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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello Steffi, RR. Maybe you can ask for a cooker with a GPS input to stabilise the switching frequency. It also needs a PSK input, then you can send me a message. Hey, i also have a grabber, it is just 175 km dista [...] Content analysis details: (-2.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [185.67.36.65 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record X-Scan-Signature: 9d01e9df836df8dd3868645661e1c1f7 Subject: Re: LF: Question: QRM from induction cookers? - Summary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello Steffi, RR. Maybe you can ask for a cooker with a GPS input to stabilise the switching frequency. It also needs a PSK input, then you can send me a message. Hey, i also have a grabber, it is just 175 km distant. If you leave a trace here as well, you can invite me too ;-) 73, GL, Stefan Am 17.02.2019 22:25, schrieb Steffi: > Hi again, > > thank you for so many answers! > > Special thanks to Eberhard, DL3ZID, for the detailed spectrum > screenshots of different QRM sources and also to Alan, G3NYK, for the > link to the excellent article about QRM from a NEFF induction hob. > > I see that there will sure be some QRM from an induction cooker. But > mostly, it will be off >23 hours/day - and I can decide about it > myself. Indeed, the advantages of an induction cooker mentioned by > Dexter are important. > Maybe I will buy a little extra ceramic glass cooktop, to have a > low-noise backup cooking solution :) > > The answers also show, that in reality the major problem is QRM from > other electronics which runs 24/7 and not only before lunch. So we > must carefully chose a "quiet" solar (PV) inverter if we want to > install solar panels on the roof, for example. Or we'll have to modify > it with additional filters... > > After all, it's even harder to prevent QRN = Neighbour-made-noise. > Hopefully they don't use PLC or something like that! > > And yes, Stefan, I live near Nürnberg and I know Markus and his VLF > grabber. I will tell him to check the grabber for signals from my > induction cooker, when it's active the first time. If he can prove the > reception from MY(!) hob, I will send him a QSL card and invite him > for lunch :) But it will be hard, it's more than 30 km. > > 73, > de Steffi - dl8nsb > > > Steffi schrieb: >> Hi LF Group, >> >> soon I will have to buy a new kitchen and I wonder, if an induction >> cooker is the right choice (regarding QRM!). Does anyone have experience >> with QRM on MF, LF, VLF produced by an induction cooker? Which brands >> can be recommended? >> >> I already heard, that there won't be problems on 80m, but what about >> lower frequencies? >> >> I'm not yet QRV on MF/LF, but maybe in the future.. >> >> Any comments and experiences will be helpful! >> >> 73, >> de Steffi - dl8nsb >> >> >> >