Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id wA8J1V3M030093 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 20:01:37 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1gKpUD-0003mN-M9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2018 18:57:01 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1gKpUB-0003mE-GK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2018 18:56:59 +0000 Received: from out2-22.antispamcloud.com ([185.201.17.22]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91_59-0488984) (envelope-from ) id 1gKpU9-0000HS-NB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2018 18:56:58 +0000 Received: from 132.178.216.87.static.jazztel.es ([87.216.178.132] helo=servigilant.vigilant.es) by mx65.antispamcloud.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gKpU5-0002Y2-HB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2018 19:56:54 +0100 Received: from servigilant.vigilant.local ([fe80::c40d:8140:d722:5448]) by servigilant.vigilant.local ([fe80::c40d:8140:d722:5448%13]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 19:56:50 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?VIGILANT_Luis_Fern=E1ndez?= To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Thread-Topic: Previous "historic" QSOs in 2200 to 600m bands Thread-Index: AdR3kq8Zkq4rJCUrSpCmhuyLOQNBMg== Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 18:56:49 +0000 Message-ID: <6DB8451D7F3D3947A5918808A59621EA14E18C1D@servigilant.vigilant.local> Accept-Language: es-ES, en-US Content-Language: es-ES X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [95.17.49.122] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 87.216.178.132 X-Spampanel-Domain: vigilant.es X-Spampanel-Username: smtpsolarwinds Authentication-Results: antispamcloud.com; auth=pass (login) smtp.auth=smtpsolarwinds@vigilant.es X-Spampanel-Outgoing-Class: ham X-Spampanel-Outgoing-Evidence: Combined (0.39) X-Recommended-Action: accept X-Filter-ID: EX5BVjFpneJeBchSMxfU5gRQG72I6n5PnjH0odpthrZ602E9L7XzfQH6nu9C/Fh9KJzpNe6xgvOx q3u0UDjvOw5j2C7YKailx2Uop+U2Gs8m9etQhNgzEtWqBtUXOJSHVTGbEWWnE2yTxqfzAQugcWP7 jVAHX0BTrN8J1beyr7dIeZjZv1oz6oWKgngYgisM8DZztKGImYzpwtV2u5AjtnBQSd9z8kxLpW49 gI7LRCD70WuzEeIYESIPDdUJWOBuPxO0jJAHsPdj1H6RNuBO69UiY7asYPU6EDmIL6U134hrlhRy 9ghQC09+4roxsjAtiuHKVLmpZEAjfPZha+Ic1Rhainz7PSJJmCQZ43/albE3jj1fEAhOF4fOhNNh XLQaV/yxnNRxpMoHvjh9VnsYA2tpgbL6dtvgdnBAk6XQF9PdvwaS2NqGlNwxbaIo1roaehPPK3TQ gqi823hp4l6zVI/ynBiLuEnibWyXa+P6Iz/FFqY55gMEjAGvEhbP5bx6KTjECb0PwpN4olPuA0AI 94UgbmtWBJmoqp7PO0jTMcli00UwzfgDzbAcxc1XK4M8aaW9P/etkIRHA9nqTg0UJ/qFfI1h8Q8Y ypWQG7OX2gwlrWpoZ5bSAVkYC3QPyzVCU5qEg9ylGD9Qbq8vJ8BpSNZ35D+9JuVDxXIYcNGxXKYA vetC4UuggeIVAoAJyqSl30xWkSt3x0aIgQx2CswAoGrcN3XVUszTWbd2LX/P3sDwjzU2sTwbmsjJ qGRpg3jI3qFKrkitLQLNx1uqz/2NTPqTqyio5kU0JHs+Bub5EyQhu1/rdU1t/SWu+yxj6TsA26HL fTUz0wPn1sPmFQ+TjLukviHxn3sXkzErzdUXYEWt4CJWRuGc+dFGFHQEJKeHpKe3Rtz3A5tWUpsc 3w60eoOXRI69yeOrkQkGnyuoq9nQfd/MZk1mxjA23elzvLGrA8N3U2xfJ8UeMjx3FmR38gNYPKD9 D/T0h67to7WkkbHAnooMcqVM7GIj9oM3CLUEMS+4ayUpOtEhdxekWDmK9g== X-Report-Abuse-To: spam@quarantine3.antispamcloud.com X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Hi Stefan, LF >Be careful with such claims on LF :-) But maybe you are right. I have no overview. The early LF >operators may know more. >There has been done a LOT on that band in the past. CW was a regular mode and there have >been quite a lot stations on the air [...] Content analysis details: (0.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [185.201.17.22 listed in list.dnswl.org] 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: b707651713bcd4ad9db4bb0f5d794041 Subject: LF: Previous "historic" QSOs in 2200 to 600m bands Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_6DB8451D7F3D3947A5918808A59621EA14E18C1Dservigilantvigi_" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false --_000_6DB8451D7F3D3947A5918808A59621EA14E18C1Dservigilantvigi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stefan, LF >Be careful with such claims on LF :-) But maybe you are right. I have no o= verview. The early LF >operators may know more. >There has been done a LOT on that band in the past. CW was a regular mode = and there have >been quite a lot stations on the air Your comments triggered my curiosity ;-) So I contacted the OM who has the best knowledge of the history of Ham Radi= o in Spain. This is Isidoro, EA4DO, who keeps an amazing historical archieve with lots of documents which are really a legacy for fu= ture generations. Worth to have a look at his QRZ.com He has already sent me a long email with lot of information. Seems that in = the early XX century there were just few experimenters in Spain using spark transmitters. Radio transmission from experimenters was oficial= ly forbiden in 1908 and since then, and specially during 1914 war, any experiment was kept at maximum secret. There could be some ex= ception like the known "L.C.T" station (for Dr. Luis Cirera Terr=E9) who was transmitting between 1400 and 600m. That was close to the frequenci= es used by ships and other services and caused many problems to professional communications. So, ham operators were "condemned"= to use bands of 200m and shorter, which professionals thought were useless= :-) But in Spain, Ham Radio was forbidden untill July 14th 1924 were D.Miguel M= oya got the callsign EAR-1 So.......Plenty of FIRST pending from EA in LF Make a queue gents ! ;-) 73 de Luis EA5DOM --_000_6DB8451D7F3D3947A5918808A59621EA14E18C1Dservigilantvigi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Stefan, LF

