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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Rob Within a couple Hz. Maybe Marcus could suggest clear frequencies on the EU end. Jay W1VD ----- Original Message ----- From: Rob Renoud To: Wednesday, December 05, 2018 2:30 PM Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA - Opera32 detections Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:40 listed in] [list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (jrusgrove[at]comcast.net) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 25586c7917467b5c110472bf48f6f4f3 Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA - Opera32 detections Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0059_01D48CC2.5FB309A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.7 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01D48CC2.5FB309A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rob Within a couple Hz. Maybe Marcus could suggest clear frequencies on the = EU end. Jay W1VD=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rob Renoud=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2018 2:30 PM Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA - Opera32 detections Jay, What separation would you suggest? I can go anywhere with 1 mHz step = size from the HP-3325 driver. 73, Rob On Dec 5, 2018, at 09:05, "jrusgrove@comcast.net" = wrote: Rob / Joe Any chance you guys could cozy up within a couple Hz of each other = when running EbNaut? Jay W1VD =20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Rob Renoud Reply-To: To: Sent: 12/4/2018 6:11:55 PM Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA - Opera32 detections -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - Hi Joe and Markus, It would be fun putting a pair of EbNaut beacons on 2200M from = North America later this week if there are no objections. If you use = 137477, Joe, I=E2=80=99ll be glad to run on 137490. My TX is a Hafler P3000 at 250 watts to a top loaded vertical (14m = vertical, 141m top loading) with a HP3325 driver employing phase = modulation. 73, Rob - K3RWR Hollywood, MD On Dec 4, 2018, at 16:03, Markus Vester = wrote: Hi Joe, thanks for your fine signals, both on the "77"ies on LF, as well = as perfectly persistent on VLF 8270.0075 Hz. No objections from this end toward EbNaut in the opds band. For = us it's comfortable to reuse an already running SpecLab instance with = data Export. If you decide for a relatively short message and simple = coding, my grabber PC is capable of running an autodecoder instance. = Spot on 137500 is not good as there are carriers from Russian Loran (all = multiples of 6.25 Hz), and it can also be prone to intermodulation from = 60 + 77.5 kHz time signals. Better stick to your 137477 "home" QRG, or = perhaps go to one of the unofficial EbNaut gathering spots, e.g. 137490. Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- Von: jcraig An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Di, 4. Dez 2018 17:33 Betreff: Re: LF: VO1NA - Opera32 detections Thanks Bernd and Stefan. Thanks also to Markus for his OPDS work and web site. The TX is a 50W class E feeding the 100x20m rotated L. The Decca = PA is=20 taking some time off, following more charred wood and fused = halyards...=20 quite alarming! An XOR BPSK modulator module is QRV for some EbNaut. Is there = any=20 objection to using 137.5 kHz to send an EbNaut message later = this week? 73 Joe On Tue, 4 Dec 2018, DK7FC wrote: > ...and a few from here too: > > 2018-12-04 07:00:00 VO1NA 4421km 137477.000Hz 2mHz -40.5dBOp = 93% 19.3dB > 2018-12-04 06:00:00 VO1NA 4421km 137477.000Hz 2mHz -37.2dBOp = 93% 19.3dB > 2018-12-04 05:00:00 VO1NA 4421km 137477.000Hz 2mHz -34.3dBOp = 93% 19.8dB > 2018-12-04 04:00:00 VO1NA 4421km 137477.000Hz 4mHz -39.5dBOp = 93% 16.8dB > 2018-12-04 03:00:00 VO1NA 4421km 137477.000Hz 2mHz -34.3dBOp = 93% 19.8dB > 2018-12-04 02:00:00 VO1NA 4421km 137477.000Hz 2mHz -33.3dBOp = 93% 19.1dB > 2018-12-04 01:00:02 VO1NA 4421km 137477.000Hz 2mHz -32.4dBOp = 83% 19.6dB > 2018-12-04 00:00:00 VO1NA 4421km 137476.999Hz 3mHz -39.3dBOp = 93% 18.9dB > 2018-12-03 23:00:02 VO1NA 4421km 137477.000Hz 2mHz -36.3dBOp = 83% 18.2dB > 2018-12-03 21:00:00 VO1NA 4421km 137477.000Hz 2mHz -42.7dBOp = 93% 18.4dB > 2018-12-03 18:03:56 IK1HGI 449km 137480.000Hz 2mHz -41.2dBOp = 81% 17.9dB > 2018-12-03 17:29:15 IK1HGI 449km 137480.000Hz 4mHz -41.4dBOp = 96% 19.2dB > 2018-12-03 16:54:35 IK1HGI 449km 137480.000Hz 4mHz -39.5dBOp = 97% 19.1dB > 2018-12-03 15:09:40 IK1HGI 449km 137480.000Hz 2mHz -35.2dBOp = 94% 20.7dB > 2018-12-03 10:08:36 IK1HGI 449km 137480.000Hz 3mHz -43.9dBOp = 98% 15.2dB > 2018-12-03 03:00:02 VO1NA 4421km 137477.000Hz 2mHz -42.6dBOp = 52% 15.7dB > 2018-12-03 02:00:02 VO1NA 4421km 137477.000Hz 2mHz -35.5dBOp = 52% 18.3dB > 2018-12-03 01:00:00 VO1NA 4421km 137477.000Hz 4mHz -41.4dBOp = 93% 18.0dB > > 73, Stefan > > > Am 04.12.2018 08:27, schrieb Bernhard Wiesgickl: >> Hello all, >>=20 >> many detections of VO1NA the last nights at DL0AO: >> 2018-12-04 07:00:03 VO1NA 4606km 137477.000Hz 2mHz = -41.6dBOp 94%=20 >> 17.0dB >> 2018-12-04 06:00:01 VO1NA 4606km 137477.000Hz 2mHz = -32.0dBOp 82%=20 >> 18.3dB >> 2018-12-04 05:00:03 VO1NA 4606km 137477.000Hz 2mHz = -34.4dBOp 94%=20 >> 19.2dB >> 2018-12-04 04:00:03 VO1NA 4606km 137477.000Hz 3mHz = -46.5dBOp 94%=20 >> 16.3dB >> 2018-12-04 03:00:03 VO1NA 4606km 137477.000Hz 3mHz = -37.3dBOp 94%=20 >> 18.2dB >> 2018-12-04 02:00:03 VO1NA 4606km 137477.000Hz 3mHz = -40.5dBOp 94%=20 >> 18.2dB >> 2018-12-04 01:00:03 VO1NA 4606km 137477.000Hz 2mHz = -38.2dBOp 94%=20 >> 18.8dB >> 2018-12-04 00:00:03 VO1NA 4606km 137477.000Hz 2mHz = -40.1dBOp 94%=20 >> 18.6dB >> 2018-12-03 22:00:01 VO1NA 4606km 137477.000Hz 4mHz = -43.0dBOp 94%=20 >> 16.1dB >> 2018-12-03 21:00:03 VO1NA 4606km 137477.000Hz 3mHz = -43.4dBOp 64%=20 >> 16.5dB >>=20 >> Also nice visible QRSS-Signals during the local morning = hours. >>=20 >> https://lf.u01.de/ >>=20 >> Bernd, DF9RB >>=20 >>=20 >> >>=20 > > ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01D48CC2.5FB309A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Rob
 
