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Content preview: Hello Stefan, Any chance of a few photos of the H Bridge amp construction please? I take it the BF862's in the optocoupler feeds act as current limiters? Any reason you didn't just use resistors instead? Or is it f [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [2a00:1450:4864:20:0:0:0:42c listed in] [list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (dead.fets[at]gmail.com) 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 5f132ffce194fb93f2267a462d849f2b Subject: Re: [Lowfer] LF: Re: FET change, hmmm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello Stefan, Any chance of a few photos of the H Bridge amp construction please? I take it the BF862's in the optocoupler feeds act as current limiters? Any reason you didn't just use resistors instead? Or is it for galvanic isolation? The IXDD414CI appears obsolete, the IXDD614CI is still current from none Chinese suppliers, should I use a 614? Any thoughts on more modern FET's as the IRFP460A is also off the current device listings from named suppliers :( Thanks! Paul: W1VD makes the comment that the IR2110 is near its limit gate capacitance drive wise, driving the parallelled devices, so a change to devices with more gate capacitance is going to be pushing things. I know these are dear but the gate and drain waveforms I see with them and notably better than the older design FET's, although for me they have not been an issue. My free supply of the Wolfspeed FET's has stopped, otherwise I would still use them. I lost a few whilst finding my feet and ironing out mistakes, and poor layout. A gate capacitance of 660pF is pretty impressive ;) Can you upload screen shots of the gate and drain waveforms you are now seeing for comparison, they are kind of hard to envisage in words ;) https://www.wolfspeed.com/media/downloads/176/C3M0065090D.pdf Sunday, December 2, 2018, 4:38:58 PM, you wrote: > Hi Paul, > In one of my early PA designa i also used an IR2110 to drive FETs having > 4 nF gate capacity. At 137 kHz the driver became quite hot and the total > life time was just about 20 hours. In my opinion this driver is not a > good choice for 137 kHz when using large FETs. > The ringing should be reduced by first reducing stay inductances and > then maybe adding 1 to 5 Ohm in series to the gate. I spread the winding > of the gates in my H bridge equally over the core and then twisted the > two wires. Also i soldered them as close as possible to the FET, to > reduce galvanic coupling. > 73, GL, Stefan -- Best regards, Chris mailto:dead.fets@gmail.com