antennae feed point with at leat an 3m high fence to keep the hungry moose from chewing the electrical insulation from the vertical feed line and 4. Using their hooves to dig up the earth mat and or chew on your hard line 5. Dont leave the ARGO PC connected to the Intenet whilst away as you will get :- 6. ?!*&^!!**!$! Pop up messages obliterating the saved to disk Jpegs giving the first visible UK/Alaska 136 QRSS signals 7. Girlfriend from accidently shutting down ARGo whilst writing an Email 8. Girlfriend leaving on a flourescent dimmer control in the bedroom producing massive squiggles - 9. Local squirrel population chewing on the loading wires support cables and collapsing the same. Apart from that I have 264 Jpegs to review .....I should have had a 1000. Laurence KL1X, back up and running. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21051 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2003 17:27:11 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 5 Feb 2003 17:27:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 14953 invoked by uid 10001); 5 Feb 2003 17:27:11 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Feb 2003 17:27:11 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18gTFR-0007ho-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 17:22:09 +0000 Received: from [212.159.3.230] (helo=guinness) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18gTFQ-0007hZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 17:22:08 +0000 Received: from [212.159.14.225] (helo=murphys.services.quay.plus.net) by guinness with smtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 18gTEn-00076x-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 17:21:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 17174 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2003 17:20:53 -0000 Received: from ctuash.sonnetinternet.co.uk (HELO hugh) (212.159.90.113) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Feb 2003 17:20:53 -0000 Message-ID: <000301c2cd3a$dc512d60$0504210a@c.scope> From: "Hugh M0WYE" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 17:20:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: QRSS3 tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi All, I hope to be sending some CQs in QRSS3 tonight, sometime about 19:30 onwards. QSOs and signal reports always welcome. 73 Hugh M0WYE m0wye@thersgb.net From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19063 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2003 14:52:26 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 5 Feb 2003 14:52:26 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 1491 invoked by uid 10001); 5 Feb 2003 14:52:26 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Feb 2003 14:52:26 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18gQsi-00074n-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 14:50:32 +0000 Received: from [192.108.125.37] (helo=ns3.swh.sk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18gQse-00074W-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 14:50:28 +0000 Received: from hermes.swh.sk (hermes.swh.sk [192.108.125.60]) by ns3.swh.sk (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h15EoI118098 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:50:18 +0100 Received: from btss101a.swh.sk (btss.swh.sk [139.24.136.15]) by hermes.swh.sk (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA23557 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:50:08 +0100 (MET) Received: by btss.swh.sk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <1GX2QV0H>; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:50:05 +0100 Message-ID: <29BDD4F529FCD311B631009027357C4E04D6A088@btss103a.swh.sk> From: "Gasparik Richard" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:48:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Subject: LF: Sked... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.9 required=6.0tests=EXCHANGE_SERVER,MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, UPPERCASE_25_50version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: ** X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all LF-ers... During the second weekend in march (8.-9.3.2003) I'll be again QRV from "two towers" QTH. I'm looking for some stations. I still need a QSO with CT (CT1DRP), EA (EA1PX), EI (EI0CF), GM (MM0ALM or any other QRV), GI (GI3KEV or any other QRV), GW (GW4HXO or any other QRV), LX (LX1PD), OH0 (OH0RJ). I'm ready for a sked on CW or QRSS during this weekend. Best regards and I hope see you later on the band. 73 de Rich OM2TW From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15443 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2003 07:02:40 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 5 Feb 2003 07:02:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 16754 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2003 07:02:34 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Feb 2003 07:02:34 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18gJVo-0004tI-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 06:58:24 +0000 Received: from [195.110.100.2] (helo=mail.dada.it) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18gJVn-0004t9-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 06:58:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 1175 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2003 06:57:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cestag) (195.110.102.242) by mail.dada.it with SMTP; 5 Feb 2003 06:57:50 -0000 Message-ID: <001501c2cce4$1e1e30a0$f2666ec3@cestag> From: "cesare tagliabue" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c2a79b$175dfc00$53e4fc3e@l8p8y6> <002f01c2a7a2$18434ec0$28676ec3@cestag> <000b01c2c93b$6d8ce980$0bc828c3@erica> <003301c2c96c$d36ecc60$20666ec3@cestag> <000e01c2cc9a$10390f40$521686d4@erica> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 07:59:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: R: I5TGC Antennas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=6.0tests=DEAR_SOMEBODY,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear Peter Received your two messages, I'll prepare for you a documentation about my crossed loop antenna, 73 Cesare Cesare Tagliabue I 5 TGC WW-Loc JN53PS e-mail: cestag@dada.it url: http://dai5tgc.dadacasa.supereva.it -----Messaggio Originale----- Da: "g3ldo" A: Data invio: martedě 4 febbraio 2003 23.08 Oggetto: LF: I5TGC Antennas > Dear Cesare > > > Obviously you can use my web page as source of informations about > my > > antennas, I'll search in my PC for any possible further useful pictures or > > schematics, may be there are some high resolution images, I'll send what I > > find as soon as possible. > > When I sent the e-mail requesting information on your antennas I had > forgotten that I asked you the same question in November last year. I am > sorry about that - I can only put it down to old age! > > My next column will concentrate on antennas for lower frequencies in > location that are very restricted in space. I have the diagram of your 160m > antenna with its modifications for the 136kHz band, which are fine. I also > have photos of these antennas as shown in the Low Frequency Experimenter's > Handbook but it would be better if I had higher resolution pictures to give > your antenna designs full justice. > At this time these are the only two photos that I would like. > > I am very interested in your crossed loop for the higher frequency bands. > Does it work better than the conventional loop described by I1ARZ? > > Again Cesare, many thanks > > Regards, > Peter, G3LDO > > e-mail > > Web > > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21445 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2003 22:06:55 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 4 Feb 2003 22:06:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 16102 invoked by uid 10001); 4 Feb 2003 22:06:55 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Feb 2003 22:06:55 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18gBCl-00033i-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2003 22:06:11 +0000 Received: from [212.135.6.13] (helo=smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18gBCl-00033Z-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2003 22:06:11 +0000 Received: from tnt-13-82.easynet.co.uk ([212.134.22.82] helo=erica) by smarthost3.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18gBCk-000CJH-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2003 22:06:10 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01c2cc9a$10390f40$521686d4@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c2a79b$175dfc00$53e4fc3e@l8p8y6> <002f01c2a7a2$18434ec0$28676ec3@cestag> <000b01c2c93b$6d8ce980$0bc828c3@erica> <003301c2c96c$d36ecc60$20666ec3@cestag> Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 22:08:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: I5TGC Antennas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=6.0tests=DEAR_SOMEBODY,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear Cesare > Obviously you can use my web page as source of informations about my > antennas, I'll search in my PC for any possible further useful pictures or > schematics, may be there are some high resolution images, I'll send what I > find as soon as possible. When I sent the e-mail requesting information on your antennas I had forgotten that I asked you the same question in November last year. I am sorry about that - I can only put it down to old age! My next column will concentrate on antennas for lower frequencies in location that are very restricted in space. I have the diagram of your 160m antenna with its modifications for the 136kHz band, which are fine. I also have photos of these antennas as shown in the Low Frequency Experimenter's Handbook but it would be better if I had higher resolution pictures to give your antenna designs full justice. At this time these are the only two photos that I would like. I am very interested in your crossed loop for the higher frequency bands. Does it work better than the conventional loop described by I1ARZ? Again Cesare, many thanks Regards, Peter, G3LDO e-mail Web From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32451 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2003 20:04:33 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 4 Feb 2003 20:04:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 14522 invoked by uid 10001); 4 Feb 2003 20:04:32 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Feb 2003 20:04:32 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18g9IL-0002b1-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2003 20:03:49 +0000 Received: from [212.1.130.1] (helo=smtp-1.visp.telinco.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18g9IL-0002as-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2003 20:03:49 +0000 Received: from [80.40.0.89] (helo=hughspc) by smtp-1.visp.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.32 #1) id 18g935-0007G6-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2003 19:48:03 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01c2cc88$6e93e540$59002850@hughspc> From: "Hugh" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000f01c2cc7f$ce4a8ba0$dc6a0450@oemcomputer> Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 20:01:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: DO NOT READ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_02_03,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Mike, et al, Ahh well there a little bit everyone which likes to do what we're told not to ! so. ... DO NOT answer the CQ call that I am presently putting out on 137.677 73 Hugh M0WYE ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Dennison To: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 7:01 PM Subject: LF: DO NOT READ > I told you not to read this. > > It's just a test. > > Mike, G3XDV > http://www.lf.thersgb.net > ==================== > > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18008 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2003 19:57:32 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 4 Feb 2003 19:57:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 8414 invoked by uid 10001); 4 Feb 2003 19:57:31 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Feb 2003 19:57:31 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18g9Ba-0002Ud-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2003 19:56:50 +0000 Received: from [210.86.15.146] (helo=mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18g9BZ-0002UU-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2003 19:56:49 +0000 Received: from mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.142]) by mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20030204195616.TPB1199.mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 08:56:16 +1300 Received: from xtr743187 ([219.88.54.89]) by mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20030204195615.POSB29171.mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@xtr743187> for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 08:56:15 +1300 Message-ID: <002601c2cc87$fb3b1640$aa4e36d2@xtr743187> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000f01c2cc7f$ce4a8ba0$dc6a0450@oemcomputer> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 08:59:18 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: DO NOT READ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_02_03,UPPERCASE_25_50,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Mike, > I told you not to read this. I didn't ! 