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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Rob, LF & EbNauters Thank you for all your efforts. Tonite we can try with: *QRG: 137545 Hz* *Coding 8K19A* *CRC 12* *5 sec./sym.* *3 characters* *no time delay* *duration: 32 min.* Content analysis details: (0.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [2a00:1450:4864:20:0:0:0:52c listed in] [list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.2 FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT Envelope-from freemail username ends in digit (riccardozoli80[at]gmail.com) 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (riccardozoli80[at]gmail.com) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 2728faa227459cbf7dd0051df2cd1c1d Subject: Re: LF: EbNaut tonite Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e05c110580262d49" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false --000000000000e05c110580262d49 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Rob, LF & EbNauters Thank you for all your efforts. Tonite we can try with: *QRG: 137545 Hz* *Coding 8K19A* *CRC 12* *5 sec./sym.* *3 characters* *no time delay* *duration: 32 min.* *Message repeated hourly, 1st on 2100z, last on 0700z.* *Unmodulated carrier from xx:32 to xx:00 minute.* Reports are welcome, as usual. 73 de Riccardo IW4DXW Il giorno Mer 23 Gen 2019, 13:37 Rob Renoud ha scritto: > Riccardo and Jay, > > No decodes here either. Had a number of low Rank false decodes also. > Suspect the low CRC may have allowed the false decodes. I had similar > results during the previous run. > > Suggest a shorter character message with a higher CRC with a similar > duration. Also, if possible, suggest transmitting the message on the hour > and running an unmodulated carrier during the idle period to enable > monitoring with ARGO or a similar app. I have found this very useful tool > with EbNaut transmissions from VO1NA and K3SIW on 2200m and 185.185... kHz > (LoFER) respectively. > > 73, > Rob - K3RWR > > On Jan 23, 2019, at 06:17, "jrusgrove@comcast.net" > wrote: > > Riccardo > > Late start last night (0000z). Unfortunately no decodes. There were > numerous low Rank false decodes ... not sure what's up with that! > > Jay W1VD > > > > *----- Original Message -----* > *From:* Riccardo Zoli > *Reply-To:* > *To:* LF Group > *Sent:* 1/22/2019 2:48:00 PM > *Subject:* Re: LF: EbNaut tonite > ------------------------------ > > Sorry: message repeated *every 30 minutes*. > > 73, Riccardo IW4DXW > > Il giorno Mar 22 Gen 2019, 20:15 Riccardo Zoli > ha scritto: > >> >> Jay, Rob, LF >> >> *QRG 137545 Hz* >> *Coding 8K19A* >> *CRC 8* >> *3 sec./sym.* >> *8 characters* >> *duration 29 min. 36 sec.* >> *no time delay* >> *(1st on 1930 UTC, last on 0700 UTC)* >> >> Reports are welcome >> >> >> All the best >> >> 73 de Riccardo IW4DXW >> >> >> >> Il giorno Lun 21 Gen 2019, 23:03 ha scritto: >> >>> Riccardo >>> >>> Glad to hear you found the problem. Will await your announcement and >>> look for your signal tomorrow night. >>> >>> Jay W1VD >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> *From:* Riccardo Zoli >>> *To:* LF Group >>> *Sent:* Monday, January 21, 2019 4:13 PM >>> *Subject:* Re: LF: EbNaut tonite >>> >>> >>> Jay, Rob, Markus, Stefan, Joe, LF >>> >>> >>> Jay, thanks again for the decode: congrats for your rx setup. >>> And thank you so much for trying, Rob. >>> >>> Here, the TP2 reference signal (not sufficiently filtered) overshot >>> sometimes the quadrature divider (x4) causing that phase jumps. The problem >>> is now fixed. >>> >>> A new TX EbNaut session is scheduled for starting tomorrow evening. >>> >>> All the best >>> >>> >>> 73 de Riccardo IW4DXW >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Il giorno Lun 21 Gen 2019, 13:20 jrusgrove@comcast.net < >>> jrusgrove@comcast.net> ha scritto: >>> >>>> Riccardo >>>> >>>> Corrected decode: >>>> >>>> 0300 Rank 0 car Eb/N0 2.3 Eb/N0 1.4 FBDECODE >>>> >>>> Jay W1VD >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *----- Original Message -----* >>>> *From:* >>>> *Reply-To:* >>>> *To:* >>>> *Sent:* 1/21/2019 6:53:39 AM >>>> *Subject:* Re: LF: EbNaut tonite >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> Stefan, Riccardo & EbNaut-eers >>>> >>>> >>>> Stefan ... good copy throughout the night. Riccardo ... unfortunately >>>> only one decode to report. Markus noted a frequency error ... curious if >>>> propagation or NE0-M8T? >>>> >>>> >>>> 137545 >>>> >>>> 2200 Rank 0 car Eb/N0 9.5 Eb/N0 9.2 RADIO GAGA >>>> 2300 - >>>> 0000 Rank 0 car Eb/N0 9.2 Eb/N0 9.3 RADIO GAGA >>>> 0100 Rank 0 car Eb/N0 6.0 Eb/N0 6.0 RADIO GAGA >>>> 0200 Rank 0 car Eb/N0 5.3 Eb/N0 5.9 RADIO GAGA >>>> 0300 Rank 0 car Eb/N0 6.1 Eb/N0 6.8 RADIO GAGA >>>> 0400 Rank 0 car Eb/N0 11.3 Eb/N0 10.4 RADIO GAGA >>>> 0500 Rank 0 car Eb/N0 3.7 Eb/N0 4.6 RADIO GAGA >>>> 0600 Rank 0 car Eb/N0 10.6 Eb/N0 10.2 RADIO GAGA >>>> >>>> >>>> 137547 >>>> >>>> 0300 Rank 0 car Eb/N0 10.0 Eb/N0 FBDECODE >>>> >>>> Jay W1VD >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *----- Original Message -----* >>>> *From:* DK7FC >>>> *Reply-To:* >>>> *To:* >>>> *Sent:* 1/20/2019 12:48:34 PM >>>> *Subject:* LF: EbNaut tonite >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> LF, >>>> >>>> Tonite: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *f = 137.545 kHzStart time: 20.JAN.2019 22:00:00.3 UTC (hourly, >>>> including 6 UTC)Symbol period: 1 sCharacters: 10CRC bits: 12Coding >>>> 16K21AAntenna current: 4 ADuration: 24:32 [mm:ss]* >>>> >>>> >>>> 73, Stefan >>>> >>>> --000000000000e05c110580262d49 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Rob, LF & EbNauters

