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From: "Graham Phillips" <g3xtz@rgcomms.demon.co.uk>
To: "RSGB L.F. Group" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject: LF: Peter Bobek, DJ8WL.
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 23:53:06 +0100
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Like many others, I feel that my words cannot do justice to the sense of
loss that we all feel.

My first QSO with Peter was on the 13th December 1971, on 1.826 MHz C.W.
when we had a 23 minute QSO. Our first phone contact followed on the 20th
October 1973, and I have the QSL card for this contact.  Over the years I
have worked Peter many times, always on Topband until very recently when he
was my first 136 kHz contact with Germany.

I first met Peter when John, G3WKL, introduced us at a hostelry before we
ventured forth into the Beaumont Centre at Windsor to install the 136 kHz
station, GB4RS. During the weekend Peter operated the station, and watching
his technique I felt that I could begin to understand why he was such a
successful Topband operator.

According to Jeff Briggs, K1ZM, in his book, DXing on the Edge, Peter
started listening to Topband as a 16-year old in 1959 using a two-tube
receiver.  The same book has a CD of Topband DX stations, of which five
tracks were recorded by Peter, including his contact with KL7Y.  Peter was
the second German station to achieve 160-Meter DXCC. ( Number 33 ).

I would like to suggest that we, as a group of L.F. interested people,
should instigate some form of perpetual award, dedicated to the Memory of
Peter, DJ8WL/DA0LF.  Maybe this could be presented annually to the station
deemed to have achieved the best results, or generated the most interest in
the new L.F. band.  We could use this reflector as the initial forum, but
publicity should be sought outside, as some interested parties would not
have access here.

73 Peter, I trust that we will one-day QSO again,

Graham, G3XTZ.



Graham B. Phillips - G3XTZ.
g3xtz@rgcomms.demon.co.uk


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> All of us who now operate on 136kHz owe a debt to DJ8WL - a true Radio
> Amateur in every sense. We will miss you Peter. 73.
>
>                  John G4GVC

Indeed we will. Peter was a great man, and a gentleman.
Andre' N4ICK



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From: "Dave Sergeant" <sergeantd@compuserve.com>
Subject: LF: Peter Bobek, DJ8WL.
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>From Dave G3YMC

Like all of us, I was most sad to hear about Peter.  I have always been a
close friend of his, having our first QSO on Top Band in November 1973. 
While I was very active on that band during the 70's we had many memorable
chats and he was always most helpful, even though my signal could hardly
compete with his!  In 1979 we met while I was on holiday in Germany and we
had a most enjoyable day down the Rhine  - Peter reminded me of this happy
day when I saw him at the convention last October.

His contribution to the LF scene is particularly relevant, and I think we
are only now beginning to realise what a significant part he played in
getting an allocation for 136, not only in Germany but in the rest of
Europe and beyond.  It is rather poignant that he was not able to
participate for long on the band he had strived so much for.  Unfortunately
I did not manage to have a QSO with him on 136.

<I would like to suggest that we, as a group of L.F. interested people,
<should instigate some form of perpetual award, dedicated to the Memory of
<Peter, DJ8WL/DA0LF.  Maybe this could be presented annually to the station
<deemed to have achieved the best results, or generated the most interest
in
<the new L.F. band.  We could use this reflector as the initial forum, but
<publicity should be sought outside, as some interested parties would not
<have access here

I would second the proposal by Graham G3XTZ for some form of award in
memory of Peter.  This would be very fitting.

73s Dave G3YMC

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Graham Phillips wrote:

> [...]I would like to suggest that we, as a group of L.F. interested people,

> should instigate some form of perpetual award, dedicated to the Memory of

> Peter, DJ8WL/DA0LF.  Maybe this could be presented annually to the station
> deemed to have achieved the best results, or generated the most interest in
> the new L.F. band.

Excellent idea
Andre' N4ICK


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From: "Dave" <dave@picks.force9.co.uk>
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Dear all.

Myself and John G4GVC have just finished a portable session operating as
G2BBC/P (my club callsign). QTH was Market Bosworth in West Leicestershire.
We have to apologise for the massive QSB that everyone we worked commented
on.
The reason was the wind, or lack of it! Sometimes the kite would soar up to
near-vertical (the 599 bits) then the wind would drop and it would slowly
fall back allowing the wire to dangle on the ground and completely de-tune
the system. To prevent the wire touching the ground too much I spent much of
the time running around with a piece of dowell to hold the drooping wire off
the grass...  Occasionally the kite would dive off to one side and the wire
would get tangled around some small trees, I then had to shout to John to
stop sending whilst I disentangled it and run back with my little stick
supporting the wire whilst the kite took it back up!  LX1PD managed to time
his CQ calls exactly wrong so that the kite was flying well during his calls
and fell out of the sky when he was listening...  better luck next time.
The static got too bad to hear much and the picnic-ers became to numerous to
continue by 13:45 so when the kite came down for the umpteenth time we gave
up.
We worked four countries, nine stations in all.
We'll be back!

Dave G3YXM.




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From: "Graham Phillips" <g3xtz@rgcomms.demon.co.uk>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: G2BBC/P
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At least you did not have static problems with the aerial ... it was not up
long enough between QSB's to collect any !!!

Very interesting though, let me know when you are planning another trip, and
I will try and come along with a longer bit of dowell,

73 de

Graham B. Phillips - G3XTZ.
g3xtz@rgcomms.demon.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave <dave@picks.force9.co.uk>
To: LF Group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Date: 02 May 1999 17:06
Subject: LF: G2BBC/P


>Dear all.
>
>Myself and John G4GVC have just finished a portable session operating as
>G2BBC/P (my club callsign). QTH was Market Bosworth in West Leicestershire.
>We have to apologise for the massive QSB that everyone we worked commented
>on.
>The reason was the wind, or lack of it! Sometimes the kite would soar up to
>near-vertical (the 599 bits) then the wind would drop and it would slowly
>fall back allowing the wire to dangle on the ground and completely de-tune
>the system. To prevent the wire touching the ground too much I spent much
of
>the time running around with a piece of dowell to hold the drooping wire
off
>the grass...  Occasionally the kite would dive off to one side and the wire
>would get tangled around some small trees, I then had to shout to John to
>stop sending whilst I disentangled it and run back with my little stick
>supporting the wire whilst the kite took it back up!  LX1PD managed to time
>his CQ calls exactly wrong so that the kite was flying well during his
calls
>and fell out of the sky when he was listening...  better luck next time.
>The static got too bad to hear much and the picnic-ers became to numerous
to
>continue by 13:45 so when the kite came down for the umpteenth time we gave
>up.
>We worked four countries, nine stations in all.
>We'll be back!
>
>Dave G3YXM.
>
>
>


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Subject: LF: CFA (crossfield aerials)
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Hi Guy's
              It's my first time on the chat list, so please excuse any errors
in protocol, Anyway what i was wondering was has anyone tried out the 
"new" cfa aerials on lf? reliable infomation on these beast's is hard to come 
by.
But on the site http://www.antennex.com is some design info, and its chat list
has quotes from some users/builders suggesting that they have great 
possibilitys

I currently am in the stages of metal bashing one of these things together, 
but I
understand that the matching network, required for its correct operation can 
be a bit
of a pain in the bum??. 

Can anyone pass on any hints or comments about them ??

Cheers Paul G4HDS.......

microsat@aol.com
  

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Hi all,

for those interested my new e-mail address:
michael.oexner@spksuew.ron.de

Please dispose of the old Compuserve address of mine...

Enjoy the rest of the sunday!

vy 73 + gd DX,

Michael


RX: ICOM R71A, Sony ICF-SW7600G
Antenna: Radio West 22.5" ferrite loop with amplifier, 20m longwire
Location: Roschbach, Germany N 49°15' E 8°07'
Member: CSDXC, DSWCI, EUNL, LWCA, MWC
Editor of "The European NDB Handbook"
e-mail: michael.oexner@spksuew.ron.de



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From: "Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.ac.be>
Subject: Re: LF: Peter Bobek, DJ8WL.
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Like all other LF-ham the message of Peter's death struck me with unbelieve
as even in the last month you were in contact via e-mail and had the
intention to make a sked for a CW QSO between DA0LF and myself.
And I can only repeat what others told, that Peter the example a what a ham
should be : always friendly, willing to help, with great technical
knowledge and experienced 'operating skills' on the bands.

I had the same indea in mind as Graham, to do something to remember Peter : 

>I would like to suggest that we, as a group of L.F. interested people,
>should instigate some form of perpetual award, dedicated to the Memory of
>Peter, DJ8WL/DA0LF.  Maybe this could be presented annually to the station
>deemed to have achieved the best results, or generated the most interest in
>the new L.F. band.  We could use this reflector as the initial forum, but
>publicity should be sought outside, as some interested parties would not
>have access here.

One of our e-mails we exchanged the time the first transatlantic tests were
performed. He seemed to be very facinated and he told me that he saw a
transatlantic LF-QSO as one of the ultimate challenges.
So maybe we could designate this challenge to Peter by creating a kind of
'DJ8WL Memorial Trophy' that will be awarded to the first amatateur radio
stations (one in Europe and one in North-America) that perform the very
first two-way LF-QSO.


