Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id wALERG4c001568 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2018 15:27:17 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1gPTPT-0003kx-7v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2018 14:23:19 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1gPTPS-0003kj-TA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2018 14:23:18 +0000 Received: from mail-ed1-x52a.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::52a]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91_59-0488984) (envelope-from ) id 1gPTPQ-0001z1-TS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2018 14:23:17 +0000 Received: by mail-ed1-x52a.google.com with SMTP id f23so5041223edb.3 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2018 06:23:16 -0800 (PST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=FJw4k7jIuyLbw9rNS7wtjmE8x5qW2GZHuwN8sCgqTws=; b=mmo8pqoaeSRcgwzju2O4m44n1Dx7QC8Bl+6CNA6SFCCycPHIIiPjGhilTfwlbT/i8W cpeo3MdbOkzZvEQ/ih5MYS1oL/AtUYmUGXveLFpCLBXu91wtn9G5hiJ8YriWERA8mk40 t5PDWBiNkW6l62AJIteFL0Lu4tBZZ7FsU9PKstw8sJYaVNluHPLzsAyvbs/0PUdSjnXt 9J4ug7c1N/a27Ous/w/CbYgp+nLm2BnMiECd3atVjtqE8Q9hrcNl98Dmye/NtDkXUhtG C/mtjwWjWkR3Gwrn6eorYUn5t+VkhiElt1Agd1Cz5eXz2JJleI8z8GCeNPL0aSY3FQQb 204w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=FJw4k7jIuyLbw9rNS7wtjmE8x5qW2GZHuwN8sCgqTws=; b=g02t2XMg1bOHmMl135fQA6zROjRCPk/Vz0LMwAppHFARHg0dFgAKVXHvDNA6/A4luE VnXX1PzCXcmI3QKSk/f8a27Jv7vlCJNMo6iZ90HW4Ci2fmAnFotWpJzp5K9KchzzINsL HufUWljrmDSyi19NJoEYoZ6zCBDjjPqVWcXl2OArSInjwDMxD0gjWF7JdIJNvtLCbbr5 YBFic36EmrDVBwuzyWruELKQq9MFN6W/5FQlVjYe7xu/fOFwfXetKn1/5DndFyQH8BM9 NmX0Sjb/0YFj9LDVhKJKcmVajWQx6FlkFGavx5dqFIOkxyMxnnzeF0Jr8O3dn2YuT+lq 4UzA== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWbG6XWYFXkBoU6jaYXbwgRDRcq2PqgYKgKCwnCt751FLeAECYzJ 8xD121zjwM7gx86Q9OTDZqQS1OZps5lPaGztqOsRpcFX X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/UD9Fzd8bSG0JyeKl+lb6+UsF/0AbCk6YBAf+yeMFltfaHZykyhNIRahdUqN9YoVM17qic2TkIe9LpuLCJSvwk= X-Received: by 2002:a50:9784:: with SMTP id e4mr5826951edb.165.1542810195743; Wed, 21 Nov 2018 06:23:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6DB8451D7F3D3947A5918808A59621EA14E200EB@servigilant.vigilant.local> <5BF556E7.2010606@posteo.de> <1058403118.20181121134022@gmail.com> <5BF5667D.3030406@posteo.de> In-Reply-To: <5BF5667D.3030406@posteo.de> From: Andy Talbot Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 14:23:04 +0000 Message-ID: To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Contragulations, That is the ONLY other design I have seen for a LF amplifier using directly rectified mains. apart from my own half-bridge version http://g4jnt.com/137tx.pdf After building that, I al [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [2a00:1450:4864:20:0:0:0:52a listed in] [list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (andy.g4jnt[at]gmail.com) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 9be3f060697a097db7a337109fbeece1 Subject: Re: LF: On air again in LF WSPR-15 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ac56db057b2d7dad" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false --000000000000ac56db057b2d7dad Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Contragulations, That is the ONLY other design I have seen for a LF amplifier using directly rectified mains. apart from my own half-bridge version http://g4jnt.com/137tx.pdf After building that, I always intended doing a full bridge one, but never got round to it - was a bit scared I suspect, and back then FETs were more expensive than they are now. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 at 14:10, DK7FC wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Yes i published it on Dropbox a few years ago but i think the link > doesn't work any more. I attach the two images here, the size is small > enough. > > 73, Stefan > > Am 21.11.2018 14:40, schrieb Chris Wilson: > > > > Hello DK7FC, > > > > Is the H bridge amp a published design Stefan, and if not, would you > > consider posting it please? :) > > > > Wednesday, November 21, 2018, 1:00:23 PM, you wrote: > > > > > >> > >> Hi Luis, > >> > >> thanks for the nice readably summary report. > >> Oh yes it was an impressing night and good resultsfor us. I saw > >> you were decoded at SM2DJK which is a good distance, and R7NT was > >> seen at 2E0ILY. There are more challenges like the path from EB8ARZ > >> to SM2DJK, that would be about 4000 km and still inside the continent. > >> I also thought about LU8YD but also about PY2PLL. > >> EB8ARZ has the perfect RX location, so if LU8YD would transmit on > >> LF, like in the past, it could work in WSPR-15 just before the sunrise > in EA8. > >> > >> About the MOSFET discussion, i'm using IRFP460A types in H bridge > >> configurations from SLF to MF, i.e. the full spectrum :-) Bridge > >> voltage is 320 V DC, the rectified mains voltage. > >> With the currently pair (4 pcs) of FETs i'm TXing since hundreds > >> of hours on LF without problems. They are of course in TO-247 design > >> and cost just 2.2 EUR, so a BANG/year wouldn't really hurt. > >> > >> 73, Stefan > >> > > > > > --000000000000ac56db057b2d7dad Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Contragulations,=C2=A0 That is = the ONLY other design I have seen for a LF amplifier using directly rectifi= ed mains. apart from my own half-bridge version=C2=A0http://g4jnt.com/137tx.pdf=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0After bu= ilding that, I always intended doing a full bridge one, but never got round= to it - was a bit scared I suspect, and back then FETs were more expensive= than they are now.