Thank you for all your efforts.
Tonite we can= try with:

QRG: 137545 Hz
Coding 8K19A
CRC 12
5 sec./sym.
3 characters
no time delay<= /b>
duration: 32 min.
=
Message repeated hourly, 1st on 2100z= , last on 0700z.

Unmodulated carrier from xx:32 to xx:00 minute.

Reports are welcome, as usual.


73 de Riccardo IW4DXW

=


Il giorno Mer 23 Gen 2019, 13:= 37 Rob Renoud <k3rwr@md.metrocast.net> ha scritto:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Riccardo and Jay,

No decodes here either.=C2=A0 Had a number of low Rank false decodes a= lso.=C2=A0 Suspect the low CRC =C2=A0may have allowed the false decodes.=C2= =A0 I had similar results during the previous run.
Suggest a shorter character message with a higher = CRC with a similar duration.=C2=A0 Also, if possible, =C2=A0suggest transmi= tting the message on the hour and running an unmodulated carrier during the= idle period to enable monitoring with ARGO or a similar app.=C2=A0 I have = found this very useful tool with EbNaut transmissions from VO1NA and K3SIW = on 2200m and 185.185... kHz (LoFER) respectively.
73,
Rob - K3RWR

On Jan 23, 2019, at 06:17, "jrusgrove@comca= st.net" <jrusgrove@comcast.net> wrote:
=
Riccardo
=C2=A0
Late start last night (0000z). Unfortunately no decodes. There were nu= merous low Rank false decodes ... not sure what's up with that!
=C2=A0
Jay W1VD
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
----- Original Message -----
From: Riccardo Zoli <riccardozoli80@gmail.c= om>
Sent: 1/22/2019 2:48:00 PM
Subject: Re: LF: EbNaut tonite

Sorry: message repeated every 30 minutes.

