Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id wA9KerTM005301 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 21:41:01 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1gLDW3-0007mv-EE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2018 20:36:31 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1gLDW1-0007mm-P9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2018 20:36:29 +0000 Received: from rhcavuit04.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([2a02:2c40:0:c0::25:137]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91_59-0488984) (envelope-from ) id 1gLDW0-0003Mt-6T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2018 20:36:28 +0000 X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@kuleuven.be X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-ID: A4A3D120009.A50F1 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven Received: from icts-p-smtps-1.cc.kuleuven.be (icts-p-smtps-1e.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.33]) by rhcavuit04.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A3D120009 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 21:36:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-EXMBX17.luna.kuleuven.be (icts-s-exmbx17.luna.kuleuven.be [10.112.11.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by icts-p-smtps-1.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9AE6640B4 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 21:36:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-EXMBX26.luna.kuleuven.be (10.112.11.61) by ICTS-S-EXMBX17.luna.kuleuven.be (10.112.11.48) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1395.4; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 21:36:22 +0100 Received: from ICTS-S-EXMBX27.luna.kuleuven.be (10.112.11.62) by ICTS-S-EXMBX26.luna.kuleuven.be (10.112.11.61) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1395.4; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 21:36:21 +0100 Received: from ICTS-S-EXMBX27.luna.kuleuven.be ([fe80::291a:cc4f:6953:698a]) by ICTS-S-EXMBX27.luna.kuleuven.be ([fe80::291a:cc4f:6953:698a%25]) with mapi id 15.00.1395.000; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 21:36:22 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Thread-Topic: LF: 1476 kHz AM Thread-Index: AQHUeGU9Q2A6wnMYfECpXX+GfyvqsaVH5q9T Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 20:36:22 +0000 Message-ID: <1541795782163.49667@kuleuven.be> References: <1378652797.1698077.1541792932503.ref@mail.yahoo.com>,<1378652797.1698077.1541792932503@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1378652797.1698077.1541792932503@mail.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: nl-BE, en-GB, en-US Content-Language: nl-BE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.112.50.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Audible here as well with the RX in CW mode. Nil in AM mode. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org namens Markus Vester Verzonden: vrijdag 9 november 2018 20:48 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: 1476 kHz AM [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [2a02:2c40:0:c0:0:0:25:137 listed in] [list.dnswl.org] -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: e43fe7093e9b3ae0dc118eec4efba8a5 Subject: Re: LF: 1476 kHz AM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_154179578216349667kuleuvenbe_" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false --_000_154179578216349667kuleuvenbe_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Audible here as well with the RX in CW mode. Nil in AM mode. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T ________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org namens Markus Vester Verzonden: vrijdag 9 november 2018 20:48 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: 1476 kHz AM Wow Tony, that's 1478 km with aural copy! And you have just beaten Dave's o= utstanding 1193 km ;-) Ralph and I had never thought that this could work = so well. Best 73, Markus -----Urspr=FCngliche Mitteilung----- Von: Tony Baldwin An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Fr, 9. Nov. 2018 20:34 Betreff: Re: LF: 1476 kHz AM Yes, very audible here too earlier in IO51do Quite deep QSB but a good 549 on Peaks. Tony, EI8JK On 08/11/2018 23:39, Markus Vester wrote: After the sad demise of all LW and MW broadcasts in Germany, a handful of p= ioneers came up who are operating legal low-powered medium wave stations in= the context of a radio museum or for educational purposes. One of them is = Ralph (DL2NDO, one of the participants in the legendary Donebach 137 kHz ac= tivation in 2002). He has obtained a transmitting license for 1476 kHz (for= mer frequency of Vienna Bisamberg), built a 3 Watt AM transmitter, and with= the help of a small team raised a quarterwave antenna on the Fraunhofer pr= emises south of Erlangen (JN59MN21HF). Yesterday they got on air for the first time, running a preliminary test tr= ansmission consisting of a switched 1000 Hz beeps (one second on, one secon= d off, audio frequency locked to the RF carrier). This pattern will be cont= inued for a few days, before they will eventually.take over the audio from = the local DAB student radio "funklust". The current test pattern is relatively easy to make out in the noise so it = may be a good chance for some DX detections. At night we've actually heard= the beeps on Twente SDR and a couple of German Kiwi-SDRs. But I guess usin= g narrowband signal processing techniques, the carrier and coherent tones c= oud make it much further. The carrier frequency is derived from an OCXO and= is currently at 1476000.411 Hz. Will anyone in the group take the challenge? Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) --_000_154179578216349667kuleuvenbe_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Audible here as well with the RX in CW mode. Nil in AM mode.


73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T



Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org <owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> namens Markus Veste= r <markusvester@aol.com>
Verzonden: vrijdag 9 november 2018 20:48
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: Re: LF: 1476 kHz AM
 
Wow Tony, that's 1478 km with aural copy! And you have just beate= n Dave's outstanding 1193 km ;-)  Ralph and I had never thought t= hat this could work so well.

Best 73,
Markus


-----Urspr=FCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: Tony Baldwin <ei8jk@topmail.ie>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Fr, 9. Nov. 2018 20:34
Betreff: Re: LF: 1476 kHz AM

Yes, very audible here too earlier in IO51do

Quite deep QSB but a good 549 on Peaks.
   

Tony, EI8JK


   

On 08/11/2018 23:39, Markus Ves= ter wrote:
After the sad demise of all LW and MW broadcasts in Germany, a handful of p= ioneers came up who are operating legal low-powered medium wave stations in= the context of a radio museum or for educational purposes. One o= f them is Ralph (DL2NDO, one of the participants in the legendary Donebach 137 kHz activation in 2002). He has obtaine= d a transmitting license for 1476 kHz (former frequency of Vienna Bisamberg= ), built a 3 Watt AM transmitter, and with the help of a small te= am raised a quarterwave antenna on the Fraunhofer premises south of Erlangen (JN59MN21HF).

Yesterday they got on air for the first time, running a preliminary test tr= ansmission consisting of a switched 1000 Hz beeps (one second on, one secon= d off, audio frequency locked to the RF carrier). This pattern will be = ;continued for a few days, before they will eventually.take over the audio from the local DAB student radio = "funklust".

The current test pattern is relatively easy to make out in the noise so it = may be a good chance for some DX detections.  At night we've actually = heard the beeps on Twente SDR and a couple of German Kiwi-SDRs. B= ut I guess using narrowband signal processing techniques, the carrier and coherent tones coud make it much further. The carrier freq= uency is derived from an OCXO and is currently at 1476000.411 Hz.

Will anyone in the group take the challenge?

Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)
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