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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: LF, EbNauters Rob has sent his wave file coming from the Spectrum Lab EbNaut recorder With the help of the linux programs vtwavex i have converted it in the vlfrx-tools native .vt file and i have attempted the decode. Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [2607:f8b0:4864:20:0:0:0:32e listed in] [list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (iz7slz.domenico[at]gmail.com) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 8044ff87f22777286b33afb193e0811f Subject: Re: LF: Ebnaut tonite from JN80 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e6b84205809cd903" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false --000000000000e6b84205809cd903 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LF, EbNauters Rob has sent his wave file coming from the Spectrum Lab EbNaut recorder With the help of the linux programs vtwavex i have converted it in the vlfrx-tools native .vt file and i have attempted the decode. Indeed the only possible decode is Riccardo's transmission of 2108-01-27_23:00 obtained with 0.4s of time offset initial reference phase 58.9 amplitude 7.760e-02 phase 0 0 0 0 0 found rank 0 ber 3.8095e-01 *Eb/N0 1.4 M* -1.078971028e+00 ph 0 0,0,0,0* [73]* carrier phase: 2.3 deg *carrier Eb/N0: 3.2 dB* carrier Es/N0: -11.53 dB carrier S/N: 13.73 dB in 496.0 uHz, -19.31 dB in 1Hz, -53.29 dB in 2.5kHz Then I have investigated on failed decodes on my frequency slot at that hour. Knowning the message 'IZ7SLZ' and using the signal analysis function of EbNaut I found (with +0.001 Hz of frequency offset): carrier phase: -113.4 *carrier Eb/N0: -7.2 dB* carrier S/N: 8.09 dB in 595.2 uHz, -24.16 dB in 1Hz, -58.14 dB in 2.5kHz Maybe >6 dB are necessary to pass my full callsign in 30 minute of transmission. Thanks again Rob for the attempt. 73, Domenico IZ7SLZ On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 at 15:09, Domenico IZ7SLZ wrote: > Rob, > that 'wave' file should be ok. > > Paul Nicholson includes the program 'vtwavex' in his vlfrx-tools that can > extract signals from a WAV file. > > Thanks > > Domenico IZ7SLZ > > Let > > On 28 Jan 2019 15:00, "Rob Renoud" wrote: > > Domenico, > > The single file that I saved for last night was the decimated FFT file > (.wav file) using the Spectrum Lab Wave Recorder. The file covers the > entire RX session starting at 2059 UTC and runs until I stopped recording > about 1030 UTC this morning (sample rate: 10.766602/sec, RX freq: 1000.00= 0 > Hz (137545.000 Hz RF center frequency), File Size: 3.77 MB). > > Will this file work for you? > > 73, > Rob > > > > > > On Jan 28, 2019, at 07:29, Domenico IZ7SLZ > wrote: > > Thanks dear friends Jay and Rob for the your efforts on trying to decode > my small signal. > > Is it possible to have from you the Spectrum Lab raw files with the info > needed to convert them (using DF6NM's program) in 'wave' format (i.e. > sample rate, FFT lenght, center frequency) or can you share the files > already converted in 'wave' format ? > I would like to attempt a decode using vlfrx-tools: with diagnostic tools > -f15 -f16 -M 'IZ7SLZ' i will look for the missing dB's. > Thanks in advance. > Domenico IZ7SLZ > > On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 at 13:18, Rob Renoud wrote: > >> Domenico and Riccardo, >> >> Riccardo: 1 Decode at 2300 UTC >> Rank 0; cEb/N0 3.2; Eb/N0 0.9; MSG 73, BER 38.7; Ref Phase 0,0,0,0 >> >> Domenico: Sorry, no decodes. >> >> 73, >> Rob >> >> On Jan 28, 2019, at 06:06, "jrusgrove@comcast.net" >> wrote: >> >> Domenico >> >> Sorry to report no decodes ;~( . >> >> Jay W1VD >> >> >> >> *----- Original Message -----* >> *From:* Domenico IZ7SLZ >> *Reply-To:* >> *To:* >> *Sent:* 1/27/2019 1:32:37 PM >> *Subject:* Re: LF: Ebnaut tonite from JN80 >> ------------------------------ >> Rob, Jay, LF >> >> Another attempt tonight. Same parameters (6 char, 3 s/sym, crc16, 8K19A) >> Qrq is 137545.2 Hz >> (The script is ok now!!) >> Every hour from 21.00 utc 'til 07 utc of tomortow) >> >> 73, Domenico IZ7SLZ >> >> On 27 Jan 2019 15:25, "Rob Renoud" wrote: >> >> Domenico, >> >> No decodes as you were outside of my receive range. >> >> 73, >> Rob >> >> On Jan 27, 2019, at 05:27, Domenico IZ7SLZ >> wrote: >> >> LF, >> my previous transmission's announcement was wrong. >> >> Since i have run an obsolete setup file, the transmissions succeeded but >> on 137540.0 Hz (instead of 137545.2 Hz) with 6 >> char, 3 s, 8K19A, CRC16. >> I hope that receiving attempts can be done anyway. Sorry for the trouble= . >> >> I will send now, via daytime propagation, an 'hope' message on 137540 Hz= , >> 38 characters 0.5 s/sym 8K19A, CRC16 >> at 10:30, 11:30, 12:30, 13:30. >> >> Finger crossed also for that situation ! >> >> 73, Domenico IZ7SLZ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 at 00:24, Domenico IZ7SLZ >> wrote: >> >>> Yes Markus, LF >>> >>> Confirm: 6 characters. >>> >>> Apologies for the clerical error and thanks Markus for the advice. >>> >>> 73, Dom IZ7SLZ >>> >>> On Sat, 26 Jan 2019, 22:49 Markus Vester >> >>>> Hi Domenico, >>>> >>>> 6 characters I would guess? >>>> >>>> 73, Markus >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- >>>> Von: Domenico IZ7SLZ >>>> An: rsgb_lf_group >>>> Verschickt: Sa, 26. Jan. 2019 19:55 >>>> Betreff: LF: Ebnaut tonite from JN80 >>>> >>>> LF, Ebnauteers >>>> >>>> An attempt to pass my complete call sign with EbNaut on 137545.2 Hz. >>>> >>>> 5 char, 3 s, 8K19A, CRC16, duration 28', every hour from 21.00 UT to >>>> 08.00 UT of tomorrow. >>>> 73, Domenico IZ7SLZ >>>> >>> >> > --000000000000e6b84205809cd903 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
LF, EbNauters
=

