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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Hi Jay, Thanks for the decodes and the efforts. A pity about the other stations outside the bandwidth but anyway it was nice to see 4 EbNaut stations side by side! Maybe the other stations catched something.. [...] Content analysis details: (-2.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [185.67.36.66 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 94b4899eb522d3cd83a8c4d63d16b91e Subject: Re: LF: Re: LF EbNaut tonite Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060406090001040008060900" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_BODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060406090001040008060900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Jay, Thanks for the decodes and the efforts. A pity about the other stations outside the bandwidth but anyway it was nice to see 4 EbNaut stations side by side! Maybe the other stations catched something... Anyway it seems the conds have not been good at all. Is the 180,180,180,180 result the final decoder result or did you take a capture right after the message appeared the first time? If the phase is that stable, it must have been the SNR, i.e. high noise levels and/or a lossy path. If i can find the time today, i may add some turn on the coil and come back on 136.172 kHz for some DFCW, like in the good old days :-) Then the QSB and phase variations doesn't matter and it is also a chance for Pauls new grabber. Or, some tests with JT9-5. But it seems to be hard to transfer 13 characters in 5 minutes these days. Looks like i need a real coil again! 73, Stefan Am 14.11.2018 05:25, schrieb jrusgrove@comcast.net: > Stefan > The 0000Z transmission (first one captured tonight) was best this > evening ... copy below. Similar copy on 0100Z transmission, no copy on > 0200Z and 1.8 dB Eb/N0 on 0300Z. > Marcus and Domenico ... unfortunately just noticed that the setup > didn't have sufficient bandwidth to include your frequency. > Jay W1VD > > *----- Original Message -----* > *From:* DK7FC > > *Reply-To:* > > *To:* > > *Sent:* 11/13/2018 3:46:16 PM > *Subject:* Re: LF: Re: LF EbNaut tonite > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Hi Jay, > > Am 13.11.2018 21:31, schrieb jrusgrove@comcast.net: >> Stefan >> Did you announce your intentions for tonight's EbNaut >> transmission ... if so, I must have missed it. >> Jay W1VD > Yes: > > *f = 137.620 kHz > Start time: 13.NOV.2018 21:00 UTC (hourly, until including 6 UTC) > Symbol period: 3 s > Characters: 5 > CRC bits:** 16** > Coding 8K21A (!) > Antenna current: 4 A > Duration: 26:24 [mm:ss] > > *From my todays email of 9:21 UTC. > > 73, Stefan > --------------060406090001040008060900 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------040005020404000408080600" --------------040005020404000408080600 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Jay,

Thanks for the decodes and the efforts.
A pity about the other stations outside the bandwidth but anyway it was nice to see 4 EbNaut stations side by side! Maybe the other stations catched something...
Anyway it seems the conds have not been good at all. Is the 180,180,180,180 result the final decoder result or did you take a capture right after the message appeared the first time?
If the phase is that stable, it must have been the SNR, i.e. high noise levels and/or a lossy path.

If i can find the time today, i may add some turn on the coil and come back on 136.172 kHz for some DFCW, like in the good old days :-) Then the QSB and phase variations doesn't matter and it is also a chance for Pauls new grabber.
Or, some tests with JT9-5. But it seems to be hard to transfer 13 characters in 5 minutes these days. Looks like i need a real coil again!

73, Stefan

Am 14.11.2018 05:25, schrieb jrusgrove@comcast.net:
Stefan
 
The 0000Z transmission (first one captured tonight) was best this evening ... copy below. Similar copy on 0100Z transmission, no copy on 0200Z and 1.8 dB Eb/N0 on 0300Z.
 
Marcus and Domenico ... unfortunately just noticed that the setup didn't have sufficient bandwidth to include your frequency. 
 
 
Jay W1VD  
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 11/13/2018 3:46:16 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: LF EbNaut tonite
Hi Jay,

Am 13.11.2018 21:31, schrieb jrusgrove@comcast.net:
Stefan
 
Did you announce your intentions for tonight's EbNaut transmission ... if so, I must have missed it.
 
Jay W1VD
Yes:

f = 137.620 kHz
Start time: 13.NOV.2018  21:00 UTC (hourly, until including 6 UTC)
Symbol period: 3 s
Characters: 5
CRC bits: 16
Coding 8K21A (!)
Antenna current: 4 A
Duration: 26:24 [mm:ss]

From my todays email of 9:21 UTC.

73, Stefan
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