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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Jim I am not aware of a member called pdseng.com, but as I have explained before we have not admin access to the blacksheep group. People can subscribe and unsubscribe. If someone subscribes then changes their address distributed mail will bounce. This used to be silent but the bounce message is intercepted and fired back at the sender with adds. The company (noconnection to groups.io it seems) has been advised they do not have authority to intercept messages not address to them and they are committing a criminal offence. Of course they take no notice. I have not seen one of these messages for a while. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [65.20.0.206 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 9b15d9defc5ae6fa811529a4cbe8c306 Subject: LF: Re: bounceio Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0087_01D4786C.E3DF72A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_60_70, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0087_01D4786C.E3DF72A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim I am not aware of a member called pdseng.com, but as I have = explained before we have not admin access to the blacksheep group. = People can subscribe and unsubscribe. If someone subscribes then changes = their address distributed mail will bounce. This used to be silent but = the bounce message is intercepted and fired back at the sender with = adds. The company (noconnection to groups.io it seems) has been advised = they do not have authority to intercept messages not address to them and = they are committing a criminal offence. Of course they take no notice. I = have not seen one of these messages for a while. Best Wishes Alan G3NYK (Moderator of the Yahoo Group) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Markus Vester=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 8:17 PM Subject: LF: bounceio Yes Jim I'm also getting those silly "betterbounces" replies. Looks to = me like an ad-financed undertaking have hijacked some no-longer existing = email address. Just ignore and delete them.=20 Best 73, Markus -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- Von: hvanesce An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Fr, 9. Nov. 2018 20:56 Betreff: RE: LF: 1476 kHz AM Markus, Thank you, I=E2=80=99ll deploy an antenna tomorrow, and run continuous = capture, and post-process in Matlab to find and preserve sync with the = transmitter=E2=80=99s OCXO-locked ~ 1 kHz tones.=20 A different topic:=20 The last two messages that I=E2=80=99ve sent to = rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org (one two weeks ago, and one today) yielded = messages from postmaster@pdsengr-com.bounceio.net saying: =E2=80=9CYour email was bounced...=E2=80=9D =E2=80=A6but both messages actually were delivered without delay to = rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org.=20 Any thoughts on why I received bounce alerts when the messages = didn=E2=80=99t bounce? The bounce alert message also said =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6your specific = problem was a 5.1.2 error. The domain you attempted to contact, = pdsengr.com, may have expired.=E2=80=9D =20 73, Jim AA5BW ... ------=_NextPart_000_0087_01D4786C.E3DF72A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Jim I am not aware of a member called = pdseng.com,=20 but as I have explained before we have not admin access to the = blacksheep group.=20 People can subscribe and unsubscribe. If someone subscribes then changes = their=20 address distributed mail will bounce. This used to be silent but the = bounce=20 message is intercepted and fired back at the sender with adds. The = company=20 (noconnection to groups.io it seems) has been advised they do not have = authority=20 to intercept messages not address to them and they are committing a = criminal=20 offence. Of course they take no notice. I have not seen one of these = messages=20 for a while.
 
Best Wishes
Alan
G3NYK
(Moderator of the Yahoo = Group)
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Markus=20 Vester
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 = 8:17=20 PM
Subject: LF: bounceio

Yes Jim I'm also getting those silly "betterbounces"=20 replies. Looks to me like an ad-financed undertaking have = hijacked some=20 no-longer existing email address. Just ignore and delete = them. 
Best 73,
Markus

-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche=20 Mitteilung-----
Von: hvanesce <hvanesce@comcast.net>An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= >Verschickt: Fr, 9. Nov. 2018 20:56
Betreff: = RE: LF:=20 1476 kHz AM

Markus,

 

Thank you, I=E2=80=99ll deploy an antenna tomorrow, and = run continuous=20 capture, and post-process in Matlab to find and preserve sync with the = transmitter=E2=80=99s OCXO-locked ~ 1 kHz tones.

 

 

A different topic:

The last two messages that I=E2=80=99ve sent to = rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 (one two weeks ago, and one today) yielded messages from postmaster@pdsengr-com.bounceio.net=20 saying:

=E2=80=9CYour email was bounced...=E2=80=9D

=E2=80=A6but both messages actually were delivered without = delay to=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org.

Any thoughts on why I received bounce alerts when the = messages=20 didn=E2=80=99t bounce?

The bounce alert message also said =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6your = specific problem was a=20 5.1.2 error. The domain you attempted to contact, pdsengr.com, may have expired.=E2=80=9D =  

 

73,

 

Jim=20 AA5BW
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