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Content preview: Hi Mauro, the link is still the same:http://472khz.org/SlowJT9/SlowJT9_setup.exe? 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [2a02:2c40:0:c0:0:0:25:129 listed in] [list.dnswl.org] -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: eaf2c94dead786101818a7a2aa96a4c4 Subject: Re: Re: LF: SlowJT9 v0.9.02 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_154205995708631226kuleuvenbe_" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false --_000_154205995708631226kuleuvenbe_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mauro, the link is still the same:http://472khz.org/SlowJT9/SlowJT9_setup.exe? 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T ________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org namens Mauro Giroletti Verzonden: maandag 12 november 2018 22:52 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: R: Re: LF: SlowJT9 v0.9.02 Hi , i'm sorry link for download SlowJT9 v0.9.02 Thanks Mauro I2-1510 -Ik2 GFT ----Messaggio originale---- Da: rik.strobbe@kuleuven.be Data: 12-nov-2018 22.00 A: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Ogg: Re: LF: SlowJT9 v0.9.02 ? Hello Eric, all, arecord -c 1 -r 12000 -f S16_LE capture.wav sox capture.wav capture_tmp.wav speed 2.0 jt9 -9 -d 3 -S 300 capture_tmp.wav cat decoded.txt That is amost exactly what I am doing in SlowJT9, just in a more fancy (use= r friendly) way ;-) Does the speeding-up includes averaging ? 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T ________________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org namens Eric NO3M Verzonden: maandag 12 november 2018 21:42 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: SlowJT9 v0.9.02 Paul, et.al. Correct, the original timings were fit into a "window" vs. simple scaling. Since the slowJT exe wouldn't run in WINE, I just ran a few commands to decode K5DNL: arecord -c 1 -r 12000 -f S16_LE capture.wav sox capture.wav capture_tmp.wav speed 2.0 jt9 -9 -d 3 -S 300 capture_tmp.wav cat decoded.txt decoded.txt: 0000 1 -26 0.1 2400. 1 VVV DE K5DNL JT9 jt9 is the standard executable decoder from WSJTX v1.9.1. 73 Eric NO3M On 11/12/18 3:12 PM, N1BUG wrote: > Eric brings up a good point. Forget what I said the other day about > beaconing with a U3S to be received by SlowJT9. I believe that won't > work because the U3S uses the original JT9-2, -5, -10, -30 symbol > lengths which are different. > > Probably (a guess) in the original, symbol lengths were chosen to > fill as much of the period as possible while leaving enough time at > the end for decoding. I would further guess there were specific > decoders for each submode, or one decoder whose parameters could be > modified for the current submode. > > 73, > Paul N1BUG > > > On 11/12/18 2:47 PM, Rik Strobbe wrote: >> Hello Eric, >> >> >> yes, a scale factor of 2 and 5 is used. >> >> I hadn't any information about the old JT9-2 and JT9-5 modes and >> those scale factors seemed the most straightforward to me and >> make the conversion to JT9 easy. >> >> >> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >> >> >> >> --_000_154205995708631226kuleuvenbe_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Mauro,


the link is still the same:http://472khz.o= rg/SlowJT9/SlowJT9_setup.exe


73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T



Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org <owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> namens Mauro Girole= tti <mauro.giroletti@alice.it>
Verzonden: maandag 12 november 2018 22:52
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: R: Re: LF: SlowJT9 v0.9.02
 
Hi ,
i'm sorry link for download SlowJT9 v0.9.02
Thanks
Mauro
I2-1510 -Ik2 GFT


----Messaggio originale----
Da: rik.strobbe@kuleuven.be
Data: 12-nov-2018 22.00
A: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org"<rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= >
Ogg: Re: LF: SlowJT9 v0.9.02


Hello Eric, all,

arecord -c 1 -r 12000 -f S16_LE capture.wav
sox capture.wav capture_tmp.wav speed 2.0
jt9 -9 -d 3 -S 300 capture_tmp.wav
cat decoded.txt

That is amost exactly what I am doing in SlowJT9, just in a more = fancy (user friendly) way ;-)
Does the speeding-up includes averaging ?

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

________________________________________
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org <owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org> namens Eric NO3M <no3m@no3m.net>
Verzonden: maandag 12 november 2018 21:42
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: Re: LF: SlowJT9 v0.9.02

Paul, et.al.

Correct, the original timings were fit into a "window" vs. simple=
scaling.  Since the slowJT exe wouldn't run in WINE, I just ran a few =
commands to decode K5DNL:

arecord -c 1 -r 12000 -f S16_LE capture.wav
sox capture.wav capture_tmp.wav speed 2.0
jt9 -9 -d 3 -S 300 capture_tmp.wav
cat decoded.txt

decoded.txt:
0000   1  -26   0.1   2400.   = 1   VVV DE K5DNL        &= nbsp;  JT9

jt9 is the standard executable decoder from WSJTX v1.9.1.

73 Eric NO3M

On 11/12/18 3:12 PM, N1BUG wrote:
> Eric brings up a good point. Forget what I said the other day about > beaconing with a U3S to be received by SlowJT9. I believe that won't <= br> > work because the U3S uses the original JT9-2, -5, -10, -30 symbol
> lengths which are different.
>
> Probably (a guess) in the original, symbol lengths were chosen to
> fill as much of the period as possible while leaving enough time at > the end for decoding. I would further guess there were specific
> decoders for each submode, or one decoder whose parameters could be > modified for the current submode.
>
> 73,
> Paul N1BUG
>
>
> On 11/12/18 2:47 PM, Rik Strobbe wrote:
>> Hello Eric,
>>
>>
>> yes, a scale factor of 2 and 5 is used.
>>
>> I hadn't any information about the old JT9-2 and JT9-5 modes and <= br> >> those scale factors seemed the most straightforward to me and
>> make the conversion to JT9 easy.
>>
>>
>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>
>>
>>
>>




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