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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Rob Continued 'perfect' reception with CW ID. Jay W1VD Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:36 listed in] [list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (jrusgrove[at]comcast.net) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 9b15d9defc5ae6fa811529a4cbe8c306 Subject: Re: LF: LF and VLF EbNaut Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1=_fDn6uonxVNgesZmyNhjPig5ZTCqfRyn" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_BODY,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format --1=_fDn6uonxVNgesZmyNhjPig5ZTCqfRyn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Rob Continued 'perfect' reception with CW ID. Jay W1VD ----- Original Message ----- From: Rob Renoud Reply-To: To: Sent: 12/8/2018 4:17:50 PM Subject: Re: LF: LF and VLF EbNaut LF EbNaut & Markus, There is a definite post sunset opening to Europe from the NA East Coa= st. I have modified my station to overlay a 10 minute CW ID (off-on CW mod= ulation=20 at 20 wpm) on the EbNaut message stream. Will be interested to see wh= at effect=20 it has on decodes. Am still transmitting a 5 character text message a= s before. Tnx es 73, Rob - K3RWR On Dec 8, 2018, at 10:57, Markus Vester wrote: Here are the Bavarian decodes from last night's sesseion. Eb/N0 values= derived from symbol error rate and carrier power were sometimes rathe= r inconsistent so both are mentioned here. As expected, the quiet DL0A= O site is generally a few dB better than mine, decoding VO1NA consiste= ntly in every single slot. I was amazed by the early start from Canada. At this time of the year,= such northerly paths are apparently close enough to darkness almost a= round the clock. My 100 kHz monitor shows Loran signals from East Chin= a rolling in already around midday here. EbNaut Decodes 2018-12-07/08 VO1NA 137477 Hz: DF6NM DL0AO start sym car sym car 17:00 3.3 3.1 5.8 5.2 MARCONI 18:00 8.6 9.5 12.3 13.3 19:00 5.7 7.4 6.7 7.1 20:00 4.0 1.9 12.0 7.8 21:00 2.3 5.0 11.8 7.3 22:00 7.1 7.9 13.4 12.2 23:00 10.7 10.8 10.5 8.9 00:00 9.5 8.4 12.1 4.3 01:00 9.8 8.5 11.9 8.2 ******* 02:00 2.4 1.9 7.2 6.1 -VO1NA- 03:00 7.3 4.1 4.2 -1.3 04:00 1.7 3.0 5.5 2.9 05:00 8.5 5.4 8.3 4.2 06:00 --- 10.0 8.9=20 07:00 5.7 5.8 6.6 7.2 08:00 --- 3.1 2.3 (+0.2 mHz) K3RWR 137479 Hz: DF6NM DL0AO start sym car sym car 20:00 --- --- K3RWR 20:30 --- --- =20 21:00 2.3 1.5 --- 21:30 --- --- =20 22:00 --- 2.0 -1.8=20 22:30 --- --- =20 23:00 --- 4.6 0.1 =20 23:30 6.4 3.1 11.3 8.2 00:00 5.0 2.7 3.9 -3.5 00:30 5.4 4.8 --- 01:00 --- --- 01:30 --- --- 02:00 5.1 3.9 3.6 3.1 02:30 --- 1.2 -0.8 03:00 --- --- 03:30 --- --- 04:00 2.8 0.4 --- 04:30 0.9 -1.3 5.5 1.5 05:00 6.4 1.9 4.0 -1.6 05:30 4.0 0.4 5.9 -0.5 06:00 -1.6 -1.7 1.2 -0.1 06:30 --- 4.4 0.1 07:00 --- ---=20 07:30 --- 1.4 1.8 08:00 --- 0.4 0.2 Best 73, Markus --1=_fDn6uonxVNgesZmyNhjPig5ZTCqfRyn Content-Type: multipart/related; type="text/html"; boundary="TU7stBbFUBxEuLWJlkLVu4=_iWzR6QtEnE" --TU7stBbFUBxEuLWJlkLVu4=_iWzR6QtEnE Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Rob
 
Continued 'perfect' reception with CW ID.
 