73, Bob From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29431 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2003 19:06:56 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 4 Feb 2003 19:06:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 3232 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2003 19:06:56 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Feb 2003 19:06:56 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18g8L1-0002HZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2003 19:02:31 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.41] (helo=mta01-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18g8L0-0002HQ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2003 19:02:31 +0000 Received: from oemcomputer ([80.4.106.220]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20030204190231.DTFW22267.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@oemcomputer> for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:02:31 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01c2cc7f$ce4a8ba0$dc6a0450@oemcomputer> From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:01:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: DO NOT READ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_02_03,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I told you not to read this. It's just a test. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ==================== From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32580 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2003 15:12:46 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 4 Feb 2003 15:12:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 20127 invoked by uid 10001); 4 Feb 2003 15:12:45 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Feb 2003 15:12:45 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18g4jL-0001OM-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2003 15:11:23 +0000 Received: from [193.212.240.200] (helo=virus-out.ttyl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18g4jK-0001OD-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2003 15:11:22 +0000 Received: from [134.47.162.90] by virusscan.ttyl.com with ESMTP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 16:10:48 +0100 Received: from tns-fbu-22-214.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.162.92]) by tns-fbu-22-208.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4453); Tue, 4 Feb 2003 16:10:47 +0100 Received: from tns-fbu-22-213.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.162.191]) by tns-fbu-22-214.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4453); Tue, 4 Feb 2003 16:10:47 +0100 Received: from TNS-FBU-2E-003.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.164.101]) by tns-fbu-22-213.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4453); Tue, 4 Feb 2003 16:10:47 +0100 content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 16:10:47 +0100 Message-ID: <2D280BB697C7EE4C979C5C89925418EFB05AC3@TNS-FBU-2E-003.corp.telenor.no> Thread-Topic: LF: someone else infected?? Thread-Index: AcLJn6oMXuFdnS+4SL2mABqaJ5qbBgCv6idA From: jan-martin.noding@telenor.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2003 15:10:47.0301 (UTC) FILETIME=[988B2350:01C2CC5F] MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: LF: someone else infected?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=6.0tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: ** X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false A good idea, but you may very well use MailWasher and delete all sorts of rubbish and spam on the server 73 Jan-Martin LA8AK -----Original Message----- From: Andre Kesteloot [mailto:andre.kesteloot@verizon.net] RaySoifer@cs.com wrote: > Hi Alan, > > Unfortunately, with today's worms and viruses, the apparent source of an > e-mail is not necessarily where it originated. I've been infected a > couple of times, apparently from sources that the virus copied from my > directory and that turned out to have nothing to do with it. Best thing > to do is simply to purge the virus and not to worry about where it says > it came from. *************************** Even better is to stop using Microsoft Outlook and/or Microsoft Internet Explorer, and adopt something like Netscape 7 (free download) in its stead :-) http://home.netscape.com/computing/download/index.html 73 André N4ICK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 358 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2003 11:36:08 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 4 Feb 2003 11:36:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 29278 invoked by uid 10001); 4 Feb 2003 11:36:07 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Feb 2003 11:36:07 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18g1MK-0000NS-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2003 11:35:24 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.92] (helo=carbon.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18g1MK-0000NJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2003 11:35:24 +0000 Received: from host213-122-160-61.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.160.61] helo=presario-1920) by carbon.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #16) id 18g1MI-0003VA-00; Tue, 04 Feb 2003 11:35:23 +0000 From: "John W Gould" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "HF. Chairman List Member" , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Hartmut_B=FCttig?= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:35:59 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Subject: LF: RE: IARU Region 1 position on 500kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.8 required=6.0tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I thought that I would do a re-send as whilst I have had some good responses I feel that we ought to have a few more volunteers, particularly from Region 1! So come on guys - the more volunteers that we get the less the work for each (within limits!). I don't see the task as that huge, but one of occasional e-mails gradually refining an understanding of the environment, constraints and opportunities. I also don't see too much in the way of IARU interface issues, since we are only setting up a small international expert group to see if we can make a sensible case for a band at or near 500kHz. Offers to me direct please... 73 John, G3WKL g3wkl@btinternet.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of John W Gould > Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 07:24 > To: Rsgb_Lf_Group@Blacksheep.Org > Cc: HF. Chairman List Member; Vk4du@Gmdss. Com. Au > Subject: LF: IARU Region 1 position on 500kHz > > > My apologies for not bringing to this group's attention before the outcome > of a discussion of the RSGB paper on 500kHz, at the San Marino Region 1 > Conference. AMRAD have usefully summarised the position with the > following > in their Jan-Feb 2003 Newsletter, which I quote with their agreement: > > "G3PSM chaired a working group of ON7ZV, PA0SHY, PA0AWN, ZL2AMJ and G4OUT. > The result was the adoption of Recommendation REC/02/SMC4.11, as follows: > > A Working Group would be formed to investigate the possibility of a > frequency allocation of approximately 10kHz between 470-490kHz to > investigate propagation and the use of new communication technologies. A > progress report should be circulated to the secretaries of Region 2 and > Region 3 for information." > > I would add to that statement a comment to me from Colin, G3PSM on his > return that we should be looking in a post-WRC2003 timeframe to come back > with proposals in relation to this part of the spectrum, thus this is a > long-term issue. > > As IARU Region 1 LF Coordinator I have assumed some responsibility for > forming a "500kHz Working Group" and have approached a few people to lead > such a group. This has been without success, so I put the question to the > LF Group - Can I have volunteers please to work in a group, using > e-mail and > a dedicated website, to carry out the task detailed by the above > IARU Region > 1 recommendation. Once a group has been formed it can choose its > chairperson. I would like to see an international membership of the Group, > hence the need to conduct business over the Internet. Meeting together > would be expensive and probably difficult to arrange. Volunteers should > e-mail me directly rather than post to the reflector. > > This e-mail has been copied to Colin, G3PSM and also Glenn, VK4DU (for > Region 3). > > 73 John, G3WKL > g3wkl@btinternet.com > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 852 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2003 10:09:15 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 4 Feb 2003 10:09:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 27731 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2003 10:09:10 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Feb 2003 10:09:10 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18fzwz-0008IN-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2003 10:05:09 +0000 Received: from [193.212.240.200] (helo=virus-out.ttyl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18fzwy-0008IC-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2003 10:05:08 +0000 Received: from [134.47.162.190] by virus-in.online.no with ESMTP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:04:33 +0100 Received: from tns-fbu-22-214.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.162.92]) by tns-fbu-22-209.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4453); Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:04:32 +0100 Received: from tns-fbu-22-212.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.162.91]) by tns-fbu-22-214.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4453); Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:04:32 +0100 Received: from TNS-FBU-2E-003.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.164.101]) by tns-fbu-22-212.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4453); Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:04:32 +0100 content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:04:32 +0100 Message-ID: <2D280BB697C7EE4C979C5C89925418EFB05AB8@TNS-FBU-2E-003.corp.telenor.no> Thread-Topic: Re: RE: Re: R: I5TGC Thread-Index: AcLJTxvucGG/S4qLQJavIDIdTxip6wC5QwKg From: jan-martin.noding@telenor.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2003 10:04:32.0201 (UTC) FILETIME=[D0216390:01C2CC34] MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: R: I5TGC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=6.0tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_03_05version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: ** X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ...........and it is a programto minimize the files - mainly for use on internet - where you decide how readable you want the picture to be, too many sends very large file sizes, when the size could have been a small fraction with perfectly satisfactory quality. Such may not be satisfactory for publications, but one may wonder if some of the picture G3LDO presented in last issue of radcom should still have been redrawn to be published in the magazine 73 Jan-Martin --- J M Nřding, Datakvalitet, TTS, Kristiansand http://tts.telenor.no/orginfo.html?filterstructureid=13&parent=86&treetopid=86 Telefon 0047-380-52660, 9077-7126 (QTH: 0047-380-87178) -----Original Message----- From: Dave Pick [mailto:g3yxm@wireless.org.uk] Sent: 31. januar 2003 18:31 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: R: I5TGC gifs are smaller for areas of solid colour, like diagrams. Jpegs are smaller for photos. Dave G3YXM ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 4:30 PM Subject: LF: RE: Re: R: I5TGC well, gif type files are smaller, don't really understand why it should be jpg? 73, Jan-Martin --- J M Nřding, Kristiansand -----Original Message----- From: g3ldo [mailto:g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk] Sent: 31. januar 2003 16:11 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: R: I5TGC Hello Cesare I write a column each month for the RSGB magazine, RadCom, called 'Antennas'. I often get letters from readers who ask 'what is the best commercial antenna to use if you have only a small garden or no garden at all and talk about the impossability of operating on the lower frequency bands from such a QTH. I would like to describe your lower frequency antennas as an example of what can be done to overcome these difficulties. I would like to use the description from your web page (or any other information that you might have). Do you have some higher resolution images that could be used. In general a .JPG image needs to be over 100k in size to be reproduced in a magazine. Many thanks Peter, G3LDO e-mail Web From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9696 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 22:40:26 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 22:40:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 28038 invoked by uid 10001); 3 Feb 2003 22:40:26 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 22:40:26 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18fpEX-0005lZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 22:38:33 +0000 Received: from [213.4.129.150] (helo=telesmtp1.mail.isp) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18fpEU-0005lQ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 22:38:30 +0000 Received: from BI57429bankinter ([213.99.200.74]) by telesmtp1.mail.isp (terra.es) with ESMTP id H9R88402.4TZ for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 23:38:28 +0100 Message-ID: <002a01c2cbd4$f2404a00$4ac863d5@BI57429bankinter> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Manuel?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 23:38:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Report Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi Rich and all:
 
