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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Hello The Net: For my vertical antenna guyed in three direction at 4 levels, I am planning to use 3/16", polyester, braided, of double braid construction. Original guys were of the military surplus type, part of a GRA-4 antenna system and part number MX-383A/GRA-4, that uses, 1 each, insulator in line. [...] Content analysis details: (0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [74.6.135.42 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.7 SPF_NEUTRAL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (neutral) 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 6ffbd2c9950b634d6cc91f9565b01a8b Subject: LF: Porcelain insulators on rope guys for a vertical antenna Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello The Net: For my vertical antenna guyed in three direction at 4 levels, I am planning to use 3/16", polyester, braided, of double braid construction. Original guys were of the military surplus type, part of a GRA-4 antenna system and part number MX-383A/GRA-4, that uses, 1 each, insulator in line. For replacement guys, can I remove the insulator and only use the braided line ? With wet guys (after rainstorm) I measure the (~ DC) resistance from the vertical to ground as greater than 6 megohms, my meters capability. What are your thoughts ? I can add the insulators, but I would also need to add crimped connectors or other rope clamps, that would reduce the ultimate reliability of the guy. The vertical is constructed of MS-44 aluminum masting sections stacked up to 50', (maybe 55 or 60'+ later). Final plan is to add a capacitive top hat with 8 each, 20' radials and a center loading coil for use on 2200M and 630M. Probably a additional switchable base loading coil for 2200M tuning (TBD). Stan, W1LE    Cape Cod   FN41sr ZZZZz