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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Hi Markus, That is very interesting. It changes about 25 % during the first 2-3 minutes, then it seems to settle down and not change any more. It could be moisture somewhere, but any moisture here is solid ice o [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [74.208.4.197 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good reputation (+3) [74.208.4.197 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders X-Scan-Signature: 9d01e9df836df8dd3868645661e1c1f7 Subject: Re: LF: No 2200m TX tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Markus, That is very interesting. It changes about 25 % during the first 2-3 minutes, then it seems to settle down and not change any more. It could be moisture somewhere, but any moisture here is solid ice or frost now. I did not find any ice or frost in the transformer box or the variometer. Could be insulators or something with the antenna itself. I don't see any "fuzz" on the scomematch voltage trace so I think (hope) nothing is arcing. What worried me is this did not happen last winter so something has changed. Everything accumulates some dirt here because of blowing dust, smoke, etc. I wonder if a small amount of dirt on insulators plus moisture can combine to make funny things happen. Anyway I examined the little PA and it seems to have died due to poor thermal interface between FET and heatsink. It's a physically small FET and maybe was not screwed down tight enough with the Sil-Pad interface, which was also a previously used one. Normally I do not like to put drain voltage on the heatsink but as an experiment for this little PA (which is totally an experiment itself, but served me very well last winter) I will isolate the heat sink from the chassis/PCB and mount the little FET directly to it. The thermal resistance would be much lower! I think this is fine so long as nothing shorts the heat sink to ground. In that case some fuses die. ;-) This would add some pf of capacitance between drain and ground but it would be in parallel with the quite large C of the Class E tank, probably not much difference at 137 kHz! Parts to repair the big PA should arrive Wednesday. 73, Paul On 11/23/18 4:29 PM, Markus Vester wrote: > Hi Paul, > > sorry to read that. Have pity on the poor FETs! > > You mentioned that the antenna resistance is gradually decreasing > (i.e. improving) during longer transmissions. I often see that > effect here, with the current rising by say 20 % during the first > few minutes. I've put it down to moisture or dew around the coil > and insulators (tiny little polycarbomnnate pencil tubes), which > evaporates as things warm up. It is more prominent during cold > damp weather, and much more so with the very high antenna > impedance at VLF than at LF. > > Good luck, Markus > > > -----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung----- Von: N1BUG > An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Verschickt: Fr, 23. Nov. 2018 22:12 Betreff: LF: No 2200m TX > tonight > > No transmissions from me this night. The little amplifier has > died. I think it may be related to this resistance change in the > antenna which is getting worse and worse. > > I'm going back to MF for this night, sorry! > > 73, Paul