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Content preview: Paul Ringing of FETS is an Early Warning sign for a Big Bang There should be no ringing or singing. g3kev Content analysis details: (0.2 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [62.24.135.67 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.2 STOX_REPLY_TYPE No description available. -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: d7fcd9b75df8d1b09ddef9df028bd9ae Subject: Re: [Lowfer] LF: Re: FET change, hmmm Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Paul Ringing of FETS is an Early Warning sign for a Big Bang There should be no ringing or singing. g3kev -----Original Message----- From: N1BUG Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 8:50 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: [Lowfer] LF: Re: FET change, hmmm All I know is this amp had very little drain ringing and worked well with FQA34N20 FETs but it is not happy with FQA32N20. I slowly increased drain voltage but at 200W out (of a kilowatt deck), there were obvious issues related to the ringing. I've gone back to my old faithful 200W output Class E amp for now. I am running WSPR-2 33% 137.437. Paul On 11/30/18 3:25 PM, Andy Talbot wrote: > Cross conduction spikes can also be dealt with by inserting a bit of > inductance between top and bottom FETs of a totem pole, or in each leg of > a > push-pull pair. As done in the old Decca transmitters, and I cribbed for > my 700 Watt 137 design. > The inductor absorbs the short spike and returns the energy via clamp > diodes to the supply > See http://www.g4jnt.com/137tx.pdf > > A lot simpler than worrying about generating a special drive waveform with > gaps > > Andy > www.g4jnt.com > > > > On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 20:19, Hans-Albrecht Haffa wrote: > >> Dear OMs, dear Paul, >> >> To prevend current spikes by cross conduction of both fets it is necesary >> to use a gate drive circuit with dead time, as used in power supplies. >> But >> in this case there is a no current flow time in both transistors, what >> may >> cause spikes in the drain circuit. Damping of oscillations in the drain >> circuit may also reached by quiescent current, not used for class D PAs. >> To >> load the spikes to the load is not possible in an LW-PA, like in an >> flyback-transformer of an switch mode power supply, as the load is an >> LP-Filter that filters by reflections of the applied voltage.