Rik, ON7YD


Rik Strobbe  ON7YD
rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.ac.be
Villadreef 14  B-3128 Baal  BELGIUM   (JO20IX)

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Due to limited time and very high QRN levels on saturday and sunday night
only few stations were heard. Conditions on friday night were exeptional as
despite the rather high QRN I could hear 2 Italian stations and OH1TN with
very strong signals. Apperantly Reino could here the I's but not the other
way round.

Stations heard (seen) :

Slow-CW : G3XDV (529), DK8KW (419)
'normal' CW : G3OLB (329), GW4ALG (539), IK5ZPV (549), OH1TN (539), I5MXX
(559), PA0LQ (589), G4GVC (549), DF2PY (589).

On friday night both OH1TN and myself tried to contact IK5ZPV and I5MXX
without result.

73, Rik



Rik Strobbe  ON7YD
rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.ac.be
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>From Dave G3YMC

It seems Rugby (60kHz) has started its annual maintenance program and is
off the air every day during daylight (including weekends) for the whole of
May.  The 73kHz RTTY also seems to be off and is still off now.  Perhaps a
good month for experiments on 73. Of course it needs the static to be off
as well, which is making 136 a bit difficult at the moment.

73s Dave G3YMC

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From: "Mike Dennison" <mike.dennison@rsgb.org.uk>
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A long weekend with dry sunny weather. This resulted in more 
current in the antenna and the neighbours not watching 
TV/computer. It also meant lower than normal LF activity.

Friday 30 April 

Heard G3BDQ (579); G3OLB (589); GW4ALG (589); G3KEV (599). 

Saturday 1 May 

Heard DF2PY (439); G3BDQ (589); G6NB (579); EI0CF (539). 

Worked G4GVC (599, 579). 

Sunday 2 May 

Very bad local noise. Also went out most of day.

Heard G3YXM (599)

By the time local noise had gone, the static was S '9'. 

Monday 3 May 

Local noise very low indeed for most of the morning - best day for 
weeks. Bad QRM from 1500.

Heard G3KEV (599); G4GVC (599), G3XTZ (5 9+10 9); G6RO 
(549), G3OLB (589).

Using QRSs and Spectrogram, QSO with ON4ZK ('O', 'O'). During 
the QSO G0MRF came up calling CQ only 3Hz away and much 
stronger than ON4ZK but made no difference to readability. 

Whilst suffering from insomnia, I heard the 137.0kHz RTTY at 
about 0130UTC on both Saturday and Sunday nights.



Mike, G3XDV (IO91VT)
http://www.dennison.demon.co.uk/activity.htm


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Static is becoming a big problem again. Tips for newcomers to LF:

(1) The static is usually much lower in the early morning - often 
none at all, even in August/September. Try breakfast time during 
the week.

(2) QRSs contacts are very much less affected by S9 static than 
aural CW. 

(3) Contrary to what you would normally do, it sometimes works to 
widen the receiver bandwidth when trying to listen to a weak station 
in heavy static. It stops the filter 'ringing'.

Mike, G3XDV (IO91VT)
http://www.dennison.demon.co.uk/activity.htm


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I have updated the drawing of my antenna (a Marconi bent into a 
triangle) on my web site and added some photographs of it.

Follow the link from the address below.



Mike, G3XDV (IO91VT)
http://www.dennison.demon.co.uk/activity.htm


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From: "Graham Phillips" <g3xtz@rgcomms.demon.co.uk>
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Subject: LF: Activity, 136, 6/5/99.
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Hi L.F.ers,

Derek, G3GRO, is kindly coming to my local Club, The Echelford Amateur Radio
Society,
on Thursday, 6th May to talk about his L.F. operation.

I plan on taking along a receiver, and small loop to try to hear some
stations  so I would be most grateful if anyone was able to be active on the
136 kHz band between about 7.30 P.M. and 9.30 P.M. There is no scope for a
TX aerial, so we will not be able to reply, but I will announce anything
heard via this reflector.

Many Thanks, in advance, de G3XTZ.

Graham B. Phillips - G3XTZ.
g3xtz@rgcomms.demon.co.uk


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Subject: LF: LF Fieldday of DL0UL/p
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Hallo Group,
a short report of the last weekends LF test by DL0UL/p.
We started building up the UHF antennas for contest operation. There was a
12m and a 17m mast with yagi groups installed. On satuday we brought up the
LW ant. I was fixed between a fir abt 15 m and the 12m mast. the spacing was
abt 120m. From the 12m mast the wire was fed over a 50 m distance to the
station. On the opposite side 4 radials each abt 150 m were spread.
TRX was a TR7 with PA.
The formation was easy to tune for matching to the 50 ohm output of my PA.
The antenna current was abt 2 A peak. But: the noise was S9 to S9 +20 dB.
And: there were interferences from the UHF station (432 MHz) . The noise was
caused by the AC generator and the different computer monitors and switching
powersupplies but the UHF operators were not willing to switch off for a few
hours.
To heare any signal on the band we had to turn on a 30 dB attenuator. So we
only could work a few stations in the suoth germany area. There was

DJ7RD  at 0605  got 589 gave 559 
DJ2EY  at 0615       589         539
DJ2LF      0623        569        539
DF2PY     0803        549        539

After one hour of calling CQ the Equipment started oscillating on abt 50 khz
during the unkeyed gaps. So we stoped the operation.

Result:
It is not possible to run a big VHF or UHF contest station parallel to a LF
station. 
So:  For the next LF fieldtest we are going to use only battery supply, no
computers and any other trouble making equipment.
We are going to Implement bandpass filters to the RX ant TX path. A loop
antenna is under development, may be only for RX operation or for RX and TX.
We will see. And we are planing to run a KW station for X-band operation
next event.

Fortunately the weather was dry and sunny. A few of us ever got a sunburn.
So the whole equipment (LF and UHF) including the tents was easy  to
dismantle. 

We are planing to make a new LF test with improverd equipment.

73 de DL1SAN


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From: YO2IS
 Hello from KN05ps, am still around following the LF-net debates and
learning from others experience. Just finished for the last weekend
the new Loop, a 2m diam. hexagon, 10 turns in a good quality multifilar
telephone cable. The loop tuned sharp on 137 KHz with abt. 400 pF, and
can rotate it with a h.m. rotor used earlier with my 2 el 50Mhz Quad !.
 The loop is inside the roof space, conected to a KRLR style preamp.
(BF 247, BC 252) and feed with 8m 75 Ohm coax to LF/80m convertor using
a single uA 796 & a 4 MHz Xtal osc. Signals of the DCF 39 are at S9 plus
and can hear equaly well the 135.8 signal from Greece. The most important
is that got a sharp null on the local mains noise. Have heard some QRS
CW on 137,.. KHz, but am not familiar to DSP, my PC (486DX50) seems to be
inadeqaute...do hope my EME experience will help to copy some weak CW, hi.
 Have read in the hungarian ham magazine "Radiotehnika" 3/99, that HA2PP
and HA3IS are interested in LF. Also HA8BE, a "top band" specialist, told 
me on 2m FM, that he will be soon QRV on 137 KHz. After an enthuziastic
start, no more signs about LF from Slovakia (OM). 73 & DX, Szigy.






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In a message dated 05/05/99 07:32:22 GMT Daylight Time, 
Wolfgang.Koenig@vs.dasa.de writes:

<< Subj:	 LF: LF Fieldday of DL0UL/p
 Date:	05/05/99 07:32:22 GMT Daylight Time
 From:	Wolfgang.Koenig@vs.dasa.de (Koenig, Wolfgang)
 Sender:	owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
 Reply-to:	rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
 To:	rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ('rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org')
 
 File:  Unknown (2731 bytes)
 DL Time (32000 bps): < 1 minute
  >>

I've been a bit cautious since the e-mail attached virus a few weeks ago.

So when files called unknown etc are downloaded automatically into my system 
and I find they are not mentioned in the body of their host e-mail - they 
just get deleted and not opened.  If you send attached files please tell us 
what they are in the e-mail text.

I'm probably missing some good news this way, but better safe than a victim 
of "Melissa"  or "Chernobyl"


Well done on the LF QSOs.   Look forward to working you on the next one.

Thanks


David

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Hello Group,

G0MRF@aol.com wrote:
 
> I've been a bit cautious since the e-mail attached virus a few weeks ago.
> 
> So when files called unknown etc are downloaded automatically into my system
> and I find they are not mentioned in the body of their host e-mail - they
> just get deleted and not opened.  If you send attached files please tell us
> what they are in the e-mail text.
> 
> I'm probably missing some good news this way, but better safe than a victim
> of "Melissa"  or "Chernobyl"

Hmm! Using LINUX here... :)

> Well done on the LF QSOs.   Look forward to working you on the next one.

Me too!

54°16'N / 10°04'E, JO54ag
73 es gl de Peter, DF3LP

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Hallo Group,
I am sorry but i did not attach any file. The message was an ascii file
typed in staight forward from the keyboard. If there are any problems
reading the file, I can send it again.