On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 at 14:10, DK7FC <selberdenken@posteo.de> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Chris,

Yes i published it on Dropbox a few years ago but i think the link
doesn't work any more. I attach the two images here, the size is small =
enough.

73, Stefan

Am 21.11.2018 14:40, schrieb Chris Wilson:
>
> Hello DK7FC,
>
> Is=C2=A0 the=C2=A0 H bridge amp a published design Stefan, and if not,= would you
> consider posting it please? :)
>
> Wednesday, November 21, 2018, 1:00:23 PM, you wrote:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Hi Luis,
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0thanks for the nice readably summary report.
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Oh yes it was an impressing night and good resultsfor = us. I saw
>> you were decoded at SM2DJK which is a good distance, and R7NT was<= br> >> seen at 2E0ILY. There are more challenges like the path from EB8AR= Z
>> to SM2DJK, that would be about 4000 km and still inside the contin= ent.
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0I also thought about LU8YD but also about PY2PLL.
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0EB8ARZ has the perfect RX location, so if LU8YD would = transmit on
>> LF, like in the past, it could work in WSPR-15 just before the sun= rise in EA8.
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0About the MOSFET discussion, i'm using IRFP460A ty= pes in H bridge
>> configurations from SLF to MF, i.e. the full spectrum :-) Bridge >> voltage is 320 V DC, the rectified mains voltage.
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0With the currently pair (4 pcs) of FETs i'm TXing = since hundreds
>> of hours on LF without problems. They are of course in TO-247 desi= gn
>> and cost just 2.2 EUR, so a BANG/year wouldn't really hurt. >>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A073, Stefan
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0
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