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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Hi Andy, Jacek SQ5BPF and Marcin SQ2BXI are maintaining a valuable and searchable archive of Blacksheep messages. It goes back to July 2014 and includes attachments. The email mentioned by Stefan is here: ht [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [74.6.133.42 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (markusvester[at]aol.com) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid 0.0 T_REMOTE_IMAGE Message contains an external image X-Scan-Signature: fefa6d96b1284f767a869566d1bc7791 Subject: Re: LF: Re: EbNaut LF page updated Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3121724_1206682975.1545394072444" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ------=_Part_3121724_1206682975.1545394072444 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Andy, Jacek SQ5BPF and Marcin SQ2BXI are maintaining a valuable and searchable ar= chive of=C2=A0Blacksheep messages. It=C2=A0goes back to July 2014 and inclu= des attachments. The email mentioned by Stefan is here: https://klubnl.pl/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2018-12/msg0020= 4.html If you like you could also have a look at my inverse-FFT utility,=C2=A0cont= aining BASIC source code which also writes the appropriate wav headers: http://df6nm.bplaced.net/VLF/fec_tests/ebnaut_ifft3b.zip Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- Von: Andy Talbot An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; rsgb-lf-gr= oup Verschickt: Do, 20. Dez 2018 19:05 Betreff: Re: LF: Re: EbNaut LF page updated If was sent to the groups.io then it will be in the archives.=C2=A0 If to B= lacksheep, then lost completely - I don't save every Blacksheep message It's the full extended header contents format I'm after.=C2=A0 =C2=A0It is = essentially a .txt block=C2=A0 containing the resampled data rate, the numb= er format=C2=A0 and other info.=C2=A0 The "other" info is not essential=C2= =A0 and I left it out of my prog of a while ago.=C2=A0 =C2=A0The text block= is embedded within the .WAV as another RIFF DATA block and is only read by= software designed to read that format. It really would help if people posted to the groups.io now, so messages are= automatically archived.It's not Yahoo anymore, so those who refuse to have= anything to do with Y no longer have an argument. Andywww.g4jnt.com | | Virus-free. www.avg.com | On Thu, 20 Dec 2018 at 17:39, DK7FC wrote: Well, EA5DOM sent a .wav file in his email of the 12th DEC. With thiswav f= ile you can 'play'. It contains an EbNaut message that you can tryto decode= . I don't know how to answer your question better. 73, Stefan Am 20.12.2018 16:22, schrieb Andy Talbot: Couldsomeone also please document the format of the custom .WAV filegene= rated to read into the decoder software A couple ofyears ago I made a custo= m LF receiver that managed to successfullyreceive some Ebnaut signals on 13= 7kHz.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I had some details of thecustom file format needed, but h= ave now lost them.=C2=A0 So all that'savailable now is my original source c= ode, and FAIK it may not be ascomplete as it could be - and things may have= changed=C2=A0 It just workedback then.=20 Andy www.g4jnt.com =20 =20 =20 ------=_Part_3121724_1206682975.1545394072444 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Andy,

Jacek SQ5BPF and Marcin SQ2BXI ar= e maintaining a valuable and searchable archive of Blacksheep messages= . It goes back to July 2014 and includes attachments. The email mentio= ned by Stefan is here:
https://klubnl.pl/rsg= b_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/2018-12/msg00204.html

If you like you could also= have a look at my inverse-FFT utility, containing BASIC source code w= hich also writes the appropriate wav headers:
http://df6nm.bplaced.net/V= LF/fec_tests/ebnaut_ifft3b.zip

Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)

-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----Von: Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@gmail.com>=
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org <rsgb_l= f_group@blacksheep.org>; rsgb-lf-group <rsgb-lf-group@groups.io>Verschickt: Do, 20. Dez 2018 19:05
Betreff: Re: LF: Re: EbNaut LF page updated

If was sent to the groups.io then it will be in the archives.  If to Blacks= heep, then lost completely - I don't save every Blacksheep message

It's the full extended header con= tents format I'm after.   It is essentially a .txt block  co= ntaining the resampled data rate, the number format  and other info.&n= bsp; The "other" info is not essential  and I left it out of my prog o= f a while ago.   The text block is embedded within the .WAV as an= other RIFF DATA block and is only read by software designed to read that fo= rmat.

It really would he= lp if people posted to the groups.io now, so messages = are automatically archived.
I= t's not Yahoo anymore, so those who refuse to have anything to do with Y no= longer have an argument.


On Thu, 20 Dec 2018 at 17:39, DK7FC <= ;se= lberdenken@posteo.de> wrote:
=20 =20
Well, EA5DOM sent a .wav file in his email of the 12th DEC. With this wav file you can 'play'. It contains an EbNaut message that you can try to decode. I don't know how to answer your question better.

73, Stefan

Am 20.12.2018 16:22, schrieb Andy Talbot:
Could someone also please document the format of the custom .WAV file generated to read into the decoder software
A couple of years ago I made a custom LF receiver that managed to successfully receive some Ebnaut signals on 137kHz.   I had some details of th= e custom file format needed, but have now lost them.  So all that's available now is my original source code, and FAIK it may not be as complete as it could be - and things may have changed  It just worked back then.


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