Rob has sent his wave file coming from the Spectrum Lab= EbNaut recorder

With the help of the linux progra= ms vtwavex i have converted it in the vlfrx-tools native .vt file and i hav= e attempted the decode.

Indeed the only possible d= ecode is Riccardo's transmission of 2108-01-27_23:00 obtained with 0.4s= of time offset

initial reference phase 58.9 amplitude 7.760e-02
phase= =C2=A0=C2=A0 0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0
found rank 0 ber 3.8095e-01 Eb/N0 1.4 M -1.0= 78971028e+00 ph 0 0,0,0,0 [73]
carrier phase: 2.3 deg
carri= er Eb/N0: 3.2 dB
carrier Es/N0: -11.53 dB
carrier S/N: 13.73 dB i= n 496.0 uHz, -19.31 dB in 1Hz, -53.29 dB in 2.5kHz
Then I have investigated on failed decodes on my frequency slot= at that hour.
Knowning the message 'IZ7SLZ' and using th= e signal analysis function of EbNaut I found (with +0.001 Hz of frequency o= ffset):

carrier phase: -113.4
carrier Eb/N0:= -7.2 dB
carrier S/N: 8.09 dB in 595.2 uHz, -24.16 dB in 1Hz, -58.14= dB in 2.5kHz

Maybe >6 dB=C2=A0 are necessa= ry to pass my full callsign in 30 minute of transmission.

Thanks again Rob for the attempt.

73, Dome= nico IZ7SLZ



<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Mon, 28 = Jan 2019 at 15:09, Domenico IZ7SLZ <iz7slz.domenico@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob,=C2=A0
that 'wave' file should be ok.

Paul Nicholson includes the program 'vtwavex' in his = vlfrx-tools that can extract signals from a WAV file.

