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Content preview: Thanks Luis hi well everyone takes a more comfortable idea for and not to ruin the PCB to remove SMD you have to connect all useful files on the DIP 14 ok when you can keep us informed of the result t [...] Content analysis details: (1.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [2a00:1450:4864:20:0:0:0:22c listed in] [list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (ik1hgi.qrss[at]gmail.com) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 AC_DIV_BONANZA RAW: Too many divs in a row... spammy template 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid 1.0 FREEMAIL_REPLY From and body contain different freemails X-Scan-Signature: 1f4ea2c5aeaef6582bd9560765cc048b Subject: Re: LF: RV: EbNaut modulator for G0MRF D class PA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007b5b91057cd246c3" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false --0000000000007b5b91057cd246c3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Luis hi well everyone takes a more comfortable idea for and not to ruin the PCB to remove SMD you have to connect all useful files on the DIP 14 ok when you can keep us informed of the result thanks Luis soon 73 Antonio IK1HGI Grazie Luis hi bene ognuno prende una idea piu comoda per la e di non rovinare il PCB togliere SMD devi collegare tutti file utili sul DIP 14 ok quando puoi tienici informato del risultato grazie Luis a presto 73 Antonio IK1HGI Il giorno mer 12 dic 2018 alle ore 13:09 VIGILANT Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez < luis@vigilant.es> ha scritto: > Ciao Antonio > > > > This PCB is mounted in a DIP14 shocket and *REPLACES *the original DIP14 > 4013 in the PA. Please review the picture carefully > > So, just need to remove the original DIP14 4013 and plug the module. > That=E2=80=99s all > > > > The only advantage over your approach is extreme simplicity. Schematic is > the same > > One can also undo the mod and place the DIP14 4013 if finally find EbNaut > is not his cup of tea > > > > 73 de Luis > > EA5DOM > > > > *De:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *En no**mbre de *ik1hgi Qrss Qrpp > *Enviado el:* mi=C3=A9rcoles, 12 de diciembre de 2018 12:43 > *Para:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Asunto:* Re: LF: RV: EbNaut modulator for G0MRF D class PA > > > > hello Luis I saw your project to use the PA of G0MRF Amplifier I have a > doubt how do you use your scheme from the DIP 4013 if you use a SMD 4013 = on > the David G0MRF amp? the thing can be on another amplifier if it uses > integrated DIP. > > > > I've already informed you the experimented for two years thanks Riccardo > IW4DXW gave this idea to transmit with two small modular one for modutale > in TX the other GPS uses 4070 for modular amplifier G0MRF until today no > problem, on my pay I put the whole system for all who uses David G0MRF > amplifier > > https://www.qsl.net/ik1hgi/472khz/modulatore.htm > https://www.qsl.net/ik1hgi/472khz/buffer-gps.htm > > 73 Antonio IK1HGI > > > > ciao Luis ho visto il tuo progetto per utilizzare il PA di G0MRF > Amplificatore ho un dubbio come fa autilizzare dal tuo schema il DIP 4013 > se utilizza un SMD 4013 sul amplificatiore David G0MRF? la cosa puo esser= e > su altro amplificatore se utilizza integrato DIP. > > > > Ti informo gi=C3=A0 lo sperimentato da due anni grazie Riccardo IW4DXW ha= dato > questo idea di trasmettere con due piccoli modulare uno per modutale in T= X > il GPS altro usa 4070 per modulare amplificatore G0MRF fino oggi nesun > problema, sulle mie pagime ho messo tutto il sistema per tutti chi utiliz= a > amplificatore di Davide G0MRF > > https://www.qsl.net/ik1hgi/472khz/modulatore.htm > https://www.qsl.net/ik1hgi/472khz/buffer-gps.htm > > > > > 73 Antonio IK1HGI > > > > Il giorno mer 12 dic 2018 alle ore 09:28 VIGILANT Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez < > luis@vigilant.es> ha scritto: > > Hi EbNaut > > > > I have squized the XOR gates needed to modulate BPSK for EbNaut > transmissions using the G0MRF PA > > > > The final result is a 4013 compatible plugin module. So, you only need to > remove the 14Pin DIP 4013 chip and plug the > > module in the shocket. For modulation a two pin input connector can be > wired to any USB/COM converter even > > using 3V3 levels. The Windows EbNaut Tx program will manage the DTR+DSR > outputs for this COM port. It uses an > > optoisolator. You can resize the series resistor in the input side to > adapt for higer voltage drive levels > > > > To drive the PA, any cheap NEO6 GPS can be programmed to output the right > 2X frequency in LF or MF. The 3V3 can > > be the only issue and you need a simple transistor to increase levels to > 5V or more > > > > The PCB is single side, no drills. Just a wire jump is needed. SMD > components are used but I find this easier than drilling > > and using pass trought components. This links to a p=C3=ACcture of the mo= dule > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/brak1h0j0naqe6y/IMG_20181211_140305_557.jpg?dl= =3D0 > > > > 73 de Luis > > EA5DOM > > > > > -- > > Salve Antonio ik1hgi > > http://www.qsl.net/ik1hgi/472khz/gps-x.htm > > > > http://www.qsl.net/ik1hgi/472-50.htm > > http://www.qsl.net/ik1hgi/qrp/index.htm > > http://www.qsl.net/ik1hgi/eqsl.html > > > > ik1hgi.qrss@gmail.com > ik1hgi.atv@gmail.com > > Antonio ik1hgi 73 > > RISERVATEZZA (ai sensi D.Lgs n. 196/03) > --=20 Salve Antonio ik1hgi http://www.qsl.net/ik1hgi/472khz/gps-x.htm http://www.qsl.net/ik1hgi/472-50.htm http://www.qsl.net/ik1hgi/qrp/index.htm http://www.qsl.net/ik1hgi/eqsl.html ik1hgi.qrss@gmail.com ik1hgi.atv@gmail.com Antonio ik1hgi 73 RISERVATEZZA (ai sensi D.Lgs n. 196/03) --0000000000007b5b91057cd246c3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Luis hi well ever= yone takes a more comfortable idea for and not to ruin the PCB to remove SM= D you have to connect all useful files on the DIP 14 ok when you can keep u= s informed of the result thanks Luis soon
73 Antonio IK1HGI

