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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Marku There must be a way to modify a satellite RX to receive the AO 100. The SAT BOX would have AFC built in to avoid LNB drift in normal use. One method would be to set up the RX box to analogue rec [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [62.24.135.67 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 6ae4eec5875a1b41a36d2a35c03bf59e Subject: Re: Not LF: Opera via QO-100 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01D4D423.E0F2A810" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01D4D423.E0F2A810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Marku There must be a way to modify a satellite RX to receive the AO 100. The = SAT BOX would have AFC built in to avoid LNB drift in normal use.=20 One method would be to set up the RX box to analogue reception and tune = across the base band, another to tap off the IF 480 Mhz and tune across = the IF with a 70cms amateur RX or SDR dongle and computer Maybe someone has tried a similar method 73 de mal/g3kevr Fn rom: Markus Vester=20 Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 4:51 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: Not LF: Opera via QO-100 Hi Mal, my 2.4 GHz TX is fairly improvised and may not be easy to reproduce... = I've extracted the LO from an old Sat-TV receiver, followed by a small = Minicircuit amplifier and a 60 cm dish indoors. The PLL consists of the = 1/64 prescaler output fed to a CD4030 XOR phase comparator, along with a = 18.75082 MHz Rubidium-controlled reference.=20 There are surely much better ways to generate a decent 13 cm signal. = PA1SDB mentioned that he uses an Adalm-Pluto SDR from Analog Devices. You might be able to pick us up on the web-sdr, using 10489603.5 kHz USB = dial, and Opera SW set to Op-05 speed by selecting e.g. the 1296 MHz = band. Yes we could try a crossband contact, but not today. To count as a = valid QSO, we'd probably also need to set up our own receivers, both for = 10.5 GHz and 472 kHz. Best 73, Markus =20 -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- Von: mal hamilton An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: So, 3. Mrz 2019 16:24 Betreff: Re: Not LF: Opera via QO-100 Markus=20 How about a XBAND qso AO100/MF on CW You TX via satellite to me and I tx on 472.5 Khz CW 73 de mal/g3kev From: Markus Vester=20 Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 1:44 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Cc: pa1sdb@amsat.org=20 Subject: Not LF: Opera via QO-100 Listening to the below-mentioned Goonhilly web-sdr, I noticed an = interrupted carrier on 10489.605 MHz, which turned out to be 10 mW = Opera-2 and Opera-05 transmissions from PA1SDB. Peter has been well = known in the LF group for running a VLF-Grabber in Appingedam.=20 During the last week, I had managed to built a rudimentary but stable = 2.4 GHz CW transmitter, allowing me to add in another Opera signal on = Es'hail-2. Anyone else to join in?=20 Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- Von: VIGILANT Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Verschickt: So, 17. Feb. 2019 22:21 Betreff: LF: MF/LF chat over QA-100 Geostationary Satellite ?=20 Hi All=20 May be someone has the equipment and is in the footprint of Es'Hail-2, = formely AMSAT QA-100 satellite? Nice place for chats working as an HF band permanently open and with = outstanding sensibility Anybody (appart from David, G0MRF) interested in joining an MF/LF/VLF = chat ? You need just an SSB rig at 144 or 432, an upconverter to 2.4GHz and a = WiFi PA and antenna and you are in For Rx you can even use the WebSDR at Goonhilly https://eshail.batc.org.uk/nb/ Unfortunately the footprint of the satellite do not cover America (only = the extreme East of Brazil) nor Australia (reaching up to thailand). But sites like Reunion are in = the footprint 73 de Luis EA5DOM ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01D4D423.E0F2A810 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Marku
There must be a way to modify a satellite RX to receive the AO 100. = The SAT=20 BOX would have AFC built in to avoid LNB drift in normal use.
One method would be to set up the RX box to analogue reception and = tune=20 across the base band, another to tap off the IF 480 Mhz and tune across = the IF=20 with a 70cms amateur RX or SDR dongle and computer
Maybe someone has tried a similar method
73 de mal/g3kevr
 
Fn rom: Markus Vester
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: Not LF: Opera via QO-100
 
Hi Mal,

my 2.4 GHz TX=20 is fairly improvised and may not be easy to reproduce... I've extracted = the LO=20 from an old Sat-TV receiver, followed by a small Minicircuit amplifier = and a 60=20 cm dish indoors. The PLL consists of the 1/64 prescaler output fed to a = CD4030=20 XOR phase comparator, along with a 18.75082 MHz Rubidium-controlled = reference.=20

There are surely much better ways to = generate a=20 decent 13 cm signal. PA1SDB mentioned that he uses an Adalm-Pluto SDR = from=20 Analog Devices.

You might be able to = pick us up on=20 the web-sdr, using 10489603.5 kHz USB dial, and Opera SW set to Op-05 = speed by=20 selecting e.g. the 1296 MHz band. Yes we could try a crossband contact, = but not=20 today. To count as a valid QSO, we'd probably also need to set up our = own=20 receivers, both for 10.5 GHz and 472 kHz.

Best 73,
Markus
 


-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: mal=20 hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
An: = rsgb_lf_group=20 <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: So, 3.=20 Mrz 2019 16:24
Betreff: Re: Not LF: Opera = via QO-100
Markus
How about a XBAND qso AO100/MF on CW
You TX via satellite to me and I tx on 472.5 Khz = CW
73 de mal/g3kev
 
 
From: Markus Vester =
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 1:44 = PM
Subject: Not LF: Opera via=20 QO-100
 
Listening to the below-mentioned Goonhilly web-sdr, I = noticed an=20 interrupted carrier on 10489.605 MHz, which turned out to be 10 mW = Opera-2 and=20 Opera-05 transmissions from PA1SDB. Peter has been well known in the LF = group=20 for running a VLF-Grabber in Appingedam.

During the last week, I had managed to built a rudimentary = but stable=20 2.4 GHz CW transmitter, allowing me to add in another Opera signal on = Es'hail-2.=20 Anyone else to join in?

Best=20 73,
Markus (DF6NM)
-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: VIGILANT Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez = <luis@vigilant.es>
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: So, 17.=20 Feb. 2019 22:21
Betreff: LF: MF/LF chat over = QA-100=20 Geostationary Satellite ?

Hi All=20
 
May be someone has the equipment and is in the = footprint of=20 Es'Hail-2, formely AMSAT QA-100 satellite?
Nice place for chats working as an HF band permanently = open and=20 with outstanding sensibility
 
Anybody (appart from David, G0MRF) interested in = joining an=20 MF/LF/VLF chat ?
 
You need just an SSB rig at 144 or 432, an upconverter = to 2.4GHz=20 and a WiFi PA and antenna and you are in
For Rx you can even use the WebSDR at Goonhilly

Unfortunately the=20 footprint of the satellite do not cover America (only the extreme East = of=20 Brazil)
nor = Australia (reaching=20 up to thailand). But sites like Reunion are in the = footprint

73 de = Luis
EA5DOM=20
=
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