Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id x14BIpIk001348 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 12:18:57 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1gqcCl-0004n0-N3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2019 11:14:23 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1gqcCk-0004mr-Vx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2019 11:14:22 +0000 Received: from mail-vs1-xe29.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::e29]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1gqcCi-0007lL-5B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2019 11:14:21 +0000 Received: by mail-vs1-xe29.google.com with SMTP id b74so8194717vsd.9 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2019 03:14:20 -0800 (PST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=9kijYUYhMc2CKc/JKzsFTrcyJdik+/5hVL6wnbjQEfg=; b=jKZ9SW+aUAXGFzKSIwemhXg43UtfnkJtCYcZXLiOk4wjtXOa8kHUqN5kBZ/ualMuqb nQgQvYq06oR/y8V2FOIlJQ7YxJ6TRpGm2odGyPUo1McXzO4lifWnVw5QuHuxSHnJOU4C 8gkNR2XNPl2eJJefkZDLC1SdRVqOJwtbXet5gU6CMDt54y4DCI/hsobS1nWszElFoBuO D+0AjdBkREqm2t6hanw3MoOu7Y2OkceNmIsttopxmQa+ctWVA87QiB7TwYvCrZyhuVvk AGq1qEqKgIYdxnzkiB4MjxrQRZbjgNycHARpgppFgv82hTJV39Fducln0XNyitbabllp 4ZBA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=9kijYUYhMc2CKc/JKzsFTrcyJdik+/5hVL6wnbjQEfg=; b=s1NlZlJRY94SdcPqZ2m0qmvdB/MxI4rzsWPpa0oOtMMsVZgZHjE5b3MR0gjCAcTQ+5 Cnn5NrdLudO/myDN/ScJipvJ6XuRjJ1ovwSm2DeJhRi1eQNGektrHydbqblLcub5Cchd w59ZjEXLFSgTb+X4ekUU/yqX0AAHq2L7po2j46IiG4BPxxysekXWd2nKjIlUZJJndGQ8 1bspora5qvrbBzObR8+Ywsk5NKNwAb0jwWXDuxrq4Q6nM5oDE6PwnK0obgG9nUuJ3hyK 0uaMZrXpjzDm3omoAR7fCBllj1cTy4cTTwXaNgMzB0x9/O8+060DPu+OqWiNB+sdJ8+Q OVZw== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukfKiu8gxXAgSWGoj1yO6lZ3ADrQXPwomyhR1Z9gZP+pNa9lnPG8 gs/iPwPl3l+nU+1aQTa6fbNxvJtP5h/js+xMuwA4/w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN5QAix+RAYKqvKjvNPt3N+ePUt+NAEePH40CpaXUaUkFNPmHOtYcm9hwNFyM1lyUnjp0uAnRzzewqOHB2ZrlZA= X-Received: by 2002:a67:dd94:: with SMTP id i20mr23478477vsk.111.1549278858709; Mon, 04 Feb 2019 03:14:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7e1ee234-21b9-d8b1-f0e1-e2eace39a968@usa.net> <71d8e1d2-69cb-4ecb-0205-028cb5a81ff9@usa.net> <270E8BB04B204DDBBF0B786FE7615E34@malcoHP> <5C51BB99.8060206@posteo.de> <1097725691.481056.1549217201654@mail2.virginmedia.com> <91ad4456-4056-3166-18f9-22a252f3edf0@abelian.org> In-Reply-To: <91ad4456-4056-3166-18f9-22a252f3edf0@abelian.org> From: Andy Talbot Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 11:14:07 +0000 Message-ID: To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: There is no secrecy with the groups.io You just register All messages are there in the archive Andy www.g4jnt.com (owner of two other groups.io) Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [2607:f8b0:4864:20:0:0:0:e29 listed in] [list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (andy.g4jnt[at]gmail.com) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 3d0ae5b4ae8b74dc4bf5c1dbe3fef430 Subject: Re: LF: LF Reflector archive Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000080f0c05810f98b1" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false --000000000000080f0c05810f98b1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" There is no secrecy with the groups.io You just register All messages are there in the archive Andy www.g4jnt.com (owner of two other groups.io) On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 10:22, Paul Nicholson wrote: > > The archive of blacksheep maintained at > > https://klubnl.pl/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/ > > works well, is at least partially indexed by Google, and the > archive is downloadable in the long-established and well known > mbox format. > > The old Yahoo group and its migration to groups.io does not > have a public archive, therefore messages posted are lost > forever. Without an archive, there is no enduring history > of LF and VLF developments. > > When blacksheep eventually fails, the RSGB LF group will at that > moment disappear from history unless a new non-secret group is > created on groups.io > > Apart from the unwarranted secrecy, groups.io provides an ideal > platform for a forum, there are no privacy or security issues. > > -- > Paul Nicholson > -- > > --000000000000080f0c05810f98b1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There is no secrecy with the groups.io
You just register
All messages are there in the archive


On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 10:22, Paul Nichols= on <vlf0403@abelian.org> w= rote:

The archive of blacksheep maintained at

=C2=A0 https://klubnl.pl/rsgb_lf_group-a= rchives/html/rsgb_lf_group/

works well, is at least partially indexed by Google, and the
archive is downloadable in the long-established and well known
mbox format.

The old Yahoo group and its migration to groups.io does not
have a public archive, therefore messages posted are lost
forever.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Without an archive, there is no enduring history
of LF and VLF developments.

When blacksheep eventually fails, the RSGB LF group will at that
moment disappear from history unless a new non-secret group is
created on groups.io

Apart from the unwarranted secrecy, groups.io provides an ideal
platform for a forum, there are no privacy or security issues.

--
Paul Nicholson
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