73 de Wolf DL1SAN

> ----------
> Von: 	G0MRF@aol.com[SMTP:G0MRF@aol.com]
> Antwort an: 	rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Gesendet: 	Mittwoch, 5. Mai 1999 23:00
> An: 	rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Betreff: 	Re: LF: LF Fieldday of DL0UL/p
> 
> In a message dated 05/05/99 07:32:22 GMT Daylight Time, 
> Wolfgang.Koenig@vs.dasa.de writes:
> 
> << Subj:	 LF: LF Fieldday of DL0UL/p
>  Date:	05/05/99 07:32:22 GMT Daylight Time
>  From:	Wolfgang.Koenig@vs.dasa.de (Koenig, Wolfgang)
>  Sender:	owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>  Reply-to:	rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>  To:	rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ('rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org')
>  
>  File:  Unknown (2731 bytes)
>  DL Time (32000 bps): < 1 minute
>   >>
> 
> I've been a bit cautious since the e-mail attached virus a few weeks ago.
> 
> So when files called unknown etc are downloaded automatically into my
> system 
> and I find they are not mentioned in the body of their host e-mail - they 
> just get deleted and not opened.  If you send attached files please tell
> us 
> what they are in the e-mail text.
> 
> I'm probably missing some good news this way, but better safe than a
> victim 
> of "Melissa"  or "Chernobyl"
> 
> 
> Well done on the LF QSOs.   Look forward to working you on the next one.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> David
> 

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Although not "officially" on the air 24 hours a day yet, the AMRAD LF
Beacon is being tested even as we speak, and you may be able to hear
it.
Our beacon is installed in Vienna, Virginia. (38-53-24 North, 77-15-43
West).
We currently transmit on 136,750 with approximately 25 watts. Our
message, sent at 10 wpm, consists in a series of Vs and our call-sign
(WA2XTF/6). This is followed by a 5 second dash, a 5 second silence,
and another 5 second dash, to allow for signal/noise level
measurements.
73
Andre' N4ICK



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Hello Group,
Hi Wolfgang,

"Koenig, Wolfgang" wrote:

> I am sorry but i did not attach any file. The message was an ascii file
> typed in staight forward from the keyboard. If there are any problems
> reading the file, I can send it again.

No problem to read your mails even under Solaris or Linux.

Indeed there are always attached files at your mails, called
"Inbox" containing a lot of binary data around your mail text. I
found the following note at the beginning of the attachment :
"@IPM.Microsoft Mail.Note@1HAE". May be it could help to
identify it.

54°16'N / 10°04'E, JO54ag
73 es gl de Peter, DF3LP

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From: "Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.ac.be>
Subject: Re: AW: LF: LF Fieldday of DL0UL/p
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At 16:25 6/05/99 +0200, you wrote:
>Hello Group,
>Hi Wolfgang,
>
>"Koenig, Wolfgang" wrote:
>
>> I am sorry but i did not attach any file. The message was an ascii file
>> typed in staight forward from the keyboard. If there are any problems
>> reading the file, I can send it again.
>
>No problem to read your mails even under Solaris or Linux.
>
>Indeed there are always attached files at your mails, called
>"Inbox" containing a lot of binary data around your mail text. I
>found the following note at the beginning of the attachment :
>"@IPM.Microsoft Mail.Note@1HAE". May be it could help to
>identify it.

Hello Wolfgang,

I noticed that your mails that reach me via the LF reflector always have
some kind of binary file attached while your direct mail to me is 'clean'
(no attached files).
Maybe that helps you to find the source of this unwanted attachements.

73, Rik


Rik Strobbe  ON7YD
rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.ac.be
Villadreef 14  B-3128 Baal  BELGIUM   (JO20IX)

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In a message dated 04/05/99 06:38:05 GMT Daylight Time, 
sergeantd@compuserve.com writes:

<< 
 From Dave G3YMC
 
 It seems Rugby (60kHz) has started its annual maintenance program and is
 off the air every day during daylight (including weekends) for the whole of
 May.  The 73kHz RTTY also seems to be off and is still off now.  Perhaps a
 good month for experiments on 73. Of course it needs the static to be off
 as well, which is making 136 a bit difficult at the moment.
  >>
Hello group.

Well spotted Dave.

If the RTTY is off  tonight, Friday,  I'll  try my luck on 71.90kHz  from 
around 19.00 UTC
Will be able to work 73-73  or 73 - 136k.  normal CW 2 way or  QRS on TX only

0958 502540   and I'll call back.

73   David

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Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 13:05:24 -0400
From: "'Geri' Kinzel, DK8KW" <DK8KW@compuserve.com>
Subject: LF: QRN vs. QRNN
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Hello Lowfers,

I found the follwoing in the ARRL Letter Online 
(Volume 18, Number 19 of May 7, 1999):

----------------------------- quote
-------------------------------------------------

QRN vs QRNN? A member recently asked about the distinction
between QRN and QRNN. A search of our QST database via the
ARRLWeb Members Only page revealed the source of this made-up
Q-signal. It appeared as a Stray in the August 1931 issue of QST:

"W6KX suggests a new abbreviation, QRNN, meaning man-made static,
power leaks, etc. The difference between QRNN and plain QRN is that
the former may let up in a short time, while the latter, when bad, usually
lasts for some hours." 

Our Spring 1931 edition of the Callbook revealed
that W6KX, since reissued, was held in 1931 by Keith LaBar of
Hollywood, California. The term reportedly has limited currency today
on the amateur bands and in SWL circles. 

--------------------------- unquote
----------------------------------------------

Does'n this sound familiar to us who are active on longwave? Seems thay
had those problems already sixty years ago.

Best 73

Geri, DK8KW (W1KW)
http://www.dk8kw.home.pages.de


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From: "Petr Maly" <petr.maly@hk.cro.cz>
To: "'137 kHz'" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject: LF: First report
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 07:31:48 +-200
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Hello guys.

For the first time, since I got interested in LF, I spent weekend in my second QTH, weekend cottage in JO80CD. As int I used vertical abt 15mtrs with capacitancy hat. Actually, it was 1/3 lambda GPA for 28 MHz hung on nylon rope between trees, coax shielding and middle wire joined together on RX side (BTW is it correct in English to say "hatted" vertical?). On saturday evening at 1917 UTC, on 136.7 kHz,  I heard pretty well I5MXX with RST 539. Not too strong but quite stable and readable. He sent CQ in normal CW for several tens of minutes. It is for the first time that I heard HAM station on the band for me.

Result:
My IC-751A seems not suffer from cross-modulation since insertion of 20 dB attenuator did not help to clear the band. But it urgently needs some preamlification because I had to have both RF and AF gain turned fully clock-wise.

73 Petr, OK1FIG


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From: "Soegiono, Gamal" <soegiono@nmex01nt.hsd.utc.com>
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Hello all

despite "high" local noise managed to copy:

May 09/1999

08:58 UTC
137.1?? 
heared "CQ DE DJ1RL"
BW=200Hz
S(DJ1RL)=?


14:28 UTC
137.1??
heared "CQ DE DJ1RL"
BW=200Hz
S(DJ1RL)=?
S(137.4 carr)=-89dBm
S(noise floor)=-93dBm


Best 73 

Gamal Soegiono (SWL)

50N01 / 08E27 / JO 40 fa
soegiono@nm.hsd.utc.com
soegiono@nmex01nt.hsd.utc.com






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From: "Soegiono, Gamal" <soegiono@nmex01nt.hsd.utc.com>
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Subject: LF: spectrum list update
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Hi all,

it's now 12 months ago I started collecting stations on
frequencies below 153 kHz and put them into a list.
Here is an update which can be merged into former distributed
list.

May 07/1999 21:05 - 21:55 UTC

Location	Lattitude	Longitude	Locator
RAUNHEIM (F16)	50o 01' N	08o 27' E	JO 40 FA

Hz;dBm;mode;IF-BW;Ant.;bearing;station (infos drawn from Klawitter
>Lang- und Laengstwellenfunk<, ISBN 3-922221-77-7);remarks

