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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Nope, Rik. I had thought of that and it's set to maximum Just tested on my Desktop, and exactly the same problem. No audio from the default speakers. So that's two PCs of different makes . Win versions with teh same problem Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [2a00:1450:4864:20:0:0:0:536 listed in] [list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (andy.g4jnt[at]gmail.com) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 61bef6b4a633d435cac5ff7820137883 Subject: Re: LF: SlowJT9 update (v0.9.10) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000092c857057b19b7c3" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false --00000000000092c857057b19b7c3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Nope, Rik. I had thought of that and it's set to maximum Just tested on my Desktop, and exactly the same problem. No audio from the default speakers. So that's two PCs of different makes . Win versions with teh same problem I also tried an external USB soundcard and directed the audio out to that. Also so sound (RH slider to max) I am getting some irregular clicks occasionally, on the USB soundcard, and that also happened on the laptop once or twice Andy www.g4jnt.com On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 at 14:34, Rik Strobbe wrote: > Hello Andy, > > > the "power level" slider (at the right) is initially set to zero. Maybe > that is the reason for no audio. > > I agree that this is confusing, but I have done this for safety reasons (I > don't want have any transmitter "blown" because of a too high audio level). > > > 73, Rik ON7YD > > > ------------------------------ > *Van:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org < > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> namens Andy Talbot < > andy.g4jnt@gmail.com> > *Verzonden:* dinsdag 20 november 2018 15:24 > *Aan:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *CC:* rsgb_lf_group > *Onderwerp:* Re: LF: SlowJT9 update (v0.9.10) > > Rik > > I just tried installing this 0.9.10 version on my Dell Inspiron laptop > Win-10. I set the soundcard correctly to "Speakers / Headphones" and Tx > tone to 1200Hz , hit enable Tx then the 'Tune' button. It shows as > transmitting but there's no audio tone. WSJT-X and other datacomms > packages are working fine, both before and after trying > > Normally don't get any issues like this with the default (the only) > soundcard present. > > I'll test on my other two PCs, an HP Desktop with Win 7 and HP Notebook > > On a different matter, I'll be writing this up in the next RadCom "Data" > column (February's) Could you summarise the baud rates and frequency > shifts finally settled. There has been so much discussion and changes I > lost track and haven't followed the latest version > > Andy > www.g4jnt.com > > > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 at 13:50, Rik Strobbe wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> >> I just uploaded a now beta-release of SlowJT9 (v0.9.10). >> >> The changes are >> >> >> - JT9-2 and JT9-5 parameters changed to the original ones. The slightly >> slower baudrates make better advance of the transmission cycle. In theory >> this should improve S/N by 0.46 dB for JT9-2 and 0.74 dB for JT9-5. >> *Be aware that due to the baudrate changes there is NO BACKWARD >> COMPATIBILITY for JT9-2 and JT9-5. * >> *In other words: JT9-2 and JT9-5 send with v0.9.10 cannot be decoded with >> prior versions (v0.9.00 - v0.9.03) and vice versa.* >> >> The JT9-1 mode however is still the same and can be sent / received with >> all versions (and is WSJT-X compatible). >> >> >> - JT9-10 mode (10 minute cycle) added, for the fearless. >> >> >> I briefly tested v0.9.10 for in JT9-2 mode and it seems to decode (at >> least) at the same level as for the previous versions. But to determine a >> difference of 0.4dB, more extensive tests are needed. >> >> *The sole purpose of this version is to determine how JT9-2, and >> eventually JT9-5, behave in relation to the previous versions, so we can >> decide wether SlowJT9 will proceed with the original parameters (anno >> 2013) that imply an odd baudrate ratio between the JT9 submodes or my >> previous parameters, with "round number" ratios. * >> >> *Therefore all test reports, remarks, suggestions and opinions are most >> welcome.* >> >> For the same reason no other changes are applied. >> >> >> Whoever is interested can download the SlowJT9 installation file at >> http://472khz.org/SlowJT9/SlowJT9_setup.exe. >> >> >> For now only a Windows version of SlowJT9 is available. But as the used >> IDE has cross platform facilities it should be possible to support other >> operating systems as well in the future. >> >> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --00000000000092c857057b19b7c3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nope, Rik.=C2=A0 I had thought=C2=A0 of that and= it's set to maximum