Copied the QRSS10 signals from Rich, OM2TW, at 2082 Km, but my power wasn´t high enough for the two-way.
 
73 de José, EA1PX, loc IN53TI
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26192 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 15:32:44 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 15:32:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 21808 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 15:32:40 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 15:32:39 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18fiZG-0004AP-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 15:31:30 +0000 Received: from [137.205.128.30] (helo=mail-relay-5.warwick.ac.uk ident=root) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18fiZF-0004AG-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 15:31:29 +0000 Received: from crocus.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@crocus [137.205.192.13]) by mail-relay-5.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h13FVSrj016839 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:31:28 GMT Received: from lap42 ([137.205.176.42]) by crocus.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h13FVO0P012664 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:31:27 GMT From: "John W Gould" To: "Rsgb_Lf_Group@Blacksheep.Org" Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:32:02 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Subject: LF: Tesla info? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=6.0tests=DIRECT_EMAIL,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REALversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I have a friend who is interested in Tesla's work and who is looking for papers & books that he authored. Grateful for a direct e-mail from anyone that can provide any suitable links that I could pass on. 73 John, G3WKL g3wkl@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12641 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 14:25:46 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 14:25:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 24290 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 14:25:41 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 14:25:41 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18fhWe-0003lB-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 14:24:44 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.176] (helo=protactinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18fhWe-0003l2-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 14:24:44 +0000 Received: from host213-122-39-189.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.39.189] helo=Main) by protactinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #16) id 18fhWd-0006DQ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 14:24:43 +0000 Message-ID: <000001c2cb8f$fa730900$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 12:17:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: re DBF39 plots Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Peter, yes the initial unsettled period when the Kp rose to 4 actually gave some advantages as it seemed introduce just a little multipath which led to some higher peaks, but on the 24th Jan the Kp rose to 5. The conditions seemed to decline from about the 27th /28th onwards, as the precipiated electrons increase absorption in the D-layer. Conditions have been steadily "topped up" by a series of minor storms (Kp=5)every day or two since. Steve's plots have proved very interesting as, being a longer path than that to Brian, they are in some ways easier to interpret. The increase in levels for a minor increase in Kp (up to 4 after a prolonged quiet period) is something I have suspected before but never seen so clearly. I think this is a "good omen" for continuing DX in the coming quieter (solar) years. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2762 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 14:11:38 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 14:11:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 16169 invoked by uid 10001); 3 Feb 2003 14:11:38 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 14:11:37 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18fhIo-0003ev-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 14:10:26 +0000 Received: from [195.37.42.2] (helo=FHAMWEN.fh-amberg-weiden.de) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18fhIn-0003eh-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 14:10:26 +0000 Received: from fh-amberg-weiden.de (kp.fh-amberg-weiden.de [195.37.42.59]) by FHAMWEN.fh-amberg-weiden.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id PAA32040; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:11:18 +0100 Message-ID: <3E3E77B7.80C9980C@fh-amberg-weiden.de> Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 15:07:52 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6lpin_Thomas?= Organization: FH-Amberg-Weiden X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [de]C-CCK-MCD DT (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: rainer-foertig@t-online.de X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by FHAMWEN.fh-amberg-weiden.de id PAA32040 Subject: LF: SPM-30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=6.0tests=NOSPAM_INC,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_XM, X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear lf-group, I happened to find this selective level meter (with built-in generator PSE-30) described and offered at www.rainer-foertig.de It´s apparently second hand from the German army and is described as "in good order and checked". The nominal price is ¬ 1295,- incl. German VAT. I made an agreement with Mr. Rainer Foertig that the lf community can get it for ¬ 1150,- incl. German VAT. If someone is interested in this unit for this price (there are at least 5 pieces on stock) please give your order directly to Mr. Foertig and refer to the agreement with Prof. Koelpin from Feb. 03, 2003. Vy 73 Tom, DK1IS From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27111 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 11:06:04 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 11:06:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 8714 invoked by uid 10001); 3 Feb 2003 11:06:04 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 11:06:04 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18fePl-0002op-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 11:05:25 +0000 Received: from [212.135.6.11] (helo=smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18fePl-0002og-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 11:05:25 +0000 Received: from tnt-18-189.easynet.co.uk ([212.134.224.189] helo=erica) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18fePc-000LpV-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 11:05:17 +0000 Message-ID: <002601c2cb74$8fc9b100$bde086d4@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1c0.46b4306.2b6ef078@aol.com> <001401c2cb0a$fb98c5c0$6507a8c0@Main> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 11:07:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: DBF39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false The W3EEE site indicates T/A conditions were the worst seen since the monitoring of DBF-39 started. Kp index was very high, averaging 4 and peaking 5. Regards, Peter, G3LDO From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18777 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 10:40:46 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 10:40:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 9791 invoked by uid 10001); 3 Feb 2003 10:40:46 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 10:40:46 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18fe0q-0002gG-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 10:39:40 +0000 Received: from [203.109.254.41] (helo=grunt1.ihug.co.nz) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18fe0p-0002g7-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 10:39:40 +0000 Received: from p2-max14.chc.ihug.co.nz (athlon) [203.173.227.66] by grunt1.ihug.co.nz with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18fe0h-0007QD-00; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 23:39:31 +1300 Message-ID: <0aec01c2cb70$9913c2e0$0101a8c0@athlon> From: "Dave Brown" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001a01c2caa4$c3557480$48a3edc2@oemcomputer> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 23:39:57 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Fw: Jason test yesterday Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=6.0tests=OUTLOOK_FW_MSG,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Murray A live one in SM5!! Cheers Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Urban ekholm" To: "RSGB-LF-group" Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 11:20 PM Subject: LF: Fw: Jason test yesterday Hello ! Many thanks to those who listened to my very first test with Jason and who sent a report. I am very glad to hear that it was readable. I am using the ZL1BPU exciter and was running between 350 and 450W input to a 15m vertical with two toploading wires 1m apart The frequency was more accurate than expected. I have no means of measuring the frequency accurately. Calibration has been made against WWV on 10Mhz, however in normal room temperature. Unfortunately I cannot receive Jason properly yet. My old TR7 is too unstable (no "japanese wonders" here). The Drake VFO never stops drifting completely. When it is fully warmed up (after about 1hour) it still drifts very slowly up and down about 1hz. Some letters are received OK followed by garbage and then some letters ok again. However, I am building a receiver only for 136 and there I use a VFO running at about 6Mhz divided down to about 244khz and mix with 136 to an IF of 108khz. This VFO is completely stable in normal room temperature after about 30min warm up and gives perfect JAson readability when tested "on the table". However the rx is still in the experimenting stage mounted on a piece of wood (yes !) and has no AGC yet. If anyone is interested in the "appearance" of this contraption just mail me. Using equipment in the /5 QTH though is another matter temperaturewise. Normal temperature wintertime is +5°C indoors so it takes some time to get a pleasant temperature and to get the gear stable. Jim M0MBU: Yes, I was calling some CQ:s on CW after the Jason test. This is my very first report that I was being heard in Britain on normal CW so I am very glad also for that. Unfortunately the noise level with me was much higher than normal yesterday so I did not hear anything. The input on normal CW is about 1100W and I get much more radiated power now when the ground is frozen. The feedpoint impedance is now ~40ohm compared to slightly above 100ohms normally. 