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Sun, 25 Nov 2018 22:37:51 +0000 From: Laurence KL7 L To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Thread-Topic: LF: No 2200m TX tonight Thread-Index: AQHUg3P+nMC4YxzDHkCtgk/jnakLvaVe0B+AgABIyICAACrBAIAAC7iAgAAHdICAAAftgIAAEJIAgAFuJYCAADqeTA== Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 22:37:51 +0000 Message-ID: References: <1050898420.5270936.1543008571489.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1050898420.5270936.1543008571489@mail.yahoo.com> <5BF9776F.2020802@posteo.de> <60316d81-c382-d148-4f66-655927b999aa@n1bug.com> <5BF9A521.5010808@posteo.de> <5BF9B207.5080105@posteo.de> ,<10c3577b-5b72-123f-6210-a7feab594260@n1bug.com> In-Reply-To: <10c3577b-5b72-123f-6210-a7feab594260@n1bug.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-incomingtopheadermarker: OriginalChecksum:A848A36AF8A09CE5E4DA3EF5941F6FC0B7B6E4C58048F4BAF339D2FCEC524D43;UpperCasedChecksum:C84A53B34C328D5D22825D901A911C47488BE676EA2927A09404E51C8C752295;SizeAsReceived:7463;Count:46 x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-tmn: [niDWnPno+uCKTw83HtczRx9m2BU/kvLQ] x-ms-publictraffictype: Email x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1;CO1NAM05HT141;6:LI7wQw1DtOguoajnFoIe3sj/i1PcJ2kZq27zCV7noBgG5W3AQDsSExbqTv5PHqnzL2HChgLQ4zTji1bsz1BN6/4HhD3tIboZAUmFsBg/9ik0FkZ/lcYQLLPVggZtC3TVcjgcJgUaU65wGxwD1aayWK3HBjnaH8hbrd0dmdokm51P+B1xU6G6GX4ysqcyp4MZ26eAALfSyTFzYgi3uQPgzzLJVNQhh3irc6GNxsLkSZg8VGWMu8Hy0SctzaHRxOTGb8lTfg9ScpHtda7Q+rxEbxXPiOTlLykqqzBMvVqlHAdEG/y+Pmmw+dlqQyxrZNf6p98O07pSmdv0lYwOinQUnDC+v3VkEz0XDGHmBIO6+HYJZ9XLr2UdG26z5iRrp5a+8RfHF5GQpqut8F3J+hJHTxmy4W9w2YgmNpJ+ufJkAGGKDVN7qFtUScKOcHjImy6oPxI273gtd68gDd2ynsmzNw==;5:IG3mSfKP8MHARICgrDDEdcsO/KhZrBfrg+JlWy26Vx0ldBmEkMDB9HZT1c4Lxqh6eHcFv3rOgGCjIscgITXoWg92yZxSo9/NPqCvLCP3/baE/Lj4g3287hyfV/IsQHN0GYqtFBuszvkLiKkDeaNFdUd7FDQFUazTv/FgVmrGyGs=;7:aI00ij2YaTJj67U7G1diixcL699SvvC5at3QEZRsSte5qOut9PG1vySJRLqF3CXicNfeMW64UurAf0amUaZbUVvjdkFepPSThFnLX2ImDg3E6vr0bDLUeTY6zVHV/6GJSvjJRjbxoavcDJysWXybCA== x-incomingheadercount: 46 x-eopattributedmessage: 0 x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:(2390098)(7020095)(201702061078)(5061506573)(5061507331)(1603103135)(2017031320274)(2017031324274)(2017031323274)(2017031322404)(1603101475)(1601125500)(1701031045);SRVR:CO1NAM05HT141; 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: so.... try using a hair dryer on heat on your coil/components before use and see if you can heat (hit) the target and see any differences on power up or youve driven moisture out or small movement... Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [40.92.12.82 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (hellozerohellozero[at]hotmail.com) 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 5f132ffce194fb93f2267a462d849f2b Subject: Re: LF: No 2200m TX tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by klubnl.pl id wAPMhgWk031029 so.... try using a hair dryer on heat on your coil/components before use and see if you can heat (hit) the target and see any differences on power up or youve driven moisture out or small movement... Laurence KL7L/KH6 > On Nov 25, 2018, at 9:10 AM, N1BUG wrote: > > So... > > I eliminated the shorted turn at the base of the big coil. Now any > turns below the tap which goes to the "hot" side of the ferrite core > impedance matching xfmr just float. > > Three things I noticed were: > > 1. Loaded Q is much higher!!! > > 2. I had to move the tap further up the coil to resonate the system > (less inductance.... or at least fewer turns). > > 3. The bottom of the coil no longer feels warm after a TX period. > > I ran the TX for 15 minutes at 25W RF output. There was no change in > phase of voltage / current on the feed line, but the voltage > increased slightly during the 15 minutes. > > I then ran the TX for 15 minutes at 100W RF output. I have the same > problem as before: during the first several minutes resonance shifts > and current on the feed line increases greatly. This is a very slow, > steady change. There are no sudden jumps. After the TX stops it > takes only a few seconds for things to return to the "cold" levels. > That is, if I stop the TX after 15 minutes, then start it again > after 20 seconds the phase and voltage/current magnitude is almost > back to where it was before any TX at all. > > Must be something heating up very slowly, then cooling quickly after > RF stops. But I cannot find it. I think I have to buy one of the > inexpensive IR heat guns and try to examine the coil and hardware > while the TX is running. Maybe it will see something. > > Now we have freezing rain and snow so I had to stop all testing. No > good wx forecast until Thursday! > > 73, > Paul > > > >