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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Hi all, Today i played a bit with my linear VLF/ULF PA, some output transformers, a 50 Ohm dummy load and a 3 mH air cored coil (a smal one, from LF). I thought this could represent the ground loop antenna during tests in the shack. [...] Content analysis details: (-2.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [185.67.36.66 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: c9d6a1e47761f7ec7375ac340bef30d0 Subject: VLF:Ground loop antennas, how to tune best? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, Today i played a bit with my linear VLF/ULF PA, some output transformers, a 50 Ohm dummy load and a 3 mH air cored coil (a smal one, from LF). I thought this could represent the ground loop antenna during tests in the shack. With the switchable C-network, i managed to tune to resonance between 8.27 kHz down to 0.97 kHz. A usual R-L-C network. The goal was to proove that the system can tune to and run 1 A antenna current on each of the desired frequencies. However, i did not manage to reach more than 500 mA 'antenna' current. Above, there appeared significant distortions / harmonics. Why? When i connect the dummy load directly to the output transformer (just R instead of RLC), i can easily tune to 1 A 'antenna' current and the sine wave almost looks perfectly. So it cannot be an issue of a saturating transformer. Also the coil cannot saturate. So, where are the distortions coming from? The main component of the overlayed distortion voltage is maybe 10x higher in frequency. BTW in the first test with the 900m ground loop the voltage showed some distortions as well and i wondered how it comes from. Then i thought it has to do with saturation and a far-from-ideal matching of the PA output impedance... Back to the test in the shack: Eventually there are further resonance frequencies, coming from the stray inductance of the transformer and the 'internal' capacity of the coil. Now if this can happen with discrete elements in the shack, it can happen on the ground loop anyway! This antenna will certainly have an interesting frequency response, TX-wise. So my thought is: Maybe it is even better not to series resonate the loop but to parallel resonate it! This will lead to a higher feed point impedance, which will be frequency dependent, so it is a more complex thing. But the parallel C should help to avoid transmitting on harmonics. Or, i could series resonate the antenna on the frequency of interest and then add a parallel resonated LC circuit. This is easier to do because the parallel LC can be tuned before connecting the antenna. Then the antenna can be connected... Or, even something like a T-filter (2 series L and one parallel C) but that will be complex to align when sitting in the car which is full of electronis stuff anyway... Also it is a challenge on ULF :-) And certainly it helps to minimise the stray reactances, e.g. by using just as less primary turns on the output transformer as possible. But then it is not usable on all frequencies and will need taps on the primary and secondary side. Any ideas / comments? :-) 73, Stefan