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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: some time ago the yahoo group was formed because of two problems: lack of archives and problems getting mail from/to blacksheep. both are solved. the problems in getting mail from/to blacksheep were usually due to the mail provider's servers being misconfigured (not blacksheep's). i think this is less of a problem now. 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The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --17435139-1238230729-1549122052=:725 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT some time ago the yahoo group was formed because of two problems: lack of archives and problems getting mail from/to blacksheep. both are solved. the problems in getting mail from/to blacksheep were usually due to the mail provider's servers being misconfigured (not blacksheep's). i think this is less of a problem now. the first problem is solved too, the list has an unofficial archive here: https://klubnl.pl/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/ btw the archive dates from july 2014, if anyone has an archive of earlier emails in mbox format, i'd be glad to add them to the archive. i don't think there are any more valid reasons, apart from the fact that that mailing lists are not "modern" (no shiny webpage that can dissapear anytime the owner choses so). VY 73 Jacek / SQ5BPF On Thu, 31 Jan 2019, dhchurch wrote: > Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 10:58:12 +0000 > From: dhchurch > Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > To: RSGB LF group > Subject: Re: Re: LF: Re: [rsgb-lf-group] SMT PA0RDT Board > > Hello All >   > I simply dislike Yahoo and many others because they have been known to collect personal data. It's bad > enough trying to avoid Google but there are other sites like Facebook which really are both annoying and > worrying. >   > 73, Hugh, M0DS  >   > ----- Receiving the following content ----- > From: DK7FC > Receiver: rsgb_lf_group > Time: 2019-01-30, 14:58:33 > Subject: Re: LF: Re: [rsgb-lf-group] SMT PA0RDT Board > > Mal, > > why are you subscribed to that .io list at all? I don't care about it completely. It is simply not > existing. Tomorrow it will be groups.to and then lists.li and then mail.vt, of course always with > new features and advantages. Each few years the same story. It is so boring!!! > > My car becomes 30 years old in a few weeks and i still like it as in the first week (i bought it 16 > years ago, for just 800 EUR). People told me that it would be better to change it to a NEWer > version, think of all the advantages, oh and the SAFETY!!! ;-) And then the advertisement. More, > better, faster, efficient... uuuh. > > You know, there are those people who somehow like to shutdown blacksheep. Why do they have that > motivation? I observed the effect in 2012, when the super-yahoo advanced group came up. It wasn't > enough for them to move to the other group, which is their free decision of course. Why aren't they > just happy with all the new advantages? What is going on into their minds that they feel motivated > to destroy the group which other people still like? Coexistence unwanted? Simple-minded, indeed. > But dangerous. > > 73, Stefan > > > > > > > Am 30.01.2019 15:25, schrieb mal hamilton: > BLACKSHEEP has stood the test of TIME, others have been and gone. People use Blacksheep > because it is reliable and has been going for over 20 years. > How long will groups.ie last ? Some people like Choice > G3KEV > ? > ? > From: Alberto di Bene > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 5:44 PM > To: rsgb-lf-group@groups.io > Subject: Re: [rsgb-lf-group] SMT PA0RDT Board > ? > On 2019-01-29 18:12, Andy TALBOT wrote: > Pity the Blacksheep only subscribers can't get at it :-) > > > I don't understand why the group duplication still exists... when the group was hosted by > Yahoo, all the Yahoo-haters had a valid reason to refuge themselves in the reassuring wool of > a black sheep... but now that the main group has migrated to groups.io, frankly I don't see > the reason why the blacksheep list should continue to exist... but I am a simple-minded > person, maybe those reasons are escaping my understanding... :-) > > 73? Alberto? I2PHD > > ? > _._,_._,_ > > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > Groups.io Links: > > You receive all messages sent to this group. > > View/Reply Online (#8542) | Reply To Group | Reply To Sender | Mute This Topic | New Topic > > Your Subscription | Contact Group Owner | Unsubscribe [g3kevmal@talktalk.net] > > _._,_._,_ > > > --17435139-1238230729-1549122052=:725--