Within a couple Hz. Maybe Marcus = could suggest=20 clear frequencies on the EU end.
 
Jay W1VD 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Rob=20 Renoud
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, = 2018 2:30=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA - = Opera32=20 detections

Jay,

What separation would you suggest?  I can go = anywhere with 1=20 mHz step size from the HP-3325 driver.

73,
Rob

On Dec 5, 2018, at 09:05, "jrusgrove@comcast.net" = <jrusgrove@comcast.net>=20 wrote:

Rob / Joe
 
Any chance you guys could cozy up within a couple Hz of = each other=20 when running EbNaut?
 
Jay W1VD  
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Renoud <k3rwr@md.metrocast.net>
Reply-To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= >
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= >
Sent: 12/4/2018 6:11:55 PM
Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA - Opera32 detections
Hi Joe and Markus,

It would be fun putting a pair of EbNaut beacons on = 2200M=20 from North America later this week if there are no objections. =  If=20 you use 137477, Joe, I=E2=80=99ll be glad to run on 137490.

My TX is a Hafler P3000 at 250 watts to a top = loaded vertical=20 (14m vertical, 141m top loading) with a HP3325 driver employing = phase=20 modulation.

73,
Rob - K3RWR
Hollywood, MD


On Dec 4, 2018, at 16:03, Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com>=20 wrote:

Hi Joe,

thanks for = your fine=20 signals, both on the "77"ies on LF, as well as perfectly = persistent=20 on VLF 8270.0075 Hz.

No objections from this end toward = EbNaut=20 in the opds band. For us it's comfortable to reuse an = already=20 running SpecLab instance with data Export. If you decide = for a=20 relatively short message and simple coding, my grabber PC=20 is capable of running an autodecoder instance. Spot on = 137500 is=20 not good as there are carriers from Russian Loran (all multiples = of 6.25=20 Hz), and it can also be prone to intermodulation from 60 + = 77.5 kHz=20 time signals. Better stick to your 137477 "home" QRG, or perhaps = go to=20 one of the unofficial EbNaut gathering spots, e.g. 137490.
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)

-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche = Mitteilung-----Von: jcraig <jcraig@mun.ca>
An:=20 rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= >Verschickt: Di, 4. Dez 2018 17:33
Betreff: Re:=20 LF: VO1NA - Opera32 detections

Thanks Bernd and Stefan.

Thanks also to Markus = for his OPDS=20 work and web site.

