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Content preview: Hi, I thought a separate thread best for this question U3S exciter for MF, taking the X2 frequency output @ circa 950 kHz from the Si5351A CLK0 output pin to a level converter using a SN74AHCT125N buffer between the si5351a and the HEF4013 flip flop,and w [...] Content analysis details: (-0.2 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [2a00:1450:4864:20:0:0:0:431 listed in] [list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (dead.fets[at]gmail.com) -0.1 DKIM_VALID_EF Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from envelope-from domain -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain X-Scan-Signature: e6de17d69e46ff4ea8db042ef2cd7e46 Subject: LF: HEF 4013 flip flop anomaly Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi, I thought a separate thread best for this question U3S exciter for MF, taking the X2 frequency output @ circa 950 kHz from the Si5351A CLK0 output pin to a level converter using a SN74AHCT125N buffer between the si5351a and the HEF4013 flip flop,and we are seeing something we do not understand, maybe someone can explain? We have an adjustable voltage regulator off the main 12V supply for the HEF4013, next to it on my little driver board, and by chance, we found that as we lower the voltage to the HEF4013 the drain waveforms clean up, and just before the 4013 shuts down they are relatively good. I'll link to scope shots. We have the driver board grounded right by the driver IC ground points to as near the FET source pins as the layout will allow (10 mm or so, copper sheet strap) Before we go further we would like to know why reducing the voltage to the 4013 improves things! We also see the gate waveforms go negative when the FET's have power to them, without voltage applied they are perfectly square. You can see this effect in the screenshots. Gates are lower traces, drains upper. Thanks. We are building a board using a CD74HCT74E flip flop in the meantime, we suspect a 4000 series is not the best choice... http://www.chriswilson.tv/4-point-8v-on-4013-25v-on-drains.png http://www.chriswilson.tv/6v-on-4013-25v-on-drains.png -- Best regards, Chris mailto:dead.fets@gmail.com