11 8;-101;CW;200;ARA60 (4);-;not identified;Alpha ?
12 6;-106;CW;200;ARA60 (4);-;not identified;Alpha ?
? 15 0 ?;-97;CW;200;ARA60 (4);-;Audio like DCF49;? IMP ?
18 1;-84;CW;200;ARA60 (4);-;not identified;FSK
19 6;-94;CW;200;ARA60 (4);-;not identified;FSK
20 3;-91;CW;200;ARA60 (4);-;not identified;FSK
20 9;-80;CW;200;ARA60 (4);-;not identified;FSK
? 22 0 ?;-103;CW;200;ARA60 (4);-;Audio like time signal;? IMP ?
23 4;-76;CW;200;ARA60 (4);-;not identified;FSK
? 26 0 ?;-94;CW;200;ARA60 (4);-;Audio like time signal;? IMP ?
37 5;-80;CW;200;ARA60 (4);-;not identified;FSK
45 9;-55;CW;200;ARA60 (4);-;not identified;FSK
51 9;-60;CW;200;ARA60 (4);-;not identified;FSK
53 4;-69;CW;200;ARA60 (4);-;not identified;FSK
57 4;-87;CW;200;ARA60 (4);-;not identified;FSK
57 7;-69;CW;200;ARA60 (4);-;not identified;FSK
60 000;-53;CW;200;ARA60 (4);-;MSF;Standard time&frequency
62 6;-50;CW;200;ARA60 (4);-;not identified;FSK
65 8;-64;CW;200;ARA60 (4);-;not identified;FSK
66 6;tbd;CW;200;ARA60 (4);-;not identified;Standard time&frequency
68 0;-64;CW;200;ARA60 (4);-;not identified;FSK
68 9;-49;CW;200;ARA60 (4);-;not identified;FSK
75 0;-66;CW;200;ARA60 (4);-;HBG;Standard time&frequency
77 500;-29;CW;50;ARA60 (4);-;DCF 77;Standard time&frequency
81 0;-54;CW;200;ARA60 (4);-;not identified;FSK
118 8;-80;CW;200;ARA60 (4);-;not identified;FSK
122 3;-69;CW;200;ARA60 (4);-;not identified;FSK
122 500;-45;CW;50;ARA60 (4);-;DCF 42, DGPS signal, Mainflingen;Pilot
tone
128 930;-21;CW;50;ARA60 (4);-;DCF 49, RC signal, Mainflingen;mark
frequency
129 8;-74;CW;200;ARA60 (4);-;not identified;FSK
135 360;-75;CW;50;ARA60 (4);-;3rd order Intermodulation;carriers (DCF49
& DCF42)
135 7;-74;CW;200;ARA60 (4);-;?? the greek station ??;FSK
138 830;-46;CW;50;ARA60 (4);-;DCF 39, RC signal, Burg;mark frequency
153 000;-20;CW;50;ARA60 (4);-;DLF, Donebach (day/night 
500/250 kW);AM audio

data delimiter = ";"
ARA60(4) = active, electric, broadband antenna, mounted
outdoors on top of 4 m mast. Mfr=Dressler
LW3 =  active, magnetic, tuned antenna, indoors Mfr=Grahn


Best 73 

Gamal Soegiono (SWL)

50N01 / 08E27 / JO 40 fa
soegiono@nm.hsd.utc.com
soegiono@nmex01nt.hsd.utc.com






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Last night (sunday 9 may) I worked F6CNI on 136kHz (2-way !). This was my
DXCC nr. 11, I am still 'missing' EI, OZ and SM.
More detailled weekend report comes later today.

73, Rik


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Again very little time to be active on LF this weekend. Spent most of
saturday at the UBA annual meeting and sunday was 'motherday' here in
Belgium so we visited my and my wife's parents. I could be QRV all evenings
(but on friday and saturday QRN was very high) and sunday morning for 1
hour (6.30 to 7.30 UTC).
On sunday night propagation was very strange with up to 20dB QSB on DCF39
and DX stations as I5MXX and OH1TN 'in and out' for about 2 hours (20 to 22
UTC). I5MXX peaked 589 for about 10 minutes, he was that strong that even
LX1PD heard him and had a QSO. Unfortunately by the time they finished
their QSO I5MXX was back down to 549 and I missed him once more :)
But 'highlight' of the weekend was a QSO with F6CNI (DXCC nr. 11) who was
worked on sunday night with 529/459 reports. Welcome to LF France !

Seen in slow-CW : DJ5AO (O)

Heard in 'normal' CW :
HB9ASB (419) G3BDQ (529), PA0LQ (589), G3YXM (579), G4GVC (559), G3KEV
(589), G3GRO/P (549), PA0MLC (559), OZ1KMR (579), F6CNI (529), LX1PD (599),
I5MXX (589), G3XTZ (559), OH1TN (549).

Other observations on sunday night :
- while G3KEV worked I5MXX, Mario ware not audible at all here (little
later he was 589)
- while G3YXM worked HB9ASB and gave him 559, Toni was only 419 with me.
The sun must have been in a strange mood ....

73, Rik


Rik Strobbe  ON7YD
rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.ac.be
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Hello LF guys!
Very nice conditions on LF last sunday.
On 8 May worked:
0726z G3YXM 559, 0758z G4GVC 539, 0809z G3KEV 579 !!.No qsb during all qsos.
2055z LX1PD 559 qsb, new country for me.

73 de Marzio I5MXX 


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From: "Mike Dennison" <mike.dennison@rsgb.org.uk>
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Excellent conditions this weekend with fairly low man-made QRN 
(QRNN). Heard/saw 9 countries!

Saturday 8 May 

Heard: HB9ASB (329); GW4ALG (559); IK5ZPV, the first time 
heard by ear though seen by Spectrogram before (549 at 2145UTC 
fading to 539 at 2240); G3BDQ (579); OH1TN (429).

Saw on Spectrogram screen: ON4ZK (audible at 539).

Worked: G4GVC (599/579). 

Sunday 9 May 

Another quiet day, though QRN increased in the afternoon.

Heard: G3KEV (589); G3GRO (599) and G3GRO/P at Crawley 
Club (599); PA0LQ (439); LX1PD (569); G3BDQ (579); I5MXX (339) 
working LX1PD - a first?; OH1TN (539).

Worked: G3YMC (3/4 3 9 / 579).

Worked using QRSs DJ5AO (gave 'M', got 'O') for a new one, 
number 34 worked on 136kHz (7 using QRSs). 


Mike, G3XDV (IO91VT)
http://www.dennison.demon.co.uk/activity.htm


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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:04:39 -0400
From: "Prof R. Jennison" <boffin1@compuserve.com>
Subject: LF: re: Weekend Reports 8/9 May
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I was interested to see that all the weekend reports up to the time of
writing this note concerned 136 kHz.
I had hoped that there might have been some activity on 73 kHz.  Rugby was
off the air all weekend and may remain so for a little while -  a chance in
a lifetime !!  I ran my beacon on Saturday and Sunday but have received no
reports.

Sadly I shall be dawdling in the Dordoign and basking in the Basque region
for three weeks starting this Friday but I will set up my beacon on
Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday.  Normal, but rather slow, cw.  Probable
frequency between 71.9 and 72.1        

   If necessary telephone 01227 761530.

73,  Roger,  G2AJV

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From: "Graham Phillips" <g3xtz@rgcomms.demon.co.uk>
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Subject: LF: Thursday Evening ... Thanks !
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 22:38:50 +0100
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Hi all L.F. ers

I would like to thank all the stations who activated the band during
Thursday evening ... I understand that quite a few were on, but I am afraid
that we had an awful local QRM problem, and the only signal received was the
50 Watt beacon that David, G0MRF radiated.  This was only just about
detectable.   Derek, G3GRO's talk on LF operating was very well received,
and the display of equipment by Derek and Leck, G3KAU, who also attended,
was very interesting.  He managed to cover an amazing number of topics in
about an hour and a half, and we felt that he could have filled another
couple of hours quite easily.

73 de

Graham B. Phillips - G3XTZ.
g3xtz@rgcomms.demon.co.uk


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From: "Mike Dennison" <mike.dennison@rsgb.org.uk>
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> I was interested to see that all the weekend reports up to the time of
> writing this note concerned 136 kHz.
G2AJV wrote:
> I had hoped that there might have been some activity on 73 kHz.  Rugby was
> off the air all weekend and may remain so for a little while -  a chance in
> a lifetime !!  I ran my beacon on Saturday and Sunday but have received no
> reports.
> 

I was unaware of this opportunity until late in the weekend, but will 
put out a signal on 73kHz later this week. If anyone wants skeds 
this weekend, please e-mail me (mike@dennison.demon.co.uk).



Mike, G3XDV (IO91VT)
http://www.dennison.demon.co.uk/activity.htm


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From: "Mike Dennison" <mike.dennison@rsgb.org.uk>
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The first commercial 136kHz transmitter, the Ropex 'First', is 
reviewed by Dave, G3YXM, in the June edtion of Radio Today which 
is in the shops now.

Copies also available by mail-order, see http://www.rsgb.org/rtoday/


Mike, G3XDV (IO91VT)
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The Ropex "First" was also reviewed in the AMRAD Newsletter for May-June
1999, page 7.
Andre' N4ICK
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Mike Dennison wrote:

> The first commercial 136kHz transmitter, the Ropex 'First', is
> reviewed by Dave, G3YXM, in the June edtion of Radio Today which
> is in the shops now.

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The Ropex "First" was also reviewed in the AMRAD Newsletter for May-June
1999, page 7.
Andre' N4ICK
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Mike Dennison wrote:

> The first commercial 136kHz transmitter, the Ropex 'First', is
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> is in the shops now.

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Subject: Re: LF: Weekend reports 8/9 May
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>From Derek Atter,  G3GRO.

Over the weekend 8/9 th May I was active at various times from the Crawley
Club Station using G3GRO/P with 250W RF to the 120m inverted "L" antenna
with the horizontal single wire top section up at 20m.  Was also using a
single-turn square receiving loop with 12m sides,  phased with the main
antenna to very effectively cancel the very strong Loran pulse interference
present for much of the day

Activity on Saturday 8th. seemed to be pretty low with very bad QRN in the
late afternoon and the only station I worked was Harry PA0LQ who was 539
and gave me 579.