73, Urban -SM5EUF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17203 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 08:28:12 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 08:28:12 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 23896 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 08:28:14 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 08:28:14 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18fbth-00025o-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 08:24:09 +0000 Received: from [192.108.125.37] (helo=ns3.swh.sk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18fbtg-00025f-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 08:24:08 +0000 Received: from midas.sbs.sk (midas.swh.sk [192.108.125.51]) by ns3.swh.sk (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h138O5120498 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 09:24:05 +0100 Received: from btss101a.swh.sk (btss.swh.sk [139.24.136.15]) by midas.sbs.sk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h138NuT07149 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 09:23:58 +0100 Received: by btss.swh.sk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 09:23:56 +0100 Message-ID: <29BDD4F529FCD311B631009027357C4E04D6A056@btss103a.swh.sk> From: "Gasparik Richard" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 09:23:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Subject: LF: Weekend acty... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=6.0tests=EXCHANGE_SERVER,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all... Nice weekend again. Worked OK2BVG, YU7AR, OE1KM, M0BMU, I5TGC, DK1IS and DF6NM. Some problems with TX (one STW34NB20 lost). Some problems with receiving, because a lot of intermodulations from the local broadcast 20km away (750kW on 1098kHz). Sri to DL2HRE and DF6NM...aural signal, but it was a very hard to copy you in the BC QRM. Btw I have worked the new station OK2BVG. It was his first QSO on LF with 1.5W output only !!! 73 de Rich OM2TW From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5445 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 01:36:13 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 01:36:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 19121 invoked by uid 10001); 3 Feb 2003 01:36:12 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 01:36:12 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18fVVc-0000ZP-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 01:34:52 +0000 Received: from [63.171.43.2] (helo=ns2.genesis-technology.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18fVVb-0000ZG-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 01:34:51 +0000 Received: from we0h ([65.165.20.192]) by ns2.genesis-technology.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h131Yjf21891 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 19:34:45 -0600 From: "WE0H" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 19:39:53 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-reply-to: <104423560101@thecia.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: RE: Columbia.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=6.0tests=IN_REP_TO,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02,USER_AGENT_OUTLOOKversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false There is no doubt in my mind that the burning materials would cause some kind of electro-static charge in the atmosphere. I am sure it ionized the atmosphere to the extent that refraction took place with radio signals. It is just sad that things like that happen in life. Mike>WE0H -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of nc1k Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 7:37 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Columbia.. Hi LFers, For what it is worth, my son reported hearing a series of unusual "lightning stroke" sounds on the AM Broadcast band, just below 1000 Khz just as Columbia began its re-entry. He is located on Cape Cod in Eastern Massachusetts on the coast and there were no reports of lightning anywhere on the East Coast at that time. His location is 1500 miles from Texas. Maybe just a coincidence but he has not heard that type of sound before; they were so unusual that he became curious and tuned to a station to find out it "anything" had happened and heard that Columbia had just lost contact. Merv. NC1K. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12150 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2003 01:28:46 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 01:28:46 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 11928 invoked by uid 10001); 3 Feb 2003 01:28:46 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Feb 2003 01:28:46 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18fVO9-0000Vp-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 01:27:09 +0000 Received: from [208.218.131.20] (helo=thecia.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18fVNk-0000Vg-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 01:26:44 +0000 Received: from there ([63.214.96.189]) by smtp.thecia.net; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 20:26:41 -0500 From: "nc1k" Organization: thecia To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 20:36:34 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Rcpt-To: Message-ID: <104423560101@thecia.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed Subject: LF: Columbia.. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.4 required=6.0tests=NOSPAM_INC,NO_MX_FOR_FROM,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: *** X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi LFers, For what it is worth, my son reported hearing a series of unusual "lightning stroke" sounds on the AM Broadcast band, just below 1000 Khz just as Columbia began its re-entry. He is located on Cape Cod in Eastern Massachusetts on the coast and there were no reports of lightning anywhere on the East Coast at that time. His location is 1500 miles from Texas. Maybe just a coincidence but he has not heard that type of sound before; they were so unusual that he became curious and tuned to a station to find out it "anything" had happened and heard that Columbia had just lost contact. Merv. NC1K. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2332 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2003 22:33:30 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 2 Feb 2003 22:33:30 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 23666 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2003 22:33:20 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Feb 2003 22:33:20 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18fSf3-0007i1-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 22:32:25 +0000 Received: from [166.82.1.68] (helo=host3.ctc.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18fSf3-0007hs-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 22:32:25 +0000 Received: from att.net ([166.82.181.250]) by host3.ctc.net (InterMail vK.4.03.05.03 201-232-132-103 license 2d687b22c655f23831a2faa19b737467) with ESMTP id <20030202223316.FDXJ333.host3@att.net> for ; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 17:33:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3E3D9C76.C26C3081@att.net> Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 22:32:22 +0000 From: "Dexter McIntyre W4DEX" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1c0.46b4306.2b6ef078@aol.com> Subject: Re: LF: DBF39 Spike at 14:00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.8 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_XM,X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Markus, I noticed that myself and wondered about the possibility all day yesterday. The timing is just right. But after looking at the text data time stamp I now believe that spike may be due to exiting and restarting SpecLab. I have been tweaking the sound card sampling rate in order to get the time stamp correct. I guess I need to see if I can duplicate this spike to confirm this theory. The spike can be seen at: http://www.w4dex.com/plot/dcf39/01feb03spike1400ut.gif Text data for this period is at: http://www.w4dex.com/plot/dcf39/01feb03.txt Dexter MarkusVester@aol.com wrote: > > Dear LF group, > > Dexter has recorded a short and very unusual peak in yesterday's DBF39 > fieldstrength logs: > http://www.w4dex.com/plot/dcf39/01feb03spike1400ut.gif > > Could that be related to the terrible Columbia accident? > > Regards > Markus, DF6NM From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2936 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2003 22:33:24 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 2 Feb 2003 22:33:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 23664 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2003 22:33:20 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Feb 2003 22:33:20 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18fSf5-0007iE-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 22:32:27 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.116] (helo=lutetium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18fSf5-0007i5-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 22:32:27 +0000 Received: from host62-6-102-38.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([62.6.102.38] helo=Main) by lutetium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #16) id 18fSf4-0004rb-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 22:32:26 +0000 Message-ID: <001401c2cb0a$fb98c5c0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1c0.46b4306.2b6ef078@aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 22:32:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: DBF39 Spike at 14:00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Markus, I discussed this with Dex last night. I calculate that Dex would be inside the "horizon" of Columbia at its 60,000 km altitude over Dallas. There is no sign of a deviation on Steve's plot but he is about a 1000kms further north, and would be "over the horizon". It occurred between logging samples so we do not have any more accurate timing than you see from the graph....probably around 1402z allowing for any inaccuracy in Dex's PC clock. In conclusion we are not sure but it seems quite likely. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: 02 February 2003 22:06 Subject: LF: DBF39 Spike at 14:00 > Dear LF group, > > Dexter has recorded a short and very unusual peak in yesterday's DBF39 > fieldstrength logs: > http://www.w4dex.com/plot/dcf39/01feb03spike1400ut.gif > > Could that be related to the terrible Columbia accident? > > Regards > Markus, DF6NM > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7565 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2003 22:08:09 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 2 Feb 2003 22:08:09 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 16513 invoked by uid 10001); 2 Feb 2003 22:08:09 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Feb 2003 22:08:09 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18fSGq-0007SS-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 22:07:24 +0000 Received: from [64.12.136.5] (helo=imo-m02.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18fSGp-0007SJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 22:07:23 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id l.1c0.46b4306 (16781) for ; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 17:06:48 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <1c0.46b4306.2b6ef078@aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 17:06:48 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows DE sub 10607 Subject: LF: DBF39 Spike at 14:00 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=6.0tests=MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_AOLversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: ** X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear LF group,

