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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Stefan, that's insane! What's the purpose of the DC offset of 7.5 kV? Is the antenna tuned (unlikley) or you are just applying the volts from a voltage amplifier? Hope the antenna is well insulated from people and nature as skin effect won't save your bacon (unlike the higher frequencies). 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What's the purpose of the DC offset of 7.5 kV? Is the antenna tuned (unlikley) or you are just applying the volts from a voltage amplifier? Hope the antenna is well insulated from people and nature as skin effect won't save your bacon (unlike the higher frequencies). 73, Dimitris VK2COW Στις Παρ, 8 Φεβ 2019 στις 3:10 π.μ., ο/η DK7FC έγραψε: > > Hi ELF ;-) > > I'm glad to announce that since 15:46 UTC i am transmitting on ELF (the real ELF, i.e. into the range of 3...30 Hz, ITU radio band 1 ) for the first time ever. > > Here are the parameters: > > TX frequency: 22.970 Hz > Wavelength of that frequency: 13060 km > Antenna voltage: 4.8 kV rms (+ a DC component of 7.5 kV) > Antenna current: 325 uA > ERP: 600 aW, or 6E-16 W > > Call it QRP! > The goal is to detect the signal on my 3.5 km distant tree grabber, whose E field is now working again. Since the E field probe is not to far above the tree, the effective height is not as much as it should ideally be, at this frequency, so the RX is somewhat deaf. Anyway i can see the Schumann resonances and the 60 Hz power grid. So i hope it will work. > > A spectrogram which is centered on the frequency of interest in now shown at http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_VLF_Grabber2.html (3rd window). But maybe 424 uHz FFT bin width is even to optimistic! In a few minutes we'll see more :-) It takes about 40 minutes until a peak could have fully developed... > > 73, Stefan >