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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Hello Markus! TNX for long SWLing for us! Look, Vadim aka KARAPUZ - UA6SWL(this is nick name at pskreporter, not real call, he is unlis and SWL) make a some direction-finding laboratory work by KIWI-SDR reseivers. He use 5 receivers and find QTH around Nagoya, Japan. [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [5.255.227.22 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (rw3adb[at]yandex.ru) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 79aab7440207271f32757adc503f8c76 Subject: Re: LF: Korea 24.1 kHz and 25.0 kHz Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello Markus! TNX for long SWLing for us! Look, Vadim aka KARAPUZ - UA6SWL(this is nick name at pskreporter, not real call, he is unlis and SWL) make a some direction-finding laboratory work by KIWI-SDR reseivers. He use 5 receivers and find QTH around Nagoya, Japan. Russian forum from here: http://www.radioscanner.ru/forum/topic24687-14.html#msg1389739 Vadim's answer to us: http://www.radioscanner.ru/forum/topic24687-14.html#msg1390104 Coordinates 34.00N 137.00E - ~100 km's far from Nagoya. 73! Roman > I looked through some stored colour-DF grabber captures. It seems that the South Korean transmittter has been alternating between 24.1 and 25.0 kHz on a monthly basis. As far as I can see, the scheme was > > Month in: ------2017------|-------2018------- > 25.0 kHz: 7 8 9 | 1 2 3 7 9 > 24.1 kHz: 6 10 11 12| 4 5 6 8 > > Best 73, > Markus (DF6NM) > > -----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung----- > Von: P. W. Schnoor > An: rsgb_lf_group > Verschickt: Mi, 8. Aug 2018 22:50 > Betreff: Re: LF: 24.0 kHz sig - NAA? > > O.K. > > Go to: > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/VLF_Group/conversations/messages/25189 > > Read those ITU infos. > > Push: "Show message history" > > Read what Markus wrote there. > > May be he describes exactly what R6LDD's image shows. > > Peter, df3lp > > On 08.08.2018 19:01, hvanesce@comcast.net wrote: >> In the mid 60's I wished that my receiver (BC-453/4/5) would reach 24 kHz. >> >> Still works and still wish; that much stayed the same :-) >> >> Jim AA5BW >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of John Rabson >> Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 12:32 PM >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Subject: Re: LF: 24.0 kHz sig - NAA? >> >> How times change. In the late 1960s I received NAA on a hot summer afternoon >> in the town of Harlow, about 30 km north-east of London. The antenna was an >> L about 80 m in length and the receiver was an ex-Navy unit which covered >> from 15 to 750kHz (B29?). >> >> 73 John G3PAI F5VLF >> >>> On 8 Aug 2018, at 17:49, DK7FC wrote: >>> >>> Hello Genosse Roman, >>> >>> NAA should be centered exactly at 24 kHz, like DHO38 is at 23.4 kHz. It >> can have strong QSB and appears only a few hours per day. Here it appears >> arround 4 UTC these days. >>> My grabber and all webpages do not work in the moment due to a webserver >> problem which may be solved just next week... >>> These narrow traces are something else, NAA always looks like DHO, about >> 200 Hz wide. >>> >>> 73, Stefan >>> >>> Am 08.08.2018 14:15, schrieb Roman: >>>> Hello Genossen VLFers! >>>> >>>> Pse, look R6LDD screen at russian forum. >>>> What's a station? NAA or not? >>>> >>>> http://136.su/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=393.0;attach=18220;image >>>> >>>> The theme: >>>> >>>> http://136.su/index.php/topic,393.msg21804.html#msg21804 >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- 73! Roman, RW3ADB