On  Sunday 9th. Activity during the daytime seemed disappointingly low but
QRN levels lower than the previous day.  Worked John, G4GVC (589); Andy
G4HYU in Louth (579), Dave G3YMC  and Marcus, PA0MLC in Arnhem (539).
Conditions peaked very noticeably later in the evening and for the first
time heard OZ1KMN (549) at 20.00 UT,  I5MXX at 20.50 UT who peaked to 549
over quite a short period of time and LX1PD but despite several calls to
each, no QSOs resulted! Also heard Toni HB9ASB at 539 working Dave G3YXM.  
Discovered that using the canceller system to null out Loran (which lies on
a bearing of about 210 deg. from me) works very well for most stations but 
I suddenly realised that 

 seemed to peak from about 20.00 UT

I have been relatively inactive on 136Khz in recent weeks due to a very
high local noise level which has 

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From: "John Rabson" <word.factory@zetnet.co.uk>
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Subject: LF: 136 kHz Report Sunday morning 16 May 1999
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Between 1030 and 1045 UTC today, at a rural location about 5 km east of
Ipswich, I heard:

G3GRO/P (569) workinjg GW4ALG (229)
G3KEV (589)
G3YXM (569)

The RX was a CM Howes DC2000 modified for LF, plus an 80 cm square loop
(335 uH)

73 de G3PAI
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From: "Petr Maly" <petr.maly@hk.cro.cz>
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Subject: LF: Weekend report 16/5/99
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Hello LowFers.
This weekend I proved one old truth. ANTENNA is the best amplifier. I made inverted L ant, where the vertical part was 21 m, the horizontal part is 32 m, most of horizontal part is in height 15 m above ground. Ant is stretched up to a high slope, so it is actually someting between inv L and a vertical ant. I tuned and matched this antenna with home-made variometer and some big coils. I was surprised. Signals came up few tens of dBs. Ground noise moves S-meter around S1 even during day, RTTY stn from Greece peaks S9 + 10 dB in night, DBF39 is all the time above S9 + 40dB. Now I feel no need to make any preselector, preamlifier or anything. IC-751A seems to manage theese signals. My listening was interrupted by heating in stoves and by ice hockey championship (hi...). This is the log here (reports given "by ear", not by S-meter):

15.5. 1320  136.9   DF2PQ     549  QRN,  cq cq...   (callsign perhaps wrong)
        1645  136.8   DF2PY     589 cq cq...
        1757  136.2   OZ1KMR  579  cq cq...
        1950  136.8   IK5ZPV     559 QSX 1837, gave JN53KX name VALT
16.5. 0610  136.9   DF2PY     589 worked DJ5BV gave 569 op WOLF, qth nr BINGEN  JN49AX
            52  137.1   DJ7RD     529  cq cq...
        0735  136.9   I5MXX       529  cq cq...
        0811  136.7   DF2PY     569   cq cq...

The strongest signal was from DF2PY. Sometimes it seemed to me that he is on 80m band, not on 2 km. For one of the next weekends I prepare even longer ant, better ATU and I try to get 136 kHz signal from my tcvr. I believe that it must be present somewhere around first mixer. Only to tap the right point to have signal for PA.

73 Petr, OK1FIG


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hello Lowfers !
I recently put up a new 32m vertikal antenna with 5 topload wires.Had it tuned 
by saturday and it seems to be doing ok.I want to have more topload but that has 
to wait a bit.A curiosity was, that the Rhine river flooded briefly and the 
water surrounded the base insulator- gave me the best ground ever !
I could see the water approach on the reflectometer. Worked on fast-CW with
HB9DCE,PA0LQ,DJ5BV,I5MXX,DF8ZR,HB9ASB,G3YXM,DJ5DI,G3KEV.In general the morning 
hours seemed to yield better propagation.
						73 de wolf -df2py-
P.S. : i`ll keep my CQs shorter in the future- hi


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Subject: LF: weekend report (13-16 may 1999)
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Due to the 'long weekend' of 13-16 may my weekend report covers this period.
Lot of activity and despite heavy QRN often very good night condx.
This weekend I noticed once more that I have very different propagation to
the I5 region (IK5ZPV, I5MXX) compared to the UK. While several UK stations
can work the I5's with rather good signals in the morning I do only hear
them (the I5's) very weak or even not at all. But at night I heard both
IK5ZPV and I5MXX with extreme strong signals (up to 589), best time seems
to be 20-22UT.
I should check the propagation path between I5 and me in detail but I think
that the Alps form an obstruction and skywave propagation is needed to get
over it. Maybe toward the UK the path just 'misses' the Alps.

Stations 'seen' in slow-CW :
DJ5AO (O), HB9ASB (529), DJ5BV (549)
Stations heard in normal CW :
DJ5BV (549), PA0MLC (549), OH1TN (529), OK5ZPV (579), HB9ASB (529), G4GVC
(549), G3XTZ (569), PA0CC (579), F6CNI (539), G4GRO/P (559), GW4ALG (539),
G3KEV (579), G3BDQ (529), PA0SE (589), I5MXX (319), G3YXM (579), OZ1KMR (579)

73, Rik


Rik Strobbe  ON7YD
rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.ac.be
Villadreef 14  B-3128 Baal  BELGIUM   (JO20IX)

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From: "Mike Dennison" <mike.dennison@rsgb.org.uk>
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Saturday 15 May 

Heard G3GRO/P (599); G3KEV (589); GW4ALG (579 in morning, 
589 in evening); G4GVC (599); G3XTZ (5 9+10 9); PA0LQ (549). 

Worked F6CNI for country number 8 (gave 439, got 559). 

Sunday 16 May 

A very quiet band in the first five minutes of operating. Heard 
G4GVC (599); PA0SE (559); G3YMC (529); G3OLB (589).

I put out a slow CW CQ, then next door's games computer started 
up and was S9+10dB all day - for 14 hours!!! End of activity!



Mike, G3XDV (IO91VT)
http://www.dennison.demon.co.uk/activity.htm


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I was pleased to hear Roger's 73kHz beacon on air earlier in the week.   
Although a little down on its usual level, I was suspicious that my converter 
wasn't performing as well as it does on 136k.

Using Roger's beacon and some transmissions on 136 as test sources, I 
discovered that my receiver was being "de-sensed" by the level of local 
oscillator feedthrough.

The converter upconverts the LF band to an IF of 10MHz. Unfortunately the 
closer you get to "10MHZ" the lower the performance.  136 is OK but 73 was 
poor in comparison.

As I have already fitted a multi turn pot to optimise carrier balance on the 
MC1496, I appeared to need a very narrow filter on the output.  normal coils 
/ caps were no use, but the answer came in the form of an 86 pence 10MHz 
ceramic resonator from RS components.

I fitted two small ferrite transformers with a 1:9 and 9:1 ratio back to back 
on the output of the converter. From the centre point (at 350 Ohms) I 
connected the resonator in series with a 65pF variable to ground.  Listening 
to the 10MHz breakthrough and tuning the capacitor I managed to reduce the 
level by 27 - 28dB.

The performance on both bands has been improved.  MDS on 136 has been 
improved by about 1 -2 dB,   but 73k  is 10dB better than before!

The technique could be useful to anyone trying to build a robust RX (DL) 
using high level diode ring mixers.

resonant frequency of the "notch filter" could be set anywhere from 9.6 MHz 
to 10.05MHz.

73


David

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Subject: Re: LF: 73kHz
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>From Dave G3YMC

<It seems Rugby (60kHz) has started its annual maintenance program and is
< off the air every day during daylight (including weekends) for the whole
of
< May.  The 73kHz RTTY also seems to be off and is still off now.  Perhaps
a
< good month for experiments on 73. Of course it needs the static to be off
< as well, which is making 136 a bit difficult at the moment.

It seems that this year Rugby finished their maintenance month early as
both GBR on 60kHz and the 73kHz RTTY have been going full strength since
early last week.  I did listen on 73 a few times but heard nothing.

73s Dave G3YMC

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From: "Kate Moore" <mek@leicester.ac.uk>
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Stations worked here last weekend using normal speed CW:

Friday 14/5
 PA0CC (08.30UT: he was 579, gave me 469QRN).

Saturday 15/5
 GW4ALG (06.56: 589, 589), F6CNI (07.14: 559, 589), G3GRO/P (07.39: 589,
589)
PA0LQ (08.16: 569, 579), G3CCH (14.03: 559, 569), G3YXM (15.42: 59+9, 59+9).

Sunday 16/5
 PA0SE (07.15: 579, 57/89), HB9ASB (07.55: 339QSB, 229).

Serious crises with Kate's parents in Scotland the previous weekend greatly
reduced the time I had available to operate recently, and meant I was
without
e-mail for all of last week, so......

As well as having the excellent QSO with Marzio I5MXX on Sunday 9th, I also
had a short QSO with Andre F6CNI at 07.02UT, giving him RST-559 and getting
579 back. As far as I am aware this was the first 2-way QSO Andre made on LF
and I was astonished to learn that he was running only 16 Watts RF giving an
estimated ERP of 6mW! When he gets permission to run his QRO TX, he is going
to be a big signal over much of Europe. Last Thursday (13/5) I worked Andre
again at 20.50UT despite very high QRN levels and also called IK5ZPV (who
peaked 569 that evening) a few times, although Valerio didn't hear me
through
the static this time. Observations here are that the Italian stations are
stronger mid-evening than during the morning peak, despite the higher band
noise.
                        ........................

