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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: > maybe they don't work on 64 bit machines? yes that is the problem. These "tools" are just a simple DOS script. All the real work is done by the audio utilities from Wolfgang DL4YHF, which are running fine as ever. But my little "waitraster [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [74.6.134.124 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (markusvester[at]aol.com) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: e51657317b06d9cbe905ec682fad6602 Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR-15 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_736143_1229616380.1542239392262" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ------=_Part_736143_1229616380.1542239392262 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > maybe they don't work on 64 bit machines? yes that is the problem. These "tools" are just a simple DOS script. All th= e real work is done=C2=A0by the audio utilities from Wolfgang DL4YHF, which= are running fine as ever.=C2=A0But=C2=A0my little "waitraster.exe"=C2=A0ut= ility, which did nothing but hold the script until=C2=A0the beginning of a = desired minute,=C2=A0will no longer work under Win-64. Best 73, Markus -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- Von: N1BUG An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Mi, 14. Nov. 2018 23:03 Betreff: Re: LF: Re: WSPR-15 I am interested in this too, but if I recall there was a reason I didn't install those tools. I can't remember now... maybe they don't work on 64 bit machines? If that was it, I am out of luck. My WSPR2/WSPR15 transmitting tests last season showed that WSPR15 was much better than WSPR2... even though most WSPR2 listeners were using the new improved decoder and WSPR15 listeners were using the old WSPR-X. 73, Paul On 11/14/18 4:09 PM, jrusgrove@comcast.net wrote: > Stefan >=20 > Vague memories ... the tools, if they still exist, would be on an old com= puter that's not so easy to=20 > resurrect. >=20 > Yes, it seems the current WSPR2 decoder is much improved. Think your time= might be better spent on=20 > that mode since there are already many listeners. It would be interesting= to see how far west into=20 > the US you could be decoded on a good night. Just my opinion ;~) . >=20 > Jay W1VD >=20 >=20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "DK7FC" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 1:51 PM > Subject: LF: WSPR-15 >=20 >=20 >> Jay, LF, >> >> I already have the next idea, maybe for tomorrow? ;-) >> >> You remember the early days before K1JT released WSPR-15. >> Markus developed the slow-WSPR tools and we (you, as the DX RX station )= tried WSPR-8 and even=20 >> WSPR-30 successfully. >> >> Using Markus tools, the slowly transmitted WSPR (with accurate FSK spaci= ng) was accelerated=20 >> replayed in the next time slot and then fed to the normal WSPR-2 decoder= , beeing connected to the=20 >> database. >> >> Meanwhile the WSPR-2 decoder performance seems to have much improved. So= , it may be interesting to=20 >> try the 'old' tool of Markus together with the latest WSPR-2 decoder. >> >> What do you think? Do you still have the config files and so on? >> >> Worth a try? >> >> 73, Stefan >> >> PS: 137.620 kHz is right in the WSPR-15 defined slot. I think this is wh= y my coil is resonant=20 >> there ;-) ------=_Part_736143_1229616380.1542239392262 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> maybe they don't work on 64 bit machin= es?

yes that is the problem. These "tools" are just a s= imple DOS script. All the real work is done by the audio utilities fro= m Wolfgang DL4YHF, which are running fine as ever. But my little = "waitraster.exe" utility, which did nothing but hold the script until&= nbsp;the beginning of a desired minute, will no longer work under Win-= 64.

Best 73,
Markus

-----Urspr= =C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: N1BUG <paul@n1bug.com= >
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>=
Verschickt: Mi, 14. Nov. 2018 23:03
Betref= f: Re: LF: Re: WSPR-15

I am interested in this too, but if I recall there was a r= eason I
didn't install those tools. I can't = remember now... maybe they don't
work on 64 = bit machines? If that was it, I am out of luck.

My WSPR2/WSPR15 transmitting tests last= season showed that WSPR15
was much better t= han WSPR2... even though most WSPR2 listeners were
using the new improved decoder and WSPR15 listeners were using theold WSPR-X.
73,
Paul


= On 11/14/18 4:09 PM, jrusgrove@comcast.net wrote:
&g= t; Stefan
>
> Vague memories ... the tools, if they still exist, would be on an o= ld computer that's not so easy to
> resu= rrect.
>
= > Yes, it seems the current WSPR2 decoder is much improved. Think your t= ime might be better spent on
> that mode= since there are already many listeners. It would be interesting to see how= far west into
> the US you could be dec= oded on a good night. Just my opinion ;~) .
= >
> Jay W1VD
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>= ; From: "DK7FC" <selberdenken@posteo.de>
>= ; To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 1:51 PM
> Subject: LF: WSPR-15
> >
>> = Jay, LF,
>>
>> I already have the next idea, maybe for tomorrow? ;-)
>>
>> Yo= u remember the early days before K1JT released WSPR-15.
>> Markus developed the slow-WSPR tools and we (you, as t= he DX RX station ) tried WSPR-8 and even
&g= t;> WSPR-30 successfully.
>>
>> Using Markus tools, the slowly transmitte= d WSPR (with accurate FSK spacing) was accelerated
>> replayed in the next time slot and then fed to the norma= l WSPR-2 decoder, beeing connected to the
&= gt;> database.
>>
>> Meanwhile the WSPR-2 decoder performance seems to ha= ve much improved. So, it may be interesting to
>> try the 'old' tool of Markus together with the latest WSPR-2 d= ecoder.
>>
>> What do you think? Do you still have the config files and so o= n?
>>
&= gt;> Worth a try?
>>
>> 73, Stefan
>>= ;
>> PS: 137.620 kHz is right in the W= SPR-15 defined slot. I think this is why my coil is resonant
>> there ;-)

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