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Content preview: Thanks Mal ;-) Don't worry, i'll be back with a real signal soon :-) 73, Stefan Am 25.01.2019 16:33, schrieb mal hamilton: > DK7FC QRP- how is this possible ---is the world coming to an > end!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > g3kev > > > Content analysis details: (-2.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [185.67.36.66 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: c0336009bd9bab526ca27d297ea7579a Subject: Re: LF: TXing WSPR/MF on an indoor loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Thanks Mal ;-) Don't worry, i'll be back with a real signal soon :-) 73, Stefan Am 25.01.2019 16:33, schrieb mal hamilton: > DK7FC QRP- how is this possible ---is the world coming to an > end!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > g3kev > > > -----Original Message----- From: DK7FC > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 2:23 PM > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: TXing WSPR/MF on an indoor loop > > Hi MF, > > A few days ago i took some RF litz wire and built a loop that is now > hanging on the wall inside my home, just 1m besides the bed :-) (no XYL > here spoiling the fun). The loop is beaming to about 150/330 deg. > > After playing some days on 160m (an unusual high frequency, witch feels > very strange. And the band is full of unknown callsigns!!) i did now > move down to more or less low frequencies, the 630m band! > > About 10 nF is needed to series resonate the loop. It has about 2m x 2m > of size. The antenna current is not stable because the WIMA FKP-1 > capacitor becomes warm during the 2 minute WSPR sequence. But the > maximum current in the loop is 14 A. That explains why the cap becomes > warm. A small parallel variable capacitor tunes to resonance. It is > tuned so that the upheating capacitor runs into the resonance point in > the middle of the WSPR sequence, then it runs out of the resonance by > upheating further. It can cool down during the following quiet periods.. > > 14A into a 4 square meter loop at 475.7 kHz, how much ERP is that? The > PA consumes about 3.5 A at 13.8V, i.e. about 50 W. > > The system will run over the weekend, even during daylight. The signal > generator is a Raspi which will have no internet connectivity from now > on, so let's hope the time offset stays inside the accepted range for > this experiment. > > What will the best distance be? So far the band is closed but i'm > optimistic to crack the 1000 km distance with this QRP setup. > > 73, Stefan >