Grazie Luis hi bene ognuno prende una i= dea piu comoda per la e di non rovinare il PCB togliere SMD devi collegare = tutti file utili sul DIP 14 ok quando puoi tienici informato del risultato = grazie Luis a presto
73 Antonio IK1HGI

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Il giorno mer 12 dic 2018 alle o= re 13:09 VIGILANT Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez <luis@vigilant.es> ha scritto:

Ciao Antonio

=C2=A0

This PCB is mounted in a DIP1= 4 shocket and REPLACES the original DIP14 4013 in the PA. Please review the pictur= e carefully

So, just need to remove the o= riginal DIP14 4013 and plug the module. That=E2=80=99s all

=C2=A0

The only advantage over your = approach is extreme simplicity. Schematic is the same<= /p>

One can also undo the mod and= place the DIP14 4013 if finally find EbNaut is not his cup of tea

=C2=A0

73 de Luis

EA5DOM

=C2=A0

De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de ik= 1hgi Qrss Qrpp
Enviado el: mi=C3=A9rcoles, 12 de diciembre de 2018 12:43
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: Re: LF: RV: EbNaut modulator for G0MRF D class PA<= /u>

=C2=A0

hello Luis I saw your project to use the PA of G0MRF= Amplifier I have a doubt how do you use your scheme from the DIP 4013 if y= ou use a SMD 4013 on the David G0MRF amp? the thing can be on another ampli= fier if it uses integrated DIP.

=C2=A0

I've already informed you the experimented for t= wo years thanks Riccardo IW4DXW gave this idea to transmit with two small m= odular one for modutale in TX the other GPS uses 4070 for modular amplifier= G0MRF until today no problem, on my pay I put the whole system for all who uses David G0MRF amplifier

73 Antonio IK1HGI

=C2=A0

ciao Luis ho visto il tuo progetto per utilizzare il= PA di G0MRF Amplificatore ho un dubbio come fa autilizzare dal tuo schema = il DIP 4013 se utilizza un SMD 4013 sul amplificatiore David G0MRF? la cosa= puo essere su altro amplificatore se utilizza integrato DIP.

=C2=A0

Ti informo gi=C3=A0 lo sperimentato da due anni graz= ie Riccardo IW4DXW ha dato questo idea di trasmettere con due piccoli modul= are uno per modutale in TX il GPS altro usa 4070 per modulare amplificatore= G0MRF fino oggi nesun problema, sulle mie pagime ho messo tutto il sistema per tutti chi utiliza amplificatore d= i Davide G0MRF=C2=A0=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Il giorno mer 12 dic 2018 alle ore 09:28 VIGILANT Lu= is Fern=C3=A1ndez <luis@vigilant.es> ha scritto:

Hi EbNaut<= /p>

=C2=A0

I have squized the XOR gates ne= eded to modulate BPSK for EbNaut transmissions using the G0MRF PA=

=C2=A0

The final result is a 4013 comp= atible plugin module. So, you only need to remove the 14Pin DIP 4013 chip a= nd plug the

module in the shocket. For modu= lation a two pin input connector can be wired to any USB/COM converter even=

using 3V3 levels. The Windows E= bNaut Tx program will manage the DTR+DSR outputs for this COM port. It uses= an

optoisolator. You can resize th= e series resistor in the input side to adapt for higer voltage drive levels=

=C2=A0

To drive the PA, any cheap NEO6= GPS can be programmed to output the right 2X frequency in LF or MF. The 3V= 3 can

be the only issue and you need = a simple transistor to increase levels to 5V or more

=C2=A0

The PCB is single side, no dril= ls. Just a wire jump is needed. SMD components are used but I find this eas= ier than drilling

and using pass trought componen= ts. This links to a p=C3=ACcture of the mo= dule

= https://www.dropbox.com/s/brak1h0j0naqe6y/I= MG_20181211_140305_557.jpg?dl=3D0

=C2=A0

73 de Luis=

EA5DOM


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