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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: >so far I seem to be the only spotter. Correction! Forgot to delete my callsign in the database query. 73 Clemens DL4RAJ 2019-01-25 17:22 DK7FC 0.475682 -23 0 JN49ik 0.01 PA3ABK JO21it 386 315 1 2019-01-25 17:22 DK7FC 0.475680 -22 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL6II JO30nx 205 327 1 2019-01-25 17:22 DK7FC 0.475685 -25 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [212.227.15.19 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [212.227.15.19 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (cpaul[at]gmx.net) X-Scan-Signature: 6bb858db23df2b82c4f5a8cb512b45b1 Subject: LF: RE: RE: TXing WSPR/MF on an indoor loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by klubnl.pl id x0PHdTSb031013 >so far I seem to be the only spotter. Correction! Forgot to delete my callsign in the database query. 73 Clemens DL4RAJ 2019-01-25 17:22 DK7FC 0.475682 -23 0 JN49ik 0.01 PA3ABK JO21it 386 315 1 2019-01-25 17:22 DK7FC 0.475680 -22 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL6II JO30nx 205 327 1 2019-01-25 17:22 DK7FC 0.475685 -25 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL/PA0EHG JO32sq 370 348 1 2019-01-25 17:04 DK7FC 0.475683 -24 0 JN49ik 0.01 LA3EQ JO28xj 1012 351 2 2019-01-25 17:04 DK7FC 0.475682 -12 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL2SBA JN48op 95 157 2 2019-01-25 16:58 DK7FC 0.475682 -29 0 JN49ik 0.01 5Q9T JO65eg 695 20 1 2019-01-25 16:52 DK7FC 0.475681 -20 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL1KAI JO42vj 338 13 2 2019-01-25 16:34 DK7FC 0.475654 -23 0 JN49ik 0.01 DF2IC JN49jo 19 18 9 2019-01-25 16:10 DK7FC 0.475682 -28 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL4RAJ/2 JN68kj 326 109 2 2019-01-25 16:10 DK7FC 0.475683 -27 0 JN49ik 0.01 IK1HSS JN35tb 493 190 1 2019-01-25 16:10 DK7FC 0.475682 -26 0 JN49ik 0.01 DF5FH JO42um 350 11 3 2019-01-25 15:52 DK7FC 0.475682 -23 0 JN49ik 0.01 DK6XY JO53jv 516 15 8 2019-01-25 15:46 DK7FC 0.475683 -29 1 JN49ik 0.01 DH5RAE JN68qv 345 98 1 2019-01-25 15:40 DK7FC 0.475683 -25 0 JN49ik 0.01 PA0O JO33hg 450 342 6 2019-01-25 15:22 DK7FC 0.475683 -26 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL0AO JN59vk 223 89 4 2019-01-25 14:40 DK7FC 0.475683 -21 0 JN49ik 0.01 DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 24 2019-01-25 13:42 DK7FC 0.475682 -1 0 JN49ik 1 DJ7KL JN48fu 67 196 42 2019-01-25 13:42 DK7FC 0.475683 +27 0 JN49ik 1 DK7FC/P JN49ik 0 0 74 2019-01-25 13:42 DK7FC 0.475683 0 0 JN49ik 1 DK2DB JN48fw 58 198 40 2019-01-25 13:42 DK7FC 0.475682 -16 0 JN49ik 1 DL3GAK JN48xe 166 146 35 2019-01-25 13:42 DK7FC 0.475682 -4 0 JN49ik 1 DL0LU JN49cm 37 285 40 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Clemens Paul >Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 6:07 PM >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: LF: RE: TXing WSPR/MF on an indoor loop > >Hi Stefan, > >so far I seem to be the only spotter. >73 >Clemens >DL4RAJ > >2019-01-25 16:58 DK7FC 0.475683 -23 0 JN49ik 0.01 > DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 > 2019-01-25 16:52 DK7FC 0.475683 -21 0 JN49ik 0.01 > DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 > 2019-01-25 16:46 DK7FC 0.475683 -24 0 JN49ik 0.01 > DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 > 2019-01-25 16:40 DK7FC 0.475683 -25 0 JN49ik 0.01 > DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 > 2019-01-25 16:34 DK7FC 0.475683 -18 0 JN49ik 0.01 > DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 > 2019-01-25 16:28 DK7FC 0.475683 -25 0 JN49ik 0.01 > DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 > 2019-01-25 16:22 DK7FC 0.475683 -21 0 JN49ik 0.01 > DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 > 2019-01-25 16:16 DK7FC 0.475683 -21 0 JN49ik 0.01 > DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 > 2019-01-25 16:10 DK7FC 0.475683 -18 0 JN49ik 0.01 > DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 > 2019-01-25 16:04 DK7FC 0.475683 -21 0 JN49ik 0.01 > DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 > 2019-01-25 15:52 DK7FC 0.475683 -20 0 JN49ik 0.01 > DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 > 2019-01-25 15:46 DK7FC 0.475683 -20 0 JN49ik 0.01 > DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 > 2019-01-25 15:40 DK7FC 0.475683 -20 0 JN49ik 0.01 > DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 > 2019-01-25 15:34 DK7FC 0.475683 -19 0 JN49ik 0.01 > DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 > 2019-01-25 15:28 DK7FC 0.475683 -23 0 JN49ik 0.01 > DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 > 2019-01-25 15:04 DK7FC 0.475683 -23 0 JN49ik 0.01 > DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 > 2019-01-25 14:58 DK7FC 0.475683 -23 0 JN49ik 0.01 > DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 > 2019-01-25 14:52 DK7FC 0.475683 -24 0 JN49ik 0.01 > DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 > 2019-01-25 14:46 DK7FC 0.475683 -22 0 JN49ik 0.01 > DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 > 2019-01-25 14:40 DK7FC 0.475683 -21 0 JN49ik 0.01 > DL4RAJ JN68kj 326 109 > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of DK7FC >>Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 3:23 PM >>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>Subject: LF: TXing WSPR/MF on an indoor loop >> >>Hi MF, >> >>A few days ago i took some RF litz wire and built a loop that is now >>hanging on the wall inside my home, just 1m besides the bed >>:-) (no XYL >>here spoiling the fun). The loop is beaming to about 150/330 deg. >> >>After playing some days on 160m (an unusual high frequency, >>witch feels >>very strange. And the band is full of unknown callsigns!!) i did now >>move down to more or less low frequencies, the 630m band! >> >>About 10 nF is needed to series resonate the loop. It has >>about 2m x 2m >>of size. The antenna current is not stable because the WIMA FKP-1 >>capacitor becomes warm during the 2 minute WSPR sequence. But the >>maximum current in the loop is 14 A. That explains why the >cap becomes >>warm. A small parallel variable capacitor tunes to resonance. It is >>tuned so that the upheating capacitor runs into the resonance >point in >>the middle of the WSPR sequence, then it runs out of the resonance by >>upheating further. It can cool down during the following quiet >>periods.. >> >>14A into a 4 square meter loop at 475.7 kHz, how much ERP is >that? The >>PA consumes about 3.5 A at 13.8V, i.e. about 50 W. >> >>The system will run over the weekend, even during daylight. >The signal >>generator is a Raspi which will have no internet connectivity >from now >>on, so let's hope the time offset stays inside the accepted range for >>this experiment. >> >>What will the best distance be? So far the band is closed but i'm >>optimistic to crack the 1000 km distance with this QRP setup. >> >>73, Stefan >> >> >>--- >>Diese E-Mail wurde von AVG auf Viren geprüft. >>http://www.avg.com >> > >