Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id x14ANnIH001090 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 11:23:57 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1gqbKe-0004eP-IC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2019 10:18:28 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1gqbKd-0004eG-UO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2019 10:18:27 +0000 Received: from simba.netcom.co.uk ([185.53.59.69]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1gqbKc-0007d4-6G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2019 10:18:26 +0000 X-DKIM-Result: Domain=abelian.org Result=Signature OK DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=abelian.org ; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:References:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Mm/2wVq5wZ3oO3s4yPmqLDdoD8P8a9zxUu5R/p8KUgI=; b=QE4W0MEnkoHVoeE3xDkXJ/2k/a Bj7trn1qcHdhjTJrDSDULRGlgPhJVK3PDCGLZSN/2LOVQzIqJUpmaa1vjgQnNBb6Eyh3wV9MMIywE kirc7M3+L1vNUtSswHjCsf1B+yrYKgXi/jcX4ANuiF1oQ0ioljfQ1q6dBtbx8/AL+MZc=; Received: from i-194-106-52-83.freedom2surf.net ([194.106.52.83]:50306 helo=pn.abelian.org) by simba.netcom.co.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1gqbKb-0003Ps-DN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2019 10:18:25 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pn.abelian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809EB4002D4 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 10:18:04 +0000 (UTC) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <7e1ee234-21b9-d8b1-f0e1-e2eace39a968@usa.net> <71d8e1d2-69cb-4ecb-0205-028cb5a81ff9@usa.net> <270E8BB04B204DDBBF0B786FE7615E34@malcoHP> <5C51BB99.8060206@posteo.de> <1097725691.481056.1549217201654@mail2.virginmedia.com> From: Paul Nicholson Message-ID: <91ad4456-4056-3166-18f9-22a252f3edf0@abelian.org> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 10:18:04 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - simba.netcom.co.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - blacksheep.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - abelian.org X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: simba.netcom.co.uk: authenticated_id: catchall@abelian.org X-Authenticated-Sender: simba.netcom.co.uk: catchall@abelian.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: The archive of blacksheep maintained at https://klubnl.pl/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/ works well, is at least partially indexed by Google, and the archive is downloadable in the long-established and well known mbox format. Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [185.53.59.69 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record X-Scan-Signature: bb61bee384896e075004ae5ec954ddd2 Subject: Re: LF: LF Reflector archive Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false The archive of blacksheep maintained at https://klubnl.pl/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/ works well, is at least partially indexed by Google, and the archive is downloadable in the long-established and well known mbox format. The old Yahoo group and its migration to groups.io does not have a public archive, therefore messages posted are lost forever. Without an archive, there is no enduring history of LF and VLF developments. When blacksheep eventually fails, the RSGB LF group will at that moment disappear from history unless a new non-secret group is created on groups.io Apart from the unwarranted secrecy, groups.io provides an ideal platform for a forum, there are no privacy or security issues. -- Paul Nicholson --