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1. Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels (score: 1)
Author: "Peter Martinez" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 10:07:10 +0100
Jim, Markus, and the group: First of all, many thanks Jim for doing those measurements. I don't have the test equipment to do these things and I am too far away from Rugby. Your results seem to say t
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2006-03/msg00210.html (12,525 bytes)

2. Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels (score: 1)
Author: [email protected]
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 18:51:49 EST
It falls off only at -40 dB/decade, as expected for the click of a t^2 pulse start correction: this should have said -60 dB/decade. The time-domain pulse envelope formula is from http://www.eurofix.t
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2006-03/msg00211.html (8,166 bytes)

3. Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels (score: 1)
Author: [email protected]
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 18:34:24 EST
Hi Peter, went through your calculation and basically reproduced your result, with only minor differences: Following your reasoning, the power in the last bin would be 10^(-59.54/10) * 1.37^2 = 2.087
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2006-03/msg00212.html (13,251 bytes)

4. Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels (score: 1)
Author: "James Moritz" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 00:30:28 +0100
Dear Peter, LF Group, I tried some rough field strength measurements on the Loran noise in the 136kHz band, in an attempt to confirm your calculations. A a field strength reference, I injected a know
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2006-03/msg00213.html (15,986 bytes)

5. Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels (score: 1)
Author: "Peter Martinez" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 00:12:48 +0100
Alan: Yes, it's true that if the signal is wider than your receiver and is coherent (like a pulse), then the SNR will increase if you widen the bandwidth, inspite of the fact that the noise increases
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2006-03/msg00214.html (12,600 bytes)

6. Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels (score: 1)
Author: "Alan Melia" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 21:02:35 +0100
Peter, In one way I think you are right. If you were to select one line you would not be able to hear it. The effect is a little like FM. If you listen to a WB FM signal with a narrow band receiver y
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2006-03/msg00215.html (13,292 bytes)

7. Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels (score: 1)
Author: "Peter Martinez" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 20:25:16 +0100
From G3PLX: Some small corrections to the calculation of the erp of a LORAN line... The mean power of a LORAN transmitter is a little lower than I said. If the published peak power is P and the Group
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2006-03/msg00216.html (12,608 bytes)

8. Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels (score: 1)
Author: "Peter Martinez" <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 10:57:29 +0100
From G3PLX: I calculated the radiated power of a LORAN line now, but I would like other people to check if I did it right, because the result is surprisingly small. The spectrum measurement made at R
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2006-03/msg00217.html (14,586 bytes)

9. Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels (score: 1)
Author: "Peter Martinez" <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 23:57:13 +0100
Marco: Thanks for the info about the LORAN transmitter. That's very useful, and it's surprising how low is the mean power. If it's 7.5kW at 180 pulses/sec., then for example the Lessay chain transmit
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2006-03/msg00218.html (11,696 bytes)

10. Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels (score: 1)
Author: Marco Bruno <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 21:44:14 +0100
I found it :-) From the manual of the glorious AN/FPN-44A: "The station output power is 100kW at the standard sampling point. The standard sampling point occurs 25 microseconds after the start of eac
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2006-03/msg00219.html (11,629 bytes)

11. Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels (score: 1)
Author: Marco Bruno <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 21:34:13 +0100
Marco: Thanks for the info about the Sellia Marina transmitter. Is this still operating? I thought that the Mediterranean chain had closed down. Hi Peter, that was about 10 years ago. Yes, it's all
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2006-03/msg00220.html (11,829 bytes)

12. Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels (score: 1)
Author: "Peter Martinez" <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 21:26:12 +0100
Alan: Yes I have spent some time at the Megapulse site, and that tells me all the power levels, but I assume these are given as the peak pulse power. What I need now is to convert these to mean power
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2006-03/msg00221.html (13,254 bytes)

13. Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels (score: 1)
Author: Marco Bruno <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 21:11:36 +0100
Lessay and Sylt are quoted as 250kW, there are even powers for the western Chayka system ! Exact locations are also given. Also at a lot of locations you will receive signals from more than one stati
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2006-03/msg00222.html (11,739 bytes)

14. Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels (score: 1)
Author: "Alan Melia" <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 20:58:54 +0100
Peter have you looked at the "megapulse" web site for power levels. ERPs may be calculatable if we know the mast heights....these may be available elsewhere. http://www.megapulse.com/chaininfo.html L
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2006-03/msg00223.html (13,025 bytes)

15. Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels (score: 1)
Author: Wolf DL4YHF <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 19:15:46 +0000
Hi Peter and group, If you are close enough to receive surface wave from DCF39 and surface wave from Sylt, then a ratio of the DCF39 carrier level to the level of a typical Sylt LORAN line (at midday
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2006-03/msg00224.html (12,222 bytes)

16. Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels (score: 1)
Author: "Peter Martinez" <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 18:59:43 +0100
Wolf: That would be another way to get a calibration, so long as we also knew the emrp of DCF39. If you are close enough to receive surface wave from DCF39 and surface wave from Sylt, then a ratio of
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2006-03/msg00225.html (11,918 bytes)

17. Re: LF: LORAN spurious emission levels (score: 1)
Author: Wolf DL4YHF <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 17:16:47 +0000
Hello Peter, Would a "relative" level indication be helpful too ? I have no calibrated measuring equipment, all I can measure is how many dB's weaker a particular Loran line is compared to the DCF39
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2006-03/msg00226.html (11,308 bytes)

18. LF: LORAN spurious emission levels (score: 1)
Author: "Peter Martinez" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 22:06:22 +0100
From Peter G3PLX: Does anyone have any information about the actual level of spurious emission from the LORAN transmitters in the 136kHz band? The only specification I know of says something like the
/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2006-03/msg00227.html (10,164 bytes)


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