Dexter has recorded a short and very unusual peak in yesterday's DBF39 fieldstrength logs:
  http://www.w4dex.com/plot/dcf39/01feb03spike1400ut.gif

Could that be related to the terrible Columbia accident?

Regards
Markus, DF6NM
 From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5551 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2003 16:28:27 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 2 Feb 2003 16:28:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 24288 invoked by uid 10001); 2 Feb 2003 16:28:27 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Feb 2003 16:28:27 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18fMxq-00058P-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 16:27:26 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.176] (helo=protactinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18fMxq-00058G-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 16:27:26 +0000 Received: from host213-122-198-231.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.198.231] helo=Main) by protactinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #16) id 18fMxp-0002q1-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 16:27:25 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c2cad7$f8846200$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001001c2caca$b2056de0$d5c863d5@BI57429bankinter> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 16:26:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: CW signals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Jose Manuel, I use Spectran for just that purpose and get a band-monitor waterfall as well. You will have to check what soundcard you are running and whether Spectran is compatible with it. I have not heard Mal but I have not been listening much this weekend. I am sure I would have heard him being called even through my worst noises. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "José Manuel" To: Sent: 02 February 2003 14:52 Subject: LF: CW signals Hi all: Copied this morning CW signals from DJ9IE with readability R4, between 10.20 and 11.10 UTC. I only used the 400 Hz IF filter of my receiver, can anyone suggest me the best software for CW audio filtering? Thanks. Copied some Qrss3 CQ´s from DK1IS also. Can anyone confirm me if Mal is active from GI3KEV? 73 de José, EA1PX, loc IN53TI From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24868 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2003 15:07:36 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 2 Feb 2003 15:07:36 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 22154 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2003 15:07:32 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Feb 2003 15:07:32 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18fLi1-0004dd-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 15:07:01 +0000 Received: from [205.188.157.39] (helo=imo-d07.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18fLi0-0004dN-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 15:07:01 +0000 Received: from DL4YHF@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id l.1ee.c62ecb (4592) for ; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 10:06:22 -0500 (EST) From: DL4YHF@aol.com Message-ID: <1ee.c62ecb.2b6e8dee@aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 10:06:22 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows XP DE sub 50 Subject: Re: LF: CW signals Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.7 required=6.0tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_05_08,USER_AGENT_AOLversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: ** X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Jose,

Congrats for hearing DJ9IE, quite likely the strongest LF station in Germany.

About audio filtering:
If you need a simple program, try Alberto's Spectran (from www.weaksignals.com). On my PC, its filters work perfect.

If you like to invest some more time, try SpecLab (from www.qsl.net/dl4yhf) and use one of the narrow-band filters. Its complicated but versatile. The settings file "CWfilter" allow you to set the filter's center frequency, bandwidth, and frequency conversion (shift) with some sliders on the waterfall frequency scale.

I am sure there are a number of other nice audio filtering programs out there which I have not tried.

Regards,
 Wolf  DL4YHF. From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7518 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2003 14:54:28 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 2 Feb 2003 14:54:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 11902 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2003 14:54:18 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Feb 2003 14:54:18 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18fLUc-0004UX-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 14:53:10 +0000 Received: from [213.4.129.150] (helo=telesmtp4.mail.isp) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18fLUb-0004UO-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 14:53:09 +0000 Received: from BI57429bankinter ([213.99.200.213]) by telesmtp4.mail.isp (terra.es) with ESMTP id H9OS0K00.N2B for ; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 15:53:08 +0100 Message-ID: <001001c2caca$b2056de0$d5c863d5@BI57429bankinter> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Manuel?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 15:52:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: CW signals Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUPERLONG_LINE,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi all:
 
Copied this morning CW signals from DJ9IE with readability R4, between 10.20 and 11.10 UTC. I only used the 400 Hz IF filter  of my receiver, can anyone suggest me the best software for CW audio filtering? Thanks. 
 
Copied some Qrss3 CQ´s from DK1IS also.
 
Can anyone confirm me if Mal is active from GI3KEV?
 
 
73 de José, EA1PX, loc IN53TI
 
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11587 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2003 10:27:17 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 2 Feb 2003 10:27:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 25506 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2003 10:27:13 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Feb 2003 10:27:13 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18fHHq-0002pN-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 10:23:42 +0000 Received: from [212.78.193.245] (helo=smtp01.spray.se) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18fHHp-0002pE-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 10:23:41 +0000 Received: from oemcomputer (t3o940p72.telia.com [194.237.163.72]) by smtp01.spray.se (Postfix) with SMTP id B320D4371B for ; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 12:23:35 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001a01c2caa4$c3557480$48a3edc2@oemcomputer> From: "Urban ekholm" To: "RSGB-LF-group" Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 11:20:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Fw: Jason test yesterday Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=6.0tests=OUTLOOK_FW_MSG,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUPERLONG_LINE, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
 

Hello !
 
Many thanks to those who listened to my very first test with Jason and who sent a report. I am very glad to hear that it was readable. 
I am using the ZL1BPU exciter and was running between 350 and 450W input to a 15m vertical with two toploading wires 1m apart
 
The frequency was more accurate than expected. I have no means of measuring the frequency accurately. Calibration has been made against WWV on 10Mhz, however in normal room temperature.
 
Unfortunately I cannot receive Jason properly yet. My old TR7 is too unstable (no "japanese wonders" here). The Drake VFO never stops drifting completely. When it is fully warmed up (after about 1hour) it still drifts very slowly up and down about 1hz. Some letters are received OK followed by garbage and then some letters ok again.
 
However, I am building a receiver only for 136 and there I use a VFO running at about 6Mhz divided down to about 244khz and mix with 136 to an IF of 108khz. This VFO is completely stable in normal room temperature after about 30min warm up and gives perfect JAson readability when tested "on the table". However the rx is still in the experimenting stage mounted on a piece of wood (yes !) and has no AGC yet.
If anyone is interested in the "appearance" of this contraption just mail me.
 
Using equipment in the /5 QTH though is another matter temperaturewise. Normal temperature wintertime is +5°C indoors so it takes some time to get a pleasant temperature and to get the gear stable. 
 
Jim M0MBU:
Yes, I was calling some CQ:s on CW after the Jason test. This is my very first report that I was being heard in Britain on normal CW so I am very glad also for that. Unfortunately the noise level with me was much higher than normal yesterday so I did not hear anything.
 
