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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Stefan, sorry for the late report. results of decoding for your EbNaut signal in JN80nu are at https://qsl.net/iz7slz/EBNAUT/DECODED.TXT At the address: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LIiyJlDrCHSl-nyMT4HwNf8_Cmv15l5z/view?usp=sharing i have uploaded a zipped folder with the Markus's plot of the eight periods. First two transmissions [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [2607:f8b0:4864:20:0:0:0:22c listed in] [list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (iz7slz.domenico[at]gmail.com) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: a3a1dfa33e290fbc5bf9437ae2cb4207 Subject: Re: LF: Re: EbNaut tonite Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004ca793057f9c6c2c" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false --0000000000004ca793057f9c6c2c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefan, sorry for the late report. results of decoding for your EbNaut signal in JN80nu are at https://qsl.net/iz7slz/EBNAUT/DECODED.TXT At the address: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LIiyJlDrCHSl-nyMT4HwNf8_Cmv15l5z/view?usp= =3Dsharing i have uploaded a zipped folder with the Markus's plot of the eight periods. First two transmissions seems to be affected by fading. 73, Domenico IZ7SLZ On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 14:20, DK7FC wrote: > Hello Rob and Jay, > > Many thanks for the reports and all the details. Jay, did you miss the 22 > UTC transmission or did it not decode? > Interesting to see the phase plots. It is expected that the phase is less > stable when the band opens. In the last transmission, the Eb/N0 is not hi= gh > enough to see the phase pattern. > I wonder if the traces become more evident if 4K19 is used. > > What happens when a solar event happens during the transmission time? Doe= s > it change the phase or just the D layer attenuation? > Maybe we can repeat the experiment, using 4K19A. Of course a carrier coul= d > be used too, but i like to 'play' with EbNaut. > > So, tonite: > > > > > > > > > > > > *f =3D 137.545 kHz Start time: 16.JAN.2019 22:00:00.3 UTC Symbol period:= 8 > s Characters: 4 CRC bits: 16 Coding 4K19A Antenna current: 4 A Duration: > 30:56 [mm:ss] * 73, Stefan > > > Am 16.01.2019 12:29, schrieb Rob Renoud: > > Stefan, > > Late start but 7 successful decodes. Have not gotten to phase plots yet.= .. > > *UTC* *Rank* *C Eb/N0* *Eb/N0* *MSG* *Ref Phase* > 0100 0 5.6 1.6 2019 0,-30,0 30 > 0200 0 6.9 0.4 2019 60,30 30 0 > 0300 0 9.9 5.8 2019 90,60,60,0 > 0400 0 11.2 8.8 2019 180,180,150,150 > 0500 0 6.3 2.7 2019 0,-30,-30,-60 > > 73, > Rob =E2=80=93 K3RWR > > > *From:* DK7FC > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 15, 2019 9:33 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: LF: Re: EbNaut tonite > > LF, > > Today, the messages will be transmitted as announced, starting 22 UTC > > 73, Stefan > > Am 14.01.2019 22:16, schrieb DK7FC: > > PS: Repeatinh hourly, until including 6 UTC. > > Am 14.01.2019 22:13, schrieb DK7FC: > > Hi LF, > > Just a short EbNaut message tonite. I'm interested to see the phase > changes on a long path. Markus's showrawsyms does a good job there, as lo= ng > as 8K19A is used. A shorter message should also help to build up a clear > trace. > So let's try an unusual short message: > > > > > > > > > *f =3D 137.545 kHz Start time: 14.JAN.2019 22:00:00.3 UTC Symbol period:= 4 > s Characters: 4 CRC bits: 16 Coding 8K19A Antenna current: 4 A Duration: > 30:56 [mm:ss]* > > Reports, including phase plots, welcome :-) > > 73, Stefan > > --0000000000004ca793057f9c6c2c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Stefan,
s= orry for the late report.


results of decoding for your EbNaut sign= al in JN80nu are at https://qsl.net/iz7slz/EBNAUT/DECODED.TXT
At the address:
i have uploaded a zipped folder with= the Markus's plot of the eight periods. First two transmissions seems = to be affected by fading.

73, Domenico IZ7SLZ

On= Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 14:20, DK7FC <selberdenken@posteo.de> wrote:
=20
Hello Rob and Jay,

Many thanks for the reports and all the details. Jay, did you miss the 22 UTC transmission or did it not decode?
Interesting to see the phase plots. It is expected that the phase is less stable when the band opens. In the last transmission, the Eb/N0 is not high enough to see the phase pattern.
I wonder if the traces become more evident if 4K19 is used.

What happens when a solar event happens during the transmission time? Does it change the phase or just the D layer attenuation?
Maybe we can repeat the experiment, using 4K19A. Of course a carrier could be used too, but i like to 'play' with EbNaut.

So, tonite:

f =3D 137.545 kHz
Start time: 16.JAN.2019=C2=A0 22:00:00.3 UTC
Symbol period: 8 s
Characters: 4
CRC bits: 16
Coding 4K19A
Antenna current: 4 A
Duration: 30:56 [mm:ss]


=C2=A073, Stefan


Am 16.01.2019 12:29, schrieb Rob Renoud:
=20
Stefan,
=C2=A0
Late start but 7 successful decodes.=C2=A0 Have not gotten to phase plots yet...
=C2=A0
UTC Rank C Eb/N0 Eb/N0 MSG Ref Phase
0100 0 5.6 1.6 2019 0,-30,0 30
0200 0 6.9 0.4 2019 60,30 30 0
0300 0 9.9 5.8 2019 90,60,60,0
0400 0 11.2 8.8 2019 180,180,150,150
0500 0 6.3 2.7 2019 0,-30,-30,-60
=C2=A0
73,
Rob =E2=80=93 K3RWR
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
From: DK7FC
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: EbNaut tonite
=C2=A0
LF,

Today, the messages will be transmitted as announced, starting 22 UTC

73, Stefan

Am 14.01.2019 22:16, schrieb DK7FC:
PS: Repeatinh hourly, until including 6 UTC.

Am 14.01.2019 22:13, schrieb DK7FC:
Hi LF,

Just a short EbNaut message tonite. I'm interested to see the phase changes on a long path. Markus's showrawsyms does a good job there, as long as 8K19A is used. A shorter message should also help to build up a clear trace.
So let's try an unusual short message:

f =3D 137.545 kHz
Start time: 14.JAN.2019=C2=A0 22:00:00.3 UTC
Symbol period: 4 s
Characters: 4
CRC bits: 16
Coding 8K19A
Antenna current: 4 A
Duration: 30:56 [mm:ss]

Reports, including phase plots, welcome :-)

73, Stefan
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