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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: My advice: Listen to him ;-) 73, Markus -----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung----- Von: N1BUG An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Mi, 14. Nov. 2018 14:04 Betreff: Re: LF: Re: SlowJT9 v0.9.02: Decode simultaneous Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [74.6.128.82 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (markusvester[at]aol.com) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: c6a8ca7629fac3d35507e5a7fd3cbf17 Subject: Re: LF: Re: SlowJT9 v0.9.02: Decode simultaneous Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_403889_1436304340.1542207203710" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.2 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ------=_Part_403889_1436304340.1542207203710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My advice: Listen to him ;-) 73, Markus -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- Von: N1BUG An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Mi, 14. Nov. 2018 14:04 Betreff: Re: LF: Re: SlowJT9 v0.9.02: Decode simultaneous Hello Rik, all, Hmm. That seems significant. Selfishly, if using the original specification makes SlowJT9 decoding compatible with transmissions from devices such as the U3S I would prefer that. But you should not listen to me. Follow the advice of others. :-) 73, Paul N1BUG On 11/13/18 8:38 AM, Rik Strobbe wrote: > Hello Paul, all, >=20 > the original slow JT9 submodes make better advantage of the cycle > length than the ones currently used in SlowJT9. Eg.: where the > current JT9-5 version has a transmission duration of 245 s, the > original JT9-5 had a transmission duration of 292 s (both for a > 300 s =3D 5 min cycle). And longer transmission duration =3D longer > symbol length =3D better SNR. The theoretical advantage of the > original submodes over the currenty used ones is 0.46 dB for > JT9-2 and 0.74 dB for JT9-5. >=20 > 73, Rik=C2=A0 ON7YD - OR7T ------=_Part_403889_1436304340.1542207203710 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My advice: Listen to him ;-)

73, Markus

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Von: N1BUG <paul@n1bug.com&= gt;
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt= : Mi, 14. Nov. 2018 14:04
Betreff: Re: LF: Re: SlowJT9 v0.9.02: Decode s= imultaneous

Hello Rik, all,

Hmm. That seems significant.

Selfishly, if using the original specification makes SlowJT9
decoding compatible with transmissions from devices such as = the U3S
I would prefer that. But you should not listen to= me. Follow the
advice of others. :-)
<= br clear=3D"none">73,
Paul N1BUG


On 11/13/18 8:38 AM, Rik Strobbe wrote:
> Hello Pa= ul, all,
>
> the original slow J= T9 submodes make better advantage of the cycle
> lengt= h than the ones currently used in SlowJT9. Eg.: where the
> current JT9-5 version has a transmission duration of 245 s, the
> original JT9-5 had a transmission duration of 292 s (both= for a
> 300 s =3D 5 min cycle). And longer transmissi= on duration =3D longer
> symbol length =3D better SNR.= The theoretical advantage of the
> original submodes = over the currenty used ones is 0.46 dB for
> JT9-2 and= 0.74 dB for JT9-5.
>
> 73, Rik&= nbsp; ON7YD - OR7T

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