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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: First I want to thank Rik for his work trying to bring back the slow JT9 submodes! I also want to thank everyone who has been helping with tests. I truly believe these modes can be helpful in making l [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [74.208.4.197 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good reputation (+3) [74.208.4.197 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders X-Scan-Signature: c0336009bd9bab526ca27d297ea7579a Subject: LF: Thoughts on SlowJT9 testing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false First I want to thank Rik for his work trying to bring back the slow JT9 submodes! I also want to thank everyone who has been helping with tests. I truly believe these modes can be helpful in making long distance QSOs on MF and LF. But first we have to prove this implementation is working as expected and useful. I think it is difficult to know how well the slower submodes perform with the testing we are doing so far. It is all very subjective. If we could find some stations within daytime range of each other, one of them having the ability to step transmit power in 1 dB steps I think we could do much better in testing. The idea is to start with JT9-1 and enough power to ensure decodes at the receiving station. The transmitting station steps power down in 1 dB increments, allowing a few cycles at each level to check decoding and the receiving station. Keep doing this until decoding stops or becomes intermittent. Record the transmit power. Switch to JT9-2 leaving power the same. If it is now decoding again, keep stepping power down 1 dB at a time until it stops decoding and record that power level. Switch to JT9-5 and do the same thing. I think these tests would need to be done more than one day to ensure results are not affected by propagation or noise level changes. Any volunteers??? I can listen but I cannot control my transmit power accurately enough to be the transmitting station for such tests. *** I am trying to create local tests in a similar manner. I can put a lot of attenuation between my U3S exciter and the transmitting antenna, using the receiving antenna as normal. Yesterday I could get my signal to -27 dB SNR on JT9-1 mode. The problem is I do not have 1 dB steps to test with. I just purchased a pair of step attenuators which I hope will do what I want. It will take some days to receive them and verify the setup works. A lot can go wrong with a setup like this (unintended signal egress / ingress bypassing the controlled attenuation path). Careful evaluation of the setup will be needed. Stay tuned... 73, Paul N1BUG