Conditions seemed good last Saturday morning although, as usual, few
stations
were about to take advantage. Conversely, Sunday morning DX was particularly
poor with I5MXX and HB9ASB both a couple of S-points down on usual. The QSO
with Toni was quite a struggle, and I am continually amazed at how much the
path between us changes from QSO to QSO, particularly remembering the 9th
April QSO when we exchanged 569 reports in both directions! Interestingly,
Dick PA0SE gave me a better than usual report over the shorter path......

Throughout the weekend I joined a number of stations who were calling DF2PY
repeatedly, but did not manage a QSO. Wolf's TX signal was very good with
his
new antenna (peaking 569 here), but despite having worked 7 other German
stations now on normal speed CW, I have still not been heard by Wolf. It's
interesting to note that the only G stations who have are running the
maximum
possible ERP......


         Regards  John G4GVC near Leicester, IO92JP


    **  TX: Synth + 400W RF from modified 'G3YXM' Mosfet PA           **
    **  RX: TS-850S with 3 x CW filters and 0.5ppm TCXO               **
    **  Ant: Inv-L 60m long, 6m high at feed end, 12m high at far end **



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From: "Johan Bodin" <sm6lkm.jbeab@swipnet.se>
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Hello all,

I have uploaded a schematic diagram of my 74HC4053 up-converter
to my web site.

http://home4.swipnet.se/~w-41522/lfconv/lfconv.html

I haven't made any measurements on it but it seems to work
very well. There is no input filter on the converter. A tuned loop
with preamp provides adequate front end selectivity.

73 de Johan, SM6LKM
 


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From: "Mike Dennison" <mike.dennison@rsgb.org.uk>
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I notice that the DX Cluster had three 'spots' (stations heard) from 
RK2FWA, Kaliningrad, last weekend, as follows:

136.6 GW4ALG      cq                            2330 15 May
137.2 OH1TN       cq                            2223 15 May
137.1 IK5ZPV      cq                            2037 15 May

For those without packet access to it, the cluster is available on 
the web - I don't know how far behind real time it is.

There is a link to it from my web site.


Mike, G3XDV (IO91VT)
http://www.dennison.demon.co.uk/activity.htm


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The April 1999 issue of  the US "RF Design" magazine has an article
"Understanding range limitations for low-frequency unlicensed
transmissions" about  FCC "Part 15"  transmitters for local data links that
are so low power they don't need licensing. One of the bands they use is
160-190 kHz limited to a DC power INPUT to the amplifier of 1 watt and an
antenna no bigger than 15 metres. The author calculates a range of  12 kms
if everything is optimum (including zero ground loss!) but he also gets a
range of  375 kms for a one-tenth watt (DC input) transmitter on 1705 kHz
using a 3 metre antenna so I guess it's all a bit suspect. Anyway, he gives
the formulae and makes some pertinent points about transmission path and
background noise problems so it might be a handy summary for anyone new to
LF.   
Walter G3JKV.



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Good morning from ZL where the QRN is reducing as winter approaches.

Walter G3JKV mentioned the RF Design article on low power LF propagation.
Nat ZL3VN and myself have regular QSOs using backyard sized antennas and
QRP over a 300km (mostly sea) path on 181.4kHz. We find that 1 watt
transmitter output is sufficient for R5 regular CW most of the time.
Dropping to 0.5 watts output makes readability marginal. However, the
signals are regular CW in a 500 hz bandwidth so there is certainly scope
for extending the distance or reducing the power greatly.

Mike ZL4OL  

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Hello de Gerald, OE1GOD - Vienna, Austria



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Hello Gerald,

read you loud and clear :-).

Best 73 

Gamal Soegiono (SWL)

50N01 / 08E27 / JO 40 fa
soegiono@nmex01nt.hsd.utc.com

> -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> Von:	Gerald_Moritz@pskdd.psk.co.at
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> Gesendet am:	Donnerstag, 20. Mai 1999 13:05
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> Betreff:	LF: Hello World
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> 
> 
> 
> Hello de Gerald, OE1GOD - Vienna, Austria
> 





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Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 01:47:24 -0400
From: "Dave Sergeant" <sergeantd@compuserve.com>
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>From Dave G3YMC

Forwarded message from Steve Rawlings.  Hope his ISP gets sorted soon!

[ Hi Dave,
[ I'd be grateful if you could forward this to the LF Group, as my ISP
[ (Cable OnLine) appears to have been blacklisted by the reflector!
[ Thanks, Steve.

**************************************************************************

Mike Dennison, G3XDV wrote:

> I notice that the DX Cluster had three 'spots' (stations heard) from
> RK2FWA, Kaliningrad, last weekend, as follows:
>
> 136.6 GW4ALG      cq                            2330 15 May
> 137.2 OH1TN       cq                            2223 15 May
> 137.1 IK5ZPV      cq                            2037 15 May

Wow!  This was indeed exciting news for me.  Many thanks for forwarding
the reports, Mike - well spotted!  And RK2FWA is to be congratulated on
hearing my signals.  I had been calling CQ for some time on Saturday
night, and I went QRT about 1:00am Sunday (0000 UTC), after receiving no
replies.

Steve Rawlings GW4ALG

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Hallo Gerald !
Mein Name ist Wolf- df2py- ich bin am Wochenende immer auf 136.8 oder 136.9
QRV.Bitte versuchs doch mal mich zu empfangen . Meine Tel. Nr ist in Deutschland
06132- 88292 - bin auch in Packet eingeloggt bei DB0SPC-8  .
Freue mich auf ein QSO !!     73 de wolf
>


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This is a test via Cable Online using an alternative outgoing mail
server.

Regards to all,
Steve


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Hi Marzio !
You had an outstanding signal again ! And the most interesting thing was,that I 
DID NOT HEAR A BEEP FROM DJ7RD whom You worked before me !!
Did You work crossband ?? he is only 100 km away from here and normally i can 
hear him ok,there must have been some kind of searchlight-effect, like on 160m 
band ! please let me know whether You guys were doing crossband,that would 
relief me from real complicated thoughts- hi.
Anyways looking forward to work You again- ciao Marzio ! de wolf df2py


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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 02:46:21 -0400
From: "'Geri' Kinzel, DK8KW" <DK8KW@compuserve.com>
Subject: LF: 23.5.99: good condx to Southern Europe (2nd trial)
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Hello lowfers,

someone mentioned, that around midnight the conditions are sometimes 
good. Well, since we have a holiday today (Monday), I had the opportunity 
to check this yesterday night. Right, I had a nice crossband QSO with
IK5OVP in JN53KX, 928 km away. His signal was -121 dBm(75) in the 
peak wich is a couple of dB over the noiselevel. I transmitted on 160m, 
which is a little bit tricky, as I use my IC-746 and the antenna for 160m 
as well as for 136 kHz. I have to switch 4 switches from transmit to
receive
and vice versa...

One thing I noticed after the QSO was the good signal strength of the 
"Greek Beacon" around 135.8 kHz. While this is normally up to
-104 dBm(75), it was up to -92 dBm(75) yesterday night.

Best 73

Geri, DK8KW (W1KW)

dk8kw@compuserve.com
http://www.dk8kw.home.pages.de

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In a message dated 24/05/99 07:49:30 GMT Daylight Time, DK8KW@compuserve.com 
writes:

<< IK5OVP in JN53KX, 928 km away. His signal was -121 dBm(75) in the 
 peak wich is a couple of dB over the noiselevel. I transmitted on 160m, 
 which is a little bit tricky, as I use my IC-746 and the antenna for 160m 
 as well as for 136 kHz. I have to switch 4 switches from transmit to
 receive
 and vice versa... >>

Hello Geri.

Thanks for the tip on late night propagation. If the local noise sources 
switch off in time I may be able to take advantage of that.  I note the 
cluster reports from RK2 were all quite late with the RK2 - GW at around 
midnight.

I see from the equipment list that you're using an IC746.
Is that directly at 136?  I have the 756 and found its respose very poor on 
LF and have to use a converter to part of the HF spectrum. A wide band noise 
source into the antenna socket shows a depressing LF roll-off on the 
"spectrum display".  Maybe thay fixed that on the new model.

Rules for ICOM:   Always wait for the Mark 2 !

73

David   G0MRF

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Saturday 22 May

Heard: PA0LQ (559); DF2PY (549); PA0CC (549); PA0SE (559); 
G3YXM (599); G3XTZ (5 9+10 9); IK5ZPV (579 at 2130).

Worked: GW4ALG (579/579).

Worked using extremely slow CW (QRSs) and Spectrogram: 
DJ5BV ('O'/'O') for a new one.

Sunday 23 May 

Heard G4GVC(599); DF2PY (539); G3BDQ (599).

Saw on Spectrogram: ON4ZK ('O'). 

Monday 24 May, breakfast time

Heard DJ5DI at 439 in QSO with DF2PY - another new one for me.




Mike


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In bench tests it has been claimed that there is no advantage in 
going for a dot length exceeding 3 or 4 seconds when using QRSS 
and Spectrogram.