The=20 TX is a 50W class E feeding the 100x20m rotated L. The Decca PA = is taking some time off, following more = charred wood=20 and fused halyards...
quite = alarming!
An XOR = BPSK modulator=20 module is QRV for some EbNaut.  Is there any
objection to using 137.5 kHz to send an EbNaut = message later=20 this
week?
73
Joe

On Tue, 4 Dec 2018, DK7FC wrote:
> ...and a few from here too:
>
> 2018-12-04 = 07:00:00=20 VO1NA  4421km 137477.000Hz  2mHz -40.5dBOp  93% = 19.3dB> 2018-12-04 06:00:00 VO1NA  = 4421km=20 137477.000Hz  2mHz -37.2dBOp  93% 19.3dB
> 2018-12-04 05:00:00 VO1NA  4421km = 137477.000Hz =20 2mHz -34.3dBOp  93% 19.8dB
> = 2018-12-04=20 04:00:00 VO1NA  4421km 137477.000Hz  4mHz = -39.5dBOp  93%=20 16.8dB
> 2018-12-04 03:00:00 = VO1NA =20 4421km 137477.000Hz  2mHz -34.3dBOp  93% 19.8dB
> 2018-12-04 02:00:00 VO1NA  4421km = 137477.000Hz =20 2mHz -33.3dBOp  93% 19.1dB
> = 2018-12-04=20 01:00:02 VO1NA  4421km 137477.000Hz  2mHz = -32.4dBOp  83%=20 19.6dB
> 2018-12-04 00:00:00 = VO1NA =20 4421km 137476.999Hz  3mHz -39.3dBOp  93% 18.9dB
> 2018-12-03 23:00:02 VO1NA  4421km = 137477.000Hz =20 2mHz -36.3dBOp  83% 18.2dB
> = 2018-12-03=20 21:00:00 VO1NA  4421km 137477.000Hz  2mHz = -42.7dBOp  93%=20 18.4dB
> 2018-12-03 18:03:56 = IK1HGI =20 449km 137480.000Hz  2mHz -41.2dBOp  81% 17.9dB
> 2018-12-03 17:29:15 IK1HGI  449km = 137480.000Hz =20 4mHz -41.4dBOp  96% 19.2dB
> = 2018-12-03=20 16:54:35 IK1HGI  449km 137480.000Hz  4mHz = -39.5dBOp  97%=20 19.1dB
> 2018-12-03 15:09:40 = IK1HGI =20 449km 137480.000Hz  2mHz -35.2dBOp  94% 20.7dB
> 2018-12-03 10:08:36 IK1HGI  449km = 137480.000Hz =20 3mHz -43.9dBOp  98% 15.2dB
> = 2018-12-03=20 03:00:02 VO1NA  4421km 137477.000Hz  2mHz = -42.6dBOp  52%=20 15.7dB
> 2018-12-03 02:00:02 = VO1NA =20 4421km 137477.000Hz  2mHz -35.5dBOp  52% 18.3dB
> 2018-12-03 01:00:00 VO1NA  4421km = 137477.000Hz =20 4mHz -41.4dBOp  93% 18.0dB
>> 73, Stefan
>>
> = Am 04.12.2018=20 08:27, schrieb Bernhard Wiesgickl:
>>=20 Hello all,
>>
>> many detections of VO1NA the last nights at = DL0AO:>> 2018-12-04 07:00:03 = VO1NA  4606km=20 137477.000Hz  2mHz -41.6dBOp  94%
>> 17.0dB
>> = 2018-12-04=20 06:00:01 VO1NA  4606km 137477.000Hz  2mHz = -32.0dBOp  82%=20
>> 18.3dB
>> 2018-12-04 05:00:03 VO1NA  4606km=20 137477.000Hz  2mHz -34.4dBOp  94%
>> 19.2dB
>> = 2018-12-04=20 04:00:03 VO1NA  4606km 137477.000Hz  3mHz = -46.5dBOp  94%=20
>> 16.3dB
>> 2018-12-04 03:00:03 VO1NA  4606km=20 137477.000Hz  3mHz -37.3dBOp  94%
>> 18.2dB
>> = 2018-12-04=20 02:00:03 VO1NA  4606km 137477.000Hz  3mHz = -40.5dBOp  94%=20
>> 18.2dB
>> 2018-12-04 01:00:03 VO1NA  4606km=20 137477.000Hz  2mHz -38.2dBOp  94%
>> 18.8dB
>> = 2018-12-04=20 00:00:03 VO1NA  4606km 137477.000Hz  2mHz = -40.1dBOp  94%=20
>> 18.6dB
>> 2018-12-03 22:00:01 VO1NA  4606km=20 137477.000Hz  4mHz -43.0dBOp  94%
>> 16.1dB
>> = 2018-12-03=20 21:00:03 VO1NA  4606km 137477.000Hz  3mHz = -43.4dBOp  64%=20
>> 16.5dB
>>
>> Also = nice visible=20 QRSS-Signals during the local morning hours.
>>
>> https://lf.u01.de/
>>
>> = Bernd, DF9RB>>
>> >>
>> >
>

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