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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: The first transmission at midnight went out ok, but the second one at 0:30 was aborted due to beginning rain. 73, Markus -----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung----- Von: Markus Vester An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: So, 3. Feb. 2019 1:18 Betreff: Re: LF: EbNaut test from u-blox module Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [74.6.131.125 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (markusvester[at]aol.com) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 3df6620ae1cf83b986cf2fc02407da16 Subject: Re: LF: EbNaut test from u-blox module Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2050718_480173661.1549154062236" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ------=_Part_2050718_480173661.1549154062236 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The first transmission at midnight went out ok, but the second one at 0:30 = was aborted due to beginning rain. 73, Markus -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- Von: Markus Vester An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: So, 3. Feb. 2019 1:18 Betreff: Re: LF: EbNaut test from u-blox module Thanks Stefan and Michel (F5WK) for your excellent reports!=20 The=C2=A0residual phase variation was surely from the antenna moving in the= wind. I haven't been using the=C2=A0automatic tuner, and also did some man= ual tweaking=C2=A0near the beginning.=C2=A0Interestingly Michel's phase tra= ce was a perfect copy of yours. The exciter and 250 W PA are the same as=C2=A0in my usual LF setup, except = that the feed from the SSB=C2=A0exciter has been replaced by the TP2 output= from the GPS device,=C2=A0connected=C2=A0through 470 ohm and a piece of co= ax. The=C2=A0LEA-6T module came=C2=A0from Hongkong for=C2=A027 =E2=82=AC an= d is very similar to the one described here http://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/ebay-u-blox-lea-6t-gps-module-teardow= n-and-initial-test/ I=C2=A0am now repeating the same=C2=A0pair of transmissions=C2=A0at 0:00 an= d 0:30 UT, but moved to=C2=A0137545 Hz to fit inside=C2=A0Jay's narrowband = recording.=20 Best 73, Markus=C2=A0=C2=A0(DF6NM) =C2=A0=C2=A0 -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- Von: DK7FC An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Sa, 2. Feb. 2019 14:52 Betreff: Re: LF: EbNaut test from u-blox module Hi Markus,=20 Great work! It seems to work well. There are some dynamic changes inthe pha= se. Would you think it is propagation? So this is a Windows solution without the need to use an upconverter.Let's = see if this will help to make the mode more popular, or not. How did you connect the module to the PA, which kind of exciter? Iwould kno= w how to do it, just beeing curious... 73, Stefan Am 02.02.2019 13:46, schrieb Markus Vester: Think I have=C2=A0tamed my u-blox LEA-6T module well enough, sowill try t= o=C2=A0send an EbNaut test this afternoon: =20 Frequency 137536 Hz, Start times: 13:00 and 13:30 UT, 6 char, 3 sec symbols, =C2=A08k19A, crc 16. =20 Experimental scripts to control the timepulse-2 output are at=20 http://df6nm.bplaced.net/LF/u-blox_ebnaut/=C2=A0 and I intend to=C2=A0explain some details later this weekend. =20 Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) =20 -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- Von: DK7FC An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Do, 31. Jan. 2019 22:32 Betreff: Re: LF: NEO-7M as a frequency source =20 ... ...would like to try to transmit EbNaut on 137 kHz directly from such a=20 module. =20 73, Stefan =20 =20 =20 ------=_Part_2050718_480173661.1549154062236 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The first transmission at midnight went out ok, but the = second one at 0:30 was aborted due to beginning rain.

73, Markus
=

-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: Markus Vester <m= arkusvester@aol.com>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg>
Verschickt: So, 3. Feb. 2019 1:18
Betreff: Re: LF: EbNaut test= from u-blox module

Thanks Stefan and = Michel (F5WK) for your excellent reports!

The residual phase variation was surely from the antenna moving i= n the wind. I haven't been using the automatic tuner, and also did som= e manual tweaking near the beginning. Interestingly Michel's phas= e trace was a perfect copy of yours.

T= he exciter and 250 W PA are the same as in my usual LF setup, except t= hat the feed from the SSB exciter has been replaced by the TP2 output = from the GPS device, connected through 470 ohm and a piece of coa= x. The LEA-6T module came from Hongkong for 27 =E2=82=AC and= is very similar to the one described here
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/= projects/ebay-u-blox-lea-6t-gps-module-teardown-and-initial-test/

I am now repeating the same pair of = transmissions at 0:00 and 0:30 UT, b= ut moved to 137545 Hz to fit inside Jay's narrow= band recording.

Best 73,
Markus  (DF6NM)

 =  

-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteil= ung-----
Von: DK7FC <selberdenken@posteo.de>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Sa, 2. Feb. 2019 14:52
Betreff: Re:= LF: EbNaut test from u-blox module

=
Hi Markus,

Great work! It seems to work well. There are some dynamic changes in the phase. Would you think it is propagation?
So this is a Windows solution without the need to use an upconverter. Let's see if this will help to make the mode more popular, or not.
How did you connect the module to the PA, which kind of exciter? I would know how to do it, just beeing curious...

73, Stefan


Am 02.02.2019 13:46, schrieb Markus Vester:
Think I have tamed my u-blox LEA-6T module well enough= , so will try to send an EbNaut test this afternoon:

Frequency 137536 Hz,
Start times: 13:00 and 13:30 UT,
6 char, 3 sec symbols,  8k19A, crc 16.

Experimental scripts to control the timepulse-2 output are at
http://df6nm.bplaced.net/LF/u-blox_ebnaut/ 
and I intend to explain some details later this weekend.

Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)

-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: DK7FC <selberdenken@posteo= .de>
An: rsgb_lf_group <r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Do, 31. Jan. 2019 22:32
Betreff: Re: LF: NEO-7M as a frequency source

...
...would like to try to transmit EbNaut on 137 kHz directly from such a
module.

73, Stefan



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