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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: hi LF I still have to correct the frequency 137.480 khz do I have to correct again so as not to disturb? HI ANTONIO IK1HGI Il giorno gio 4 ott 2018 alle ore 10:39 Riccardo Zoli < ha scritto: > > Hi Luis, Markus, LF > > Yes, Luis. Like Markus said, you're using a wrong position to change the > phase. > With Tony IK1HGI, we have tested a solution to produce a correct BPSK > modulation using a G0MRF PA schematic. Here's the link to Tony's website > page, that explained clearly what to do: > > https://www.qsl.net/ik1hgi/472khz/modulatore.htm > > > In short, the XOR operation must be carried out after the x2 stage (D-ff, > CD4013) simultaneously on Q and Q denied signals. > > All the best > > > > 73 de Riccardo IW4DXW > > > > > > Il 04 Ott 2018 07:37, "VIGILANT Luis Fernández" ha > scritto: > > Hi Markus, EbNaut > > It was me, with 80w from the D class PA > > I'm producing 180° phase shifts with xor at 2x the frequency to feed the > PA. So it seems that the PA do also reduce phase shifts to half :( > > Which would be the way to do it ? > > Congratulations for the EbNaut grabbers > > 73 de Luis > EA5DOM > > El 3 oct. 2018 11:29 p. m., Markus Vester escribió: > Between 19:58 and 20:28 there was a strong and stable signal on 137490.0 > Hz, coming in from west or southwest. However the keying seemed to be in > 90° steps instead of 180°, so not decodable. 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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000479151057764a13d" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false --000000000000479151057764a13d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi LF I still have to correct the frequency 137.480 khz do I have to correct again so as not to disturb? HI ANTONIO IK1HGI Il giorno gio 4 ott 2018 alle ore 10:39 Riccardo Zoli < riccardozoli80@gmail.com> ha scritto: > > Hi Luis, Markus, LF > > Yes, Luis. Like Markus said, you're using a wrong position to change the > phase. > With Tony IK1HGI, we have tested a solution to produce a correct BPSK > modulation using a G0MRF PA schematic. Here's the link to Tony's website > page, that explained clearly what to do: > > https://www.qsl.net/ik1hgi/472khz/modulatore.htm > > > In short, the XOR operation must be carried out after the x2 stage (D-ff, > CD4013) simultaneously on Q and Q denied signals. > > All the best > > > > 73 de Riccardo IW4DXW > > > > > > Il 04 Ott 2018 07:37, "VIGILANT Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez" h= a > scritto: > > Hi Markus, EbNaut > > It was me, with 80w from the D class PA > > I'm producing 180=C2=B0 phase shifts with xor at 2x the frequency to feed= the > PA. So it seems that the PA do also reduce phase shifts to half :( > > Which would be the way to do it ? > > Congratulations for the EbNaut grabbers > > 73 de Luis > EA5DOM > > El 3 oct. 2018 11:29 p. m., Markus Vester escribi= =C3=B3: > Between 19:58 and 20:28 there was a strong and stable signal on 137490.0 > Hz, coming in from west or southwest. However the keying seemed to be in > 90=C2=B0 steps instead of 180=C2=B0, so not decodable. Maybe a problem wi= th a /2 > divider in the transmit chain? > > Best 73, > Markus (DF6NM) > > > --=20 Salve Antonio ik1hgi http://www.qsl.net/ik1hgi/472khz/gps-x.htm http://www.qsl.net/ik1hgi/472-50.htm http://www.qsl.net/ik1hgi/qrp/index.htm http://www.qsl.net/ik1hgi/eqsl.html ik1hgi.qrss@gmail.com ik1hgi.atv@gmail.com Antonio ik1hgi 73 RISERVATEZZA (ai sensi D.Lgs n. 196/03) --000000000000479151057764a13d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi LF I still have to correct the fr= equency 137.480 khz do I have to correct again so as not to disturb?
<= div>HI ANTONIO IK1HGI

Il giorno gio 4 ott 2018 alle ore 10:39 Riccardo Zoli <riccardozoli80@gmail.com> ha = scritto:

Hi Luis, Markus, LF

=
Yes, Luis.=C2=A0Like Markus said, you're using a wrong position to cha= nge the phase.
With Tony IK1HGI, we have tested a solution= to produce a correct BPSK modulation using a G0MRF PA schematic. Here'= s the link to Tony's website page, that explained clearly what to do:



In short, the XOR operati= on must be carried out after the x2 stage (D-ff, CD4013) simultaneously on = Q and Q denied signals.

All the best


73 de Riccardo IW4DXW
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<= br>
Il 04 Ott 2018 07:37, "VIGILANT Luis Fer= n=C3=A1ndez" <luis@vigilant.es> ha scritto:
Hi Markus, EbNaut

It was me, with 80w from the D class PA

I'm producing 180=C2=B0 phase shifts with xor at 2x t= he frequency to feed the PA. So it seems that the PA do also reduce phase s= hifts to half :(

Which would be the way to do it ?

Congratulations for the EbNaut grabbers

73 de Luis
EA5DOM

El 3 oct. 2018 11:29 p. m., Markus Vester <= markusvester@aol.com> escribi=C3=B3:
Between 19:58 and 20:28 there was a strong and stable signal on 137490.0 Hz= , coming in from west or southwest. However the keying seemed to be in 90= =C2=B0 steps instead of 180=C2=B0, so not decodable. Maybe=C2=A0a problem w= ith a=C2=A0/2 divider in the transmit chain?

Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)



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