During a QRSs QSO this weekend with DJ5BV, local interference 
came on at S9 blanketing the screen with 'snow'. DJ5BV had been 
a very clear, but inaudible signal previously and it is a tribute to this 
technique that I could complete the contact with an inaudible 
station despite S9 QRM. However it was a great struggle and relied 
largely on me knowing that there were only a few possible things 
he could have been sending. (The old 160m tricks come in useful).

What is interesting is that his dashes at about 9 seconds long 
were much more readable that his dots as they stood out from the 
noise. Most of the final over was read using just the dashes!!

This makes two points:
1) What a good idea it was to have reports using just dashes.
2) There does appear to be an advantage in a practical situation 
when dot lengths are increased to 10s or so.

On the subject of QRSs, it may be useful to list a few abbreviations 
which are acceptable. For instance, DJ5BV did not send QRZ? to 
me, he just sent ?? which was clearly understood. A replacement 
for 73 would be useful - what about just TU (meaning 'thank you' for 
anyone who hasn't done HF CW recently)?

Mike, G3XDV (IO91VT)
http://www.dennison.demon.co.uk/activity.htm


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From: "Mike Dennison" <mike.dennison@rsgb.org.uk>
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I note that the DX Cluster had several reports from RN2FA this 
weekend - another Kaliningrad station. He reported hearing UA2FF 
on 136.7kHz. Looks like at least three stations are operational from 
that area now.

Mike, G3XDV (IO91VT)
http://www.dennison.demon.co.uk/activity.htm


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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 13:07:53 -0400
From: "'Geri' Kinzel, DK8KW" <DK8KW@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: LF: 23.5.99: good condx to Southern Europe (2nd trial)
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GoMRF wrote:

>I see from the equipment list that you're using an IC746.
>Is that directly at 136? <

Hello Dave,

I use the Icom 746 only as an IF at 200 kHz. Below 300 kHz or so it is not
really working. I had the IC-751 that worked fine on 136 kHz. Now, I use a
so-called MV-61 level meter (made in former East Germany), a beautiful
handcrafted piece of equipment, that covers the range between 200 Hz and
2.1 MHz with a sensitivity down to 130 dBm(75 Ohm), equivalent to about 0.5
uV at a minimum bandwidth of about 100 Hz. It has an output to 200 kHz, so
I use the 746 with it's filter capabilities.

The good thing about this MV-61 is the ability to withstand high signal
levels in the vicinity (for example, DCF39 is only some 120 km away from my
QTH), additionally, it allows the measurement of signal and noise levels
down to an accuracy of 0.1 dB. This weekend I was able to get hold of a
couple of more MV-61s. For more details, see my homepage
http://www.dk8kw.home.pages.de

Vy 73

Geri, DK8KW (W1KW) 

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Hello Group,
Hi Mike,

Mike Dennison wrote:
 
> [...]
> This makes two points:
> 1) What a good idea it was to have reports using just dashes.

That's what I suggested some month ago: *Four* dashes for
indicating "just audible".

> 2) There does appear to be an advantage in a practical situation
> when dot lengths are increased to 10s or so.

Fully agreed! This corresponds to my own experiences
especially under man made noise.
 
> On the subject of QRSs, it may be useful to list a few abbreviations
> which are acceptable. For instance, DJ5BV did not send QRZ? to
> me, he just sent ?? which was clearly understood. A replacement
> for 73 would be useful - what about just TU (meaning 'thank you' for
> anyone who hasn't done HF CW recently)?

I'm preferring CU (*SEE* YOU) since that's what has happened
or should be...

54°16'N / 10°04'E, JO54ag
73 es gl de Peter, DF3LP

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At 17.41 24/05/99 +0100, Mike Dennison wrote:

>This makes two points:
>1) What a good idea it was to have reports using just dashes.
The idea originates frome the EME community. They use this
system since 20 years or so ... and face signal conditions
very similar to us. I am happy to have proposed this way to the
LF community (this list, Oct. 99)

>2) There does appear to be an advantage in a practical situation 
>when dot lengths are increased to 10s or so.
>
Agreed. It all depends from the kind of noise you have. The bench
tests were done (at least in my case) on-air in a quiet evening,
probably without thunderstorms around.

>On the subject of QRSs, it may be useful to list a few abbreviations 
>which are acceptable. For instance, DJ5BV did not send QRZ? to 
>me, he just sent ?? which was clearly understood. A replacement 
>for 73 would be useful - what about just TU (meaning 'thank you' for 
>anyone who hasn't done HF CW recently)?
>
I also used "??" a couple of times. Seems good and easily understandable.
Also "CU" instead of "73", Peter is right!

I'm looking for skeds in QRSs for next evenings. I am QRV from
approximately 1900z thru 2100z, every evening, QRM and QRN permitting. 
Anyone interested ?

73 to all - Marco - IK1ODO


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Hell LF guys.
Very noisy conditions on LF  all the week, especially during evening time.
Morning situation is  a little better, but no comparable with few weeks ago;
summer is coming!

Worked on LF, all qso in normal CW:

20/5/99 2005z DF2PY 539
22/5/99 2021z F6CNI 136/3530 kc
        2038z DJ7RD 136/3530 kc
        2048z DF2PY 579
        2115z HB9ASB 539

TX: G3YXM project 2 x irfp450 600 w
RX:Icom IC 736 + 250 hz cw filter+ DSP Timewawe and Preamp/filter
Ant: T antenna 16 meters high, 220 metrs double wire lenght.

Hope to get  you on 136.
73 de Marzio I5MXX


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> > On the subject of QRSs, it may be useful to list a few abbreviations
> > which are acceptable. For instance, DJ5BV did not send QRZ? to
> > me, he just sent ?? which was clearly understood. A replacement
> > for 73 would be useful - what about just TU (meaning 'thank you' for
> > anyone who hasn't done HF CW recently)?
> 
> I'm preferring CU (*SEE* YOU) since that's what has happened
> or should be...
> 
> 54°16'N / 10°04'E, JO54ag
> 73 es gl de Peter, DF3LP
> 

Yes, of course.





Mike, G3XDV (IO91VT)
http://www.dennison.demon.co.uk/activity.htm


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>From Dave G3YMC

The packet cluster reports given by Mike G3XDV are, I think, from the
internet based version of the packet cluster.  This is totally seperate
from the VHF packet cluster network in the UK and Western Europe and the
russian reports are not on my local cluster node GB7DXI.  As far as I know
the UK Packet Cluster Working Group has no association with those who run
the internet service, which of course relies on a phone lineconnection.

73s Dave
 

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G3YMC wrote:
> The packet cluster reports given by Mike G3XDV are, I think, from the
> internet based version of the packet cluster.  This is totally seperate
> from the VHF packet cluster network in the UK and Western Europe and the
> russian reports are not on my local cluster node GB7DXI.  As far as I know
> the UK Packet Cluster Working Group has no association with those who run
> the internet service, which of course relies on a phone lineconnection.
> 

The info is certainly from a web-based service, but my 
understanding was that it merely published what is on the packet 
service, but pre-sorted so that all of the LF spots, for instance, are 
on the same page.

However, on closer inspection I was wrong. The service is provided 
on the web only by members of OH9W / OH2AQ Radio Club. There 
is a page to input DX information.

The main URL is:  http://oh2aq.kolumbus.com/dxs/

The info is updated every 5 minutes so it could provide a most 
useful indicator of who is looking for QSOs.




Mike


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Lyle Koehler wrote:

> According to David Wilson's LF listing in the May 1998 LOWDOWN, the RTTY
> signal on 137.0 kHz is CFH, from Halifax (Mill Cove) -- in Nova Scotia,
> I presume. That is consistent with the east-west bearing I observe with
> my loop antenna, and the very strong signal here in Minnesota. I don't
> have a capability for absolute field strength readings, but last night
> at 0700 UTC the 137 kHz RTTY signal was about 25 dB above the noise
> level with a 100 Hz IF bandwidth.
>
> There are also listings for NSS from Norfolk, VA on 134.9 kHz and for
> NPG from San Francisco (Dixon) CA on 135.95, 136.0 and apparently also
> on 136.9 kHz. These listings are probably not very current, and some of
> the stations may no longer be on the air. However, the one on 137 kHz is
> obviously alive and well. Its sidebands are strong enough to cause me
> problems on 136.75 (as if the Loran-C splatter from Baudette, MN isn't
> enough!)
>
> Lyle, K0LR
>
> http://www.computerpro.com/~lyle
>
> "M. Bruno" wrote:
> >
> > The RTTY signal around 137.000 has been copied also in Europe this
> > winter. We presume it is of USA origin. If it is the case it may
> > become an useful propagation indicator. It would be very helpful to
> > locate it ... may any Lowfer take a bearing or at least a signal level ?
> >
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From: "Petr Maly" <petr.maly@hk.cro.cz>
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Hello LowFers!

As a newcomer I hope I have right to ask silly questions.

1. How efficient is actually capacitancy hat of Marconi "T" ant?  In other words, if there is space 40 meters horizontaly and 15 meters verticaly, I can build either T ant with heigth of 15 m and length of hat of 40 meters, or inverted L ant, 15 m long vertical part and 40 m long horizontal part. Is it sure that T antenna would be more efficient than that inverted L ant?

This weekend I will listen on longer and better matched LW ant. I hope I will be QRV with QRP in few weeks.

