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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: RR Laurence, Your loop for 137 kHz, what are the dimensions? What type of wire do you use? Do you reach 1W with the loop as well? And at which power level and antenna current? 73, Stefan Content analysis details: (-2.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [185.67.36.65 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 5f3d51ad98dd7d967f54e1b86b99caac Subject: Re: LF: JA1CGM QRSS into Maui 137kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070607030208010802070603" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070607030208010802070603 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit RR Laurence, Your loop for 137 kHz, what are the dimensions? What type of wire do you use? Do you reach 1W with the loop as well? And at which power level and antenna current? 73, Stefan Am 30.03.2019 17:18, schrieb Laurence KL7 L: > Mng Stefan - yes I still have 1W EIRP on 137 from a nested Marconi or > Ashlock loop, tho loop fires East/West - and yes to VLF too with > improvements to the sub 10kHz s/n over the past couple if years -The > pc was older than 10 years....and ill have to buy one when I get back home > > Paths from Alaska East to East coast are pretty difficult tho not > impossible given past rx on 75kHz and lower - can be easier over the > Pole around mid winter > > Good to see VK4YB making the trip on 137 wspr to here overnight at > good strength - - - nothing on JT9 screen pre dawn > > 73 > Aloha > Laurence KL7L/KH6 > > On Mar 29, 2019, at 10:31 PM, DK7FC > wrote: > >> Hi Laurence, >> >> RR abt EbNaut. A short EbNaut message, like a callsign, transmitted >> in 8K19A should be no problem unless your PC isn't older than 10 >> years :-) >> BTW are you still QRV on 137 kHz, i.e. can you transmit? >> I guess that Jay would be able to decode you... >> And is your VLF grabber still ready? We have never been successful >> over that path, even with the kite experiments. But now i have that >> earth loop and it looks like i can reach a similar signal strength, >> even stronger! And, with that loop i can transmit at night whereas >> this was not possible with the 300m kite. There could be much better >> chances at night. Some day it may be worth a try... >> >> 73, Stefan >> >> >> Am 30.03.2019 01:08, schrieb Laurence KL7 L: >>> I agree Stefan! CGM has a very distinctive analogue curve and is a >>> regular into AK >>> >>> I made it a goal to get EbNaut running this winter and got so far >>> but pc processing performance was just not good enough - the pps etc >>> is fine but as my last tower just died I dont have any excuses >>> except cash to get a decent machine now - >>> >>> aloha >>> >>> On Mar 29, 2019, at 12:49 PM, DK7FC >> > wrote: >>> >>>> Very nice! Good old analog modes. I remember... >>>> >>>> 73, Stefan >>>> >>>> Am 29.03.2019 22:29, schrieb Laurence KL7 L: >>>>> Good to see JA1CGM signature signal here into Maui on a not so >>>>> quiet night. Eprobe SDRIQ at off 6th floor balcony >>>>> >>>>> Alaska receivers will be off line until I fix up a new PC or >>>>> replace the CPU >>>>> --------------070607030208010802070603 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit RR Laurence,

Your loop for 137 kHz, what are the dimensions? What type of wire do you use? Do you reach 1W with the loop as well? And at which power level and antenna current?

73, Stefan

Am 30.03.2019 17:18, schrieb Laurence KL7 L:
Mng Stefan - yes I still have 1W EIRP on 137 from a nested Marconi or Ashlock loop, tho loop fires East/West - and yes to VLF too with improvements to the sub 10kHz s/n over the past couple if years -The pc was older than 10 years....and ill have to buy one when I get back home

Paths from Alaska East to East coast are pretty difficult tho not impossible given past rx on 75kHz and lower - can be easier over the Pole around mid winter

Good to see VK4YB making the trip on 137 wspr to here overnight at good strength -  -  - nothing on JT9 screen pre dawn

73
Aloha
Laurence KL7L/KH6

On Mar 29, 2019, at 10:31 PM, DK7FC <selberdenken@posteo.de> wrote:

Hi Laurence,

RR abt EbNaut. A short EbNaut message, like a callsign, transmitted in 8K19A should be no problem unless your PC isn't older than 10 years :-)
BTW are you still QRV on 137 kHz, i.e. can you transmit?
I guess that Jay would be able to decode you...
And is your VLF grabber still ready? We have never been successful over that path, even with the kite experiments. But now i have that earth loop and it looks like i can reach a similar signal strength, even stronger! And, with that loop i can transmit at night whereas this was not possible with the 300m kite. There could be much better chances at night. Some day it may be worth a try...

73, Stefan


Am 30.03.2019 01:08, schrieb Laurence KL7 L:
I agree Stefan! CGM has a very distinctive analogue curve and is a regular into AK 

I made it a goal to get EbNaut running this winter and got so far but pc processing performance was just not good enough - the pps etc is fine but as my last tower just died I dont have any excuses except cash to get a decent machine now -

aloha

On Mar 29, 2019, at 12:49 PM, DK7FC <selberdenken@posteo.de> wrote:

Very nice! Good old analog modes. I remember...

73, Stefan

Am 29.03.2019 22:29, schrieb Laurence KL7 L:
Good to see JA1CGM signature signal here into Maui on a not so quiet night.  Eprobe SDRIQ at off 6th floor balcony

Alaska receivers will be off line until I fix up a new PC or replace the CPU

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