Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id x17J6hZ7026247 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 20:06:44 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1gros9-00038K-B5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2019 18:58:05 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1gropG-000387-06 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2019 18:55:06 +0000 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1grop5-0000Xf-2J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2019 18:54:57 +0000 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82CF82400E5 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 19:54:52 +0100 (CET) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=posteo.de Result=Signature OK DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.de; s=2017; t=1549565692; bh=RBhGAkrfzGEiA1u784ehv9ajKnOilkC12GMD0HZ9tyM=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=QR7y5CObShIJ3ui3CTAd1D5FblGwgn+4qlroIHM5l9UtQZJk6yti71C9lMUgOtlvD JlZccYg34wocy53Pvu0YoJksWsOhp6oJQPFGiV7+uWG8JDPWjZSKwY35eL55j2TGA5 it/n0GkgrcZAfoSgf4keFtPZ/fcFmW/CrR3Yatc/56Ce6fFWonI+QrRDWLmf8cCFFi zxK90sAFFfDvpdOjxVOg79ho0E+WJRs9FOR0sl8Y8eoHKbpN+ZEprbfFSKky62fbYT W++h6pb6l78lu2mDk50SE1c1e1+7ZUxGuqGJoYYQBic4/MKUIqdKaO5OkedoptlXEu f1yquHOyQJKZg== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 43wSDC6gZ7z9rxN for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 19:54:49 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5C5C7EF9.2060804@posteo.de> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2019 19:54:49 +0100 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5C5C5757.5080906@posteo.de> In-Reply-To: <5C5C5757.5080906@posteo.de> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: ...wow, after analysing the first 90 minutes of the transmission i found that the best SNR is achieved without sferic blanking! So then the hum filter and the low pass filter can be disabled too. So f [...] Content analysis details: (-2.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [185.67.36.66 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: b707651713bcd4ad9db4bb0f5d794041 Subject: Re: ELF: Carrier on 22.97 Hz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010205070004020504000400" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010205070004020504000400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ...wow, after analysing the first 90 minutes of the transmission i found that the best SNR is achieved without sferic blanking! So then the hum filter and the low pass filter can be disabled too. So far, during that noisy evening period, i'm getting about *14 dB SNR in 185 uHz.* Unfortunately i temporarely overloaded the PC while doing the analysis, which caused an interruption of the stream and then all SpecLab instances did a restart. Now the spectrogram is generated from the unfiltered and unblanked stream and now we can already see a clear peak right on the expected frequency, showing about 10 dB SNR. I intend to run the carrier at least for 24 hours, if all works well. Not sure if and how the antenna current will drop when it starts to rain. It would have been better to decouple the DC component from the antenna by using a big series capacitor but id didn't have one that holds 20 kV or so. More later... 73, Stefan Am 07.02.2019 17:05, schrieb DK7FC: > Hi ELF ;-) > > I'm glad to announce that since 15:46 UTC i am transmitting on ELF > (the real ELF, i.e. into the range of 3...30 Hz, ITU radio band 1 > ) for the first > time ever. > > Here are the parameters: > > TX frequency: *22.970 Hz* > Wavelength of that frequency: *13060 km* > Antenna voltage: *4.8 kV rms* (+ a DC component of 7.5 kV) > Antenna current: *325 uA* > ERP: 600 aW, or *6E-16 W* > > Call it QRP! > The goal is to detect the signal on my 3.5 km distant tree grabber, > whose E field is now working again. Since the E field probe is not to > far above the tree, the effective height is not as much as it should > ideally be, at this frequency, so the RX is somewhat deaf. Anyway i > can see the Schumann resonances and the 60 Hz power grid. So i hope it > will work. > > A spectrogram which is centered on the frequency of interest in now > shown at > http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_VLF_Grabber2.html > (3rd window). But maybe 424 uHz FFT bin width is even to optimistic! > In a few minutes we'll see more :-) It takes about 40 minutes until a > peak could have fully developed... > > 73, Stefan > --------------010205070004020504000400 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ...wow, after analysing the first 90 minutes of the transmission i found that the best SNR is achieved without sferic blanking! So then the hum filter and the low pass filter can be disabled too.
So far, during that noisy evening period, i'm getting about 14 dB SNR in 185 uHz.
Unfortunately i temporarely overloaded the PC while doing the analysis, which caused an interruption of the stream and then all SpecLab instances did a restart.

Now the spectrogram is generated from the unfiltered and unblanked stream and now we can already see a clear peak right on the expected frequency, showing about 10 dB SNR.

I intend to run the carrier at least for 24 hours, if all works well. Not sure if and how the antenna current will drop when it starts to rain. It would have been better to decouple the DC component from the antenna by using a big series capacitor but id didn't have one that holds 20 kV or so.

More later...

73, Stefan



Am 07.02.2019 17:05, schrieb DK7FC:
Hi ELF ;-)

I'm glad to announce that since 15:46 UTC i am transmitting on ELF (the real ELF, i.e. into the range of 3...30 Hz, ITU radio band 1 ) for the first time ever.

Here are the parameters:

TX frequency: 22.970 Hz
Wavelength of that frequency: 13060 km
Antenna voltage: 4.8 kV rms (+ a DC component of 7.5 kV)
Antenna current: 325 uA
ERP: 600 aW, or 6E-16 W

Call it QRP!
The goal is to detect the signal on my 3.5 km distant tree grabber, whose E field is now working again. Since the E field probe is not to far above the tree, the effective height is not as much as it should ideally be, at this frequency, so the RX is somewhat deaf. Anyway i can see the Schumann resonances and the 60 Hz power grid. So i hope it will work.

A spectrogram which is centered on the frequency of interest in now shown at http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_VLF_Grabber2.html (3rd window). But maybe 424 uHz FFT bin width is even to optimistic! In a few minutes we'll see more :-) It takes about 40 minutes until a peak could have fully developed...

73, Stefan

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