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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > groups.io forums like UKMicrowaves have public archives > which are indexed by search engines. Unfortunately the groups.io settings would have been inherited from the Yahoo group as part of the migration process. The Yahoo group was set up as a private group (as befits a family or commercial di [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [185.53.59.69 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record X-Scan-Signature: 2e2f7cbbe9f38dd7bf3fac4fc012e6fc Subject: Re: LF: reflector archive history... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false > groups.io forums like UKMicrowaves have public archives > which are indexed by search engines. Unfortunately the groups.io settings would have been inherited from the Yahoo group as part of the migration process. The Yahoo group was set up as a private group (as befits a family or commercial discussion group), so the archives and files were never public. I doubt that it is possible to retrospectively change that because that would expose posts made when the group was private. Agreed, in every respect groups.io is an improvement on Yahoo and on traditional mailing lists like this one. Eventually the blacksheep computer will fail - it's have been running on borrowed time for years now! We have been very lucky with it. A solution would be to create a new group on groups.io with public archives and files. groups.io itself might last 10 years or so, but the public archives will last indefinitely as a resource for historians. -- Paul Nicholson --