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Jay W1VD
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Renoud <k3rwr@md.metrocast.net>
Sent: 12/8/2018 4:17:50 PM
Subject: Re: LF: LF and VLF EbNaut

LF EbNaut & Markus,

There is a definite post sunset opening to Europe from = the NA East Coast.

I have modified my station to overlay a 10 minute CW ID= (off-on CW modulation at 20 wpm) on the EbNaut message stream.  = Will be interested to see what effect it has on decodes.  Am stil= l transmitting a 5 character text message as before.

Tnx es 73,
Rob - K3RWR

On Dec 8, 2018, at 10:57, Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com> wrote:
Here are the Bavarian decodes from last night's sess= eion. Eb/N0 values derived from symbol error rate and carrier pow= er were sometimes rather inconsistent so both are mentioned here. As e= xpected, the quiet DL0AO site is generally a few dB better than mine, = decoding VO1NA consistently in every single slot.

I was amazed = by the early start from Canada. At this time of the year, such no= rtherly paths are apparently close enough to darkness a= lmost around the clock. My 100 kHz monitor shows Loran signals fr= om East China rolling in already around midday here.

EbNaut Decodes 2018= -12-07/08

VO1NA 137477 Hz:

        DF6N= M       DL0AO
start  sym  car = ;   sym  car
17:00  3.3  3.1    5.= 8  5.2  MARCONI
18:00  8.6  9.5   12.3 13.3<= /SPAN>
19:0= 0  5.7  7.4    6.7  7.1
20:00  4.0 = ; 1.9   12.0  7.8
21:00  2.3  5.0   11.= 8  7.3
22:00  7.1  7.9   13.4 12.2
23:00 10.7 10.8&nb= sp;  10.5  8.9

00:00  9.5  8.4   12.1  = 4.3
= 01:00  9.8  8.5   11.9  8.2  *******
02:00&n= bsp; 2.4  1.9    7.2  6.1  -VO1NA-

03:00&nbs= p; 7.3  4.1    4.2 -1.3
04:00  1.7  3.0 = ;   5.5  2.9
05:00  8.5  5.4    8.= 3  4.2
06:00     ---     10.0=   8.9
07:00  5.7  5.8    6.6  7.2
08:00&nb= sp;    ---      3.1  2.3 = (+0.2 mHz)

K3RWR 137479 Hz:

        DF6NM&= nbsp;      DL0AO
start  sym  car &= nbsp;  sym  car
20:00     ---  &nb= sp;      ---    K3RWR20:30 &= nbsp;   ---         = --- 
21:00  2.3  1.5       -= --
2= 1:30     ---      &n= bsp;  --- 
22:00     ---   &= nbsp;  2.0 -1.8
22:30     ---   &= nbsp;     --- 
23:00     ---=       4.6  0.1 
23:30  6.4  = 3.1   11.3  8.2
00:00  5.0  2.7   = 3.9 -3.5
00:30  5.4  4.8       --= -
01= :00     ---      &nb= sp;  ---
01:30     ---    &nb= sp;    ---
02:00  5.1  3.9    3.6&= nbsp; 3.1
02:30     ---      = 1.2 -0.8
03:00     ---     &n= bsp;   ---
03:30     ---   &n= bsp;     ---
04:00  2.8  0.4  &nbs= p;    ---
04:30  0.9 -1.3    5.5  = 1.5
= 05:00  6.4  1.9    4.0 -1.6
05:30  4.0 = 0.4    5.9 -0.5
06:00 -1.6 -1.7    1.2 -0.1=
06:= 30     ---      4.4 = 0.1
07:00     ---      =    ---
07:30     ---    = ;  1.4  1.8
08:00     ---   &= nbsp;  0.4  0.2

Best 73,
Markus

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