Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id wANFGll6015247 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 16:16:48 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1gQD8M-0000Xn-A4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 15:12:42 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1gQD8L-0000Xc-PM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 15:12:41 +0000 Received: from mail-it1-x12c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::12c]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91_59-0488984) (envelope-from ) id 1gQD8I-0000sx-Oy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 15:12:40 +0000 Received: by mail-it1-x12c.google.com with SMTP id z7so1254336iti.0 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 07:12:37 -0800 (PST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=lOCcA6riMDViorg30KZSc8Rps2bBeoXCx60+nM67Ixc=; b=s6J8bZQKUqhUjSSkBI91/vFkwuFiGQK6QOBvMM5qCdTciWrZojTnXetl/O5e6XZ7BN WZEhbPCX1v5k7/hBKjrKRJzbb+H00KL497vZXgHWTBujkA4qm2PeAXugrYM7j98wIdP7 rtQ5N2zFu3/FJUnqz7+6r5Xbu+m1Wh5b997vfhDRwxzy2ov6DRtA0O1SiLZje9nDMAfA jjZ8PXKYic4YvO2WjGq4eb1/GepgUqSAoZcJcV02OSqK1y4rbDgFbd1a05EpkrRkmLKX gAgWBws0eFitbI39Dw5gF60QBqLJuOwqe4ntQU5bb91wcvnyq2FhizgHQqTg+OHl46SM 9B1Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=lOCcA6riMDViorg30KZSc8Rps2bBeoXCx60+nM67Ixc=; b=EA5IfPwjQ7Xne5LzcWl0zUae581lUNv9BbMT4b6tVhKjCkIabqcz4fGn05DxWV1Nhx AeVUSVYDYnidYwX6RDy3rILrwgj6aoLAmj+IuOOMfUv+y+2oOtZ/M+Q2Sr4jKdpikCfL 0nCiUGK6Z6JTzrEQFFBuCuy507HACGV7+zvejO2uMAhAJVTD3mMoOOgGv2aVYZMiz8Vn Kh7A6VqPW8VPTgjxKXHvVG4LY3TBKZxlv1IyugXAih2Skeh2CaIE2WlHjP7KpIjffA9O U6xdwpl9mcdkr095KU8UXuEhq2itTxHl/KKhClsDgOPHWrQuZCNk4OrM/FytleXJ4fbp XuSw== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gL9RaKoWX1SkogbT3lHffUJ4TSAy9se79QbCVEEjpNSZBemLhDm k7VjBt+QMoiHBbjxT/L9CsO2tzJd77eyo0RANKkOFQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5eqLO1Sl8WNMPNQIKmai3N5/pXmkBsaQCFIvRErBxWS++lJLIJSaJ3M3oJhfonCxEBoIAog31YP+4AOqzsebTU= X-Received: by 2002:a24:16ca:: with SMTP id a193mr13353979ita.38.1542985955994; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 07:12:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <893c160a-2611-1d0c-aa7c-9a85262afa9e@n1bug.com> In-Reply-To: <893c160a-2611-1d0c-aa7c-9a85262afa9e@n1bug.com> From: Rolf Torvik Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 16:12:24 +0100 Message-ID: To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Tnx Paul for trying so hard to complete our qso! I really try hard also but qsb was not playing with us. I followed your signal for quite some time, but had to go to bed since I had a workday in front [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [2607:f8b0:4864:20:0:0:0:12c listed in] [list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (la2xpa[at]gmail.com) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: da9a90c67b7e22f6718c156d8d99c1a4 Subject: Re: LF: Recent N1BUG 630m operation Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ccf25b057b5669b3" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false --000000000000ccf25b057b5669b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Tnx Paul for trying so hard to complete our qso! I really try hard also but qsb was not playing with us. I followed your signal for quite some time, but had to go to bed since I had a workday in front of me. I am in the middle of testing a new tx antenna, a 1/2 wave antenna ala VK4YB. It is very promising but the direction at the moment is not optimal - about 270deg. This need to be changed to about 300deg or even more to the north. My best beverage at the moment is pointing to 315deg, clearly better than my 290deg beverage. The hamspots and the PSK reporter reports is from the 315deg beverage, usually about 10dB better than my 1/2wave, but I had no problem reading you all the time on the tx antenna the 1/2 wave. At the moment I am remoting the whole setup so I wont be back to my qth before early next week for doing the necessary changes. I will try again this night. BTW: Your signal was really impressive, my best report was -6dB! on the 315deg bev GL Rolf LA2XPA Den fre. 23. nov. 2018 kl. 14:04 skrev N1BUG : > I spent the last 6 nights making QSOs on 630 meters. While it has > been interesting and at times fun, it has also been very frustrating. > > Many QSO opportunities were lost due to people calling split. WHY? > Perhaps it can be a useful technique for some, but most callers far > removed from my frequency end up buried in RFI and in some cases > mingled with another QSO attempt. Most of the band is badly trashed > by RFI here, but I almost always have one or two nice clean slots of > 40 to 80 Hz width. When calling CQ I try to get as close as I can to > the center of a clean area, hoping people will take the hint and > call on or near my frequency. Many don't. According to third party > reports I had many callers whom I never had a chance to decode > because of this. > > I did work 5 new states bringing my total to 22. I only made one DX > QSO with G3KEV. Thanks Mal for using good sense and calling me simplex! > > Last night I returned to the shack after a break to see several CQ > sequences from LA2XPA with SNR to -23 dB. It appeared he had > stopped, so I called CQ and almost immediately received a call from > LA2XPA. Unfortunately QSB set in and though I could see him on the > waterfall for two periods after that, nothing decoded. He was > calling split and ended up uncomfortably close to a strong U.S. > station who was attempting to complete a QSO. I continued for nearly > 3 hours hoping he would try to call me again, but despite his > station giving me reports (via hamspots and PSK Reporter) up to -8 I > never saw him call again. I am very sorry to have lost this QSO. > > I am returning to 2200 meters now. I can change bands somewhat > easier than last year but it still requires nasty fiddling with > wires and coax outside in the cold and snow. I will make a 630m > appearance from time to time. > > 73, > Paul N1BUG > FN55mf > > -- Rolf Torvik (LA2XPA) Langveien 61 6510 Kristiansund Norway +47 91663050 --000000000000ccf25b057b5669b3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tnx Paul for trying so hard to complete our qso!
I rea= lly try hard also but qsb was not playing with us.
I followed you= r signal for quite some time, but had to go to bed since I had a workday in= front of me.