73! Petr, OK1FIG









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Petr
Use the T configuration as it will most likely keep the vertical  section
well away from earthed surroundings, which is most important for best
performance. And use at least 0.5 metre spacing between two parallel  wires
in the top loading capacity hat, more if you can. Keep the ends of the top
loading  up high rather than letting them droop down very much. And put as
much wire in the ground for an earth as you can get away with!
73
 Dave
 ZL3FJ


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From: "Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.ac.be>
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At 09:05 27/05/99 +-200, you wrote:
>Hello LowFers!
>
>As a newcomer I hope I have right to ask silly questions.
>
>1. How efficient is actually capacitancy hat of Marconi "T" ant?  In other
>words, if there is space 40 meters horizontaly and 15 meters verticaly, I 
>can build either T ant with heigth of 15 m and length of hat of 40 meters,
>or inverted L ant, 15 m long vertical part and 40 m long horizontal part.
Compared to a 'pure' vertical a sufficient horizotal top section can
quadruple the radiation resistance and so increase a 6dB improvement.
Furthermore you can bring the antenna to resonance with a smaller loading
coil, also reducing the losses in the coil, this can eventually give an
additional 1 or 2 dB gain.
An example (I skip the detailled calculations here, but I mail then to you
if you want) :
A 15m vertical (not top-hat) will have a radiation resistance of about 18
mOhm and a capacitance of about 90pF. You will need a loading coil of 15mH
you bring it to resonance. Assuming a Q of 300 the loss in th coil will be
43 Ohm.
The 'ground loss' will be between 30 Ohm (very good) to 200 Ohm (very
poor), so let's assume it will be somewhere inbetween = 60 Ohm. So the
total loss resistance will be 103 Ohm. If you put 100W RF power into this
antenna the antennacurrent will be 0.99A and your ERP will be about 18mW.
Now you add the 40m top-load section to the antenna. This will increase the
radiation resistance to about 50 mOhm. Compared to the 18 mOhm of the pure
vertical this gives you a gain of about 4.4dB. Due to the top-load the
antenna capacitance will increase to about 290pF, so you will need a
loading coil of only 4.7mH. Assuming a Q of 300 this means a coil loss of
about 13 Ohm, so your total loss will be 73 Ohm now. If you put 100W into
this system the antennacurrent will be 1.17A and the ERP will be about 68mW.
So compared to the 18mW you got with the pure vertical you have an
'overall' gain of 5.8dB !

>Is it sure that T antenna would be more efficient than that inverted L ant?
Personally I don't think that there is a real difference and that the
selection between T and inv-L is mostly done based on the location.

73, Rik


Rik Strobbe  ON7YD
rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.ac.be
Villadreef 14  B-3128 Baal  BELGIUM   (JO20IX)

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> > According to David Wilson's LF listing in the May 1998 LOWDOWN, the RTTY
> > signal on 137.0 kHz is CFH, from Halifax (Mill Cove) -- in Nova Scotia,
> > I presume. That is consistent with the east-west bearing I observe with
> > my loop antenna, and the very strong signal here in Minnesota. I don't
> > have a capability for absolute field strength readings, but last night
> > at 0700 UTC the 137 kHz RTTY signal was about 25 dB above the noise
> > level with a 100 Hz IF bandwidth.


Ah, that's very useful. I heard it at S9+10dB last weekend at 
0230UTC - this is the strongest heard so far and is as good as the 
Greek RTTY signal ever gets. 

What would be really useful is someone who can plot the station's 
signal strength at night over a long period on a chart recorder (there 
must be ways of doing this on a computer, too) so it can be 
correlated with solar data etc.




Mike


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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 00:41:12 -0400
From: "'Geri' Kinzel, DK8KW" <DK8KW@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: LF: [Fwd: 137 RTTY & AMRAD Beacon]
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Mike wrote

>What would be really useful is someone who can plot the station's 
>signal strength at night over a long period on a chart recorder (there 
>must be ways of doing this on a computer, too) so it can be 
>correlated with solar data etc.

I did a plot like this for sunrise (see my homepage
http://ww.dk8kw.home.pages.de, follow the link: "Information on "Beacon"
Stations"). I could try to set up the configuration and plot an entire
night. 

I use the MV-61 which has a recorder output of the signal strength in the
2-Volt range and a Voltcraft multimeter with an RS-232 output to record the
data on my computer. I will post results here. Now that we know, which
station we are receiving we can use it as an indicator for conditions over
the atlantic. BTW, does anyoneknow the purpose of the station?

Vy 73

Geri, DK8KW (W1KW)


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On Sunday next between 1045 and 1130 UTC I shall be speaking at the East
Suffolk Wireless Revival on 'LF Radio - how to join in'. If you are in the
Ipswich area please drop in. Talk-in will be on 145.550 MHz.

Part of the presentation will be a demonstration of reception on 136 kHz. We 
hope to hear many of you. (G3GRO/P, G3KEV, G3YXM, GW4ALG heard there 2 weeks
ago).

73 de G3PAI

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Edmund Laport was Chief Engineer of RCA International when he published his
542-page book   "Radio Antenna Engineering",  McGraw Hill 1952.

Allow me to quote from page 14 of that wonderful book:

"Low-frequency-antenna engineering is an active modern subject, and one where
the sources of information are few, and the problems difficult.
The author has been impressed by this lack of specific information on
low-frequency antennas, even after so many years of engineering effort devoted
to them, as well as enormous sums of money. The reason evidently is that the
compromises that have to be made in design are so extreme that the designer has
no particular pride in the result and says as little as possible about it in his
technical reports to the profession.
Almost all papers in technical journals about low-frequency antennas are
strictly descriptive and lack the detailed discussions of how the designs were
conceived and developed, that one misses so much when searching for engineering
guidance. This chapter will provide some useful information and explain
something about the nature of the compromises that one must make in practice.
Large low-frequency antenna systems involve large capital outlays, and one may
pay dearly for ignorance of the practical importance of the several controlling
design factors and the compromises the designer finally accepts."

How aptly put   :-)

Andre' N4ICK.





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Hi David
Do you have any info on your converter, i.e. a schematic and source of
parts?
Thanks
Rod
KL7RG/8

G0MRF@aol.com wrote:
> 
> I was pleased to hear Roger's 73kHz beacon on air earlier in the week.
> Although a little down on its usual level, I was suspicious that my converter
> wasn't performing as well as it does on 136k.
> 
> Using Roger's beacon and some transmissions on 136 as test sources, I
> discovered that my receiver was being "de-sensed" by the level of local
> oscillator feedthrough.
> 
> The converter upconverts the LF band to an IF of 10MHz. Unfortunately the
> closer you get to "10MHZ" the lower the performance.  136 is OK but 73 was
> poor in comparison.
> 
> As I have already fitted a multi turn pot to optimise carrier balance on the
> MC1496, I appeared to need a very narrow filter on the output.  normal coils
> / caps were no use, but the answer came in the form of an 86 pence 10MHz
> ceramic resonator from RS components.
> 
> I fitted two small ferrite transformers with a 1:9 and 9:1 ratio back to back
> on the output of the converter. From the centre point (at 350 Ohms) I
> connected the resonator in series with a 65pF variable to ground.  Listening
> to the 10MHz breakthrough and tuning the capacitor I managed to reduce the
> level by 27 - 28dB.
> 
> The performance on both bands has been improved.  MDS on 136 has been
> improved by about 1 -2 dB,   but 73k  is 10dB better than before!
> 
> The technique could be useful to anyone trying to build a robust RX (DL)
> using high level diode ring mixers.
> 
> resonant frequency of the "notch filter" could be set anywhere from 9.6 MHz
> to 10.05MHz.
> 
> 73
> 
> David

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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I notice mike has been supplying info on web 
cluster spots. I have been collecting the weekend spots from GB7DXM located near 
Ipswich and sending these on to John G4GVC by the packet network. It would seem 
that not all clusters in the UK accept spots from more distant sites. GB7DXM 
dispays spots form most of Europe, and since early this year I have seen spots 
from as far away as OK and I5 on 136KHz. On the question of 'propagation 
time'...I entered a spot for the DL /P</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>operation as 1800 DJ8WL cq 136.6khz hand cw (or 
similar) and 3 mins later received a 'correction from an Ok station who had 
entered correctly as 136khz.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>It seems that the original cluster software will 
not accept spots entered below 1800KHz, though some of the newer software clones 
are more flexible. I am sure that at least south-east cluster-nodes should be 
able to accept the spots that appear at GB7MXM. It may be that they dont want 
them, I am not aware of the 'politics'. I have certainly found the entries 
useful despite my 'listen-only' status</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>at present, and I have made a point of flagging 
up the stong G stations I hear in the hope of stimulating activity (and rx 
improvement??) in other areas. If there is any interest I am happy to post a 
copy of the spots during the weekend every Monday.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I am sure John will not begrudge his 'personal 
service'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>73 de Alan G3NYK</FONT></DIV>
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Rod

I don't know whether David G0MRF has his circuits anywhere, but you may
find mine useful.  The receive part of my 136 transverter is a simple to
build LF receive converter to 10MHz (and doesn't suffer from the problems
David reports).  Find it on my web site 
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/sergeantd/

73s Dave G3YMC