Just tested on = my Desktop, and exactly the same problem.=C2=A0 No audio from the default s= peakers.=C2=A0 =C2=A0So that's two PCs of different makes . Win version= s with teh same problem

I also tried an = external USB soundcard and directed the audio out to that.=C2=A0 Also so so= und (RH slider to max)=C2=A0

I am gettin= g some irregular clicks occasionally, on the USB soundcard, and that also h= appened on the laptop once or twice


=


On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 at 14:34, Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@kuleuven.be> wrote:

Hello Andy,


the "power level" slider (at the right) is initially set to ze= ro. Maybe that is the reason for no audio.

I agree that this is confusing, but I have done this for safety reasons = (I don't want have any transmitter "blown" because of a too h= igh audio level).


73, Rik=C2=A0 ON7YD


Van: <= a href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" target=3D"_blank">owne= r-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org <owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&= gt; namens Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@gmail.com>
Verzonden: dinsdag 20 november 2018 15:24
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
CC: rsgb_lf_group
Onderwerp: Re: LF: SlowJT9 update (v0.9.10)
=C2=A0
Rik=C2=A0

I just tried installing this 0.9.10 version=C2=A0 on my Dell Inspiron lapto= p Win-10.=C2=A0 I set the soundcard correctly to=C2=A0 "Speakers / Hea= dphones" and Tx tone to 1200Hz ,=C2=A0 hit enable Tx then=C2=A0 the &#= 39;Tune' button.=C2=A0 =C2=A0It shows as transmitting but there's n= o audio tone.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0WSJT-X and other datacomms packages are working fine, both be= fore and after trying

Normally don't get any issues like this with the default (the only) sou= ndcard present.

I'll test on my other two PCs,=C2=A0 an HP Desktop with Win 7 and HP No= tebook

On a different matter, I'll be writing this up in the next RadCom "= ;Data" column (February's)=C2=A0 =C2=A0Could you summarise the bau= d rates and frequency shifts finally settled.=C2=A0 =C2=A0There has been so= much discussion and changes I lost track and haven't followed the late= st version
=C2=A0


On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 at 13:50, Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@kuleuven.be> wrote:

Dear all,


I just uploaded a now beta-release of SlowJT9 (v0.9.10).

The changes=C2=A0are


-=C2=A0JT9-2 and JT9-5 parameters changed to the original ones. The slightly s= lower baudrates make better advance of the transmission cycle. In theory th= is should improve S/N by 0.46 dB for JT9-2 and 0.74 dB for JT9-5.

In other words: JT9-2 and JT9-5 send with v0.9.10 cannot be decoded = with prior versions (v0.9.00 - v0.9.03) and vice versa.

The=C2=A0JT9-1=C2=A0mode however is still the same and can be sent=C2=A0= / received with all versions (and is WSJT-X compatible).


- JT9-10 mode (10 minute cycle)=C2=A0added,=C2=A0for the fearless.


I=C2=A0briefly=C2=A0tested v0.9.10 for in=C2=A0JT9-2 mode and it seems t= o decode (at least) at the same level as=C2=A0for the previous versions.=C2= =A0But to determine a difference of 0.4dB, more extensive tests are needed.=

The sole purpose of this version is to determine how JT9-2, and = eventually=C2=A0JT9-5, behave=C2=A0in relation to the previous versions, so= we can decide wether SlowJT9 will proceed with the original parameters=C2= =A0(anno 2013)=C2=A0that imply an odd baudrate=C2=A0ratio between the JT9 submodes or my previous parameters, with "round numbe= r" ratios.=C2=A0

Therefore all test reports, remarks, suggestions and opinions=C2= =A0are most welcome.

For the same reason no other changes are=C2=A0applied.


Whoever is interested can download the SlowJT9=C2=A0installation file=C2= =A0at=C2=A0http://472khz.org/SlowJT9/SlowJT9_setup.exe.


For now only a Windows version of=C2=A0SlowJT9=C2=A0is available. But as= the used IDE has cross platform facilities it should be possible to suppor= t other operating systems as well in the future.


73, Rik=C2=A0 ON7YD - OR7T






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