Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id x1QC9C8v006270 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2019 13:09:20 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1gybTm-0001M4-FJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Feb 2019 12:04:58 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1gybTi-0001Lv-Eb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Feb 2019 12:04:54 +0000 Received: from mx1.lylix.net ([74.86.36.27]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1gybTg-0000Iu-R0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Feb 2019 12:04:53 +0000 Received: from no3m.local (dynamic-acs-24-144-206-160.zoominternet.net [24.144.206.160]) (Authenticated sender: eric@lylix.net) by mx1.lylix.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C0E351A408C5 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2019 07:04:44 -0500 (EST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <942860C848184BA2A0A9103E0EE56DF7@DELL4> <1UTEEgOcyQ.DAejAuRZtn9@optiplex980-pc> <92784b07-a799-fb4e-9080-e1e8bb167b75@n1bug.com> <1UTEEhG1Ft.EdI1dlVbFOZ@optiplex980-pc> <3062ef19-bb69-3187-e8db-6a6bf5050739@n1bug.com> <234098919.20190226111836@gmail.com> From: Eric NO3M Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 07:04:43 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <234098919.20190226111836@gmail.com> Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Don't have a U3S to test with here, but the normal drive chain is: K3 (10.137 khz out) xvtr (137 khz out) 137 khz LPF Doubler (trifilar xfmr, BAT41 schottky diodes) Tuned filter (parallel coil + cap between signal and ground) LM311P squarer (80-90mV level detect) 401 [...] Content analysis details: (-0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record X-Scan-Signature: 33d261536bb1467bb13d5764461d5ec4 Subject: Re: LF: Class D current spikes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Don't have a U3S to test with here, but the normal drive chain is: K3 (10.137 khz out) xvtr (137 khz out) 137 khz LPF Doubler (trifilar xfmr, BAT41 schottky diodes) Tuned filter (parallel coil + cap between signal and ground) LM311P squarer (80-90mV level detect) 4013 flip-flop MCP1404 driver (4.5A) with ability to key supply line (per G0MRF circuit) I'm primarily interested in CW, WSPR, JT9... CW not a problem with a constant carrier and keying the driver. Don't intend to run Opera but understand Jay's method of doing so. So running the exciter at 2x excitation and WSJTx at 2x tone spacing works flawlessly?  Guess that's an option... But, going back to what Rik was eluding to... a hanging driver output.  Can anyone capture the end of the RF envelope from a U3S when running WSPR?  Just a thought, perhaps the RF is ending exactly at a zero crossing, whereas a typical PC/soundcard + exciter may not be and that is causing this issue.  I can't imagine anything else that would be different; after all the filtering and processing, my driver outputs to the FET gates are very clean. 73 Eric NO3M On 2/26/19 6:18 AM, Chris Wilson wrote: > > Hello N1BUG, > > Just to add things were MUCH worst using a X2 multiplier circuit > (Jay's). I now use an exciter frequency of X2 direct both from the > U3S, and as of late X2 from the TS-590 into a simple squarer and use > WSPR in the "Advanced" X2 mode to correct the WSPR tones. No issues at > all with either. OPERA is a no no as of this time, it is a FET killer > :) Don't know why though. It would be great to get to the bottom of > all this! > >