The input on normal CW is about 1100W and I get much more radiated power now when the ground is frozen. The feedpoint impedance is now ~40ohm compared to slightly above 100ohms normally. 
73,
Urban -SM5EUF
 
  
From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6602 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2003 10:16:46 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 2 Feb 2003 10:16:46 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 12644 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2003 10:16:48 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Feb 2003 10:16:47 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18fH78-0002iA-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 10:12:38 +0000 Received: from [152.163.225.100] (helo=imo-r04.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18fH77-0002i1-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 10:12:37 +0000 Received: from DL4YHF@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id l.185.16348894 (3964) for ; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 05:12:04 -0500 (EST) From: DL4YHF@aol.com Message-ID: <185.16348894.2b6e48f3@aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 05:12:03 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows XP DE sub 50 Subject: Re: LF: RX loop designs Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=6.0tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_AOLversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hello Jim and the group,

Just to have a "second source": I have uploaded Jim's loop article to my collection of LF articles at http://members.aol.com/articles4lf/index.html .

Compared to G3YXM LF pages, the download is quite slow. So if possible, download it from Dave's site. His ISP seems to offer a better bandwidth than AOL... but now back to very-narrow-bandwidth work.

Thanks Jim for the interesting article. Highly recommended reading !

Regards,  
  Wolf  DL4YHF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24859 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2003 18:03:40 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 18:03:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 28194 invoked by uid 10001); 1 Feb 2003 18:03:40 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 18:03:40 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18f1yr-00046k-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 18:03:05 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.92] (helo=carbon.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18f1yr-00046b-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 18:03:05 +0000 Received: from host213-122-203-93.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.203.93] helo=Main) by carbon.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #16) id 18f1yq-0001GH-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 18:03:04 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01c2ca1c$2fd24680$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 18:03:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Jim's loop article on my site Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_01_02,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all Jim's loop article is downloadable from my web site see the "Contents" and click the hyperlink for download of the pdf file (about 300kB) http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 690 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2003 17:31:55 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 17:31:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 24781 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2003 17:31:52 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 17:31:51 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18f1U5-0003oM-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 17:31:17 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.147] (helo=einsteinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18f1U5-0003oD-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 17:31:17 +0000 Received: from host217-34-68-189.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.68.189] helo=dellboy) by einsteinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #16) id 18f1U4-0000Jh-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 17:31:16 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c2ca17$d99f4eb0$1b00a8c0@dellboy> From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030201161705.00b1fc48@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:32:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Loop antennas Article Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.6 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Jim and all. It's on the web-site at http://www.wireless.org.uk/bploop.pdf Thanks Jim, another excellent article. Dave 'YXM > > I think I have sent out the .pdf file to all who have asked so far - let me > know if it fails to arrive. Both G3YXM and DL4YHF have kindly offered to > upload the article to their web pages, so I expect it will be available > from these sources in the near future. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32219 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2003 17:24:31 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 17:24:31 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 19422 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2003 17:24:27 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 17:24:26 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18f1Mz-0003fx-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 17:23:57 +0000 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18f1My-0003fo-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 17:23:56 +0000 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 18f1Ms-0002sZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 17:23:50 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18f1Mp-0000sn-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 17:23:47 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030201172159.0223fc98@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 17:23:45 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20030201170226.0223c170@gemini.herts.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: Re: LF: Jason from SM5EUF/5 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080500030807040509090101" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=6.0tests=IN_REP_TO,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080500030807040509090101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit At 17:04 01/02/2003 +0000, you wrote: >See the attachment, which shows the spectrum centered on 137.679kHz. Try actually attaching it, Jim! 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 17:05:04 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 19330 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2003 17:05:04 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 17:05:04 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18f14C-0003MC-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 17:04:32 +0000 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18f14B-0003M3-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 17:04:32 +0000 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 18f147-0002L4-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 17:04:27 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18f141-0000kl-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 17:04:21 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030201170226.0223c170@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 17:04:20 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: LF: Jason from SM5EUF/5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=6.0tests=DEAR_SOMEBODY,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear Urban, LF Group, I had good copy of SM5EUF/5's Jason beacon signal between 1300 and 1400 today. The signal was centered on about 137.679Hz - about 4Hz above nominal. There are some Loran lines within the +/-2Hz bandwidth of the signal - there was also some QSB, and when SM5EUF faded a few dB, the signal was swamped by the Loran lines, and copy was corrupted for a while. See the attachment, which shows the spectrum centered on 137.679kHz. A little later, around 1440utc, I heard Urban calling CQ in CW near 136.5k. The signal was very weak, but the noise level was also very low, so about RST439. I called a couple of times, but no response. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1767 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2003 16:38:09 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 16:38:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 468 invoked by uid 10001); 1 Feb 2003 16:38:09 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 16:38:08 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18f0eJ-000331-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 16:37:47 +0000 Received: from [131.227.76.5] (helo=prue.eim.surrey.ac.uk ident=exim) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18f0eI-00032s-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 16:37:46 +0000 Received: from ntlras2-200.surrey.ac.uk ([131.227.137.200] helo=eemsrg88) by prue.eim.surrey.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #4) id 18f0e8-0002aP-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 16:37:37 +0000 From: "Michael J Underhill" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 16:33:13 -0000 Message-ID: <002501c2ca0f$9e5620c0$ee8ae383@ee.surrey.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20030131161755.00aef0b8@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal X-DCC-WEiAPG-Metrics: prue.eim.surrey.ac.uk 1072; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Scanner: exiscan *18f0e8-0002aP-00*WUI1jmyJeD2* (SECM, UniS) Subject: LF: RE: RX loop designs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=6.0tests=IN_REP_TO,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Yes please, Jim. By the way, in experiments with my version of the CFL, I have made double tuned HF transmitting loops with similar bandwidth improvements to yours but having at least four times the Q values that I guess you have. I have not yet achieved the claimed CFL bandwidths with the same efficiencies and sensitivities that I get from my other loops. Ganged tuning is necessary and it is difficult to keep this accurately enough in step to cover even a single HF band. At the moment considered 'not worth the hassle' for the HF bands. 73 de Mike G3LHZ m.underhill@surrey.ac.uk -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz Sent: 01 February 2003 11:33 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RX loop designs Dear LF Group, With the recent chatter about LF loops, I finally got round to writing up 3 of my receiving loop designs, which I have been using for the last year or so. They seem to be significantly different to the designs other people have come up with, and work well, so could be of interest. The usual problem with a tuned loop is that the bandwidth is very narrow, so remote tuning is needed. Resistively loading the loop increases BW, but reduces the loop output and SNR, so a bigger loop is needed, and also out-of-band selectivity is reduced. My idea was to add an additional tuned circuit coupled to the loop to produce a bandpass response, which can be designed to give a flat-topped or slightly double-peaked response covering the whole 136kHz band without re-tuning. This has turned out to work well, and the article describes one 1m^2 loop with a bandwidth of about 4kHz, and a 2m x 2m loop using a single turn of tubing with a bandwidth of about 18kHz. With the simple pre-amp also described, the noise floor of both these antennas is well below the band noise even on a quiet day. The article also includes a wideband loop based on a low-pass rather than bandpass design, which covers 10kHz -200kHz, also a single turn 2m x 2m loop. This is slightly less sensitive than the bandpass designs, but more than adequate for general use over the LF/VLF range. The relationship between field strength and loop output for this antenna is predictable, so it can also be used for field strength measurement. The article I have written is 5 pages, with several diagrams, and is a .pdf file of about 340kB. It is too big for the reflector, but if you are interested, let me know, and I will e-mail it to you as an attachment. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16512 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2003 16:31:24 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 16:31:24 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 29637 invoked by uid 10001); 1 Feb 2003 16:31:24 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 16:31:24 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18f0WZ-0002tW-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 16:29:47 +0000 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18f0WY-0002tN-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 16:29:46 +0000 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 18f0WT-0001UN-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 16:29:41 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18f0WJ-0000WL-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 16:29:31 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030201161705.00b1fc48@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 16:27:56 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: LF: Loop antennas Article Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear LF Group, I think I have sent out the .pdf file to all who have asked so far - let me know if it fails to arrive. Both G3YXM and DL4YHF have kindly offered to upload the article to their web pages, so I expect it will be available from these sources in the near future. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20579 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2003 13:56:04 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 13:56:04 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 26824 invoked by uid 10001); 1 Feb 2003 13:56:04 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 13:56:04 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ey6z-00021z-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 13:55:13 +0000 Received: from [64.136.30.66] (helo=jumpjuno2.lax.untd.com) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ey6y-00021o-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 13:55:12 +0000 Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"ekLZ5GQhKqCyTPnb+T6ED8lWnmhdcB5of4mGBt9yIsQ="> Received: (from n8tl@juno.com) by m03.