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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Hi Markus, Congrats to last nights successes! Well, since WSPR-15 is certainly the better mode for LF DX, and the WSPR team is not interested in LF, will you find the motivation to release an updated version of your utilities that enable 64-bit u [...] Content analysis details: (-2.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [185.67.36.65 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 8ac9f0a1bced50a7ada6578ede3fb6ae Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR-15 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030600060901040208030009" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030600060901040208030009 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Markus, Congrats to last nights successes! Well, since WSPR-15 is certainly the better mode for LF DX, and the WSPR team is not interested in LF, will you find the motivation to release an updated version of your utilities that enable 64-bit users to receive WSPR-15 using the latest WSPR-2 decoder? 73, Stefan Am 15.11.2018 00:49, schrieb Markus Vester: > > maybe they don't work on 64 bit machines? > > yes that is the problem. These "tools" are just a simple DOS script. > All the real work is done by the audio utilities from Wolfgang DL4YHF, > which are running fine as ever. But my little > "waitraster.exe" utility, which did nothing but hold the script > until the beginning of a desired minute, will no longer work under Win-64. > > Best 73, > Markus > > -----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung----- > Von: N1BUG > An: rsgb_lf_group > Verschickt: Mi, 14. Nov. 2018 23:03 > Betreff: Re: LF: Re: WSPR-15 > > I am interested in this too, but if I recall there was a reason I > didn't install those tools. I can't remember now... maybe they don't > work on 64 bit machines? If that was it, I am out of luck. > > My WSPR2/WSPR15 transmitting tests last season showed that WSPR15 > was much better than WSPR2... even though most WSPR2 listeners were > using the new improved decoder and WSPR15 listeners were using the > old WSPR-X. > > 73, > Paul > > > On 11/14/18 4:09 PM, jrusgrove@comcast.net > wrote: > > Stefan > > > > Vague memories ... the tools, if they still exist, would be on an > old computer that's not so easy to > > resurrect. > > > > Yes, it seems the current WSPR2 decoder is much improved. Think your > time might be better spent on > > that mode since there are already many listeners. It would be > interesting to see how far west into > > the US you could be decoded on a good night. Just my opinion ;~) . > > > > Jay W1VD > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "DK7FC" > > > To: > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 1:51 PM > > Subject: LF: WSPR-15 > > > > > >> Jay, LF, > >> > >> I already have the next idea, maybe for tomorrow? ;-) > >> > >> You remember the early days before K1JT released WSPR-15. > >> Markus developed the slow-WSPR tools and we (you, as the DX RX > station ) tried WSPR-8 and even > >> WSPR-30 successfully. > >> > >> Using Markus tools, the slowly transmitted WSPR (with accurate FSK > spacing) was accelerated > >> replayed in the next time slot and then fed to the normal WSPR-2 > decoder, beeing connected to the > >> database. > >> > >> Meanwhile the WSPR-2 decoder performance seems to have much > improved. So, it may be interesting to > >> try the 'old' tool of Markus together with the latest WSPR-2 decoder. > >> > >> What do you think? Do you still have the config files and so on? > >> > >> Worth a try? > >> > >> 73, Stefan > >> > >> PS: 137.620 kHz is right in the WSPR-15 defined slot. I think this > is why my coil is resonant > >> there ;-) > --------------030600060901040208030009 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Markus,

Congrats to last nights successes!

Well, since WSPR-15 is certainly the better mode for LF DX, and the WSPR team is not interested in LF, will you find the motivation to release an updated version of your utilities that enable 64-bit users to receive WSPR-15 using the latest WSPR-2 decoder?

73, Stefan



Am 15.11.2018 00:49, schrieb Markus Vester:
> maybe they don't work on 64 bit machines?

yes that is the problem. These "tools" are just a simple DOS script. All the real work is done by the audio utilities from Wolfgang DL4YHF, which are running fine as ever. But my little "waitraster.exe" utility, which did nothing but hold the script until the beginning of a desired minute, will no longer work under Win-64.

Best 73,
Markus

-----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: N1BUG <paul@n1bug.com>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Mi, 14. Nov. 2018 23:03
Betreff: Re: LF: Re: WSPR-15

I am interested in this too, but if I recall there was a reason I
didn't install those tools. I can't remember now... maybe they don't
work on 64 bit machines? If that was it, I am out of luck.

My WSPR2/WSPR15 transmitting tests last season showed that WSPR15
was much better than WSPR2... even though most WSPR2 listeners were
using the new improved decoder and WSPR15 listeners were using the
old WSPR-X.

73,
Paul


On 11/14/18 4:09 PM, jrusgrove@comcast.net wrote:
> Stefan
>
> Vague memories ... the tools, if they still exist, would be on an old computer that's not so easy to
> resurrect.
>
> Yes, it seems the current WSPR2 decoder is much improved. Think your time might be better spent on
> that mode since there are already many listeners. It would be interesting to see how far west into
> the US you could be decoded on a good night. Just my opinion ;~) .
>
> Jay W1VD
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DK7FC" <selberdenken@posteo.de>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 1:51 PM
> Subject: LF: WSPR-15
>
>
>> Jay, LF,
>>
>> I already have the next idea, maybe for tomorrow? ;-)
>>
>> You remember the early days before K1JT released WSPR-15.
>> Markus developed the slow-WSPR tools and we (you, as the DX RX station ) tried WSPR-8 and even
>> WSPR-30 successfully.
>>
>> Using Markus tools, the slowly transmitted WSPR (with accurate FSK spacing) was accelerated
>> replayed in the next time slot and then fed to the normal WSPR-2 decoder, beeing connected to the
>> database.
>>
>> Meanwhile the WSPR-2 decoder performance seems to have much improved. So, it may be interesting to
>> try the 'old' tool of Markus together with the latest WSPR-2 decoder.
>>
>> What do you think? Do you still have the config files and so on?
>>
>> Worth a try?
>>
>> 73, Stefan
>>
>> PS: 137.620 kHz is right in the WSPR-15 defined slot. I think this is why my coil is resonant
>> there ;-)

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