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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: First decode with SlowJT9 (albeit JT9-1) : 474.2 kHz + 1306 Hz audio: 1814 -22  0.1 1306 1  CQ SV8CS KM07 hny,   Wolf . Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [2001:748:100:40:0:0:2:2 listed in] [list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (dl4yhf[at]freenet.de) X-Scan-Signature: 4d97240a623a26620214cd27feaa9f71 Subject: Re: LF: SV8CS : Good news Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false First decode with SlowJT9 (albeit JT9-1) : 474.2 kHz + 1306 Hz audio: 1814 -22  0.1 1306 1  CQ SV8CS KM07 hny,   Wolf . On 31.12.2018 18:21, SV8CS-Spiros Chimarios wrote: > Hi to all. > Now I found my problem with the transmission with JT9-5. > The Yaesu FT-2000 is completely unstable. > The Yaesu FT-485 the same. > The Kenwood TS-2000 super stable. > The Icom IC-756 also stable. > So, now I switched to Kenwwod TS-2000 ad I can transmit JT9-5 very well. > NOW CW JT9-5  474.2 KHz  1st cycle. > Reports or answers are welcome. > 73, HNY > Spiros/SV8CS > > > -----Original Message----- From: N1BUG > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 15:54 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; rsgb-lf-group@groups.io ; > Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, & UK) and MedFer bands ; > 600MRG@mailman.qth.net > Subject: LF: Re: Bad news / help request > > Duh! Scratch item 3. Of course that won't work as it will destroy > the JT9 tone spacing!! > > Paul > > > On 12/31/18 8:59 AM, N1BUG wrote: >> So, the latest SlowJT9 test is completed. I regret I was not able to >> run one night on 630m as planned. >> >> I used a QRP Labs Ultimate 3S beacon transmitter for these tests. >> Yesterday I checked my ability to use JT9-5 for QSOs and found that >> I have none! My FT-2000 transceiver has too much drift to be of any >> use on JT9-5 and is very marginal even for JT9-2. What a huge >> disappointment, though it did not come as any surprise. >> >> I can think of several ways to solve this but am not sure any of >> them can save some part of this winter season: >> >> 1. Add insulation and a heater to the FT-2000 TCXO area. I will try >> this but I am not convinced I can make enough improvement. The drift >> is really ugly! >> >> 2. Replace the FT-2000 TCXO with an outboard programmable GPS >> referenced oscillator, for example a Leo Bodnar unit. The trouble >> with this is I do not have sufficient knowledge or experience to >> know what kind of problems might be encountered. The GPSDO is enough >> of an investment to kill any and all other attempts at a resolution >> if I am unable to make it work. >> >> 3. Use a divide-by-100 circuit with the FT-2000 operating at 13.6 >> MHz instead of a LO/mixer converter from 10 MHz. This should reduce >> drift to the order of 0.1 Hz, probably quite acceptable. So far I >> have not found a divide-by-100 circuit using a modern/available part. >> >> 4. Run away from the junk FT-2000 completely, using audio to 136 kHz >> converter for Tx and 136 kHz to audio converter for Rx. This is >> finally the direction I want to go but there seems to be much >> learning left to do and a lot of building. It's probably not a >> solution which can be completed in time for this winter season. >> >> If anyone has experience in any of these areas and is willing to >> share knowledge, please get in touch with me. This may be the last >> solar minimum for me, and I would like to make some LF/MF DX QSOs >> before these incredible conditions fade away. >> >> 73, >> Paul N1BUG > >