Thanks=C2=A0

Domenico IZ7SLZ=C2=A0

Let

<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 28 Jan 2019 15:00, "Rob Renoud" <= k3rwr@md.metrocast.net> wrote:
Domeni= co,

The single file that I= saved for last night was the decimated FFT file (.wav file) using the Spec= trum Lab Wave Recorder.=C2=A0 The file covers the entire RX session startin= g at 2059 UTC and runs until I stopped recording about 1030 UTC this mornin= g (sample rate: 10.766602/sec, RX freq: 1000.000 Hz (137545.000 Hz RF cente= r frequency), File Size: 3.77 MB). =C2=A0 =C2=A0

=
Will this file work for you?
<= br>
73,
Rob





On Jan 28, 2019, at 07:29, Domenico= IZ7SLZ <iz7slz.domenico@gmail.com> wrote:
<= br>
T= hanks dear friends Jay and Rob for the your efforts on trying to decode my = small signal.

Is it possible to have from you the = Spectrum Lab raw files with the info needed to convert them (using DF6NM= 9;s program)=C2=A0 in 'wave' format (i.e. sample rate, FFT lenght, = center frequency) or can you share the files already converted in 'wave= ' format ?
I would like to attempt a decode using vlfrx-t= ools: with diagnostic tools -f15 -f16 -M 'IZ7SLZ' i will look for t= he missing dB's.
Thanks in advance.
Domenico I= Z7SLZ

On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 at 13:18, Rob Renoud <k3r= wr@md.metrocast.net> wrote:
Domenico and Riccardo,

R= iccardo: =C2=A01 Decode at 2300 UTC
Rank 0; cEb/N0 3.= 2; Eb/N0 0.9; MSG 73, BER 38.7; Ref Phase 0,0,0,0
Domenico: =C2=A0Sorry, no decodes.

73,
Rob

On Jan 28, 2019, at 06:06, "jrusgrove@comc= ast.net" <jrusgrove@comcast.net> wrote:
Domenico
=C2=A0
Sorry to report no decodes ;~( .
=C2=A0
Jay W1VD
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
----- Original Message -----
From: Domenico IZ7SLZ <iz7slz.domenico@gma= il.com>
Sent: 1/27/2019 1:32:37 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Ebnaut tonite from JN80
Rob, Jay, LF

Another attempt tonight. Same parameters (6 char, 3 s/sym, crc16, 8K19= A)
Qrq is 137545.2 Hz=C2=A0
(The script is ok now!!)
Every hour from 21.00 utc 'til 07 utc of tomortow)

73, Domenico IZ7SLZ=C2=A0

On 27 Jan 2019 15:25, "Rob Renoud" <= ;k3rwr@md.metrocast.net> wrote:
Domenico,

No decodes as you were outside of my receive range.

73,
Rob

On Jan 27, 2019, at 05:27, Domenico IZ7SLZ <iz7slz.domenico@gmail.com> wrote:

LF,
my previous=C2=A0 transmission's announcement was wrong.

Since i have run an obsolete setup file, the transmissions succeeded b= ut on 137540.0 Hz=C2=A0 (instead of 137545.2 Hz) with 6
char, 3 s, 8K19A, CRC16.
I hope that receiving attempts can be do= ne anyway. Sorry for the trouble.

I will send now, via daytime propagation, an 'hope' message on= 137540 Hz, 38 characters 0.5 s/sym 8K19A, CRC16
at 10:30, 11:30, 12:30, 13:30.

Finger crossed also for that situation !

73, Domenico IZ7SLZ







On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 at 00:24, Domenico IZ7SLZ <iz7slz.domenico@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes Markus, LF

Confirm: 6 characters.

Apologies for the clerical error and thanks Markus for the advice.

73, Dom IZ7SLZ

On Sat, 26 Jan 2019, 22:49 Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com wrote:
Hi Domenico,

6 characters I would guess?

73, Markus

-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: Domenico IZ7SLZ &l= t;iz7slz.domenico@gmail.com>=
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_l= f_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Sa, 26. Jan. 2019 19:55
Be= treff: LF: Ebnaut tonite from JN80

LF, Ebnauteers

An attempt to pass my complete call sign with EbNaut on 137545.2 Hz.

5 char, 3 s, 8K19A, CRC16, duration 28', every hour from 21.00 UT = to 08.00 UT of tomorrow.
73, Domenico IZ7SLZ


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