I am in the middle of testing a new = tx antenna, a 1/2 wave antenna ala VK4YB.=C2=A0
It is very promis= ing but the direction at the moment is not optimal - about 270deg. This nee= d to be changed
to about 300deg or even more to the north. My bes= t beverage at the moment is pointing to 315deg, clearly better than my 290d= eg beverage.
The hamspots and the PSK reporter reports is from th= e 315deg beverage, usually about 10dB better than my 1/2wave, but I had=C2= =A0
no problem reading you all the time on the tx antenna the 1/2= wave.
At the moment I am remoting the whole setup so I wont be b= ack to my qth before early next week for doing the necessary changes.
=

I will try again this night.
BTW:=C2=A0 Your = signal was really impressive, my best report was -6dB! on the 315deg bev

GL

Rolf LA2XPA


Den fre. 23. nov. 2018 kl. 14:04 skrev N1BUG <paul@n1bug.com>:
I= spent the last 6 nights making QSOs on 630 meters. While it has
been interesting and at times fun, it has also been very frustrating.

Many QSO opportunities were lost due to people calling split. WHY?
Perhaps it can be a useful technique for some, but most callers far
removed from my frequency end up buried in RFI and in some cases
mingled with another QSO attempt. Most of the band is badly trashed
by RFI here, but I almost always have one or two nice clean slots of
40 to 80 Hz width. When calling CQ I try to get as close as I can to
the center of a clean area, hoping people will take the hint and
call on or near my frequency. Many don't. According to third party
reports I had many callers whom I never had a chance to decode
because of this.

I did work 5 new states bringing my total to 22. I only made one DX
QSO with G3KEV. Thanks Mal for using good sense and calling me simplex!

Last night I returned to the shack after a break to see several CQ
sequences from LA2XPA with SNR to -23 dB. It appeared he had
stopped, so I called CQ and almost immediately received a call from
LA2XPA. Unfortunately QSB set in and though I could see him on the
waterfall for two periods after that, nothing decoded. He was
calling split and ended up uncomfortably close to a strong U.S.
station who was attempting to complete a QSO. I continued for nearly
3 hours hoping he would try to call me again, but despite his
station giving me reports (via hamspots and PSK Reporter) up to -8 I
never saw him call again. I am very sorry to have lost this QSO.

I am returning to 2200 meters now. I can change bands somewhat
easier than last year but it still requires nasty fiddling with
wires and coax outside in the cold and snow. I will make a 630m
appearance from time to time.

73,
Paul N1BUG
FN55mf



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Rolf Torvik (= LA2XPA)
Langveien 61
6510 Kristiansund
Norway
+47 91663050
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