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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Hello Greg, RR, then welcome to the group! Your 20 m wire could produce WSPR decodes in a 1000 km range, if the wire it not completely sourrounded by trees and if it has some distance above GND. For CW you may ne [...] Content analysis details: (-2.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [185.67.36.66 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: b08ad821341ca291e1fd930f7b9292d3 Subject: Re: LF: AW: WSPR-15 weekend Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by klubnl.pl id wB3EkI4K020308 Hello Greg, RR, then welcome to the group! Your 20 m wire could produce WSPR decodes in a 1000 km range, if the wire it not completely sourrounded by trees and if it has some distance above GND. For CW you may need high power or a better antenna. But the question is if your TRX provides the frequency stability needed for WSPR. Is the automatic tuner separated from the TRX or do you have to feed the wire into the shack? In principal you only need a coil and a ferrite transformer to match the antenna to 50 Ohm at MF. The material is available from the net or local markets such as BAUHAUS ;-) Don't hesitate to ask if you need more concrete help/advice. 73, Stefan Am 02.12.2018 21:34, schrieb Greg Fismer: > Hi Stefan, > Yes, I‘m new to the LF group. I started listening to MF/LF last winter and joined the group a couple of weeks ago. At the moment I use the Mini-Whip for listening, it is installed high up directly under a roof without isolation. The RX/TX is a Marine radio mfg. ca. 1995 by Skanti from Denmark, Model TRP825xMF, 250W Max. Output on MF with an automatic ATU. But I haven‘t yet managed to get up a half decent TX antenna for MF. For HF I use a 2-Element Yagi and a 20m long Endfed wire. I own a few of these old Skanti radios and use them regularly on the HF bands, mainly for CW, but only one radio has the MF PA-Filters installed. The town here is called Rimbach, Loc. JN49jo, and I live right in the Center of it, so it‘s not the worlds quietest QTH, but not that bad either. Space for long antennas is limited, the house itself is big but the estate is small. I‘m open to experimenting, but I must confess that I‘m not the worlds most technical guy, having studied Life Sciences (Pharmacy) in Heidelberg and making my living by selling legal drugs (=Pharmacist) > > 73 de Greg DF2IC > > > G. Fismer, Staatsstr.35, D-64668 Rimbach > Tel.: +49 (0)152 5636 1318 > > >> Am 02.12.2018 um 09:45 schrieb DK7FC: >> >> Hello Greg, >> >> thanks for the reports from 20 km distance :-) >> It is the first time that i see you on the map and that i read from you here. Are you a new memeber? :-) >> >> 20 km is an interesting distance for local tests on lower frequencies :-) Do you live in a quiet location or is there a lot of QRM arround? >> >> 73, Stefan >> >> >> Am 01.12.2018 08:10, schrieb Greg Fismer: >> >>> Moin Stefan& Group, >>> >>> WSPR-15 signals very well received over a distance of ~20km :-) No other signals though. >>> >>> 73 de Greg DF2IC >>> >>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >>> Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von DK7FC >>> Gesendet: Freitag, 30. November 2018 14:43 >>> An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> Betreff: LF: WSPR-15 weekend >>> >>> Hi LF, I'm going to spend the night at WSPR-15 on 137.620 kHz again. If someone is interested to join or to try to decode, don't hestiate ;-) >>> >>> 73, Stefan >>> >>> >>> >>> > >