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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Hi LF, Stefan, I'm sorry about the misunderstanding...but you had a good idea! Many thanks; then: *QRG 137620.000 Hz* Content analysis details: (0.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [2a00:1450:4864:20:0:0:0:529 listed in] [list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (riccardozoli80[at]gmail.com) 0.2 FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT Envelope-from freemail username ends in digit (riccardozoli80[at]gmail.com) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 68701e491b3279fd2ee04d15cfa5e3e8 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SA Timed out after 180 secs Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false --00000000000077e489057a905297 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi LF, Stefan, I'm sorry about the misunderstanding...but you had a good idea! Many thanks; then: *QRG 137620.000 Hz* *First TX at 19:30 UTC* *Last TX at 07:30 UTC* *Hourly starting at min. xx:30* *Coding 16K21A* *CRC 16* *Symbol period: 2 sec.* *Char. 3* *Duration: 28' 48"* Reports are welcome GE/GN all 73 de Riccardo IW4DXW Il giorno Mar 13 Nov 2018, 18:29 DK7FC ha scritto: > Hi Riccardo, > > On which same QRG? Like last night or on my QRG? :-) Of course you can use > my QRG if you use the odd half hour (xx:30). Your settings are fine i > think. Maybe use 16K21A and just 3 characters at 2 sec symbols if you want > to rise the chances even more. > > Good luck! > > Obviously there are now a few DX stns watching. I also got some feedback > from K3SIW... > > 73, Stefan > > Am 13.11.2018 17:07, schrieb Riccardo Zoli: > > > Thanks so much, Stefan! Yes, sorry but I turned off the TX prematurely (I > was going out to work). Maybe I will try again tonight on the same QRG (or > another: any suggestion?). I also could increase the symbol duration, so > I'd have a better chance in a DX report. > > All the best > > > 73 de Riccardo IW4DXW > > > > Il giorno Mar 13 Nov 2018, 10:46 DK7FC ha > scritto: > >> Hello Riccardo, >> >> Here is your decode from here. I just tried the 7 UTC message. Of course >> no problem but it looks like it stopped a bit early. >> Good luck and let's hope for some more professors. >> >> 73, Stefan >> >> >> Am 12.11.2018 20:18, schrieb Riccardo Zoli: >> >> >> Hi Jay, Rob, Stefan, Markus, all >> >> I have scheduled some transmissions, *starting at 19:30 UTC* (last TX at >> 07:00 UTC), *every 30 minutes*: >> >> *QRG: 137485.000 Hz* >> *Coding 8K19A* >> *CRC 16* >> *3 sec./sym.* >> *6 char* >> *Duration 28 min.* >> >> Antenna: inv. "L" 12 m + 36 m top hat. >> Power 350W. >> >> Reports are welcome. >> >> All the best >> >> 73 de Riccardo IW4DXW >> >> >> >> PS. Stefan booming (error free) last night in JN64 ;-) >> >> >> Il giorno Lun 12 Nov 2018, 13:55 Rob Renoud ha >> scritto: >> >>> Jay and Stefan, >>> >>> I attempted my first over the air EbNaut decodes last night using two >>> separate receive systems. All appeared well but find that both instances >>> of SL did not save the entire wave file for each receive period but >>> truncated it to about 165K. Will play with that today as have not >>> experienced that in previous end-to-end sessions in the shack. >>> >>> Well done and thanks for putting the EbNaut signal on the air, Stefan. >>> Thanks for posting yours, Jay, as it confirms I should have been able to >>> copy all. Look forward to another opportunity. >>> >>> 73, >>> Rob - K3RWR >>> >>> *From:* jrusgrove@comcast.net >>> *Sent:* Monday, November 12, 2018 1:34 AM >>> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> *Subject:* Re: LF: LF EbNaut tonite >>> >>> Stefan >>> >>> Copy of your message below. The message is not blacked out since it was >>> already available on Marcus's automated decoder. Nice to see rank 0. Will >>> be looking for Marcus next! >>> >>> >>> Jay W1VD >>> >>> >>> >>> *----- Original Message -----* >>> *From:* DK7FC >>> *Reply-To:* >>> *To:* >>> *Sent:* 11/11/2018 2:01:37 PM >>> *Subject:* Re: LF: LF EbNaut tonite >>> ------------------------------ >>> PS: The message is transmitted from a SpecLab instance. So you need to >>> consider the +0.3 second time offset, which is relevant at that symbol >>> length. Furthermore there is some uncertainty if the transmission starts at >>> the exact second. It could happen that it starts 1 second to late. We will >>> see what happens. >>> >>> 73, Stefan >>> >>> Am 11.11.2018 18:38, schrieb DK7FC: >>> >>> Hi LF, >>> >>> I'd like to try some EbNaut transmissions tonite. Maybe someone is some >>> distance is interested to detect them? >>> >>> Here is the program: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *f = 137.465 kHz Start time: 11.NOV.2018 19:00 UTC (hourly, until >>> including 7 UTC) Symbol period: 1 s Characters: 21 CRC bits:** 16* >>> >>> >>> * Coding 8K19A Antenna current: 4 A Duration: 21:20 [mm:ss]* >>> >>> Reports welcome. >>> >>> 73, Stefan >>> >>> --00000000000077e489057a905297 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi LF,