>Be = careful with such claims on LF :-) But maybe you are right. I have no overv= iew. The early LF >operators may know more.
>There ha= s been done a LOT on that band in the past. CW was a regular mode and there= have >been quite a lot stations on the air

Your co= mments triggered my curiosity ;-)

So I co= ntacted the OM who has the best knowledge of the history of Ham Radio in Sp= ain. This is Isidoro, EA4DO, who keeps an amazing
histori= cal archieve with lots of documents which are really a legacy for future ge= nerations. Worth to have a look at his QRZ.com

He has = already sent me a long email with lot of information. Seems that in the ear= ly XX century there were just few experimenters in Spain
using s= park transmitters. Radio transmission from experimenters was oficially forb= iden in 1908 and since then, and specially during
1914 wa= r, any experiment was kept at maximum secret. There could be some exception= like the known "L.C.T" station (for Dr. Luis Cirera Terr=E9)
who was= transmitting between 1400 and 600m. That was close to the frequencies used= by ships and other services and caused many
problem= s to professional communications. So, ham operators were "condemned" to use bands of 200m and shorter, whi= ch professionals thought were useless :-)

But in = Spain, Ham Radio was forbidden untill July 14th 1924 were D.Miguel Moya got= the callsign EAR-1

So.....= ..Plenty of FIRST pending from EA in LF
Make a queue gents ! ;-)

73 de Luis
EA5DOM

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