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id HPXHQBTH; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 05:54:15 PST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 08:46:43 -0500 Message-ID: <20030201.084648.-354351.0.n8tl@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3-9,11-67 From: n8tl@juno.com Subject: Re: LF: RX loop designs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=6.0tests=NO_REAL_NAME,ONLY_COST,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello Jim: I would appreciate the .pdf file for the loop commentary and designs as mentioned in the attached mail. I can be reached at rlau@wcnet.org Thankyou and best regards, Tom N8TL On Sat, 01 Feb 2003 11:32:31 +0000 James Moritz writes: > Dear LF Group, > > With the recent chatter about LF loops, I finally got round to > writing up 3 > of my receiving loop designs, which I have been using for the last > year or > so. They seem to be significantly different to the designs other > people > have come up with, and work well, so could be of interest. > > The usual problem with a tuned loop is that the bandwidth is very > narrow, > so remote tuning is needed. Resistively loading the loop increases > BW, but > reduces the loop output and SNR, so a bigger loop is needed, and > also > out-of-band selectivity is reduced. My idea was to add an additional > tuned > circuit coupled to the loop to produce a bandpass response, which > can be > designed to give a flat-topped or slightly double-peaked response > covering > the whole 136kHz band without re-tuning. This has turned out to work > well, > and the article describes one 1m^2 loop with a bandwidth of about > 4kHz, and > a 2m x 2m loop using a single turn of tubing with a bandwidth of > about > 18kHz. With the simple pre-amp also described, the noise floor of > both > these antennas is well below the band noise even on a quiet day. > > The article also includes a wideband loop based on a low-pass rather > than > bandpass design, which covers 10kHz -200kHz, also a single turn 2m x > 2m > loop. This is slightly less sensitive than the bandpass designs, but > more > than adequate for general use over the LF/VLF range. The > relationship > between field strength and loop output for this antenna is > predictable, so > it can also be used for field strength measurement. > > The article I have written is 5 pages, with several diagrams, and is > a .pdf > file of about 340kB. It is too big for the reflector, but if you are > > interested, let me know, and I will e-mail it to you as an > attachment. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7014 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2003 13:41:06 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 13:41:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 17360 invoked by uid 10001); 1 Feb 2003 13:41:05 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 13:41:05 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18exsW-0001tp-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 13:40:16 +0000 Received: from [63.171.43.2] (helo=ns2.genesis-technology.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18exsW-0001tg-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 13:40:16 +0000 Received: from we0h ([65.165.20.192]) by ns2.genesis-technology.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h11DeEf08015; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 07:40:14 -0600 From: "WE0H" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: j.r.moritz@herts.ac.uk Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 07:44:59 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: High In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20030131161755.00aef0b8@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: RE: RX loop designs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=IN_REP_TO,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02,USER_AGENT_OUTLOOK, X_MSMAIL_PRIORITY_HIGH,X_PRIORITY_HIGHversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Send her over the pond Jim. I would like to read that. Thank you. Mike>WE0H http://www.we0h.us/lf -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of James Moritz Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 5:33 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RX loop designs Dear LF Group, With the recent chatter about LF loops, I finally got round to writing up 3 of my receiving loop designs, which I have been using for the last year or so. They seem to be significantly different to the designs other people have come up with, and work well, so could be of interest. The usual problem with a tuned loop is that the bandwidth is very narrow, so remote tuning is needed. Resistively loading the loop increases BW, but reduces the loop output and SNR, so a bigger loop is needed, and also out-of-band selectivity is reduced. My idea was to add an additional tuned circuit coupled to the loop to produce a bandpass response, which can be designed to give a flat-topped or slightly double-peaked response covering the whole 136kHz band without re-tuning. This has turned out to work well, and the article describes one 1m^2 loop with a bandwidth of about 4kHz, and a 2m x 2m loop using a single turn of tubing with a bandwidth of about 18kHz. With the simple pre-amp also described, the noise floor of both these antennas is well below the band noise even on a quiet day. The article also includes a wideband loop based on a low-pass rather than bandpass design, which covers 10kHz -200kHz, also a single turn 2m x 2m loop. This is slightly less sensitive than the bandpass designs, but more than adequate for general use over the LF/VLF range. The relationship between field strength and loop output for this antenna is predictable, so it can also be used for field strength measurement. The article I have written is 5 pages, with several diagrams, and is a .pdf file of about 340kB. It is too big for the reflector, but if you are interested, let me know, and I will e-mail it to you as an attachment. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32658 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2003 13:16:10 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 13:16:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 4209 invoked by uid 10001); 1 Feb 2003 13:16:10 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 13:16:10 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18exUR-0001gv-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 13:15:23 +0000 Received: from [200.196.255.166] (helo=smtp02.ositeisp.com.br) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18exUQ-0001gk-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 13:15:22 +0000 Received: from local ([200.196.251.137]) (AUTH: LOGIN mramos@osite.com.br) by smtp02.ositeisp.com.br with esmtp; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 11:14:13 -0300 Message-ID: <005901c2c9f4$0ca5f080$50aec5c8@local> From: "PY3CRX PY2PLL" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030131161755.00aef0b8@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:15:46 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by courier 0.39.3.20021007 Subject: LF: Re: RX loop designs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi James ... I would like a copy. Actually I´m building a 1 meter diameter mag loop, 100 meter of wire on it, but using the theory adopted by Mr Marco Bruno (www.vlf.it) ... where a loop drives a current amp which have 0 ohm of input Z ... I got two AD797AN ICs ... vy low noise and seems that this design is "flat" from some hertz (150Hz I guess) untill 300 or 400KHz ... 73 Marcus, PY3CRX/PY2PLL GG66rf http://py.qsl.br Active from "DC" to 24GHz ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: 01 February, 2003 09:32 Subject: LF: RX loop designs > Dear LF Group, > > With the recent chatter about LF loops, I finally got round to writing up 3 > of my receiving loop designs, which I have been using for the last year or > so. They seem to be significantly different to the designs other people > have come up with, and work well, so could be of interest. > > The usual problem with a tuned loop is that the bandwidth is very narrow, > so remote tuning is needed. Resistively loading the loop increases BW, but > reduces the loop output and SNR, so a bigger loop is needed, and also > out-of-band selectivity is reduced. My idea was to add an additional tuned > circuit coupled to the loop to produce a bandpass response, which can be > designed to give a flat-topped or slightly double-peaked response covering > the whole 136kHz band without re-tuning. This has turned out to work well, > and the article describes one 1m^2 loop with a bandwidth of about 4kHz, and > a 2m x 2m loop using a single turn of tubing with a bandwidth of about > 18kHz. With the simple pre-amp also described, the noise floor of both > these antennas is well below the band noise even on a quiet day. > > The article also includes a wideband loop based on a low-pass rather than > bandpass design, which covers 10kHz -200kHz, also a single turn 2m x 2m > loop. This is slightly less sensitive than the bandpass designs, but more > than adequate for general use over the LF/VLF range. The relationship > between field strength and loop output for this antenna is predictable, so > it can also be used for field strength measurement. > > The article I have written is 5 pages, with several diagrams, and is a .pdf > file of about 340kB. It is too big for the reflector, but if you are > interested, let me know, and I will e-mail it to you as an attachment. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27000 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2003 12:51:50 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 12:51:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 20933 invoked by uid 10001); 1 Feb 2003 12:51:49 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 12:51:49 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ex6e-0001Vp-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 12:50:48 +0000 Received: from [24.153.64.2] (helo=smtp.comcast.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ex6e-0001Vg-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 12:50:48 +0000 Received: from yourw92p4bhlzg (pcp02064100pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net [68.83.215.165]) by mtaout04.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.09 (built Jan 7 2003)) with SMTP id <0H9M00CRQRMUN2@mtaout04.icomcast.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 07:49:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 07:49:48 -0500 From: "Ralph Lane" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <000e01c2c9f0$67d15020$0000a398@yourw92p4bhlzg> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030131161755.00aef0b8@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Subject: LF: Re: RX loop designs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=6.0tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Jim, sounds like interesting designs. I would like a copy. Thanks, Ralph ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 6:32 AM Subject: LF: RX loop designs > Dear LF Group, > > With the recent chatter about LF loops, I finally got round to writing up 3 > of my receiving loop designs, which I have been using for the last year or > so. They seem to be significantly different to the designs other people > have come up with, and work well, so could be of interest. > > The usual problem with a tuned loop is that the bandwidth is very narrow, > so remote tuning is needed. Resistively loading the loop increases BW, but > reduces the loop output and SNR, so a bigger loop is needed, and also > out-of-band selectivity is reduced. My idea was to add an additional tuned > circuit coupled to the loop to produce a bandpass response, which can be > designed to give a flat-topped or slightly double-peaked response covering > the whole 136kHz band without re-tuning. This has turned out to work well, > and the article describes one 1m^2 loop with a bandwidth of about 4kHz, and > a 2m x 2m loop using a single turn of tubing with a bandwidth of about > 18kHz. With the simple pre-amp also described, the noise floor of both > these antennas is well below the band noise even on a quiet day. > > The article also includes a wideband loop based on a low-pass rather than > bandpass design, which covers 10kHz -200kHz, also a single turn 2m x 2m > loop. This is slightly less sensitive than the bandpass designs, but more > than adequate for general use over the LF/VLF range. The relationship > between field strength and loop output for this antenna is predictable, so > it can also be used for field strength measurement. > > The article I have written is 5 pages, with several diagrams, and is a .pdf > file of about 340kB. It is too big for the reflector, but if you are > interested, let me know, and I will e-mail it to you as an attachment. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4804 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2003 12:15:20 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 12:15:20 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 481 invoked by uid 10001); 1 Feb 2003 12:15:20 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 12:15:20 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ewXP-0001HM-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 12:14:23 +0000 Received: from [205.188.157.34] (helo=imo-d02.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ewXJ-0001H6-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 12:14:18 +0000 Received: from DL4YHF@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id l.6a.2ce830a2 (3956) for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 07:13:44 -0500 (EST) From: DL4YHF@aol.com Message-ID: <6a.2ce830a2.2b6d13f8@aol.com> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 07:13:44 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows XP DE sub 50 Subject: Re: LF: RX loop designs Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=6.0tests=DEAR_SOMEBODY,NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_AOLversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: ** X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear Jim,

