Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id x1HLUAe8029790 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 22:30:11 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1gvTwh-0003Ob-B0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 21:25:55 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1gvTwg-0003OS-K6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 21:25:54 +0000 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1gvTwf-0003LB-5O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 21:25:53 +0000 Received: from [10.212.200.11] ([87.186.114.93]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Meg8W-1gg0O6331c-00OIMP for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 22:25:50 +0100 Message-ID: <5C69D15C.4000709@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 22:25:48 +0100 From: Steffi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5C656A8F.70702@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <5C656A8F.70702@gmx.de> X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:ce/tWpdTk2SK510rpfSx2l2Hh50Ew+aJ1fK/ZNob/e8J/dbRj2E ORGR9h+XwDIN4vqz8GrQoga5rcps2Nn7ufHfbVXmpyo703zo3vwmTmG8DcO/eYd07Fgm/FP JUt3siIMZMhG36mnH/b9BXCvB8+qG3gXdLTV5gEmR7jjR1JPtjtMkNMd2KkLrog5g1eF9xY yc7UL/Qc4hF72/Ohp9gLw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:0vn6+jDgAO0=:LXB0/f1Dtq3a5YTfYTmd6K NwHMTKIRkN2/X9HZuujTFMk2Xn83Y4KZKMhZ3Dk3MsPvuszEyFFcVPf7HGOIje3SvUMwBPiMq dZLaYakXBvbPdg0iag0T2k9v9SpN01oIb1K9UXjBKWlh9NDtpkpj1C4WyYni7emk6vzyiijg3 aI3GryI7r1WAGECvDrr/IZi4lzHYO0yPU4I0EQaA9hAKUJ95aN+JSQJEOKpYgJ3T417rVdgRk W0VZs+ZnLRfNs+IQBEtEJs4uEpFwUeg7jRi3g00OQMDCJgOCgOtzD8eb4/FniTx7qJGV+mT6z eaP6jLm19qTY/t83VQcWkybXWu7Qg6m48OCPXUP1Gi6C7j+FKJsaKKKM/rQUv46pX42c8PiDL 5RxR9muaCCkIZs713aptUtzyjgqXazLLbka8/o5pwt2lQgUYlQ3CQK1tSlRHUTGhaNY36kIeR FwJ1J3SJ4TkVdvwsXAajczdouiWwzqVVfeQMagQ9P77yml/aO6040FbzyPpCyNn0VIJ/N78Gf YV4ZovzhdEM+g/h68Wxj4CqpWvqiPZSnF2cMxqskrrXHlbBhwRD3QBFdcwQ6qChZXLD+bghey 2Bcd/gQBFyIhybaMISjJ3hwMMFlk9DUdmAEjj5V/t47SC7womNbPI3/mzcCKMEiuiQk9vXewr ctBmQpNW+5prSdZnIFj2NGQ2X9j6Tv8ARkeOwXJJJgOZTjSDRNCjmpBJpiKUHpSaeOwKyGjA8 y+AOJgIitazHBI7NDU0CmDYb2PSp5da+YusCUh8Q4GmJ4WqAr9o7wj8Vs/YGch6xhTnwf9Z2z 5Z/OOvpwySMLnRjuxftEC1cARSchKXtbiyqlGIFki0h6RZOlCsnSBw9UBzmgIhBO2Dj2fjm1T zrfiSwDLv3Y5fBqIigBaz2wZDQmFtHX24XfI9Vd/TwRlDwlrYG6x7lyGwLKMlZ X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi again, thank you for so many answers! Special thanks to Eberhard, DL3ZID, for the detailed spectrum screenshots of different QRM sources and also to Alan, G3NYK, for the link to the excellent article about QRM from a NEFF induction hob. Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [212.227.15.18 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (jota.s[at]gmx.de) X-Scan-Signature: ce0e5a4ae990e5a63db3ab7aea21191b Subject: Re: LF: Question: QRM from induction cookers? - Summary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi again, thank you for so many answers! Special thanks to Eberhard, DL3ZID, for the detailed spectrum screenshots of different QRM sources and also to Alan, G3NYK, for the link to the excellent article about QRM from a NEFF induction hob. I see that there will sure be some QRM from an induction cooker. But mostly, it will be off >23 hours/day - and I can decide about it myself. Indeed, the advantages of an induction cooker mentioned by Dexter are important. Maybe I will buy a little extra ceramic glass cooktop, to have a low-noise backup cooking solution :) The answers also show, that in reality the major problem is QRM from other electronics which runs 24/7 and not only before lunch. So we must carefully chose a "quiet" solar (PV) inverter if we want to install solar panels on the roof, for example. Or we'll have to modify it with additional filters... After all, it's even harder to prevent QRN = Neighbour-made-noise. Hopefully they don't use PLC or something like that! And yes, Stefan, I live near Nürnberg and I know Markus and his VLF grabber. I will tell him to check the grabber for signals from my induction cooker, when it's active the first time. If he can prove the reception from MY(!) hob, I will send him a QSL card and invite him for lunch :) But it will be hard, it's more than 30 km. 73, de Steffi - dl8nsb Steffi schrieb: > Hi LF Group, > > soon I will have to buy a new kitchen and I wonder, if an induction > cooker is the right choice (regarding QRM!). Does anyone have experience > with QRM on MF, LF, VLF produced by an induction cooker? Which brands > can be recommended? > > I already heard, that there won't be problems on 80m, but what about > lower frequencies? > > I'm not yet QRV on MF/LF, but maybe in the future.. > > Any comments and experiences will be helpful! > > 73, > de Steffi - dl8nsb > > >