From: Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@kuleuven.be>
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Thread-Topic: [rsgb-lf-group] Audio alert for JT-9 activity?
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Hello Paul,

sending text messages (SMS) to a mobile number is possible, but it there will be a cost per message.
Sending e-mails is also possible, but this will invoke your default e-mail app. In most cases the messages will be stored in the outbox until you press "send".
I still believe that the most versatile solution is a platform independent app that is "listening" on a given port for UDP broadcast.
That way all received JT9 messages can be displayed (so you can check what is going on whenever you want) and you can select for what JT9 messages (new stations, new DXCC, new state, ...) a sound alert is triggered.

It took me just a few hours to write a small app that just displays the UDP broadcasts in Java. 
It was the first time ever I programmed something in Java. So I am still hoping for some help, but otherwise I will try to figure it out myself (it will take more time).

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

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Van: rsgb-lf-group@groups.io <rsgb-lf-group@groups.io> namens N1BUG <paul@n1bug.com>
Verzonden: vrijdag 22 maart 2019 11:34
Aan: rsgb-lf-group@groups.io; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; 600MRG@mailman.qth.net
Onderwerp: Re: [rsgb-lf-group] Audio alert for JT-9 activity?

Hello Rik,

Perhaps the simplest way is to send a text message to a user
specified mobile phone number. At least for most mobile phone
carriers in the U.S. this message can be sent using email protocol.
The message text could simply be the decoded line from SlowJT9. It
would be up to the user to set his preferred notification on the
smart phone.

But how to send the text message (email) from SlowJT9? I don't know.
In linux I think there are command line email tools which could be
passed the message and destination address, but I am not aware of
the equivalent for Windows.

73,
Paul N1BUG


On 3/21/19 7:33 AM, Rik Strobbe wrote:
> Hello Neil, Paul, all,
>
>
> sorry for the delayed reply, but I have been very busy otherwise
> the past weeks.
>
> But now I have a test version of SlowJT9 (not published yet) that
> allows UDP broadcasting.
>
> But how to proceed?
>
>
> The initial question (raised by Chris, 2E0ILY) was to be alerted
> when certain messages are decoded, even when you are not in the
> shack.
>
> The best way to do that (in my opinion) would be a smartphone app
> that "buzzes" and displays the decoded message whenever somthing
> interesting is decoded, so you can have a look and decide wether
> you want to rush into the shack.
>
>
> I have however no experience at all in creating such apps (if
> possible platform independent, so it will work on Android,
> Windows and IOS).
>
> As a test I did write a small Java app (class) that just dumps
> whatever is broadcasted by SlowJT9 and it seems to work fine over
> a local network (127.0.0.1).
>
>
> Is there anyone who has experience in this field and is willing
> to help? Either by pointing me into the right direction or (even
> better) by creating such an app.
>
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
> ________________________________ Van: rsgb-lf-group@groups.io
> <rsgb-lf-group@groups.io> namens Neil Smith G4DBN
> <neil@g4dbn.uk> Verzonden: vrijdag 8 maart 2019 12:01 Aan:
> rsgb-lf-group@groups.io Onderwerp: Re: [rsgb-lf-group] LF: Audio
> alert for JT-9 activity?
>
> UDP would be very useful if it is possible to implement, as then
> we could use any alerting method with a simple piece of code as I
> do for WSJT-X Neil G4DBN
>
> -------- Original message -------- From: N1BUG <paul@n1bug.com>
> Date: 08/03/2019 10:43 (GMT+00:00) To:
> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb-lf-group@groups.io,
> 600MRG@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [rsgb-lf-group] LF: Audio
> alert for JT-9 activity?
>
> Hello Rik, all...
>
> The alert feature would be useful to me.
>
> Ideal alert level to me would be new station *or* DX station
> (based on distance). But if I have to pick on, then new station.
>
> Alert via a pin on a serial port seems best, as long as it has
> the possibility to work with some of the better USB to serial
> converters. I have three sound cards, it's still not enough,
> they are all busy. :)
>
> 73, Paul N1BUG
>
>
>
> On 3/8/19 5:24 AM, Rik Strobbe wrote:
>> Hello Chris, Andy, all,
>>
>>
>> Regarding SlowJT9: adding a simple alert via a serial port pin
>> going high is easy. Via that pin you can drive whatever you
>> want (a simple buzzer or a more sophisticated "alarm").
>>
>> Other options such as UDP messages, an e-mail or message to a
>> smartphone to be sent are also possible but will be more labor
>> intensive to implement.
>>
>>
>> But the first question is: what events should trigger the
>> alarm?
>>
>> There can be various criteria:
>>
>> - DX station (DX = based on distance or on other continent?)
>>
>> - New DXXX entity
>>
>> - New station (never worked before)
>>
>> - A specific callsign (useful on sked)
>>
>> - ...
>>
>> Evaluating the incoming messages might become more complicated
>> that implementing the alert itself ...
>>
>>
>> So my questions to all of you:
>>
>> - To whom would alert option in SlowJT9 be useful?
>>
>> - Based on what criteria should it be possible to trigger an
>> alert?
>>
>> - What way the alert should be send?
>>
>>
>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Van: rsgb-lf-group@groups.io
>> <rsgb-lf-group@groups.io> namens Andy G4JNT
>> <andy.g4jnt@gmail.com> Verzonden: donderdag 7 maart 2019 18:49
>> Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; rsgb-lf-group@groups.io
>> Onderwerp: Re: [rsgb-lf-group] LF: Audio alert for JT-9
>> activity?
>>
>> The trouble with that is that the sound card output is used
>> for audio drive to the transmitter, so unless you play your Tx
>> audio also through the speakers or use different sound cards,
>> you'll run into complications.
>>
>> One way, without actually doing anything to the WSJT-X
>> software would be to intercept the UDP messages broadcast by
>> WSJT-X and, using a another prog running on teh sam emachine,
>> read these messages and parse them for a JT9 decode.   Then do
>> whatever you need to do for an audio alert.  Sound card issues
>> are the same, but a piezo bleeper on a spare COM port would do
>> the trick. JT9-SLow software doesn't broadcast UDP messages,
>> but that's more amenable to the author implementing the
>> facility - perhaps ?
>>
>> Andy www.g4jnt.com<http://www.g4jnt.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 at 17:23, Chris Wilson
>> <dead.fets@gmail.com<mailto:dead.fets@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I  just  sent  this  message to the WSJT-X forum, would anyone
>> support this  request? If so please respond there. If Slow
>> JT-9 could add this I would find it a very useful addition :)
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> I work mainly on LF 136kHz and although even trans Atlantic
>> QSO's occur from here in the UK activity is very limited and
>> spasmodic. When I check for activity I have often missed the
>> chance to respond. A selectable audio alert of activity would
>> be a Godsend, would there be any interest in supporting such
>> an addition? Thanks 2E0ILY
>>
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~,
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Best regards, Chris
>> mailto:dead.fets@gmail.com<mailto:dead.fets@gmail.com>

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