> The article I have written is 5 pages, with several diagrams, and is a .pdf
file of about 340kB. It is too big for the reflector, but if you are
interested, let me know, and I will e-mail it to you as an attachment.
<


Yes please.... and if you agree, I will upload the article to my qsl.net website.

Regards,
  Wolf DL4YHF From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7671 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2003 11:37:04 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 11:37:04 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 18377 invoked by uid 10001); 1 Feb 2003 11:37:04 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 11:37:04 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18evt2-0000rb-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 11:32:40 +0000 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18evt2-0000rS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 11:32:40 +0000 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 18evsw-00011X-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 11:32:34 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18evsu-0006K1-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 11:32:33 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030131161755.00aef0b8@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 11:32:31 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: LF: RX loop designs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dear LF Group, With the recent chatter about LF loops, I finally got round to writing up 3 of my receiving loop designs, which I have been using for the last year or so. They seem to be significantly different to the designs other people have come up with, and work well, so could be of interest. The usual problem with a tuned loop is that the bandwidth is very narrow, so remote tuning is needed. Resistively loading the loop increases BW, but reduces the loop output and SNR, so a bigger loop is needed, and also out-of-band selectivity is reduced. My idea was to add an additional tuned circuit coupled to the loop to produce a bandpass response, which can be designed to give a flat-topped or slightly double-peaked response covering the whole 136kHz band without re-tuning. This has turned out to work well, and the article describes one 1m^2 loop with a bandwidth of about 4kHz, and a 2m x 2m loop using a single turn of tubing with a bandwidth of about 18kHz. With the simple pre-amp also described, the noise floor of both these antennas is well below the band noise even on a quiet day. The article also includes a wideband loop based on a low-pass rather than bandpass design, which covers 10kHz -200kHz, also a single turn 2m x 2m loop. This is slightly less sensitive than the bandpass designs, but more than adequate for general use over the LF/VLF range. The relationship between field strength and loop output for this antenna is predictable, so it can also be used for field strength measurement. The article I have written is 5 pages, with several diagrams, and is a .pdf file of about 340kB. It is too big for the reflector, but if you are interested, let me know, and I will e-mail it to you as an attachment. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21389 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2003 03:09:31 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 03:09:31 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 22371 invoked by uid 10001); 1 Feb 2003 03:09:30 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 03:09:30 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18eo1S-0006VZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 03:08:50 +0000 Received: from [206.46.170.141] (helo=out002.verizon.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18eo1R-0006VQ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 03:08:49 +0000 Received: from verizon.net ([141.156.35.105]) by out002.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.20 201-253-122-126-120-20021101) with ESMTP id <20030201030815.ONZJ7656.out002.verizon.net@verizon.net>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:08:15 -0600 Message-ID: <3E3B3A3C.8010109@verizon.net> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:08:44 -0500 From: "Andre Kesteloot" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <103.25b86bc1.2b6c6fd3@cs.com> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out002.verizon.net from [141.156.35.105] at Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:08:15 -0600 Subject: Re: LF: someone else infected?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false RaySoifer@cs.com wrote: > Hi Alan, > > Unfortunately, with today's worms and viruses, the apparent source of an > e-mail is not necessarily where it originated. I've been infected a > couple of times, apparently from sources that the virus copied from my > directory and that turned out to have nothing to do with it. Best thing > to do is simply to purge the virus and not to worry about where it says > it came from. *************************** Even better is to stop using Microsoft Outlook and/or Microsoft Internet Explorer, and adopt something like Netscape 7 (free download) in its stead :-) http://home.netscape.com/computing/download/index.html 73 André N4ICK From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8139 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2003 00:37:58 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 00:37:58 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 28069 invoked by uid 10001); 1 Feb 2003 00:37:58 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 00:37:58 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18elbb-0005cr-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 00:33:59 +0000 Received: from [152.163.225.99] (helo=imo-r03.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18elbZ-0005Z6-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 00:33:57 +0000 Received: from RaySoifer@cs.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id l.103.25b86bc1 (3924) for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:33:24 -0500 (EST) From: RaySoifer@cs.com Message-ID: <103.25b86bc1.2b6c6fd3@cs.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:33:23 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: CompuServe 7.0 for Windows US sub 8001 Subject: Re: LF: someone else infected?? Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=6.0tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: ** X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Alan,

Unfortunately, with today's worms and viruses, the apparent source of an e-mail is not necessarily where it originated.  I've been infected a couple of times, apparently from sources that the virus copied from my directory and that turned out to have nothing to do with it.  Best thing to do is simply to purge the virus and not to worry about where it says it came from.

73,

Ray, W2RS From rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21039 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2003 23:14:02 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 31 Jan 2003 23:14:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 1341 invoked by uid 10001); 31 Jan 2003 23:14:02 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 31 Jan 2003 23:14:02 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ekKB-00056s-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 23:11:55 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.92] (helo=carbon.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ekKB-00056j-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 23:11:55 +0000 Received: from host213-122-155-221.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.155.221] helo=Main) by carbon.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #16) id 18ekK9-0002Cy-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 23:11:53 +0000 Message-ID: <004501c2c97e$12a41280$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 23:10:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: someone else infected?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=6.0tests=MEMBER_2,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-Spam-Level: * X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, sorry to raise this one again but I believe the source of my problems may just possibly be a member of the Group. I have today received 60 messages with two separate titles purporting to come from "steen". "@" replaced by (at) All of these messages have been infected with the W32.lirva.A(at)mm virus, and were disinfected by my ISP (its turning out to be a useful service!). The is also a "richardson.uni2.net" appearing in the trail I generally only get messages from Germany as aresult of this group....so adding 2 and 2 and making a result of 15.75 ....I guess that someone who has messages from me in their Inbox, or my address in their address-book, has an infection. Please look if you have not virus-scanned recently. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com