Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id w792vcKK014864 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 04:57:41 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1fnawC-0003oP-D9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2018 03:44:32 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1fnavq-0003oG-CV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2018 03:44:10 +0100 Received: from omr-m016e.mx.aol.com ([204.29.186.16]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.91_59-0488984) (envelope-from ) id 1fnavn-0000eN-OT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2018 03:44:08 +0100 Received: from mtaomg-mbc01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mbc01.mx.aol.com [172.26.221.143]) by omr-m016e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id C8D4B3800095 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2018 22:44:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mdx01g.mail.aol.com (core-mdx01.mail.aol.com [10.73.15.42]) by mtaomg-mbc01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 8DEE338000083 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2018 22:44:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 98.111.205.174 by webjas-vab013.srv.aolmail.net (10.96.18.16) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 08 Aug 2018 22:44:04 -0400 Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 22:44:04 -0400 From: wa3tts@verizon.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-Id: <1651c91d66a-c8d-87ee@webjas-vab013.srv.aolmail.net> In-Reply-To: <5B6B10ED.4080306@posteo.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: JAS STD X-Originating-IP: [98.111.205.174] x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1add8f5b6baa740cc2 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Stefan, Genosse, Roman:  For what it is worth, I can detect weak carrier lines above NAA near 24.2 kHz. View from my analog DBM LF converter with e-probe in tree at 30ft, 50 ohm Bridge-T Q=1  diplexer driving  Mini Circuits ZFY-1-S Level 23 Mixer.  Isotemp OCXO LO at 3.0 MHz [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [204.29.186.16 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: bde53fa3678f346afe39dd99e3e185db Subject: re:Re: LF: 24.0 kHz sig - NAA? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_47318_1288040333.1533782644330" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ------=_Part_47318_1288040333.1533782644330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefan, Genosse, Roman:=C2=A0 For what it is worth, I can detect weak carri= er lines above NAA near 24.2 kHz. View from my analog DBM LF converter with e-probe in tree at 30ft, 50 ohm B= ridge-T Q=3D1=C2=A0 diplexer driving=C2=A0 Mini Circuits ZFY-1-S Level 23 M= ixer.=C2=A0 Isotemp OCXO LO at 3.0 MHz https://www.dropbox.com/s/pklkpgsxushnznd/NAAETALL.JPG?dl=3D0 NAA is strong enough to hear it weakly with the antenna and diplexer discon= nected, 30cm long 50 ohm cable for to the mixer picks up some 24 kHz energy= that is weak but audible here... 73 Mike wa3tts -----Original Message----- From: DK7FC To: rsgb_lf_group Sent: Wed, Aug 8, 2018 11:50 am Subject: Re: LF: 24.0 kHz sig - NAA? Hello Genosse Roman, NAA should be centered exactly at 24 kHz, like DHO38 is at 23.4 kHz. It=20 can have strong QSB and appears only a few hours per day. Here it=20 appears arround 4 UTC these days. My grabber and all webpages do not work in the moment due to a webserver=20 problem which may be solved just next week... These narrow traces are something else, NAA always looks like DHO, about=20 200 Hz wide. 73, Stefan Am 08.08.2018 14:15, schrieb Roman: > Hello Genossen VLFers! > > Pse, look R6LDD screen at russian forum. > What's a station? NAA or not? > > http://136.su/index.php?action=3Ddlattach;topic=3D393.0;attach=3D18220;im= age > > The theme: > > http://136.su/index.php/topic,393.msg21804.html#msg21804 > >=20 ------=_Part_47318_1288040333.1533782644330 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Stefan, Genosse, Roman:  For what it is worth, I can det= ect weak carrier lines above NAA near 24.2 kHz.

View from my analog DBM LF converter with e-probe in tree at 30ft, 50 ohm= Bridge-T Q=3D1  diplexer driving  Mini Circuits ZFY-1-S Level 23= Mixer.  Isotemp OCXO LO at 3.0 MHz

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pklkpgsxushnznd/NAAETALL.JPG?dl=3D0

NAA is strong enough to hear it wea= kly with the antenna and diplexer disconnected, 30cm long 50 ohm cable for = to the mixer picks up some 24 kHz energy that is weak but audible here...

73 Mike wa3tts


-----Original Message-----
From: DK7FC <selberdenken@posteo.de><= br>To: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org>
Sent: Wed, Aug 8= , 2018 11:50 am
Subject: Re: LF:= 24.0 kHz sig - NAA?

Hello Genosse Roman,

NAA sh= ould be centered exactly at 24 kHz, like DHO38 is at 23.4 kHz. It
can h= ave strong QSB and appears only a few hours per day. Here it
appears ar= round 4 UTC these days.
My grabber and all webpages do not work in the m= oment due to a webserver
problem which may be solved just next week...<= br>These narrow traces are something else, NAA always looks like DHO, about=
200 Hz wide.

73, Stefan

Am 08.08.2018 14:15, schrieb Rom= an:
> Hello Genossen VLFers!
>
> Pse, look R6LDD screen a= t russian forum.
> What's a station? NAA or not?
>
> http://136.su/index.php?action=3Ddlattach;topic= =3D393.0;attach=3D18220;image
>
> The theme:
>
>= ; http://136.su/index.php/topic,393.msg21804.html#msg21804<= br>>
>

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