73, Riccardo IW4DXW

Il giorno Mar 22 Gen 2019, 20:15 Riccardo Zoli <riccardozoli80@gmail.com> ha scritto:

Jay, Rob, LF

QRG 137545 Hz
Coding 8K19A
CRC 8
3 sec./sym.
8 characters
duration 29 min. 36 sec.
no time delay
(1st on 1930 UTC, last on 0700 UTC)

Reports are welcome


All the best

73 de Riccardo IW4DXW



Il giorno Lun 21 Gen 2019, 23:03 <jrusgrove@comcast.net> ha scritto:
Riccardo
=C2=A0
Glad to hear you found the problem. Wi= ll await your announcement and look for your signal tomorrow night.<= /div>
=C2=A0
Jay W1VD
----- Original Message -----
To: LF Group
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 4:13 P= M
Subject: Re: LF: EbNaut tonite


Jay, Rob, Markus, Stefan, Joe, LF


Jay, thanks again for the decode: congrats for your rx setup.
And thank you so much for trying, Rob.

Here, the TP2 reference signal (not sufficiently filtered) overshot so= metimes the quadrature divider (x4) causing that phase jumps. The problem i= s now fixed.

A new TX EbNaut session is scheduled for starting tomorrow evening.

All the best


73 de Riccardo IW4DXW







Il giorno Lun 21 Gen 2019, 13:20 jrusgrove@comcast.net <jrusgrove@comcast.net>= ha scritto:
Riccardo
=C2=A0
Corrected decode:
=C2=A0
0300 Rank 0 car Eb/N0=C2=A02.3 Eb/N0=C2=A01.4=C2=A0FBDECODE
=C2=A0
Jay W1VD
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 1/21/2019 6:53:39 AM
Subject: Re: LF: EbNaut tonite
Stefan, Riccardo & EbNaut-eers
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Stefan ... good copy throughout the night. Riccardo ... unfortunately = only one decode to report.=C2=A0Markus noted a frequency error ...=C2=A0cur= ious if propagation or=C2=A0NE0-M8T?
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
137545
=C2=A0
2200 Rank 0 car Eb/N0 9.5 Eb/N0 9.2 RADIO GAGA
2300 -
0000 Rank 0 car Eb/N0 9.2 Eb/N0 9.3 RADIO GAGA
0100 Rank 0 car Eb/N0=C2=A06.0 Eb/N0=C2=A06.0 RADIO GAGA
0200 Rank 0 car Eb/N0=C2=A05.3 Eb/N0=C2=A05.9 RADIO GAGA
0300 Rank 0 car Eb/N0=C2=A06.1 Eb/N0=C2=A06.8 RADIO GAGA
0400 Rank 0 car Eb/N0=C2=A011.3 Eb/N0=C2=A010.4 RADIO GAGA
0500 Rank 0 car Eb/N0=C2=A03.7 Eb/N0=C2=A04.6 RADIO GAGA
0600 Rank 0 car Eb/N0=C2=A010.6 Eb/N0=C2=A010.2 RADIO GAGA
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
137547
=C2=A0
0300 Rank 0 car Eb/N0=C2=A010.0 Eb/N0=C2=A0=C2=A0FBDECODE
=C2=A0
Jay W1VD
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 1/20/2019 12:48:34 PM
Subject: LF: EbNaut tonite
LF,

Tonite:

f =3D 137.545 kHz
Start time: 20.JAN.2019= =C2=A0 22:00:00.3 UTC (hourly, including 6 UTC)
Symbol period: 1 s
Ch= aracters: 10
CRC bits: 12
Coding 16K21A
Antenna current= : 4 A
Duration: 24:32 [mm:ss]


73, Stefan
=
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