Stefan, I'm sorry about the misunderstanding...but y= ou had a good idea! Many thanks; then:

QRG 137620.000 Hz

<= /div>
First TX at 19:30 UTC
= Last TX at 07:30 UTC
Hourly starting at mi= n. xx:30
Coding 16K21A
CRC 16
Symbol period: 2 sec.
Char. 3
Duration: 28= 9; 48"

Reports = are welcome

GE/GN all

73 de Riccardo IW4DXW<= /div>

Il gi= orno Mar 13 Nov 2018, 18:29 DK7FC <selberdenke= n@posteo.de> ha scritto:
= =20
Hi Riccardo,

On which same QRG? Like last night or on my QRG? :-) Of course you can use my QRG if you use the odd half hour (xx:30). Your settings are fine i think. Maybe use 16K21A and just 3 characters at 2 sec symbols if you want to rise the chances even more.

Good luck!

Obviously there are now a few DX stns watching. I also got some feedback from K3SIW...

73, Stefan

Am 13.11.2018 17:07, schrieb Riccardo Zoli:

Thanks so much, Stefan! Yes, sorry but I turned off the TX prematurely (I was going out to work). Maybe I will try again tonight on the same QRG (or another: any suggestion?). I also could increase the symbol duration, so I'd have a better chance in a DX report.

All the best


73 de Riccardo IW4DXW



Il giorno Mar 13 Nov 2018, 10:46 DK7FC <selberdenken@posteo.de>= ; ha scritto:
Hello Riccardo,

Here is your decode from here. I just tried the 7 UTC message. Of course no problem but it looks like it stopped a bit early.
Good luck and let's hope for some more professors.

73, Stefan


Am 12.11.2018 20:18, schrieb Riccardo Zoli:

Hi Jay, Rob, Stefan, Markus, all

I have scheduled some transmissions,=C2=A0starti= ng at 19:30 UTC (last TX at 07:00 UTC), every 30 minutes:

QRG: 137485.000 Hz
Coding 8K19A
CRC 16
3 sec./sym.
6 char
Duration 28 min.

Antenna: inv. "L" 12 m + 36 m top hat.
Power 350W.

Reports are welcome.

All the best

73 de Riccardo IW4DXW



PS. Stefan booming (error free) last night in JN64 ;-)=C2=A0


Il giorno Lun 12 Nov 2018, 13:55 Rob Renoud <k3rwr@md.metrocast.net> ha scritto:
Jay and Stefan,
=C2=A0
I attempted my first over the air EbNaut decodes last night using two separate receive systems.=C2=A0 All appeared well but find that both instances of SL did not save the entire wave file for each receive period but truncated it to about 165K.=C2=A0 Will play with that today as have not experienced that in previous end-to-end sessions in the shack.
=C2=A0
Well done and thanks for putting the EbNaut signal on the air, Stefan.=C2=A0 Thanks for posting yours, Jay, as it confirms I should have been able to copy all.=C2=A0 Look forward to another opportunity.
=C2=A0
73,
Rob - K3RWR
=C2=A0
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: LF: LF EbNaut tonite
=C2=A0
Stefan
=C2=A0
Copy of your message below. The message is not blacked out since it was already available on Marcus's automated decoder. Nice to see rank 0. Will be looking for Marcus next!
=C2=A0
3D""
=C2=A0
Jay W1VD
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 11/11/2018 2:01:37 PM
Subject: Re: LF: LF EbNaut tonite
PS: The message is transmitted from a SpecLab instance. So you need to consider the +0.3 second time offset, which is relevant at that symbol length. Furthermore there is some uncertainty if the transmission starts at the exact second. It could happen that it starts 1 second to late. We will see what happens.

73, Stefan

Am 11.11.2018 18:38, schrieb DK7FC:
Hi LF,

I'd like to try some EbNaut transmissions tonite. Maybe someone is some distance is interested to detect them?

Here is the program:

f =3D 137.465 kHz
Start time: 11.NOV.2018=C2=A0 19:00 UTC (hourly, until including 7 UTC)
Symbol period: 1 s
Characters: 21
CRC bits: 16
Coding 8K19A
Antenna current: 4 A
Duration: 21:20 [mm:ss]

Reports welcome.

73, Stefan
--00000000000077e489057a905297--